WHAT DO WE THINK OF THESE COACHES NOW?
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- In the 2024 Rugby Championship we have three new coaches in charge of their respective national teams. Then there is Rassie Erasmus the back to back World Champion Head Coach in charge of the South African Springboks.
In this episode of Inside Rugby with Mark I give my assessment of the coaches in the Rugby Championship thus far and I ask you for your opinion as well.
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Felipe is no doubt the man of the hour. He's brought argentina into the conversation time and time again this championship, its already a major victory for them regardless of what happens on Saturday. Delighted because we need new teams knocking on the door of the top 5 and between the players, the fans and their style of play, argentina is a terrific rugby nation and deserve the success.
They'll have to be somewhat competitive in SA to warrant talk of pushing into the top 5, I can see a hiding coming.
@Natedawg38
yes, I am on that page.
@Camcolito plenty of other top teams for them to play beside the Boks.
@@insiderugbywithmark True enough. I am a fan of this Argentina side, just think their recent form is overblown. What have they really done? The biggest win is a flaky NZ team who haven't looked convincing at all. Apart from that, they are 1-1 at home with a very mediocre Australia, and a narrow win against effectively a second-tier SA at home. I think we'll tell a lot more about them after the next game re being one of the "top teams".
@Camcolito Lets agree to disagree on all you have shared, and perhaps have a Gentlemen´s bet, I think Argentina will be top 5 in the world by the end of 2024.
Mate Razor has won a club title, an NPC title, NZ U20 title and d of course the super title (multiple) - he of course always needed time rebuilding in 24.
…against the wallabies we crossed the line 3 times - minor precision errors wiped them all out. Could have been 50.
He’s not far off and I think his strategy of trying to blood a few new guys with maturity around him is just slightly out - agree.
Yep he now needs bolder selections at 9, 10, 13, sititi to 8, Savea to 7 etc and I think this week we may see it.
But this whole “never really cared about him at super rugby” is kind of strange - He will learn and be better. He always has so far. I am one who thinks he will start to feel settled.
@nzfreeski Hola mate, thanks so much for the comment. Allow me if you will to clarify a couple of things for your benefit.
If you have watched a number of my videos where I have talked about Razor I have constantly said this.
1. He needs to play players in the right positions and he should select younger players and trial them to see what they have got to offer. ( to which you have agreed above).
2. I have also said in those videos, take 2024 and be prepared to lose games, even though the NZ public cant handle that, to make sure you have your best 23 players on board and in form.
3. “never really cared about him at super rugby” is kind of strange , This was your comment. What I said was, I was not living in NZ during Razors entire reign at the Crusaders and nor was I taking any interest in Super Rugby at that stage of my life journey. Not strange at all, thats my truth.
@@nzfreeski such a sensible comment here. Shared by a large percentage of the All Black fan base. I’d like to see some bolder selections too.
Totally agree with this comment @nzfreeski
Rassie is doing well and continuing to evolve his team. Joe has a huge job ahead but I think we can all agree that we can see some of his magic-dust in the teams performances. Felipe is turning the Pumas into one of the best attacking teams in the world. Razor is the only that looks out if his depth out of the four...some of his selections are letting him down, but we have entrusted him to bring us RWC glory in 2027. None of the coaches are perfect but 3/4 is building something that we can identify, the other needs to get his head out of the Super Rugby. The next few years building up to RWC 2027 will be interesting.
Razor has the programme towards the 2027 world cup .His major problem is the Captain Barrett is faulty on decision making and and is not leading well at all.Same Cane should not be playing IE his missed tackle gifted Aussie a try
@@PeterMalloy-i5y yip and Ardie has shown that he is not answer for skipper too...maybe Codie Taylor?🤷♂️ Razor is making a lot of errors that are adding to the pressure he already has.
Well said,Mark I enjoyed the chat as usual.
Much appreciated
@jimmylemley3121
Well said Mark- an excellent summary of the coaches.
Thank you kindly
Enlightening, objective and constructive. Txs
@JanVanwyk-i4c thank you
Mark i love your channel and views!! Please will possibly perhaps consider putting in timestamps in future??? You cover so many topics in vids and sometimes i come back 2 rewatch vids and timestamps would help me 2 find specific info. Please.
@pmarkc3743 thanks so much for the constructive feedback. I am always trying to improve, so super appreciate this.
Great video Mark. I pretty much share your views. Cheers from Argentina!
@sebastiansaravia3060 glad you enjoyed it, thank you
Excellent analysis Tim. I fully concur.
Tim?
