Also, for clarity, I have him labeled as a "Villian" due to how he chose to change sides, not only because of the side he chose. After going AWOL and stealing a plane of his home country in a traitorous manner, that is the methodology of a "Villian" to me. Not because he was on the Axis side, but because he was a traitor to the nation that he was native to and enlisted in.
I think you mean that he was traitor to the nation he was serving. In terms of nativity, being of Italian and German ancestry he had the justifications by blood to fight with his brothers
I look at it this way. How would YOU feel if some girl’s older brother beat you up because you didn’t want to date her. Would you say he was being loyal to his sister… or a real a$$hole?
As someone who has followed many war stories of WWII, especially ones relating to aviation, I'm happy to find you have uncovered some that evaded me. Both this one and the White Lilly are brilliant examples. Thank you for your service to history!
This story is of personal interest and have seen it before. My dad was in the service squadron that was located near Naples from which this guy stole the P-38.
To think this guy was a year younger than me when he did this…wow. He was a kid who kind of knew better but let his stupidity get the better of him probably only because he liked the adrenaline rush…
A great man and an ace. I haven´t heard of this amazing man until now. There actually existed heroes from USA, but he was one of the very few. Long Live Martin James Monti!
What most people don't know is that both AH and BM introduced a lot of benifits for the middle class. That even today the usa doesn't have. At the time the german people had many advantages over other countries. It would be easyto see whypeople would change sides. Don't get me wrong, I am a big supporter of the US constitution and believe that it keeping the rest of the worldat bay
@@hansgruber650Excuse me, but WTF are you talking about? Are you talking about how the USA propped up the Bolsheviks during ww2 with untold billions and billions of dollars worth of military equipment and supplies.
I am Greek who says that if was bourned in US i would be American?My blood is Greek,it does not mutter the Country i would be bourned.He was no traitor he was a brave man who loved his nation.Native American because he was bourned in US?
I was a United States citicen when I came here from Puerto Rico, but I became a north american when I have toiled with the real people of this country for the last 50 years, since the viet nam conflict. Unlike Obama he is a citicen of the USA. but never an American because he grew up in Kenya and was actually born in Hawaii that don't make him an American!!
He was lucky he was an American and caught after the war. The British didn't mess around with traitors. They would get a fast ride to the nearest prison with a gallows.
Ironic, since Pct. Eddie Slovak was executed for simply running from battle. Luck of the draw. Had he been posted to the Pacific theater he might have returned home a hero.
He was lucky to avoid the death penalty. Ten years is a small price to pay when so many others were executed during and after the war for lesser offenses.
That was extremely interesting, however as a war fighter myself, this guy was a excellent lier and had taken a oath, pledge as a officer, that meant nothing to him. There's no telling, the lives lost and confusing created by him. Good video and the Fog of war.
My mother hated Father Coughlin. Seeing this Nazi sympathizer was a big fan reinforces my confidence that I was taught right from wrong by somebody who knew the difference.
Well, the Germans must have noticed that the P-38 was not diving fast and shooting its machine guns, but rather, the P-38 was slowly descending with the landing gear extended for a landing! So, come right ahead!
He just tried to join german nazis because he thought that the germans would had win the war! as time goes by he witnessed the germans are going to loss and surrendered he's change side again hahaha twist read!
Wow information can really help person like me I am follower of ww2 history and I never heard of this man or American pilot doing this , what I can say America is country good at covering them tracks of atrocities in wars around the world.
No we called them heros!!!!. I am part German but the Nazi empire was very evil. It HAD TO BE DESTROYED!!!!! My Dad was in WW2. He lost a lot of friends!!! They should of killed him!!!!!! GOOD FOR THE FBI!!!!!! I cannot believe that they did not KILLED HIM!!!!!!
@@worldchampion8888 NAZIs we sick but Allied were not much better. You being part German does not mean you are right. Also pilots were soldiers and not politicians. German pilots were trying to stop the bombardment of their cities.
