3 Simple Ways to Play "Outside" - Jazz Guitar Lesson

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2024

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  • @MrStanleyMilton
    @MrStanleyMilton 7 місяців тому +3

    NICE SOUND ETC..BUT CAN'T SEE THE ENTIRE GUITAR NECK...

    • @russelljames1582
      @russelljames1582 7 місяців тому +7

      Dude he posted the notes. Just read the music lmao

    • @Corai12
      @Corai12 7 місяців тому

      😂

    • @middlebit
      @middlebit Місяць тому

      But look at his door!

  • @user-hp1tt1el9d
    @user-hp1tt1el9d 7 місяців тому +15

    ayo it might just be me, but the fact that he was like “it’s simple, just use the scale a half step above / below; like this” and then proceeded to display years of fluency and experience in the bebop language via a single lick cracked me the hell up!
    Thank you! 🙏🏽

    • @heatherperleberg7816
      @heatherperleberg7816 7 місяців тому +3

      He rips through those lines like they're nothing. We'll get there one day.

  • @Sleestackx
    @Sleestackx 7 місяців тому +8

    In less than 5 min everything I’ve been wondering for the last 20 years. I love you.

  • @thefactorycollective
    @thefactorycollective 7 місяців тому +16

    Those pink upside down sunglasses should be an Icon staple of you. It just shows your not affraid to step out of othe box. Lol. Man, your playing and lessons are soo good. You are very much appreciated. MORE sunglasses antique!

    • @cecilalexander8773
      @cecilalexander8773  7 місяців тому +9

      Thanks so much and thanks for watching! The sunglasses add a lot to the tone

  • @qbass00
    @qbass00 7 місяців тому +3

    These concepts work really well for bass too. Thank you for this lesson.

  • @jamesdaviesguitar
    @jamesdaviesguitar 7 місяців тому +13

    Nice quick lesson mate! 😊

  • @Faz99Master
    @Faz99Master 24 дні тому

    Perfect time is essential to execute these ideas so that the make sense.

  • @jorgebermejo3708
    @jorgebermejo3708 7 місяців тому +3

    Thanks, great lesson! It´s amazing that the major 3rd sub works, but somehow it does. It would be great to see your left hand´s digitation in future videos 🙏

  • @semmonemmo
    @semmonemmo 7 місяців тому +3

    You sound really nice on the classical! Would like to hear more of that

  • @sulfur4559
    @sulfur4559 7 місяців тому +6

    You've been killin it lately with the content! I hope you continue to talk about outside concepts more in the future.

    • @cecilalexander8773
      @cecilalexander8773  7 місяців тому +4

      Thanks for checking it out! Definitely have a lot more to say about outside stuff, more to come

  • @daveydoodle1916
    @daveydoodle1916 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for taking time out of your day to do this.😊

  • @naveamitay
    @naveamitay 7 місяців тому +7

    Amazing content and playing as always

  • @jamesgomez753
    @jamesgomez753 7 місяців тому +1

    Great lines

  • @geoffstockton
    @geoffstockton 7 місяців тому +1

    I love the minor thirds/major thirds idea. I’ve flirted with that as a result of exploring the major and minor triads of the diminished scale and augmented scale but haven’t gone directly at it like this.
    My favorite approach to outside playing now is that whole intervallic improvisation idea of picking two intervals to alternate strictly between while switching direction at will. Out of that general idea, emerges a bunch of non-harmonic patterns that I’ve grown comfortable with and can string together an unlimited amount of ways.
    You can do it with any interval pair but I’ve been really focused on whole-step/half-step, so far. It sounds like a floating diminished scale that doesn’t care what the chord is. I’ve worked with whole-step/minor-3rd some and that sounds like a floating pentatonic sound. Looking forward to working with whole-step/perfect 4th, though. Floating suspended.

  • @ulfsvensson9710
    @ulfsvensson9710 7 місяців тому +1

    Lots of information in just a few minutes! Wow!

  • @jamesrobinson529
    @jamesrobinson529 7 місяців тому +1

    Incredibly useful information!

  • @AntwhaleNearfar
    @AntwhaleNearfar 7 місяців тому +4

    This was great. Straight to it and concise and clear explanations of the concepts being taught. Thank you.

  • @LucaDAlterioMusic
    @LucaDAlterioMusic 7 місяців тому +1

    Great quick lesson!!

  • @doobielespaul1677
    @doobielespaul1677 7 місяців тому +1

    This is useful info and examples with transcriptions. I know what I"m practicing today, thanks for the upload Cecil!