My take on 1/2 a cup is that the cup stays 1/2. Rather come prepared to fill that cup. The Tony ball is delivering 25% more tries, but we give away 50% more tries as defense suffers along the way. Thus they empty their cup along the way and along that same way, Rassie introduces new players which is good, but done the wrong way as new players and a new system which is not working well, fails to deliver clear answers. Contepomi recognised it and used the more open style we play to eat us. Think what the French will do, propably destroy us. Rassie need to tone this new style down a bit with more direct rugby. Wear them down and then hit them. It is a better environment for new players to find their feet in.
@tobysmeiman6921 OK cups aside, thanks for the comment. Its Tony Brown......
Four damn fine coaches, rugby is lucky to have them!!
@kotabenade4206 respect
I agree, Argentina and Felipe are the surprise of the competition. Never have we beaten all three in a year, so that is fantastic. I do bad for Razor, because I think his selection is based on fear and the need for results, more than long term preparation for the RWC. . Whereas Rassie, can afford to shake up the roaster and lose, like he did on Saturday. He has more cushion and ability to play. I think this will only serve SA, because you're right Mark, he will bring the top 50 to RWC. Looking forward to Saturday! Cheers and thanks for the great videos.
@christiandemarino8895 On Argentina, yes yes yes
Razor, agree, the win record is more important seemingly.
Thanks for the kind words
There's been and still have a lot of kiwi coaches in front or behind the scenes of international coaching teams.
I agree coach Rassie is brave to do what he thinks best smart enough not to repeat mistakes, and he takes no $h!t from anyone.
(Ab fan)
Okkie dokkie, thanks for sharing
I thought scott Roberston was the man for the job , but now i am getting by doubts in him , Having said that ,razor deserves a fair crack at the whip . If there has been on improvment then maybe the NZRU should start looking at different options . It is my honest opinion Mark.
@allblacks9100 thank you for sharing your honest opinion. I ask, if not Razor then who would you have in there?
@@insiderugbywithmark Dave Rennie or Jamie Joseph
OK then, interesting.
should be a interesting Selection at Wellington -agree with your comments. I'm expecting changes at 10 and centre . Robertson is under pressure from ex All Blacks and current All Blacks for his selection's at 10 , Sorry to say
@bvbvcpp well we can live in hope, but dont expect to see much unforced change
Probably the most exciting finale to the Rugby Championship in its history. Argentina with a chance to win a maiden title. The Wallabies going to Wellington with confidence.
If Argentina win in South Africa and take the title, it will be at the very least, the equal of Ireland winning a test series in NZ, in terms of ructions in world rugby. Especially considering how good the Springboks are, which is very very good.
@JodyForbes spot on. Very exciting indeed, great for rugby fans across the world. The more teams in with a chance of winning the better the atmosphere. Thanks for the comment
Rassie a great man manager and innovater.Felipe the perfect coach for his country to challenge at the top level,seems very cool with alot of rugby smarts.Joe a veteran coach great for building the foundations of a team will have them humming in a few years.Razor almost afraid to play his way ,seems swayed by others ,a great coach if he backs himself in saying that if this is what he wants style and player wise we will suffer alot more loses
what? Razor cleans out all the old coaches and now suffers from fright? or he's afraid? maybe ... just maybe, its a level he's not use too? Either way, he better get up to speed, we don't like our AB's losing!!! Not happy about Razor bringing in that Crusaders man to back up the no. 12? He's never played there!!! We'll see
Great podcast. 👍
Thanks for listening
I am not too upset by this loss, the Pumas had better be on their best game at Mbombela. If not a hiding to nothing!
@neilharvey3099 watching with interest.
Thanks Mark. Spot on. Rassie should know now that in a world cup quarter, semi or final an erratic kicker is a non starter. We need better backup at 10. Sacha has already had two knee operations so we're vulnerable there. Jordan Hendrikse kicked a 59m penalty at Ellis in the rain to win the Currie Cup. Time to swap out. He could have moved Pollard to 12 and we would already have the R Championship. But he learns from his mistakes.
@karlernstbuddenbrock371 interesting comment, thank you for teaching me some things. The depth SA enjoys should always be embraced. Imagine if the Pumas, AB´s or Aussie kickers get hurt, then what?
@@insiderugbywithmark good question. There is limited depth there, but D Mack can be replaced by a couple of competent kickers in the side. Not sure about Aus.
@karlernstbuddenbrock371 too whom are the competent kickers you refer? Jordie Barrett who missed the RWC goal kick, Beauden Barrett is very unreliable from the t.
Good pod. Interesting views.
Thank you
I expext a massive victory in Mbombela. Go Bokke!
@@Rundu1987 is better win by one, more joy 🤣
Pumas too good for massive victory.Would be nice though.