@@jacobjonm0511 The Allies were ALOT better. That is why we had the Russians, British,Canadian,Australias, Greeks, Turks, Mexicans,Chineses,and other countries on our side. THE NAZI MACHINE HAS TO BE DESTROYED COMPLETELY!!!!!!. And YES I AM RIGHT!!!!
I look at it this way. How would YOU feel if some girl’s older brother beat you up because you didn’t want to date her. Would you say he was being loyal to his sister… or a real a$$hole?
He took an oath with the side he was on to begin with. In today's economy the oath means nothing as the governing elite do not understand covenants. The fact is that he was not unlike a modern political player who do not take the oath seriously and most are getting away with treasonous acts that will eventually put this nation of America in bondage. In your economy if you really believe what you write here, I wouldn't trust you out of sight, certainly not in a military unit.
@Enigma Wyoming I think ya can't compaire that . I'm a Jerry with a Dad from North George . I seved in the Bundeswehr but knowing i would never ever raise arms against the US .In case a war like this would happen again i can't see a solution for me .
@@samkangal8428 Did you ever take the oath of a soldier, sailor or marine? Do you KNOW what that means? You can believe in a whole lot of things but if you take an oath you are obligated to perform under that covenant. Lots of people today believe that they are doing the right thing but betraying their oath to served, look at the foundational demoncrate party and you can see the godlessness right in front of you.
@@darthracer777 True but ineffective. Fascism is the spearhead in the war against communism while also fighting the soul-corrupting properties of capitalism.
@@nilz5909 I don't think you understand fascism, or for that matter communism either. Fascism is not 'the spearhead in the war against communism' - far from it. It is an affront to democracy that seeks to roll back 2000 years of history for the enrichment of a small minority. It manipulates people by creating false enemies, like 'commies', 'immigrants', 'vagrants', 'colourds', 'jews', 'muslims'. It distracts people from the inevitable economic woes of their rule with these straw men, encouraging civil unrest and international wars. Sound familiar?
Perhaps he was just a very intelligent and perspicacious gentleman who could discern the real villains of WWII. Perhaps he wondered why on Earth his fellow Americans were fighting alongside the Bolsheviks, who had committed genocidal murder of tens of millions of innocents in Russia and Ukraine before the war. Perhaps he saw through all the wartime propaganda and decided that he wanted to fight with the good guys.
We was fighting alongside the Russian we join forces to defeat a common enemy Germany or Hitler, that cost Patton his life, He didn't trusted or liked the Russians he wanted to continue fighting the Russians after the war ended
Also, for clarity, I have him labeled as a "Villian" due to how he chose to change sides, not only because of the side he chose. After going AWOL and stealing a plane of his home country in a traitorous manner, that is the methodology of a "Villian" to me. Not because he was on the Axis side, but because he was a traitor to the nation that he was native to and enlisted in.
Well, you can be anti-communist and anti-fascist.
I think you mean that he was traitor to the nation he was serving. In terms of nativity, being of Italian and German ancestry he had the justifications by blood to fight with his brothers
Well , it's your choice of words.....chose them carefully.
How about 'a person of questionable allegiance'
Edit: *o
Naaah. He was a turd.
I look at it this way. How would YOU feel if some girl’s older brother beat you up because you didn’t want to date her. Would you say he was being loyal to his sister… or a real a$$hole?
He certainly got off easy, as TREASON during war time is punishable by death.
AND THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIS FATE
Treason during any time is punishable by death.
@@Gun_Talk RIGHT !!!
As someone who has followed many war stories of WWII, especially ones relating to aviation, I'm happy to find you have uncovered some that evaded me. Both this one and the White Lilly are brilliant examples. Thank you for your service to history!
Oh how quickly we forget hasn’t even been a hundred years and we have already forgotten what was right and what was wrong
This story is of personal interest and have seen it before. My dad was in the service squadron that was located near Naples from which this guy stole the P-38.
