wow, I can't believe this video is up to over 10k views! Glad to have helped all the K1 lovers out there! I still have one and still use it on almost all of my music!
Thanks Man - glad you did this. I needed it to reset and update my good old MFB Dominion X. Didn´t know how to use MIDI-OX correctly... you save my day 😄
YOU, Sir, are a lifesaver! I was having MIDI issues with my K1, signals getting crossed when multiple keys were pressed. Someone online suggested replacing the internal battery with a new one, which I did along with a battery holder... and all my sounds were lost. This was a year ago or thereabouts, which meant I had a dead board since I couldn't even use it as a controller. THIS WEEK I discovered the problem wasn't the MIDI interface, and wasn't the K1, it was a combination of both... so I swapped interfaces. I'd tried using MIDI-OX before with no luck, but your video outlining all the settings made it all work. Yay! Thank you!
Hi Greg, I also lost all the internal patches. So I downloaded them from www.kawaius.com/Downloads/download_archive-2.html but am having trouble transferring them. Midi-Ox says it sent OK and the K1 midi indicator square flashes but alas, no patches. What settings did you use on your K1? (rcv channel, omni, etc) Thanks
It's been a while (7 months according to UA-cam), but I used the exact settings the OP used. I don't even remember the steps at this point! :) As a side note, they didn't get retained by the K1 after I unplugged it, so the battery doesn't seem to work.
Finally, I was able to upload the patches! It all depends on the sysex configuration. For communication to work properly, huge delays are needed. You should make adjustments until the left upper square flash when sending patches, it means correct reception by the device, which is crucial! In my case, Low level input buffers: Size 1024 Num 32 ... Low level output buffers: Size 2 Num 2 ... delays both 200ms, Higher values stopped the transmission. Give me information if for someone it was helpful. Greetings from Poland.
that's awesome, glad you got it all working. My older K1 I used to have to mess with the buffer settings to get it to work, but my current K1r it works with the default settings. I'm not exactly sure why.
@@demonicsweaters Maybe they did some improvements, my old K1 demand sending byte after byte with pauses. I don't think the problem was the interface or the computer with the program. I connected the oscilloscope to the input and the transmission was always visible at each buffer setting. Anyway i think that it might be a clue , extremely slowlest possible transmision to the keyboard. Entire upload takes about 10min but it works.
You are providing a public service. thanks so much. I have a K1 I bought in 1989 (battery still good!). I also have a K1r. I just downloaded sound set from Kawai & did a midi-ox transfer. A lot of patches missing. I need to find a patch library.
This is good to know, because I've been needing to the same thing to my K4. The battery had been replaced and worked great, up until the power switch goofed up and somehow while tinkering with it, it dumped all of its presets. This will be my first time messing with any patch uploads.
I really wish there was a decent patch librarian for this to make it a bit easier. I can transfer bulk patch banks but I'd really like to be able to send a single patch, listen, save it if I like it, and repeat - essentially having all the presets I want saved onto it. MIDIQuest has a librarian/editor but they can fuck right off with the price they are asking.
You can send a single patch with midiox. It has to do with the type of sysex data you send. I don't have my K1 anymore, but I used to do this all the time. You need to look at the K1 Manual to see which position in the hex file designates patch only. I would keep tons of files just in a folder then transfer them to my K1 when I wanted them.
If you scroll to the bottom of this manual, all the sysex detailswww.kawaius-tsd.com/OM/K_SYNTH/K1WAVE~1.PDF look for the ones that say "one single data" and "one multi data"
The hexidecimal thing for where you are sending the patch is a little different than how you explain it in the video: A1-A8 is 00-07 B1-B2 is 08-09 B3-B8 is 0A-0F C1-C8 is 10-17 D1-D2 is 18-19 D3-D8 is 1A-1F Haven’t looked at the hexidecimal system for the lower case single banks or the multi patches yet but hope this helps!
SYSEX versions of all K-1 factory sound banks. (Includes read me instructions and a SYSEX utility for PC). kawaius.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/K1.zip
there should be a way. I don't have a modern Mac to try it with, but I'm told that Wine will run on the newest Mac OS, and if it does you should be able to run midi-ox in Wine on mac, since it works fine in Linux. Or another option would be to find a program the runs natively on OSX that can send and receive sysex data. Something like this should do the trick www.macupdate.com/app/mac/28692/sysex-librarian
Thanks so much for making the effort to put this up I have a Kawai k4 that has lost all it sounds and I am guessing this would work for me to, I have not been looking forward to the task of rebuilding a library. Also EgoShredder I wish I could get in touch with you I am in uk also and Im sure you have a lot of knowledge you could pass on.
Hi bro, do you know if there is a similar way that I could save rhythms to my laptop that I created on my SR 16 drum machine? If I could, then I could probably load the same rhythms as styles to my yamaha keyboard.