Glad to see this critique Mark
Thank you
ABs could lose all the games in the north. Thanks Mark
@sox7784 they could, and they could win them all.
I feel that the Boks will win comfortably this weekend. Our top players will make a big difference. Last but not least…… You do now beat the Boks in the Lowveld…. I was born in Nelspruit and that is Lion country!
@hermannwaschefort3891 Hello to everyone in the Lion Country. Thank you for the comment. Looking forward to a very intriguing game.
Razor comes in to one of the toughest draws for years. Without a world class first five and locking pair.
@skimaticsnz thanks for sharing your view.
agreed ,on coaches , but Rassie is doing well ,on target remember conditions and rested players ,that is hungry for a win !!!!!!!
He sure is, I am not disagreeing, thanks for the comment
Hi Mark. The summary is fair. The coach's might be the best or not on top their trade but it boils down to the playing 23 and the game situation itself. Joe Smith is a great coach but the results doesn't necessarily highlight that fact. Nor will Rassie becomes a bad coach if S.A. suddenly start loosing games. So for me some things just need to extra time and so do players and coaches.
Hola
@jameshartzenberg5763 thats a very fair point. We are seeing the evolution of the game all of the time, if a coach and a team stand still they will lose. As the levels converge we fans are in for plenty more great rugby.
Tries scored against SA out wide is a bit worrying.
@Rundu1987 they were down a man
spot on Mark, Razor looks like a deer in the headlights at the moment which is very worrying. we haven't seen the ALL BLACKS fall away so badly in games like they have been under Razor.
I think something isn't clicking in the coaching room. not sure what that is but it really isn't working. the northern tour could be a disaster if this continues.Dmac at 10 just isn't working we need to include overseas based players like the other teams do. or we will fall further behind.
@rosswilliams21 thank you for the comment. There appears two clear lines of thoughts in the comments. Razor needs more time is one of them and it will all come right, and then the opposing view, something is not right.
Hello Mark, lovely review as always. Since you share my view on all of the points made, just the question on Rassie if we should lose a few.
It won't change anything for us, we've had Alistair Coetzee and nothing can be worse than that time when we had him.
@TheBuildKingR I thought as much, but for South Africa now to be enjoying the view from the top of the mountain for some time I am always keen to see how this journey evolves with players, coaches and of course fans.
Good analysis overall. I think the Boks will have an important advantage over the Pumas with the core of the team being rested the past week. The Pumas will not have this advantage and on top of that they will have to travel as well.
@jacobusjonck2172 so your predicting an easy Bok win then?
@@insiderugbywithmark yes, for sure
Howsit Mark, sorry been mia due to really bad weather here in kzn and anneversary celebrations 🎉 here's my thoughts, Rassie still leads the way by far, Schmidt and contepomi are watching and learning fast, unfortunately razor is lagging far behind in experience but absolutely will get it right
@robcrocker348 Hola, congratulations on the anniversary. Hope all is well with the weather. We have a hurricane coming here tonight, so I relate to your comment.
Thanks for sharing the views on the coaches through your eyes, very much appreciated
Thank you Mark and please stay safe with the hurricanes that side
Its rock and rolling right now.
AB's desperately need a backs coach/selector, know where we can get one?
@danieldelaney2477
Tony Brown :-)
👏👏👏
Thank you
Hey Mark, It's fair to say that Bok fans are divided currently. There's no denying the need to regenerate the team, due to it's age profile, but doing that whilst simultaneously evolving the playing style, is making the Boks look mediocre, scraping home, or just losing games they should be dominating.
Many fans are frustrated that the Boks aren't putting high scores on what are comparatively weak RC teams, like the AB's did to the Boks, when the Boks were struggling.
It's not as if the Boks weren't playing attractive rugby last year. I think of tge game against the AB's at Twickenham and the WC games against Scotland and France. No one ever won a WC final by playing end to end rugby, scoring five or six tries.
Only NZ has even won a Rugby World Cup final scoring more than 2 tries. 1987 when South Africa wasn't there. Then 2015 where it took them until the 79th minute to get a 3rd try.
I can only rate true World Cups as being from 1995 onwards to include the Springboks. So in 8 World Cup finals over 28 years, 1 final where a team scores 3 tries and it took 79 minutes to do that. I would also suggest an anomaly in the 2015 final in that NZ/Australia games seem to be a bit looser as a rule of thumb.
It's also worth noting that only 1 country has won a world cup after losing a pool game. That's South Africa which has done it 2x. There's a dogmatism that needs to be considered in regards to certain rugby cultures.
@adrianincapetown7043 an interesting read and as an All Black fan all of my life I can relate to this as this mindset is what we have always endured.
