Same, I also kind of feel a little scared of 2d with white eyes, it's cool cause he can change the color whenever he feels like it but uh, I feel scared looking and staring at white eyes, he's still cool though obviously
@@jasonr.134 he can't change his eyes when ever he feels like it. The black eyes accore from the damage of his back head, so if he trips on the back of it (as seen in humidity when Russel trips him at the end) or when someone hits his head hard (As seen in the MTVcribs vid with murdoc and the fizzy can) . They turn back to black, when there white it means there healing, but murdoc used to hit his head most of the time to keep his "zombie looking eyes"
@@lolno6665 Ah, I see, it's so confusing all these answers, some people get evidence from quizzes and others from actual music videos and other stuff that will make this comment too long
also another reason might be cause murdoc is a compulsive liar, and if he gets called out on something that he’s done he’ll attempt to cover it up, but yeah, kevin bishop still doesn’t get his character kajdkdkek
In all honesty, I thought 2-D was just lying about his accident because Murdoc was sitting there giving him the stank eye. Just my interpretation of Kevin's choice of words during the newer footage of Gorillaz.
Well its not the first inconsistency. In the Now Now interview, 2D says theymissed the package noodle was in and had to go to the post office to get it. But in the itunes interview, they said the box was at their door
THANK YOU!!!!! It was the g-shock interview where they said she was in a box for days. I was pretty confused about why they'd say 2-D had trouble with his passport and drivers license when (as far as i know) it's been a known fact that Noodle showed up in a box at their door the day they posted the listing. The inconsistencies make my brain spaz out.
Being honest, when I watched this, I automatically assumed it was a cover up story, cause in other live interviews they actually mention him being hit by the car. Almost like, "This is easier to explain than how this man beside me that I've worked with for decades now hit me with a car twice to knock both of my eyes black" Just my opinion though!
Fawndest Memories Yeah, but this was their FIRST interview. When they mentioned he was hit by a car, that was later. Probably meaning Phil or someone else informed Kevin on what happened. And the way Kevin says "Formaldehyde" (which is no where close to his condition, it would've made more sense for him to go along with the common misconception, that he has no eyeballs at all.) And not only that, but Kevin has said some kinda ooc stuff before too. But maybe I'm just too critical. If /you/ enjoy Kevin's performance, that's chill tho. C:
I mean, I do prefer Nelson's LOL It was much more squeaky and ridiculous and just all around precious, but, I was just putting out my 2 cents. c: The best we can hope for, if he's going to be the permanent voice actor, is that he gets more educated and becomes more natural at playing him.
Fawndest Memories as I mentioned to someone else, it's possible it was him in Saturnz Barz, as a lot of fans agree as well. So my theory is that Kevin's only doing the live interviews. So we can only hope that Nelson returns to the show and other MVs. 💖
I miss Nelson :( I think they hired Kevin bc they wanted 2D to sound older? I think? At first I thought it was only for the mo cap interviews but no, he's gonna do the tv show too :(
Honeymoon Hoe if he does the TV show, I'm gonna be very angry and I'm not sure if I can watch the show without feeling angry. But I do disagree, unless there's legit news that Kevin's gonna do the show I'm not sure if Kevin is going to do the show or not, just because fans have argued that it's Nelson's voice in Saturnz Barz, but honestly? I can't tell, just because 2D doesn't speak enough lines in that MV..... But he may sound different from Kevin? Anyways, I do have my own theories for why Kevin has been doing the live interviews, but I don't want this to be a mile long comment. xD I just hope that Nelson returns.
Snipsy Snips I read that Kevin was credited on his wiki for voicing 2d in the gorillaz show. But now I checked and it’s been removed so idk :\ & personally I think Nelson voiced 2D in Saturnz barz bc, even tho he only had a few lines, it sounded like 2D’s old voice. I miss 2D’s old voice so much tho. It was cute and pitchy but I’ll settle for the new voice I guess
Honeymoon Hoe I only notice Kevin doing the live interviews right now. Kevin being credited for show is probably misinformation, considering there's very little information about the show. I'm just hoping Nelson will do it, like I'll settle, but I'll be bitter about it! And totally, as I said in this video, er... The description of this, you can DEFINITELY tell the difference, Nelson's voice was cuter, pitchy, and just sounded more lively than Kevin's.
I heard it's because Nelson couldn't stay in character and do the voice as easily or for as long of periods as Kevin, which now that Gorillaz are able to do interviews live, they need someone who can stick to the voice Jamie and Damon think 2-D should actually have. I will say though, Kevin's 2-D has a great Essex accent so it really works
I agree, and imo the biggest problem is that the actual voice isn't bad at all but he can never bring the life de freitas brought to the character. He was just an amazing actor, willingly replacing him for any reason would be (was?) just a mistake. Another huge hang up for me is that bishop seems to have lessened up on 2-D's strong cockney accent, which is a major part of his character (for me at least). Like in the recent interviews 2-D says "think" while in the past I can remember him always saying "fink"... I don't think many people notice but it bothers me so much haha...