You mentioned that you created that "airyflute" sound. Did you make it on your computer and how did you make it compatible with your keyboard? Is there a software for doing that? Thanks
I was hoping that there is a program that I could use to create new programs and combinations and then send them to my korg 01 Wfd via sysex. Thank you D S.
there are some more advanced sysex editors out there that do similar things, but I can't really tell you a specific product. I do know they exist though.
Hey @demonicsweaters can you plz help me out loading in the patches i just can't figure out why my k1 isn't receiving any of the sysex files I've tried my cable on other synths that works fine
Sorry back with another question, I'm getting back to music after a long hiatus. You mention a usb to midi lead. Can you just use this for data transfer to the synth, no midi interface or expanded soundcard or anything?. If so is there a particular input on the computer you use or just any usb slot. I'm going to be using a windows pc. Thanks for any help you can give.
+mathew smith yeah well the USB to midi cable is actually a midi interface. All computers have midi support, Linux, Mac, and Windows. Just make sure the cable is compatible with your OS. Most of them out there will work in Linux and Windows. Mac can be a little more picky.
Hi, This is my problem i would like some help with. I have 12 whole patch sets which i downloaded. I like a few sounds from each patch but how do i isolate a sound to load them up individually. Obviously with a memory card you could save to it but without one how can i tell which data is the individual patch? Thanks
Hi, thank you for this tutorial. Could I ask, I have followed the instructionsin your video, and it states that the midi has gone through but there are no changes to my sounds. I am using windows 10, I am not sure whether that makes a difference. Thank you
Yes, I changed the buffer settings, however I do not have Linex. When you say is the K1 able to receive midi, I went into the system settings and changed the midi exclusive to on.
Thank you for this video my internal battery died on my k1m so I will need to reload my factory patches after I replace the battery and install a battery holder to make my life a bit easier next time the battery needs replacement. would amidi work for sending sysx to the synth? I dont have a midi cable that works with my current windows computer but my stupidly slow linux box works just fine with the various command line midi tools and my old joystick port based midi cable. I do not even have xorg currently installed on the system I control the linux box purely via ssh.
Trekeyus yay just tested it and it worked just fine now all I need to do is replace that darn battery. ps for those wondering "amidi -p hw:1 -s K1INT.SYX" amidi expects hw:numbers vs other apps such as aplaymidi witch expects 20:0 Im so happy to have brought my synth back to life. still going to install midiox thouhg on my windows system foe easy editing of syx files.
Please help a Kawai K4 user. I have tried midiox but can't seem to get it happening. Nothing changes after i "send sysex" to the Kawai K4. I am running windows 10 to an RME Babyface Pro with midi going out of port one into a Kawai K4 on midi channel 3. Have followed the video "Transfer Patches To Kawai K1 Using Midi-OX " any help would be greatly appreciated cheers x
hola y con alguna targeta ram se puede cargar los sonidos tengo el cable midi usb y los sonidos y no se como se hace que programa se usa y como se hace para poner el mismo canal asi queda la misma frecuencia
hola tengo un modulo kawai k1r se me borraron los sonidos queria preguntarle como se hace para cargarle los sonidos y si se le puede poner del kawai k4 k11
jorge daniel Villagra Hi. You can use the method above to get the patches back into the K1. You'll need to find the patch sysex files online somewhere, just try to do some googling and you'll probably find them. You can't put K4 or K11 patches on the K1, they won't work. Hope that helps.
Hi Demonic Sweaters thank you so much for this video. This is exactly what I want to do on my Korg 01Wfd. Can I use the patches that are being sold on dvd's? I found a dvd on ebay that has the M1 sounds and I really wanted the famous M1 piano sound on my 01 Wfd. I guess I need to load the patches first to my computer and take it from there. Any advice you give will be appreciated.
Yeah, that's exactly what I did with the K1, I got this patch bank from ebay and was successfully able to transfer them with MIDI Ox. As long as the O1Wfd can receive sysex data, you should be able to do it. I would start out with the same buffer settings I suggested for the K1, since the 01W is from around the same time period. But you're going to need to find the midi specifications in the manual to determine the specific info you would need to change to write to certain patch banks etc... It should be totally possible though.
Hi Demonic Sweaters, I tried loading on the Korg M1 Patches to my 01W , from a dvd I bought off ebay and even though I can see numbers changing on my 01W, no M1 patches are actually loaded on to the 01W. I wonder if there is something I am not doing rght. I can also see added hexadecimals to my laptop when I sent patches from the 01W, so I assume that the midi dump function is working. Any ideas?
friend, you can upload video of how to reset the factory or how to install a bank or sysex sound to the kawai k4 ... I would really appreciate it because my sounds were erased and I only have 1 in single and 1 in multi
Well, I don't have a K4, or I would. But I would imagine the same technique would work. Find the original sysex data online, then use midiox to transfer it to the synth. Make sure your internal battery is good.
Hi DS! I followed your steps in Midi-Ox but what settings do I need to apply on the K-1 itself? I set INT PROTECT to OFF and RCV EXCL to ON, but alas the internal patches are not updating. Do you remember if you have to be in a certain menu or anything on the K-1 to receive Sysex?