  • @markkindermannart4028
    @markkindermannart4028 7 місяців тому +40

    You’re an amazing player, but I’d rather see your left hand than that doorknob

  • @francklessagio1756
    @francklessagio1756 7 місяців тому +1

    great lesson thank you i would like to see more examples of playing outside with the use of pentatonics or triad from diminished wh/hw you're a really great guitarist

  • @bumbleshred
    @bumbleshred 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for this lesson ! I have learnt a lot thanks to your pdf with jlv, they are a big source of inspiration for me. Can't wait for your next video on outside playing ! 👍👍👍

  • @scott-cu6pg
    @scott-cu6pg 7 місяців тому +2

    Master! Great as always!!! Thanks for share!

  • @inmemoryofin
    @inmemoryofin 7 місяців тому

    Killer playing and vibe cheers

  • @MotorGoblin
    @MotorGoblin 7 місяців тому +1

    That's cool man, thanks for a concise lesson!

  • @angelperezmonarrez9892
    @angelperezmonarrez9892 7 місяців тому

    Great lesson and I dig your teaching demeanor. You remind me of a friend of mine who’s one of the coolest guys I’ve ever met

  • @tomneily9506
    @tomneily9506 7 місяців тому

    Love that sound

  • @searchingandsearching
    @searchingandsearching 7 місяців тому

    Simple but really useful lesson and astonishing demonstrations !!
    Great work !! Look forward to see more

  • @GuitarGangsta
    @GuitarGangsta 7 місяців тому

    Cecil, first of all - THANK YOU for this rich knowledge !
    Regarding possible lessons -
    Did you get into those Martino cycles where he had those geometric shapes but were like chord synonyms of each other?
    - its been about 20 years since I’ve seen that (it was diminished and augmented cycles - something like that )

  • @tonyflorez703
    @tonyflorez703 7 місяців тому +2

    Damn
    Youre right hand 🔥🥵
    Thankyou good lesson, im working on it right now!

  • @keithlamontdavis8047
    @keithlamontdavis8047 7 місяців тому

    That was extremely helpful. Thank you.

  • @philippgrunert8776
    @philippgrunert8776 7 місяців тому

    This is brilliant, will go though all the lines shown to understand how to create lines to outline chords. I never really understood that.

  • @griffinvolner7121
    @griffinvolner7121 7 місяців тому

    This is good content, short and understandable, ty

  • @maarifawalcott5145
    @maarifawalcott5145 7 місяців тому

    I enjoyed listening.

  • @lucaseckrich4579
    @lucaseckrich4579 7 місяців тому +1

    Killing lesson!! also, lmao at the video description

  • @giovi.0
    @giovi.0 7 місяців тому

    Wonderful information and ideas. Thank you so much.

  • @evan2217
    @evan2217 7 місяців тому

    Super helpful, thanks!!

  • @CharlesEBusa
    @CharlesEBusa 7 місяців тому

    Loving those concepts! Thanks for sharing!

  • @BrendaBoykin-qz5dj
    @BrendaBoykin-qz5dj 7 місяців тому

    Thank you, Cecil.⭐🌹⭐

  • @alanblakeguitarist
    @alanblakeguitarist 5 місяців тому

    Cool thanks! 🔥

  • @Alan-zi2rs
    @Alan-zi2rs 7 місяців тому +1

    Sweet!

  • @lysakig123
    @lysakig123 9 днів тому

    Thanks!!!

  • @fviannaval
    @fviannaval 7 місяців тому

    Thank you, that was really insightful!

  • @Dougb612
    @Dougb612 7 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video=I subscribe, thanks

  • @valentinexyz
    @valentinexyz 7 місяців тому

    Hi there Cecil, hope you're well. Recently discovered your channel, it's excellent and very rewarding.
    Having played guitar for almost 40 years, could you give me any advice regarding playing lead lines at speed? I'm a relatively proficient player, not spectacular, but I'd like to 'up my game', and knock out some faster lines. I appreciate it's not about speed, but I'm wondering, at my age, have I simply reached a point of no improvement?
    I play every day, have studied some comping, some Charlie Christian lead lines, some Tiny Grimes, etc. I can hold my head up with jazzing the chords, but I don't seem to be getting quicker with lead lines. I'm happy playing changes, as they say.
    Is muscle memory holding me back? Any suggestions gratefully received, and apologies for the rambling message. I really appreciate your videos. Peace and love.