Ethan Wheat thin Oh my god I thought I was the only one who noticed that. Kinda bothers me, his little accent was adorable and such a small thing does make a difference.
What I think is that Murdoc probably told 2D to lie about what happened so Murdoc wouldn’t get in trouble. Just look at his face at 0:05 Kinda like the face of “Don’t do it or you’ll be sorry.” Edit: and then Murdoc says “see?” Like he was glad he thought of something
(Great Plastic Beach compilation, Just wanna say. Made me smile and laugh) Kevin's voice is certainly a different take on 2D with less quirks and a sadder tone than the more cartoonish and goofball 2D of the past, but I have come to really like his voice too, for different reasons and his voice and improv still very much reflects a lot of what I feel to be 2D's personality. Just a different take. As for the inconsistencies and lore confusion in the interviews, it could very well be that Kevin has not been informed as he should be. I would like to think that, being the new voice actor of such a well-established character-- he would know at least the basics of the lore. When I first watched these live interviews I felt like it was a coverup. Murdoc is right there after all and with the two of them getting along so much better than usual in this phase (almost in sync at times) and at SEVERAL points saying hilarious nonsense, it seemed fitting somehow (even though it was all improv) when 2D made up some different reason for his eyes being black and Murdoc was like "okay cool". It was incredibly specific too, if you think about it. Sort of like waaaaaay back in an older interview(Nelson) when 2D and Murdoc said 'no eyeballs' even though they both know he certainly does have eyeballs and all VA's were informed. Maybe it's a running joke? As for the Plastic Beach bit. I have no idea. That one was a shock. Again, 2D and Murdoc goofed around like children constantly in this phase and Kevin kept a lot of other things suspiciously straight with the lore and 2D's character in the same interviews. Didn't mean for this to be so long, sorry! >.
The way you're feeling is exactly how i feel. I'm glad I'm not the only one. And to tell you the truth. With the way they're portraying 2d right now. I feel betrayed.
Tomboy Sadie 2D has been portrayed horribly in this phase. While they all got it bad, I think 2D has it the worse. ESPECIALLY in interviews such as the AMAs. I too, feel betrayed.
Good thing is that nelson de freitas still works with damon albarn as a music helper, but not as a voice actor, so maybe we can get a comeback someday? it would be cool if he voiced again 2D for gorillaz netfilx movie but we'll see about it :)
Oh, thank God. I thought I was the only one who absolutely hated Kevin as 2D. He just doesn't get him down right... Nelson had that perfect balance that made him an outright cartoony caricature while still remaining a believable character. He had more personality. Kevin is just... flat and cardboard.
Great to know other people in the fandom feel this way to, I really wonder what made them hire a new voice actor? Aside from not being in character well, he does not have some of the quirks when talking that we all associate with 2D.
I just like to think that the more time passed from the event, the easier it is for 2D's half functioning brain to either forget what happened and make something up, or get confused and try to remember what actually happened. Or he just got bored from the interview and doesn't know what he's talking about.
Honestly I never really noticed how much I don't like Kevin as 2D... like I get it, maybe some things had to change but it would've been so much better if they made sure that Kevin knew the lore, even if it is pretty messy as is. I mean, I love the lore as much as the next person but sometimes it just doesn't make sense... but having someone who explained 2D's 8-ball fractures as something completely different did rub me the wrong way... Like I just want Nelson back as 2D because he understood the messy lore and he was also my favorite voice for 2D... Kevin's voice for 2D just sounds like a depressed middle-aged man.. which like yeah, that is _exactly_ who 2D is but I would enjoy it more if it was Nelson. I mean Nelson had the sassiness that I loved specifically from Plastic Beach.. and while Kevin does have sassiness it almost comes off as more stuck up than how 2D would only get sassy is he was pissed off enough.
does anyone know what happened to Nelson? like why he's been replaced and if he's coming back?? I just don't think it's really in Damon and Jamie's character to just replace someone so important to their character.
you do make a good point in the video, I do prefer Nelson over Bishop. But Im okay with the way Bishop voices 2D and I'm hoping that people will get used to it, too, even though it might take awhile. I am wondering about why in one of the motion interviews 2D said that the reason he has his black eyes is because he got something into his eyes, i find it very weird they would change the story like that; but I'm pretty sure it was just a one time thing. And I'm still looking forward to Bishop voicing more of 2D in the future and in the upcoming TV show (even though that's an unpopular opinion)
They didn't "change" the story, Kevin was just ignorant about the story and didn't know what else to say and had to improv it. Or, he forgot what happened. I really don't know what happened on that, but I still felt like he should've done more research on a character he knew he'd have to improv as. Anyways, I don't hate Kevin's work as 2D, but I don't love it either. I just... Tolerate it. And I'll tolerate it if he continues as 2D in phase 5. However, every time I hear Nelson's 2D, I will miss him a lot... But, it's okay if you'ree looking forward to it. (And who knows if the TV show is gonna be made).