Hi, I no longer have my K1, but obviously you will want to disable protection and allow it to receive sysex data. This information is in the K1 manual. Thanks for watching!
I also use MIDI-OX and it works perfectly, BUT I had to adjust the Sys Exc input and output buffer sizes to 1024 and 128 (the default is 256 and 32); I also doubled the output timing buffers to 120ms (default is 60). I have to do this otherwise the data does not all get through to the K1 successfully, e.g. some patches or even whole banks can be missing. It's in the settings on this page vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/ion-micron/images/c/c2/MidiOx_4.png/revision/latest?cb=20110911182224
@@jaygeedeepbro Without going into my studio and checking, I forget exactly which way around it is. You will not do any harm by trying both ways though, you either get a successful syx exc dump or not. Other than that just make sure you are sending and receiving on the same MIDI channel in the K1 and computer interface settings. Another method that is easy, is to convert the syx files into MIDI files and then import, open and play in your DAW sequencer to your Kawai K1. Make sure to keep the song tempo slow, e.g. 80 bpm to avoid any data loss. I looked just now and saw a simple free software program to do this, callled Sysex to Text which does three different formats.
hi, thanks for the video. just want to ask how can I load the default patches from my computer to kawai k1 ii? I tried everything you've said but still unsuccessful. I just recently got my kawai k1 ii but the default patches are missing except one (organ). thanks in advance for your help.
press the system key until you see "tune" then use the joystick to adjust or the plus and minus keys. This lets you fine tune the whole keyboard. If you want to transpose by whole values, select "transpose" hope that helps!
Hola, necesito tu ayuda urgentee. hice un reset del kawai k-1, y perdi todos los sonidos, y no puedo hacer lo que explicas en este video. como debe estar configurado el kawai para que reciba los datos? porque hago todo los pasos que mostras, pero en el kawai, jamas aparece.
Dear Mr. Sweaters, I've been trying to send a SysEx patch (A105) from the Kawai Website for months now. I followed your videos instructions to the 'T" and nothing every happens to my Kawai K1 II, still has the same old boring sounds from factory (A200). I contacted Kawai and they told me to use a DAW program like Anvil Studio but I cannot figure out how to even begin to send MIDI files to keyboard with that program compared to MIDI-OX or Bome SendSX. I am running an HP TouchSmart with Windows 7 Basic. Do you have any other suggestions? I am just dying over here trying to get these cool ass sounds on my humble little old synth. Much appreciate your input. Thanks..
hmmm, I really don't know. Maybe it's a windows 7 basic problem? I don't have my K1 anymore to test anything else. Just make sure your K1 is set to receive midi sysex. Also make sure the sysex data is compatable with the k1.
Hey of anyone could help me, but im havin troubles when i want to transfer the patches, nothing happens, i put all the settings that the manual specifies but nothing happens, and when i want to dump files the same thing, nothing happens, the dude i bought the kawai from modified the sounds to a very strange sound, maybe for a church or something i want to change them so badly, plz help me out
Greetings. You are pretty well trained on this stuff. I just loaded some 3rd party sounds with midi ox to my K1m and need the original sounds but cant find them. Is there a link for them somewhere? Appreciate and help.
Hahah! HI JUSTIN! Its Ryan Hand. I just changed the battery in my Kawaii K1 and was looking for a factory reset code and your face popped up. Hope all is well bud.
My battery died. I tried this solution step by step as you said and still have only PC-SPEAKER like sounds. I'm sending syx - progress bar increases - and nothing is changed. I have Ebay style interface too . I think is working ok - i can see .pressed keyboard buttons on my notebook screen. Besides, i still don't know what is this "syx" file? Is this some kind of RAW data or only configuration file? I tried to download data from synthesizer - all instruments have lenght of 7 bytes... I don't know what to do next.
okay, well it sounds like the interface is working. Did you go in and change the buffer settings in midi ox like I said in the video? Also, there is a setting within the K1 that I forgot to mention that enables it to receive midi data. Look at the manual in the midi chapter around page 40 www.vintagesynth.com/manuals/K1Synth.pdf to see how to enable it to receive data. Sysex stands for "system exclusive data" and can be any type of data the synth contains. Some synths can send patches, banks and settings all via sysex, the k1 can send and receive pretty much everything, you just change what is actually being sent by the different numbers entered in the hex values. All of that info is in the wave list that is linked in the description. Don't give up on it, you're close it sounds!
+demonic sweaters I'm confusing after 1000 times triying to upload something. Maybe i'm doing some stupid mistake or it's hardware failure. Comunications works well in both ways and nothing is changed. Hmmm... Greeting from Poland.
Diablo Roberto, well if you're trying to upgrade the OS, it would most likely be with sysex, not a midi sequence. MIDI OX does not send Sequences. You would need just a regular MIDI sequencer for that.