  • @sixmillionaccountssilenced6721
    @sixmillionaccountssilenced6721 7 місяців тому +1

    How about using major from half-step lower? In case of Dm7 that woud be Db lydian/ioninan/major pentatonic? I remember some guy saying that this is the old trick many famous jazzists used. This concept seems based on mixing major / minor tonalities in the melody. In this case Dm7 can be seen as III in Bb major while Dbmaj7 is bIII from parallel Bb minor. You can also find similar connection between VI Gm7 and bVI Gbmaj7.

  • @PedroSilvaMusic
    @PedroSilvaMusic 7 місяців тому

    Nice work 🤟🤠🤟

  • @arialexandermusic
    @arialexandermusic 7 місяців тому

    Best teacher Ever!!!!

  • @randyhetlage9202
    @randyhetlage9202 7 місяців тому

    good stuff.thanks.

  • @christianlacheze3323
    @christianlacheze3323 7 місяців тому +1

    The first clear and concise explanation I find on this subject.
    Thanks a lot!

  • @jorgegonzalez403
    @jorgegonzalez403 7 місяців тому

    Awesome stuff!!
    Can you give me one or two examples of famous recordings where you got these ideas from? 🙏

  • @landajimmy
    @landajimmy 7 місяців тому +1

    Great lesson. Is there a book you can recommend where it demonstrates more lines like the ones you played? I need to improve my vocabulary.

    • @cecilalexander8773
      @cecilalexander8773  7 місяців тому

      I can't say I really got much from any books, just recordings. I think for the harmonic side of things, checking out Trane and Mccoy is a good place for ideas. The vocabulary in the lines is mostly bebop derived though

  • @freddymclain
    @freddymclain 7 місяців тому +1

    great....i can get some mileage out o' this!

  • @waynehays2558
    @waynehays2558 7 місяців тому

    Good stuff. A suggestion though. on a lesson like this it would be much better with a backing track or just a vamp recorded into a looper pedal and played back while improvising. It would just be better to hear the substitutions over the respective minor chords. Anyway, great stuff

  • @red-eyedmagister1595
    @red-eyedmagister1595 7 місяців тому +1

    Dude can play

  • @gnvtr20s
    @gnvtr20s 7 місяців тому

    Wish I could see your fretting hand the entire time! Great vid though! Subbed!

  • @joedeadwildin7730
    @joedeadwildin7730 7 місяців тому

    Tell us about enclosures and scale permutations in soloing

  • @gen_music
    @gen_music 7 місяців тому +1

    Same can be applied to static Dominant or Major or Diminished?? Thank you 🙏

    • @cecilalexander8773
      @cecilalexander8773  7 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I thinkyou can use it on all those, but the diminished chord is often functioning as a dominant chord (ex: C#dim7 to Dmin7 is the same A7b9 to Dmin7), so I'd think of the related dominant (and its related subs) while soloing

    • @gen_music
      @gen_music 7 місяців тому

      @@cecilalexander8773 thx a million ✌️

  • @pablotito79
    @pablotito79 7 місяців тому +1

    Dm7 is aeolian? the rest of outside options are aeolian, or can be switched to dorian, minor melodic, etc?

    • @cecilalexander8773
      @cecilalexander8773  7 місяців тому +1

      I'd say trust your ears (because anything can work) but I think that I'm mostly playing nat. 6 stuff- with the exception of the 1st line- there's a b6 on the dmin7 at the end. I'm usually more into Dorian and Melodic minor than Aeolian

  • @ogbog9927
    @ogbog9927 7 місяців тому

    U doing an acoustic guitar album would be awesome.

  • @astorina
    @astorina 7 місяців тому +1

    Very interesting , any explanation why moving minor or major third above would sound ok ? For minor third there might be some « relation » with diminished scale (not really sure) but what also about major third stepping ?
    Thx very much

    • @cecilalexander8773
      @cecilalexander8773  7 місяців тому +2

      Sure thing! You're right about the minor third sub idea being loosely related to the diminished scale/arpeggio, and I mention in the description that some people justify using the major 3rd thing to the augmented triad, but I don't think that really tells you anything about the way it sounds. I'm not too big on theory as a means of generating ideas, because that way of thinking stopped me from actually playing anything for so many years. Anyways, it just sounds cool! lol

    • @astorina
      @astorina 7 місяців тому

      Great response , even more interesting than the video itself ! Have a nice day

  • @gen_music
    @gen_music 7 місяців тому

    On minor thirds II V relations the first one on Fm7 to Bbmin7 is there any reason to keep it as minor the Bb or it’s Bb7 ??