Wow, this guy got off easy! I expected this to end with a firing squad.
Treason: currently only wrong when perpetrated by individual citizens, not governments against citizens.
wtf does that mean lmao
Being a hero or a traitor actually depends on who wins the war in the end.
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
To think this guy was a year younger than me when he did this…wow.
He was a kid who kind of knew better but let his stupidity get the better of him probably only because he liked the adrenaline rush…
Great video!
‘Conversate’ is not a word
Thanks mom
And I’m sure with the meticulous record keeping by the Germans it probably wasn’t hard to track the Aircrafts history
Young people are so easily brain washed by adults. "Join the Axis !? yes, become a modern Legionary.."
must have been a Italian
Back then, the FBI had to to a little bit more than simply look through your twitter account.
Conversate?
Really?
You might want to thinkify about your usingness of that word.
I shall not.
A great man and an ace. I haven´t heard of this amazing man until now. There actually existed heroes from USA, but he was one of the very few. Long Live Martin James Monti!
Everything being relative.............if it was a German pilot gone over to the Americans .....he would be a HERO !
History is written by the victors. That's how it's always been.
Plenty of Luftwaffe defected to the British, disenchanted with the Nazi regime. Some of them brought the latest German night fighter radar technology.
Well that and the Nazis were you know uhhhhhhh not the best of humans sooooo yeah
Bravo . He Is A hero in fair ، Cavaliers And Gentlemans front
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Lol he's a traitor to the free world.
What most people don't know is that both AH and BM introduced a lot of benifits for the middle class. That even today the usa doesn't have. At the time the german people had many advantages over other countries. It would be easyto see whypeople would change sides. Don't get me wrong, I am a big supporter of the US constitution and believe that it keeping the rest of the worldat bay
and the good ole Brits executed Lord Ha Ha, and American citizen. All yard sticks don't necessarily have 36 inches..
He wanted to serve a better master!
Yeah one a whole lot better at mass murder and killing innocent civilians because of race religion or disabilities
He knew the war was a banker's war.
A true hero of the sky
But somehow he couldn't make a desicon ,he was loyal to no side .
@@samkangal8428 yeah his decision to go to the Axis side was heroic but was not willing to defend his actions after defeat. Half a hero I guess.
Yes ,he betrayed both sides .
Y’all are disgraces to the human race
@@joshuamanwell5514 On the contrary
He had integrity. And he didn't want to fight and die for the benefit of Bolshevism. He's a hero. Martin James Monti!
GFY.
You're just a fascist sympathizer. He's a traitor and was lucky enough to lie his way out of being shot.
And who supported Bolshevism in two wars, liberators?
@@hansgruber650Excuse me, but WTF are you talking about?
Are you talking about how the USA propped up the Bolsheviks during ww2 with untold billions and billions of dollars worth of military equipment and supplies.
@@saintadolf5639 You have no clue it appears, try reading, if you can'"t have someone research and read it to you, Dumkopf.
The smartest american of all time
I am Greek who says that if was bourned in US i would be American?My blood is Greek,it does not mutter the Country i would be bourned.He was no traitor he was a brave man who loved his nation.Native American because he was bourned in US?
I agree ,your no traitor when you fight for what you love ,but i woulden't call him brave.
I was a United States citicen when I came here from Puerto Rico, but I became a north american when I have toiled with the real people of this country for the last 50 years, since the viet nam conflict.
Unlike Obama he is a citicen of the USA. but never an American because he grew up in Kenya and was actually born in Hawaii that don't make him an American!!
He was lucky he was an American and caught after the war. The British didn't mess around with traitors. They would get a fast ride to the nearest prison with a gallows.
Ironic, since Pct. Eddie Slovak was executed for simply running from battle.
Luck of the draw. Had he been posted to the Pacific theater he might have returned home a hero.
Imagine what a wolf in sheepskin P38 could do in a formation of B17s...