I just want to add that I live in England (UK) and my K1r rack module came with a totally different factory preset list, to the one on the Kawai USA website. It has taken me a couple of years to hunt down and find the right presets for my UK / EU model. Anyone interested in downloading this can find it here; the file is named "1308.syx" - www.sysexdb.com/synth_detail.aspx?dv=39 The cardboard preset list that came with mine looks like this - i1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii524/Ego_Shredder/Kawai%20K1r/Kawai%20K1%20-%20Presets%20web_zpslyhtyfjw.jpg A word of warning; I also use MIDI-OX and it works perfectly, BUT I had to adjust the Sys Exc input and output buffer sizes to 1024 and 128 (the default is 256 and 32); I also doubled the output timing buffers to 120ms (default is 60). I have to do this otherwise the data does not all get through to the K1 successfully, e.g. some patches or even whole banks can be missing.
oh really? I didn't know that about the UK version. Pretty cool! I mention in the vid as well about changing the buffer sizes too. I had to change mine as well.
Ooops I somehow missed that in your video, probably due to watching different browser tabs at the same time! (bad habit). When I did this I kept increasing the buffers until it finally worked. The default settings caused an entire bank to not be received. The settings you used still caused a few individual presets to not get through. Finally the buffer sizes I used worked.
I wonder if it may also have something to do with the computer and midi interface used? Also, maybe there's a speed difference between the K1 and the K1ii, m, r, etc... just speculating here, but it could be. The settings in my vid always seemed to work for me. I don't have my k1s anymore unfortunately, but have been building a pretty great K1 soundfont which you can hear in a couple of my latest vids.
The K1 is of the generation of MIDI that was much slower CPU-wise. My computer interface is the best on the market, the Edirol UM-880 which keep rising in price on Ebay every year, although they were discontinued in 2003 I think. I've also got a Roland Super MPU64 and my main audio interface is an Roland UA-101. My music computer is an IBM Thinkpad Z61p (Core2 Duo T7600, 3GB RAM, 500GB SSD, Win XP Pro x86). I deliberately got a Thinkpad because they wipe the floor with any other brand and equivalent spec model, and are more compatible, trouble free and customisable. I run a 50 / 50 split of rackmount hardware and VST plugins, and most of the rack has a VST type GUI interface inside Cubase, using Yamaha Studio Connections.
I'll have to check out your K1 soundfont sample banks! Sampling is something I never bothered to get into, although I once tried to use an automated solution called SampleRobot made by Skylife I think. Even though I used a really simple synth to clone, it just did not sound or play right so it obviously needed a lot more user input or something.
Can anyone confirm that first letter should blink while receiving sysex? My K1 can receive command (playing on keyboard) from PC and then first letter becoming black. But when i try to receive sysex nothing is happening on the display. K1 it seems to ignore ONLY sysex files??? What the hell is going on? I see that i'm not the one and only with that issue.
wow, I can't believe this video is up to over 10k views! Glad to have helped all the K1 lovers out there! I still have one and still use it on almost all of my music!
Thanks Man - glad you did this. I needed it to reset and update my good old MFB Dominion X. Didn´t know how to use MIDI-OX correctly... you save my day 😄
YOU, Sir, are a lifesaver! I was having MIDI issues with my K1, signals getting crossed when multiple keys were pressed. Someone online suggested replacing the internal battery with a new one, which I did along with a battery holder... and all my sounds were lost. This was a year ago or thereabouts, which meant I had a dead board since I couldn't even use it as a controller. THIS WEEK I discovered the problem wasn't the MIDI interface, and wasn't the K1, it was a combination of both... so I swapped interfaces. I'd tried using MIDI-OX before with no luck, but your video outlining all the settings made it all work. Yay! Thank you!
+Greg Chance Really glad this helped you out! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Hi Greg, I also lost all the internal patches. So I downloaded them from www.kawaius.com/Downloads/download_archive-2.html but am having trouble transferring them. Midi-Ox says it sent OK and the K1 midi indicator square flashes but alas, no patches. What settings did you use on your K1? (rcv channel, omni, etc) Thanks
It's been a while (7 months according to UA-cam), but I used the exact settings the OP used. I don't even remember the steps at this point! :) As a side note, they didn't get retained by the K1 after I unplugged it, so the battery doesn't seem to work.
it took me a while to find a way to transfer the patches until i found this video. Thanks a lot!
Glad I could help! Video is still somehow being seen often after nearly 10 years! I also still have my K1 :)
Finally, I was able to upload the patches! It all depends on the sysex configuration. For communication to work properly, huge delays are needed. You should make adjustments until the left upper square flash when sending patches, it means correct reception by the device, which is crucial! In my case, Low level input buffers: Size 1024 Num 32 ... Low level output buffers: Size 2 Num 2 ... delays both 200ms, Higher values stopped the transmission. Give me information if for someone it was helpful. Greetings from Poland.
One more thing, cheapest usb-midi was used with success.
that's awesome, glad you got it all working. My older K1 I used to have to mess with the buffer settings to get it to work, but my current K1r it works with the default settings. I'm not exactly sure why.