An expectation that we will go out and spank teams and when we dont everyone is yelling from the rafters. The dangers I see in this conundrum from our side in this is,
Arrogancy comes into the equation as other teams are always trying to improve and they are. Once they catch up, and in the case of the All Blacks pass you it impacts the entire rugby eco system, coaches, players, and fans.
As a Kiwi I have always loved and admired and respected what the Pacific Island teams and players bring to world rugby as they are some of the biggest men on the planet yet so gentle and humble as people. Not directly to your point, but there are some cross overs perhaps
@insiderugbywithmark Thanks for the considered reply, Mark. Bok fans have endured too many heavy drubbings in the recent past, at the hands of the AB's, to be arrogant. I guess that many just feel that the current evolution of the team and playing style, is "robbing" fans of the opportunity of being on the right side of one or two of those drubbings for a change, while our greatest opponents are relatively weak..
@adrianincapetown7043 I hear you, I respect it, and I say embrace it because you all deserve it. Thank you for the exchange
Razor and inexperienced test coaches are learning on the job, pity he didn’t offer Joe Schmidt more than just a selector/ advisor role or maybe he’d be on board now - coaching backs attack and breakdown like he did for Foster plus those other roles too! Razor only coaches/ selects the loosies.
Now it looks like the professor is in to do some de facto coaching! cos who is Tamati Ellison as a coach?
Maybe they could also use some of Schmidts bite right now, cos the fade away in Sydney was really poor and am sick of hearing, we talked about it.
Buck stops at Razor but most of the coaching is down to his assistants, he and Ryan’s forwards are well selected and going fine but the backs aren’t getting clear strategy direction from their coaches imo. and yes, defense isn’t consistently cohesive - Felix Jones was available?
I get that Razor wants to be, and be seen to be the head honcho and also be loyal to who he’s worked with and knows - but Leon McDonald was a mistake imo and i don’t think Holland/ Hansen/ Ellison are better back attack coaches than Schmidt would’ve been - esp. with their dearth of international experience, cos SR style isn’t doing our players any favours in skill set dealing with in yer face pressure of NH style rush defense but SR style is all these coaches know.
So maybe NZR needs to be more prescriptive of who the AB coach must have as assistant like they did to Foster in the end? Guess they’ll be reviewed EOY.
Schmidt might have gone to head coach WB’s anyway but like Browny, isn’t here, when either of those two might have been induced with a better Razor offer? and maybe he should’ve tried harder to get them, cos at this level, loyalty to the black jersey trumps loyalty to whoever you feel more comfortable working with and it’s important to grow and evolve, like Rassie is trying to do in getting Browny on board.
@TheRickpage a combination of reasons why what is happening is happening. Many are saying, the backs are creative and innovative and able to put on a ton of points, aka Sydney and Eden Park. Its the back end of games where discipline ( yellow cards and penalties), execution skills, and leadership appear to be hurting. Leadership for me comes down to on the field, the players. Nothing the coaches can do here, except make sure you have the right leaders. Discipline is on the players, not the coaches. So experienced guys should not be getting yellow cards and giving away messy penalties. The ABs are leading the stats for points scored in the first three quarters of ALL rugby championship teams so far this year. The issue is the last 20-30 mins, clearly.
Schmidt should have been AB coach. He was a huge factor in last year’s turn around. Ironic how Razor is getting his arse handed to him after all his antics. He will struggle to be still in charge at RWC. Northern Tour, 3 losses coming our way
I'm an Ireland fan but I think New Zealand really underestimated Joe Schmidt. He is an incredible proven international coach whereas Razor has only really coached at club level which is a good bit below test level. Schmidt not only built Ireland into a top class team but he was a key element in the ABs beating Ireland and narrowly missing out on the Cup final. He is starting to turn Australia around now.
@neilmontgomery3470
I can assure you that there is not one kiwi on the planet who underestimates Joe Schmidt. I for one wanted him in the top job before Razor. He will do great things with Australia, of that I am sure.
Have to agree Robertson has been quite disappointing the ABs are top heavy with coaching, would like to know is he hands on or leaving the training to his minions, the rest of the coaches your spot on....
@hartley9958 Thanks so much for sharing your opinion, really appreciate it.
Boks have conceded 9 tries already this season in Super Rugby Championship which is unusual for them.Twice conceded 4 tries a match against AB’s and Pumas.Can’t put my finger on it but it is disconcerting.Some pundits blame Tony ball for it but I don’t think so.Maybe we miss Jacques Nienaber.Tony brown did not replace Jacques.He came in place of Felix Jones who was the attack coach.Gerry Flannery a hooker and former Munster assistant coach under Rassie replaced Jacques.