Guido Rossi did that
Monti actually stole an F-5E photo-recon variant of the Lockheed Lightning. It had no armament.
He was lucky to avoid the death penalty. Ten years is a small price to pay when so many others were executed during and after the war for lesser offenses.
Just discovered your channel...keep it up! Good content for me... quick bite-sized pieces!!
Sounds like a true coward to me.
That was extremely interesting, however as a war fighter myself, this guy was a excellent lier and had taken a oath, pledge as a officer, that meant nothing to him. There's no telling, the lives lost and confusing created by him. Good video and the Fog of war.
I swear Martin Monty was my ex-father-in-law. He was a real bastard!
Really enjoy your content! Thank you for putting in the effort, it is greatly appreciated.
Benedict Arnold
Father Charles Coughlin pronounced his surname "KOG-lin."
My mother hated Father Coughlin. Seeing this Nazi sympathizer was a big fan reinforces my confidence that I was taught right from wrong by somebody who knew the difference.
@@ThatsMrPencilneck2U
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I never knew this one great video
Haven't been commenting and joining streams tj, but still, thank you for the content man
Blue2 P-38 Pacific Fighter Pilot interview:
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Well, the Germans must have noticed that the P-38 was not diving fast and shooting its machine guns, but rather, the P-38 was slowly descending with the landing gear extended for a landing! So, come right ahead!
He just tried to join german nazis because he thought that the germans would had win the war! as time goes by he witnessed the germans are going to loss and surrendered he's change side again hahaha twist read!
Never heard this story. It’s a bazaar story and seems unbelievable.
The author, Ezra Pound, also fled the US for Italy, where he supported Il Dice!
Teej, I love ur videos but conversate is not a word, it is converse.
conversate..no such word. it's 'converse'.
Nice video as always
Love tj3 vids. Been here sence 5k
Thanks!!
Maybe he found out the truth.
Great vídeo 👍🏻👍🏻
"conversate"?
Great..
“Conversate?” You mean “converse.”
Wow information can really help person like me I am follower of ww2 history and I never heard of this man or American pilot doing this , what I can say America is country good at covering them tracks of atrocities in wars around the world.
Sounds great! Great improvement... Nice to hear stories that happened out of the spotlight...thanks for all you do!
Any idea what's with the picture of him in uniform with both E5 (Sergeant) stripes and Captain's bars?
Maybe you can do an air battle or two involving "The Flying Tigers?"
Fair Enough:
If you mean what you say, we’ll await your similar condemnation of Herman Hess
Damn, what a fraud, fake, weak sauce traitor he was. Reminds me of what's going on today.
@Jerry Davis Nonkonforme Patrioten!!!
@Jerry Davis
Thank you for supporting President Biden!
He simply take off to Germany with a P 38 that no one attempt to shot them and ok ?
Very interesting story I have heard many stories like this from world war 2
So many strange and interesting stories from both wars
If Germany won the world would not be this dirty there would be law and order
Sure. Keep dreaming.
Neat story, thank you.
Interesting story.
First pod cast
He was a democrat.
Well done ✅
Looking back we would have been better off having Germany win.
I wonder if you call the Germans who defected to Allied as 'villain' too.
No we called them heros!!!!. I am part German but the Nazi empire was very evil. It HAD TO BE DESTROYED!!!!! My Dad was in WW2. He lost a lot of friends!!! They should of killed him!!!!!! GOOD FOR THE FBI!!!!!! I cannot believe that they did not KILLED HIM!!!!!!
@@worldchampion8888 Hero for which side though? someone who backstabs his comrade is not a hero.
@@jacobjonm0511 Wrong. You need to god back and reread what I have all ready written. It explains everything.
@@worldchampion8888 NAZIs we sick but Allied were not much better. You being part German does not mean you are right. Also pilots were soldiers and not politicians. German pilots were trying to stop the bombardment of their cities.