@@demonicsweaters Maybe they did some improvements, my old K1 demand sending byte after byte with pauses. I don't think the problem was the interface or the computer with the program. I connected the oscilloscope to the input and the transmission was always visible at each buffer setting. Anyway i think that it might be a clue , extremely slowlest possible transmision to the keyboard. Entire upload takes about 10min but it works.
Do you know/have tried, can outline how to dump restore the factory patches to the k1?
@@squishmusic I thoug that this was clearly explained by the autor. There is nothing else to do.
Thanks, factory reset my old K1 II with your help, fantastic. Just using as a midi controller but wanted to hear the old sounds.
+SpinDreams that's great! So glad it helped you! I really want another K1 soon.
You are providing a public service. thanks so much. I have a K1 I bought in 1989 (battery still good!). I also have a K1r. I just downloaded sound set from Kawai & did a midi-ox transfer. A lot of patches missing. I need to find a patch library.
It worked with my second hand K4 too!! Thank you.
oh nice!
This is good to know, because I've been needing to the same thing to my K4. The battery had been replaced and worked great, up until the power switch goofed up and somehow while tinkering with it, it dumped all of its presets. This will be my first time messing with any patch uploads.
You saved me about 6 hours of my life with this video! Thank you so much.
glad it helped!
I really wish there was a decent patch librarian for this to make it a bit easier. I can transfer bulk patch banks but I'd really like to be able to send a single patch, listen, save it if I like it, and repeat - essentially having all the presets I want saved onto it. MIDIQuest has a librarian/editor but they can fuck right off with the price they are asking.
You can send a single patch with midiox. It has to do with the type of sysex data you send. I don't have my K1 anymore, but I used to do this all the time. You need to look at the K1 Manual to see which position in the hex file designates patch only. I would keep tons of files just in a folder then transfer them to my K1 when I wanted them.
If you scroll to the bottom of this manual, all the sysex detailswww.kawaius-tsd.com/OM/K_SYNTH/K1WAVE~1.PDF look for the ones that say "one single data" and "one multi data"
The hexidecimal thing for where you are sending the patch is a little different than how you explain it in the video:
A1-A8 is 00-07
B1-B2 is 08-09
B3-B8 is 0A-0F
C1-C8 is 10-17
D1-D2 is 18-19
D3-D8 is 1A-1F
Haven’t looked at the hexidecimal system for the lower case single banks or the multi patches yet but hope this helps!
Sir please help me, why free virsion not working pc
I don't know. What doesn't work?
@@demonicsweaters sir are you music teacher?
What is your country name sir?
How do I make piano sound on Kawai K1 ii? I recently got it, and I'm dumb around this stuff, so help is highly appreciated. Thank you.
well there's some piano patches out there, but none of them really sound much like a real piano
SYSEX versions of all K-1 factory sound banks. (Includes read me instructions and a SYSEX utility for PC). kawaius.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/K1.zip
is there a way to transfer midi files from a macbook air to a kawai x140 d keyboard?
there should be a way. I don't have a modern Mac to try it with, but I'm told that Wine will run on the newest Mac OS, and if it does you should be able to run midi-ox in Wine on mac, since it works fine in Linux. Or another option would be to find a program the runs natively on OSX that can send and receive sysex data. Something like this should do the trick www.macupdate.com/app/mac/28692/sysex-librarian
Thanks so much for making the effort to put this up I have a Kawai k4 that has lost all it sounds and I am guessing this would work for me to, I have not been looking forward to the task of rebuilding a library. Also EgoShredder I wish I could get in touch with you I am in uk also and Im sure you have a lot of knowledge you could pass on.
Awesome, yeah it seems like it should work on a K4 too. Good luck! Try sending a message to egoshredder or replying to one of his comments!
Hi bro, do you know if there is a similar way that I could save rhythms to my laptop that I created on my SR 16 drum machine? If I could, then I could probably load the same rhythms as styles to my yamaha keyboard.
There should be a way to export the midi files from the SR16. I have never personally owned one, but the first place I'd look would be the manual.
Hello. is it possible to make a video tutorial with roland fc 300 and korg pa 1000 compatibility? thank you very much.
Sorry, not really. I don't own either of those.
You mentioned that you created that "airyflute" sound. Did you make it on your computer and how did you make it compatible with your keyboard? Is there a software for doing that? Thanks
no, I made it right on the K1 then stored on the computer via sysex
I was hoping that there is a program that I could use to create new programs and combinations and then send them to my korg 01 Wfd via sysex. Thank you D S.
there are some more advanced sysex editors out there that do similar things, but I can't really tell you a specific product. I do know they exist though.
Hey @demonicsweaters can you plz help me out loading in the patches i just can't figure out why my k1 isn't receiving any of the sysex files I've tried my cable on other synths that works fine
Sorry back with another question, I'm getting back to music after a long hiatus. You mention a usb to midi lead. Can you just use this for data transfer to the synth, no midi interface or expanded soundcard or anything?. If so is there a particular input on the computer you use or just any usb slot. I'm going to be using a windows pc. Thanks for any help you can give.