  • @RTFosmark
    @RTFosmark 7 місяців тому

    Cecil speaks: this makes sense
    Cecil plays: this is f*cking insane

  • @gaabrieel98
    @gaabrieel98 7 місяців тому

    this could be extended to major7 or dominant chords?

  • @pavelzalom9486
    @pavelzalom9486 7 місяців тому +1

    Great lesson! Thanks! In 1:30 there is a fault: you play Bb7, but Bbmin is written. ;)

    • @cecilalexander8773
      @cecilalexander8773  7 місяців тому +1

      by the time I realized it was already too late 😅

  • @Accou25
    @Accou25 7 місяців тому +1

    Cecil, thank you for that short and on point presentation.
    As for lesson ideas, I'd be glad to see your approach on connecting different related (and no so much related) modes\scales with diminished wh\hw scales. I can see that answer is within this question but I guess you might have some interesting waypoints on this topic.

    • @cecilalexander8773
      @cecilalexander8773  7 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching! Cool idea. Just to clarify, do you mean outlining diminished harmony (dimmaj7 chords, 13b9 etc..) or forcing the diminished sound on different harmonies?

    • @Accou25
      @Accou25 7 місяців тому

      @@cecilalexander8773 I meant mostly the easier to grasp for me - second option: forcing the diminished sound on different harmonies.
      So if we got context of one family of diatonic basic chord shapes - maj7, min7, dom7, halfDim7 - and I want to go from outlining one chord\mode to another by connecting them with dim7 lines\patterns. Jumping from one mode to another in one same Scale.
      Like from Dorian Dm to Dom G7 - in one diatonic family.
      Or may be even switching scales like from Dorian Dm to some mode of melodic minor.
      1st obvious thought is to ground on similar intervals in diatonic h-w or w-h to same intervals of dim7 pattern.
      My problem in this case is when I try to play it - it goes quite mechanical, doesn't sound natural. I saw Benson (or any other master) does it, going in and out of dim7 in improvisation and it sounds solid. But I don't have example.
      Again it might be some surface level thing by I'm still not moving forward with this topic. So it bothers me.

  • @christophercole8877
    @christophercole8877 3 місяці тому

    Loved the sunglasses trope… great playing but too fast to follow as a lesson and need to see whole neck. (71-year-old amateur here.) Maybe smaller chunks parsed and slowed…?

  • @logia6
    @logia6 7 місяців тому

    Nice door knob

  • @dantenapoles5951
    @dantenapoles5951 7 місяців тому

    I appreciate the video and tab my brother but the door knob gotta Go! Fix the camera for next video, still big thumbs up and nice licks!

  • @JoJoGMusic
    @JoJoGMusic 7 місяців тому

    That drop D caught me off guard lol

    • @cecilalexander8773
      @cecilalexander8773  7 місяців тому

      lol I had been shedding some Lamb of God riffs before this

  • @GuitarJawn
    @GuitarJawn 7 місяців тому +1

    I've been faking it for a few years. Just playng all those notes in between the diatonic notes. Now I'm starting to understand without an understanding

  • @share_a_cokewithdre
    @share_a_cokewithdre 3 місяці тому

    3:23

  • @jackholladay2001
    @jackholladay2001 7 місяців тому

    This is wisdom right here. Secrets. It is difficult to intuit something like this with ear training alone because it requires you to track polytonal harmony in real time. Standard jazz harmony is already difficult enough for most. Tracking two or more keys simultaneously requires breaking out of the formal system that ear training and music theory are taught in. Have fun figuring this out by applying solfege to sets of notes that are almost entirely in another key. I guess they call it playing out for a reason…
    Also if you need to see exactly what’s being played in order to understand something like this then it’s probably out of your reach…go learn how to play a G major chord…in tune…The point isn’t to copy this guy’s lines note for note. If anything the transcription is more useful for mapping out the relationships of each individual note to the chord it’s harmonizing with anyway. And if you actually understand what this dude is saying you can apply the ideas yourself and make your own lines.
    Great video. Subscribed for more info about this type of playing.

  • @zoidetrope
    @zoidetrope 7 місяців тому

    Se ve claramente la perilla de la puerta 😂

  • @pascaljeanne8002
    @pascaljeanne8002 7 місяців тому +1

    looks cool but too fast and we dont see your left hand ? ok !

  • @foriegnuniter
    @foriegnuniter 7 місяців тому

    We can’t see your hands mate, turn the camera or scoot back

  • @rickclick8359
    @rickclick8359 7 місяців тому

    I played outside once but it started raining.