@johannblignaut1966 All teams defenses are leaking points at different times this year, maybe part evolution, selection changes, etc Thanks for the comment, appreciate it.
Mark what do you think of this card story, it was first introduced to stop fowl and dirty play, but now a yellow card for all sorts of minor offences, especially when the ball is in the air and 2 players are running looking up to catch if one jumps up catches the ball and crashes into the other player , the other one is given the card , how ridiculous if the one on the ground had caught the ball then the one jumping would get the card , this is just one example of many ridiculous situations where a yellow card is given, deliberate dirty play no problem give the card , but come on its spoiling the game, in my day I would not have lasted 5 Min.
@jimmylemley3121 hey Jimmy, thanks for the question. Look I think you hit the nail on the head with your last sentence. The game has moved on from the times we remember. Its trying to keep pace with player welfare, and trying to stop potentially dangerous play. Different refs and different TMOs boxes see different things, so its very hard to get it right in the eyes of us fans.
One thing I will say, those who played for the All Blacks in the 1960´and 70´s didint retire with brain damage or other severe issues.
Rassie needs to put pressure on Flannery our defense coach we are bleeding too many tries at the moment a shambling defense won't win us cup's
@phillipmiga3961 defense across all teams is an issue, so yes, your comment is on point.
Well done Mark great rugby commentry. Agree some selections wrong. Need new younger players plus need our best overseas players like Mounga and A.Smith.
Agree your views on TJ Paranera and DMAC.
We need to forget about Mounga and Smith. They may never play for the All Blacks again with or without the current Selection Law. What we need to do is develop the players we have here and Razor needs to stop talking to Mounga about coming back and do what he's paid to do. Coach the current All Blacks. Maybe instead of worrying about Mounga, he should worry about the players he's not selecting and is pushing overseas.
@markreilly105 I think this is the response I would had put, yes.
@sukimyragdollcatdee2769 see Marks response below, I tend to trend that way with my thinking as well. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, appreciate it.
The most dangerous animal is wounded Springbok! Don Clark All Black
@@michaelmansvelt9843 i think ure missing a fee zooloogy classes mate
A Puma hunts the Springbok.
@michaelmansvelt9843 Mexican Tarantulas they say here.
@@insiderugbywithmark Surely you know who Don Clark is?
Give Argentina time they may get a championship win next year they are a good side just need some consistency!
I expect Australia to get the wooden spoon this year but same for them they wil find their rhythm in the following years.
New Zealand needs to sort out their second half fall outs and being accurate there coach wil step up i believe
South Africa just lacks focus and accuracy and i believe now that the experiments is over we wil se some proper consistency
@7seven243 I will be watching with your predictions in mind, thanks for sharing
Hi Mark, it's Contepomi, without the "e" 👍
Interesting thanks, was told by another of your countrymen that is spoken as mei......
thz good observation smidt proven track record puma good coach razor one dimentiional rassie his golden ticket world cup he will be allowed allowed to develope will get critic by given weak links multiple chances when better players available
i could be wrong razor satisfied with the players and performances nz pundits say they were robed by ref a deeper issue
Thank you for the comment
All blacks remind me of a fighter that comes out swinging but gets gassed quickly, then stops throwing punches and holds on for the bell 😂 so yea not sure where Razor is going with this team.
@samkohi8705 good one, The All Blacks have become the Anthony Joshua of rugby teams
Why do SA coach's always go for conservative game plan even in games that really don't need that, this past weekend was a classic example of Rassie selecting a very conservative team and trying to just strangle a result out of Argentina, that 17-0 lead showed that a properly balanced Bok team could've ran away with that game.
Even the Cape Town test vs All Blacks, why did they bring back Willie and Pollard etc, when Sacha and Fassi were starting to settle in the jersey.
That's been the issue for years now, I've seen the Boks lose so many games that they just weren't suposed to lose or could've won with the slightest ingenuity in attack or selection
@blaquenguni9249 thanks for sharing your view on this. I guess i see it all about building depth through rotation, I wouldnt call it conservative, but seeing what players can offer what. Rassie is learning a ton about his resources, yet if you look at what Razor Robertson is doing he isnt.
South Africa beat the British and Ireland lion three times South Africa had three penalties in the dying minutes. Mornay Steyn was sen send on field to take all three penalties This was done successfully!
So why did Rassie not send Pollard on the field to take the penalty! Losing the game effect the whole team including Manie!
@michaelmansvelt9843 I would say in response that Rassie wants to give Manie confidence building under these types of situations. Better now than in a world cup knock out game.