+mathew smith yeah well the USB to midi cable is actually a midi interface. All computers have midi support, Linux, Mac, and Windows. Just make sure the cable is compatible with your OS. Most of them out there will work in Linux and Windows. Mac can be a little more picky.
thanks dude, I moan about computors and the net but there are soome nice helpful people in the alternative universe.
glad you found it helpful
Hello, you for this instruction! Is there a chance to get your patches. Dropbox link is dead
I'm so sorry, but I no longer have the sysex files. I got rid of the K1 unfortunately. If I get a new one, I'll repost the patches.
Hi, This is my problem i would like some help with. I have 12 whole patch sets which i downloaded. I like a few sounds from each patch but how do i isolate a sound to load them up individually. Obviously with a memory card you could save to it but without one how can i tell which data is the individual patch? Thanks
what midi cable are u talking about you said you bought one on ebay did u buy a usb to midi and for what ???? cant you do this with a audio interface
It's just a simple USB Midi cable amzn.to/3TD4crG. If your audio interface has midi i/o and you have standard midi cables then yes.
Hi, thank you for this tutorial. Could I ask, I have followed the instructionsin your video, and it states that the midi has gone through but there are no changes to my sounds. I am using windows 10, I am not sure whether that makes a difference.
Thank you
is the K1 set to receive midi? Did you change the buffer settings as I suggested in the video?
Yes, I changed the buffer settings, however I do not have Linex. When you say is the K1 able to receive midi, I went into the system settings and changed the midi exclusive to on.
@@nsera9462 hmmm, I'm not sure then. I've never tried it on Windows 10, but I will and see what I can find out.
Thank you. I have tried it again and no success.
Thank you for this video my internal battery died on my k1m so I will need to reload my factory patches after I replace the battery and install a battery holder to make my life a bit easier next time the battery needs replacement. would amidi work for sending sysx to the synth? I dont have a midi cable that works with my current windows computer but my stupidly slow linux box works just fine with the various command line midi tools and my old joystick port based midi cable. I do not even have xorg currently installed on the system I control the linux box purely via ssh.
Trekeyus yay just tested it and it worked just fine now all I need to do is replace that darn battery. ps for those wondering "amidi -p hw:1 -s K1INT.SYX" amidi expects hw:numbers vs other apps such as aplaymidi witch expects 20:0 Im so happy to have brought my synth back to life. still going to install midiox thouhg on my windows system foe easy editing of syx files.
wow, that's awesome! Glad you got it to work!
Please help a Kawai K4 user.
I have tried midiox but can't seem to get it happening. Nothing changes after i "send sysex" to the Kawai K4. I am running windows 10 to an RME Babyface Pro with midi going out of port one into a Kawai K4 on midi channel 3. Have followed the video "Transfer Patches To Kawai K1 Using Midi-OX " any help would be greatly appreciated cheers x
hola y con alguna targeta ram se puede cargar los sonidos tengo el cable midi usb y los sonidos y no se como se hace que programa se usa y como se hace para poner el mismo canal asi queda la misma frecuencia
hmmm, I don't quite understand the translation of this question.
It worked! But I only get the first part of card
Not the second small a or multi parts..?
How do you access the smaller a?
hola tengo un modulo kawai k1r se me borraron los sonidos queria preguntarle como se hace para cargarle los sonidos y si se le puede poner del kawai k4 k11
jorge daniel Villagra Hi. You can use the method above to get the patches back into the K1. You'll need to find the patch sysex files online somewhere, just try to do some googling and you'll probably find them. You can't put K4 or K11 patches on the K1, they won't work.
Hope that helps.
Hi Demonic Sweaters thank you so much for this video. This is exactly what I want to do on my Korg 01Wfd. Can I use the patches that are being sold on dvd's? I found a dvd on ebay that has the M1 sounds and I really wanted the famous M1 piano sound on my 01 Wfd. I guess I need to load the patches first to my computer and take it from there. Any advice you give will be appreciated.
Yeah, that's exactly what I did with the K1, I got this patch bank from ebay and was successfully able to transfer them with MIDI Ox. As long as the O1Wfd can receive sysex data, you should be able to do it. I would start out with the same buffer settings I suggested for the K1, since the 01W is from around the same time period. But you're going to need to find the midi specifications in the manual to determine the specific info you would need to change to write to certain patch banks etc... It should be totally possible though.
Thanks so much for your response Demonic Sweaters. I am going to try. This could get very interesting.
Let me know how it works out!
I will do. Thank you once again
Hi Demonic Sweaters, I tried loading on the Korg M1 Patches to my 01W , from a dvd I bought off ebay and even though I can see numbers changing on my 01W, no M1 patches are actually loaded on to the 01W. I wonder if there is something I am not doing rght. I can also see added hexadecimals to my laptop when I sent patches from the 01W, so I assume that the midi dump function is working. Any ideas?
Work on windows 10? my pc tells me it consumes too much memory hp desktop with 16 gb ram...
it should work fine
@@demonicsweaters ok thank you.