@@jacobjonm0511 The Allies were ALOT better. That is why we had the Russians, British,Canadian,Australias, Greeks, Turks, Mexicans,Chineses,and other countries on our side. THE NAZI MACHINE HAS TO BE DESTROYED COMPLETELY!!!!!!. And YES I AM RIGHT!!!!
Looking at the state of the US now, Im sure he didnt regret it lmao.
That’s dumb. The Nazis were evil.
@@keirfarnum6811 Yes yes, and global warming is real.
@@keirfarnum6811 That's what Hollywood has been telling us for 80 years.
Wow!!! We are a merciful people! Great video.
Ah yes, the American Wehraboo.
Hey you didn’t even tell us what his verdict or sentence was!!
Hey! I believe I said in there he was sentenced to 25 years after being found guilty of treason.
Jesus is Lord
"We were good but now we're bad"
I wish that wasn't as true as it is.
Sad to see how many people here think he went from bad to good how quick we forget
The Germans would have been happier receiving a P-51 or P-47 as they had no trouble against a P-38.
They had more than enough P47, P51 or P38 at the Luftwaffen Erprobungsstelle Rechlin.
How can you be a traitor when you fight for what you love ?
I look at it this way. How would YOU feel if some girl’s older brother beat you up because you didn’t want to date her. Would you say he was being loyal to his sister… or a real a$$hole?
He took an oath with the side he was on to begin with. In today's economy the oath means nothing as the governing elite do not understand covenants. The fact is that he was not unlike a modern political player who do not take the oath seriously and most are getting away with treasonous acts that will eventually put this nation of America in bondage. In your economy if you really believe what you write here, I wouldn't trust you out of sight, certainly not in a military unit.
@formerparatrooper 2
This guy was a coward .He betrayed the US ,and the Germans too .
I'm loyal to the things i believe in .
@Enigma Wyoming
I think ya can't compaire that .
I'm a Jerry with a Dad from North George .
I seved in the Bundeswehr but knowing i would never ever raise arms against the US .In case a war like this would happen again i can't see a solution for me .
@@samkangal8428 Did you ever take the oath of a soldier, sailor or marine? Do you KNOW what that means? You can believe in a whole lot of things but if you take an oath you are obligated to perform under that covenant. Lots of people today believe that they are doing the right thing but betraying their oath to served, look at the foundational demoncrate party and you can see the godlessness right in front of you.
Villain wtf makes him a villain ... 😡
The side he chose lost, that makes him the villain
You can be anti-communist and anti-fascist. It's not either or.
@@darthracer777 True but ineffective. Fascism is the spearhead in the war against communism while also fighting the soul-corrupting properties of capitalism.
@Redsand That's communism.
@@nilz5909 I don't think you understand fascism, or for that matter communism either. Fascism is not 'the spearhead in the war against communism' - far from it. It is an affront to democracy that seeks to roll back 2000 years of history for the enrichment of a small minority. It manipulates people by creating false enemies, like 'commies', 'immigrants', 'vagrants', 'colourds', 'jews', 'muslims'. It distracts people from the inevitable economic woes of their rule with these straw men, encouraging civil unrest and international wars.
Sound familiar?
Perhaps he was just a very intelligent and perspicacious gentleman who could discern the real villains of WWII. Perhaps he wondered why on Earth his fellow Americans were fighting alongside the Bolsheviks, who had committed genocidal murder of tens of millions of innocents in Russia and Ukraine before the war. Perhaps he saw through all the wartime propaganda and decided that he wanted to fight with the good guys.
Maybe ,but he cowardly left them in the lurch too.
We was fighting alongside the Russian we join forces to defeat a common enemy Germany or Hitler, that cost Patton his life, He didn't trusted or liked the Russians he wanted to continue fighting the Russians after the war ended
@ Bennito Gutirrez
Yes ,and Patton was damm right .
He was a traitor to the United States of America. The Bolsheviks weren’t great (as evidenced by the Cold War), but the Nazis were worse.
he never got a chance to vote for Trump.