Plus also dont forget, Manie did two tremendous contestable kicks in general play that ultimately lead to the penalty opportunity, so if that had not been the case then there would had been no kick.
Todays video on Rassies selections for the next test may be of interest to you Michael
Thanks
First thought haven't even watched the video * i will now* but just want to say Rassie is in your head, in yourheaaad eh eh ! 🎉
Ha ha, hope you enjoyed the video after that.
I think the AB coach is struggling because I don't think the previous coach did a proper "handover" of the baton. Argentina and South Africa have experienced coaches at national level and have been part of the set up since before the RWC. Joe has incredible credentials if you see what he did for Ireland, under his leadership rugby is in good hands in Australia. The Pumas are unlikely to win this year's championship even if they do edge the Springboks in Nelspruit, simply because of points difference. The only way they can lift the cup is if they humiliate the Springboks with a big score and prevent the Springboks from getting a bonus point. Next year I believe the Pumas will be strong contenders as well as Australia. I hope the Springboks continue to improve, the competition is just going to get tougher.
I havent listened to your comments yet but I will say this. I always said Robertson was grossly overated and I've seen nothing to change my mind. In fact I have a lesser opinion than I had at the beginning of his "reign".
6 tests in and many of his newbies have had bugger all game time. So where is the development?
His big problem is that he and his coaching disciples are paralyzed by the fear of losing. On top of that we have a leadership group unable to problem solve in the heat of battle. We also have the worst performing bench in the history of modern rugby. When was the last time the ABs failed to score a point in the last 20 mins of FOUR CONSECUTIVE TESTS? I have never seen a less effective gaggle of coaches. How many voices have the players got ringing in their ears? Bloody pathetic.
Spot on Mark, I agree with about 99% of what you're saying. I will however remain steadfast in my support of Razor, he is a magnificent coach and, like all coaches, he needs a bit of time to get to know the players, systems, different ways at international level and the opportunity to make mistakes, because he too needs to learn. Of all the coaches you mentioned, he has been in the seat for the shortest time. He is showing a willingness to learn by approaching Smith for tactical advice. He inherited a cynical, destructive culture from Hansen that deteriorated even further under Fozzie, the rot set in after 2015 - it takes time to change culture, ask Rassie, it didn't happen overnight. I believe in Razor. Razor is smart and will start to make changes when he's learned what he needs to learn. I'm more worried about NZRU and the leadership of rugby's administration in NZ, THAT is the problem. It is systemic and will take a long time to fix. The pool of players Razor can pick from is very small thanks to some stubborn strategies at the top. And if you then need to compete with soccer, NRL and basketball as well, then we know the answers don't we? The problems in NZ are far bigger than you think.
Razor made his bed, now he needs to lie in it. He was given the option in 2019 to cut his International teeth, but didn't take the chance. Now he chose his coaches and then fired one 5 games in. I am starting to believe one of his issues is that he does not allow anyone to have a differing opinion to him. He doesn't like it. He also, as a self professed communicator, seems to have trouble with trust. Not only did he and Ardie seem to be on a different page during the interview after the Argentina loss, he also threw Ardie under the bus as well. He should know, as a communicator and man manager (his words), trust and loyalty is a 2 way street. When selecting, if you are going to state a particular policy, then you apply it to everyone. Both sides of the ball and they will be picked on form needs to be applied across the board. Previous coaches are irrelevant. He has the chance to build his own team and he hasn't taken it. He is his own worst enemy. I'm actually a Razor fan, but you can't talk about the Crusaders because that team was built by Deans and Blackadder. He added players as he needed to, one at a time. Razor is a good coach and I am sure he will succeed in time. He needs to look at himself and take the learnings he needs. Currently he is not the coach we know he can be.
@Balance-v8x a great comment to open a discussion, so thank you for making it. First off, there is probably no one else around like me who wants Razor to succeed. All of my references to anyone I speak about in my comments in videos is me trying ( not always succeeding) to be constructive in my comments, after all, I am only a rugby fan, not an expert.
You say Razor is a magnificent coach, well that has yet to be proven at International level with this All Black team. Tiger Woods was a magnificent Amateur golf player, but he also transferred that magnificence to the PGA Tour.
A lot of people are referencing to the issues that exist in NZ Rugby. Other than overseas player restrictions, a policy that has been in place for 27 years, what are the other issues that you see with NZ rugby? I am keen to learn.