I will try again, thanks again for your tutorial.
friend, you can upload video of how to reset the factory or how to install a bank or sysex sound to the kawai k4 ... I would really appreciate it because my sounds were erased and I only have 1 in single and 1 in multi
Well, I don't have a K4, or I would. But I would imagine the same technique would work. Find the original sysex data online, then use midiox to transfer it to the synth. Make sure your internal battery is good.
@@demonicsweaters ok, thanks for your answer ... regards
Hi DS! I followed your steps in Midi-Ox but what settings do I need to apply on the K-1 itself? I set INT PROTECT to OFF and RCV EXCL to ON, but alas the internal patches are not updating. Do you remember if you have to be in a certain menu or anything on the K-1 to receive Sysex?
Hi, I no longer have my K1, but obviously you will want to disable protection and allow it to receive sysex data. This information is in the K1 manual. Thanks for watching!
I also use MIDI-OX and it works perfectly, BUT I had to adjust the Sys Exc input and output buffer sizes to 1024 and 128 (the default is 256 and 32); I also doubled the output timing buffers to 120ms (default is 60). I have to do this otherwise the data does not all get through to the K1 successfully, e.g. some patches or even whole banks can be missing. It's in the settings on this page vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/ion-micron/images/c/c2/MidiOx_4.png/revision/latest?cb=20110911182224
@@EgoShredder hey is 1024 for the low level input buffers or the low level output buffers?
@@jaygeedeepbro Without going into my studio and checking, I forget exactly which way around it is. You will not do any harm by trying both ways though, you either get a successful syx exc dump or not. Other than that just make sure you are sending and receiving on the same MIDI channel in the K1 and computer interface settings.
Another method that is easy, is to convert the syx files into MIDI files and then import, open and play in your DAW sequencer to your Kawai K1. Make sure to keep the song tempo slow, e.g. 80 bpm to avoid any data loss. I looked just now and saw a simple free software program to do this, callled Sysex to Text which does three different formats.
hi, thanks for the video. just want to ask how can I load the default patches from my computer to kawai k1 ii? I tried everything you've said but still unsuccessful. I just recently got my kawai k1 ii but the default patches are missing except one (organ). thanks in advance for your help.
hi demonic sweaters,
i am having problems transferring the sysex files. can you help me.?
Hello, how I do I tune the kawai k1
what I have in a higher tone
Thank you
+Maxi Medina I'm sorry, but I don't understand your question.
hola
quiero saber si me podes ayudar para afinar el kawai k1
no se afinarlo en 440
press the system key until you see "tune" then use the joystick to adjust or the plus and minus keys. This lets you fine tune the whole keyboard. If you want to transpose by whole values, select "transpose" hope that helps!
Muchas muchas gracias!!!!
Hola, necesito tu ayuda urgentee.
hice un reset del kawai k-1, y perdi todos los sonidos, y no puedo hacer lo que explicas en este video.
como debe estar configurado el kawai para que reciba los datos?
porque hago todo los pasos que mostras, pero en el kawai, jamas aparece.
Hello, it's possible to refresh the dropbox page of patches it's dead.
Thank you very much
Dear Mr. Sweaters,
I've been trying to send a SysEx patch (A105) from the Kawai Website for months now. I followed your videos instructions to the 'T" and nothing every happens to my Kawai K1 II, still has the same old boring sounds from factory (A200). I contacted Kawai and they told me to use a DAW program like Anvil Studio but I cannot figure out how to even begin to send MIDI files to keyboard with that program compared to MIDI-OX or Bome SendSX. I am running an HP TouchSmart with Windows 7 Basic. Do you have any other suggestions? I am just dying over here trying to get these cool ass sounds on my humble little old synth. Much appreciate your input. Thanks..
hmmm, I really don't know. Maybe it's a windows 7 basic problem? I don't have my K1 anymore to test anything else. Just make sure your K1 is set to receive midi sysex. Also make sure the sysex data is compatable with the k1.
Hey of anyone could help me, but im havin troubles when i want to transfer the patches, nothing happens, i put all the settings that the manual specifies but nothing happens, and when i want to dump files the same thing, nothing happens, the dude i bought the kawai from modified the sounds to a very strange sound, maybe for a church or something i want to change them so badly, plz help me out
Greetings. You are pretty well trained on this stuff. I just loaded some 3rd party sounds with midi ox to my K1m and need the original sounds but cant find them. Is there a link for them somewhere?
Appreciate and help.
Can I transfer Farfisa VIP sounds to my Kawaii K-1?
No, sysex doesn't work that way. It stands for System Exclusive. This means that only data from the specific device will work.
Hi demonic sweaters, Do you think you could reupload your K1 patches? I'd love to check them out, but the dropbox link is dead.
I'm sorry, I no longer have my K1. I'm sure they're online somewhere. Just google it.
Thank you!
Hahah! HI JUSTIN! Its Ryan Hand. I just changed the battery in my Kawaii K1 and was looking for a factory reset code and your face popped up. Hope all is well bud.
haha, nice. Good luck with it!
Does it works for synthesia?