@@insiderugbywithmark Hi Mark, for sure, Razor still needs to transform into a world class international coach, but he has a good foundation and positive results to show that he can develop. It would've been much better, if he had some international experience before becoming the ABs coach, even if just a premier club in the Northern hemisphere, or like. But he didn't and is the coach now, and needs to grow, fast. In the business world you know that nobody grows without making mistakes and learning from them, yes? The problems he is facing are: 1. the downward trend in AB rugby since 2015, meaning he is already on the back foot. 2. NZ is a small country with only 5 million people and rugby has been losing ground as the number one choice for kids for a long time now. Soccer has always been a competitor, but NRL is going around schools and actively promoting the game - what is NZRU doing in this space? Then there is basketball, one of the fastest growing sports in the world. Compare that against the pool of players the Boks are drawing from, 60 million, and rugby at grassroots in South Africa is the healthiest it has ever been. The quality of talent coming through the ranks is phenomenal, and they are nurtured, looked after, it is a big deal. 3. The word GEES in Afrikaans means Spirit, again, Rassie built this in the country marred by politics and crime, and you see this positive result everywhere, it pulsate throughout the country. There is a very high level of optimism and support in the country. Sure, not all people support Rassie, or his choices, but he has the ability to unite people behind a strong vision and purpose. I don’t see much optimism in NZ, unfortunately, all I see is a destructive culture of war between North and South, the pundits are negative and hypercritical - almost panicky, there is no hope. People want instant gratification and winning at all cost, rather than trusting Razor to learn and grow. 4. NZ as a whole. Perhaps the rugby woes is a reflection of the state of the nation, it is not going well there and has not been well for a while. They have big issues to resolve - infrastructure, 3 Waters, housing, health, social, political, roads, living cost. There is a lot of stress in NZ at the moment, and in my humble opinion, it affects everything and everyone. I love NZ, and I love the ABs, I lived there for a very long time, and I do hope they get together as a nation and sort themselves out. I've always admired the Kiwi ingenuity, and hope to see the country bounce back towards a flourishing state.
If you can’t lure people away from the boredom of rugby league to rugby union then you are the problem. There move to orange jerseys was never a good move
@Wolf-hh4rv OK, thanks for sharing that
Schmidt for AB ‘s coach in Jan ?
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@ericb8888 April fools joke.
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Abs vs Aus game 2
1. T Williams
2. A Aumua
3. E De Groot
4. S Barrett
5. T Vaai
6. S Finau
7. E Blackadder / D Papalii
8. W Sititi
9. C Ratima
10. D McKenzie
11. C Clarke
12. J Barrett
13. B Proctor
14. S Reece
15. W Jordan
16. C Taylor
17. T Lomax
18. P Tosi
19. S Darry
20. A Savea
21. L Jacobson
22. R Ioane
23. B Barrett
Maybe this team will fix the bench problem , looking for a strong finish w the bench selection .
Going for a 6-2 split as forwards seem to get tired in the 2nd half . I believe dominant forward pack in the 2nd half will be good for ABs
Jordie Barrett’s out this week.
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You had me until DMAC starting at 10
@@insiderugbywithmark true, maybe give Plummer the start @ 10 . Hes got good experience in super rugby and needs international experience. This game is a dead rubber game anyway
Razor has been a major disappointment so far to say the least
@philliproberts7294 would like to know why you think that.
@@insiderugbywithmark picking all of fosters team playing players not in there position that got them to be All blacks in the first place having 4 selectors sticking with TJ if your Surname is Barrett your in the 23 that goes for the so called Captain who has no mana and is the 3rd best lock and they are definitely not playing better than Ian Fosters team and if you see the body language between Ardie and Razor at those two press conferences you can see Ardie doesn't like him much and who else isn't buying in 💯 was really hoping for an existing new brand of Rugby retuning us to number 1 and in reality we are about 4 or 5 and at the end of the North tour we could be 6th sorry for being a bit negative Mark but you asked
@@philliproberts7294 Ardie deserves to go and play for some decent coin overseas than be involved with the current circus.
@@JodyForbes Agreed and he's not playing that well is his heart 💯 in it with Razor na
@@philliproberts7294 There's an issue here and it's the captaincy. The dinosaur policy of not selecting overseas based players is not going to end well.
Cane is 32 but in all seriousness, he's playing well enough to still be the most obvious captain, and he's in the right position to lead. He's been there, has had the injuries, the setbacks, the adversity..
The All Blacks have no obvious captain beyond leaning back to him. He's 32, it's not like he's 36 and the RWC is 3 years away???
If I was Australia's coach they would be in the gym everyday to build strength, They are being run over by the other teams. Also stop tackling as the player passes by and tackle head on. That my observation for what it is worth.
@cee5050 thanks so much for sharing such an interesting comment. I will respectfully say, if you ever get the chance to stand next to Tanela Tupou or Rob Valetini and tell them they should go more to the gym I advise you to RUN.
They are 2 of the 23. I am referring to the ones that need it. Watch the matches. They don't match up most of the time. They don't tackle head on most of the time allowing players to slip past. I think I saw one really good tackle. I am sure there were more but everyone needs to front up. It's a team sport. The skill is there but not the commitment. That is my view but I am not a coach. I would just like Australia to do better and also beat the B&I Lions.
Hi Mark, i humbly disagree re oz rugby. I'm not there, so i don't know, but from the outside looking in, i see very few ex-oz players coming thru as coaches (too busy doing podcasts). It's fine to bring in Schmidt, Rennie or others for the wallabies, but what quality of coaching are development levels getting? NRL is actually losing to AFL , cricket and football for playing numbers and eyeballs. Rugby union is below even that level of interest in oz, behind netball for player numbers, and even badminton! They're on the ropes IMO, regardless of what Schmidt does at int'l level.
Re Razor. 100% agree. I'm a cruz fan, big razor fan, but very concerned with what the team is doing. I do believe the squad he has is good enough for 80min performances, so I believe the issues lie mainly with Razor, his selections and strategies. I do think he deserves his shot, and isn't overrated, but probably has a lot to learn about test match rugby
@Thudsrayz awesome, thank you for disagreeing with me. Love that.
Ok, allow me if you will to add some more of my opinions around Australia. I lived there off and on for 20 years. I got quite up close and personal with some Aussie rugby folks during that time. I met with the likes of Nick Farr Jones, James Horwell, Tim Horan etc. So lets look at present day. One of Joe Schmidts KPI´s in his contract is to embed a coaching pathway program for Aussie coaches. As much as his legacy will be what the Wallabies do on the field, Rugby Australia have tasked him with making sure that the depth and quality of coaching improves a lot. All this as a lead up to RWC 2027. 68´000 people turned up in the weekend to watch Bledisloe 1, thats brilliant, and 1.7m watched on TV. Australia playing good competitive rugby is what the fans want, they wont desert the wallabies.
@@insiderugbywithmark thanks for the response and insight. Definitely appreciate your knowledge (and mildly jealous you got to meet Nick Farr Jones and Tim Horan - legends of my childhood), and I certainly don't follow the stats etc. Genuine question I'd have is how consistent is that fan base? NZ v Oz is a circle the date event for sports fans in our region. Are they getting the same no. of viewers for other opponents?
So ABs took their foot off the pedal but Aussie took their foot off in sane way against Argentina yet they are looking good. I think your wrong Australia will be thumped because they are no where near it yet.
@TamScott-v4f OK, great for sharing your opinion, lets see what happens. Time is always the keeper of the truth. Happy to eat my words if I have too.
This mentality of thinking immediate success is just the way it should be is idiotic. Creating an entirely new support and coaching team in addition to replacing key roles that moved overseas takes time no matter what you think even with all your impressive accomplishments in your armchair coaching. You will see.
@ashinch0r hey, thanks so much for offering your view on things, much appreciated, didnt need the idiotic thing, but ok.
Razor has been a disappointment. Its not easy saying that because his record in super rugby speaks for itself. Bit the reality is that he started in conservative fashion selecting players from the previous coaching regime while he feels his way into international rugby. His inexperience has shown itself in his selections and tactics and the opinion of many that he should have gained some overseas experience first before applying for the all blacks job is looking more and more like excellent advice that he should have taken. The ppersonality of a coach rubs off on the team and the tendency to panic and concede yellow cards in the dying minutes of a game looks like something which we will have to get used to going forward.
@charleswanderi7737 thanks for sharing your views on this one. Tough job to come into off the back isnt it, with so much pressure coming at you from all quarters in NZ and overseas. Lets see how it turns out, too early to call for me, many things can, and will still happen. Lets see where we are at post Northern Tour and what evolves in between.
Contepomi is clearly doing the best work compared to the skill in his squad vs the Boks and AB's. The argentine backrow is world class but the rest of that team isnt that amazing player wise.
@austingtir thanks so much for the comment, and I will respectfully disagree with you on the Argentina team. Albonoz is going to be a very special No 10 and he is already very, very good. Matteo Carraras on the wing is perhaps one of the most under rated wingers in world rugby, he is absolute class and score tries all of the time. What Argentina brings in addition is team spirit, hard work and very clever rugby brains, that in itself is, and will win many rugby games.
@@insiderugbywithmark Yeah but if the AB's and boks play to their capacity they'll still put 30 to 50+ on that argentine team just like they did in the WC semi. Contepomi is just getting the best out of them that anybody has. The boks are going to obliterate them at home this weekend its inevitable.