My battery died. I tried this solution step by step as you said and still have only PC-SPEAKER like sounds. I'm sending syx - progress bar increases - and nothing is changed. I have Ebay style interface too . I think is working ok - i can see .pressed keyboard buttons on my notebook screen.
Besides, i still don't know what is this "syx" file? Is this some kind of RAW data or only configuration file?
I tried to download data from synthesizer - all instruments have lenght of 7 bytes...
I don't know what to do next.
okay, well it sounds like the interface is working. Did you go in and change the buffer settings in midi ox like I said in the video? Also, there is a setting within the K1 that I forgot to mention that enables it to receive midi data. Look at the manual in the midi chapter around page 40 www.vintagesynth.com/manuals/K1Synth.pdf to see how to enable it to receive data. Sysex stands for "system exclusive data" and can be any type of data the synth contains. Some synths can send patches, banks and settings all via sysex, the k1 can send and receive pretty much everything, you just change what is actually being sent by the different numbers entered in the hex values. All of that info is in the wave list that is linked in the description. Don't give up on it, you're close it sounds!
+demonic sweaters I'm confusing after 1000 times triying to upload something. Maybe i'm doing some stupid mistake or it's hardware failure. Comunications works well in both ways and nothing is changed. Hmmm... Greeting from Poland.
I know it's a long shot but did you ever fix this? Mine has the same problem; nothing but a buzzing sound.
classic version of X-windows :)
Almark yep, and windowmaker as the window manager ;)
looks like 1998 redhat, NeXt windows :)
Great tip, do you know how to send midi files/sequences (not sysex) with midiox? I have a Roland MC-307 that needs an OS upgrade.
Diablo Roberto, well if you're trying to upgrade the OS, it would most likely be with sysex, not a midi sequence. MIDI OX does not send Sequences. You would need just a regular MIDI sequencer for that.
I just want to add that I live in England (UK) and my K1r rack module came with a totally different factory preset list, to the one on the Kawai USA website. It has taken me a couple of years to hunt down and find the right presets for my UK / EU model.
Anyone interested in downloading this can find it here; the file is named "1308.syx" - www.sysexdb.com/synth_detail.aspx?dv=39
The cardboard preset list that came with mine looks like this - i1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii524/Ego_Shredder/Kawai%20K1r/Kawai%20K1%20-%20Presets%20web_zpslyhtyfjw.jpg
A word of warning; I also use MIDI-OX and it works perfectly, BUT I had to adjust the Sys Exc input and output buffer sizes to 1024 and 128 (the default is 256 and 32); I also doubled the output timing buffers to 120ms (default is 60). I have to do this otherwise the data does not all get through to the K1 successfully, e.g. some patches or even whole banks can be missing.
oh really? I didn't know that about the UK version. Pretty cool! I mention in the vid as well about changing the buffer sizes too. I had to change mine as well.
Ooops I somehow missed that in your video, probably due to watching different browser tabs at the same time! (bad habit). When I did this I kept increasing the buffers until it finally worked. The default settings caused an entire bank to not be received. The settings you used still caused a few individual presets to not get through. Finally the buffer sizes I used worked.
I wonder if it may also have something to do with the computer and midi interface used? Also, maybe there's a speed difference between the K1 and the K1ii, m, r, etc... just speculating here, but it could be. The settings in my vid always seemed to work for me. I don't have my k1s anymore unfortunately, but have been building a pretty great K1 soundfont which you can hear in a couple of my latest vids.
The K1 is of the generation of MIDI that was much slower CPU-wise. My computer interface is the best on the market, the Edirol UM-880 which keep rising in price on Ebay every year, although they were discontinued in 2003 I think. I've also got a Roland Super MPU64 and my main audio interface is an Roland UA-101.
My music computer is an IBM Thinkpad Z61p (Core2 Duo T7600, 3GB RAM, 500GB SSD, Win XP Pro x86). I deliberately got a Thinkpad because they wipe the floor with any other brand and equivalent spec model, and are more compatible, trouble free and customisable. I run a 50 / 50 split of rackmount hardware and VST plugins, and most of the rack has a VST type GUI interface inside Cubase, using Yamaha Studio Connections.
I'll have to check out your K1 soundfont sample banks! Sampling is something I never bothered to get into, although I once tried to use an automated solution called SampleRobot made by Skylife I think. Even though I used a really simple synth to clone, it just did not sound or play right so it obviously needed a lot more user input or something.
thanks!!
glad to help!
Sir i am bangali, please make this tiutorial hindi or bangali language
Sorry, I don't speak those languages
@@demonicsweaters sir please help me, how to tone backup spd20 to mobile or computer
Can anyone confirm that first letter should blink while receiving sysex? My K1 can receive command (playing on keyboard) from PC and then first letter becoming black. But when i try to receive sysex nothing is happening on the display. K1 it seems to ignore ONLY sysex files??? What the hell is going on? I see that i'm not the one and only with that issue.
Some cheap midi USB interfaces filter the exclusive sysex messages
@@pkillor I am already solved that problem. It was communication speed issue.