Snipsy Snips I didn't mean they actually changed the story, what I meant was I thought he was reading a script, and In it they wrote a different reason for why 2D had black eyes. But I guess Bishop was doing improv in that interview (according to what you said) and came up with a made up reason for 2Ds eyes. And they're actually already in phase 5, and im positive they'll still be coming out with the TV show, just not this year
I'm pretty sure it was improv. Especially since there wouldn't be a script, as it was live and they were answering tweet questions. And I know they're in phase 5, what I meant is that if Kevin continues to voice 2D or not. Since I don't think we've heard 2D speak yet, that wasn't singing in this phase.(There's the possibility that Nelson can return, but probably just wishful thinking. :( ) As for the TV show, I wanna believe. But, they've been saying they'll make a TV show and or movie since practically the beginning. So, that's why I'm not even sure if they'll make one...
Snipsy Snips I know the deal with the TV show is that they decided that they would have more than just 10 episodes, which was originally scheduled, but decided to do more than that. Plus storyboards and scripts have to be written so I know it's going to be a long process. Though one thing I'm concerned about when it comes to the show is who is going to voice Noodle. We've only heard her speak once and that's in the Jaguar video, so finding a voice actor for her might be another thing that's keeping the show in development
Snipsy Snips Actually I think 2D was lying. He was uncomfortable with the question and made that quite clear so he fibbed. He obviously doesn't wanna talk about it. Also,even if he was ignorant it works. 2D has bad memory loss and trouble sleeping. He might have actually just forgotten himself. I think you're being really nitpicky.
I'm late to this video, but if they ever replaced Murdocs voice actor, there will be carnage. Is Kevin heightened the voice and made it a bit less dreary and flat, it might work better. Also being educated more on lore.
I did think it was a little out of character when 2D said Murdoc was being 'facetious and obnoxious', just didn't seem like something he'd say haha, but I don't mind Kevin's voice, the plot holes do bother me a bit but it's only cos I love the lore so much. Either way getting more interviews with the characters is great for me
Ok but like hear me out here... The inconsistencies kinda make sense at times. I feel like a story being told mainly by Murdoc and 2D would be inconsistent. Murdoc probably wouldn't be sober enough to clearly remember things, and if he was, would probably find it funny to fuck with interviewers anyway. 2D has brain damage and a drug addiction and I wouldn't be surprised if Murdoc gaslights him into believing things that aren't entirely true. And the only people to reliably back them up or debunk them are Noodle, who didn't speak English for a while, and Russel, who's possessed and probably missed a lot of shit because of that. And both of them weren't there for parts of it too. So, as unlikely as it is that it was written in purposely, the plot holes are kind of in character for them.
What if the 2d of this phase is not the real one, and is a Cyborg that Murdoc created because the real one is dead or just still doesnt forgive Murdoc for what he did to him on Plastic Beach, and maybe thats why he sounds diferent and has a new voice actor (sorry for bad English)
the formaldehyde thing made me depressed, kevin bishop seems like a nice person and all but he couldn't even be bothered to google 'gorillaz lore' before trying to improvise
The problem isn’t exactly Kevin Bishop (though some of it is). These interviews are scripted just like any other thing Gorillaz do and the real problem is the lead script writer Ed Caruana. He’s been active since 2016 and it’s incredibly clear that he’s never read Rise or the Ogre or has any clear history of the Gorillaz at the forefront of his mind. He doesn’t know the characters at all. In fact it’s so bad that fans on social media have forced him out of his platform and all his websites are either gone or password protected. He’s that bad. And fans have been trying to get him fired for a good 5 years now.
Honestly I just took 2D saying the eye thing as him just lying/exaggerating the truth cause sometimes they just like to twist the facts sometimes to be funny (like Murdoc does it alot and 2D has a tendency in the past to do it as well, but moreso him just being forgetful) and as for the Plastic Beach thing I saw it as moreso 2D just trying to move on from the past. He has said he just wants to move on from the past and is trying to just just on with life, so I saw that as a way of just accepting it as a casualty 🤷♀️
Well, that's silly. Changing out voice actors is a perfectly normal thing in the voice acting business. The problem is you need to fill the person in on what the history of that character is, and pick someone who can emote properly.
dang, you'd think when you get a job VA-ing a very popular character with a very devoted fanbase you'd do a bit of research to find out, at the VERY least, what happened to give him one of his most iconic characteristics. maybe he just forgot or something, and it is a live interview so maybe he just panicked, i dunno.
Ive seen people pointing out it may be a cover up story so they dont gotta retell it and all, but in other interviews with Kevin, somebody must've filled him in because he talks about the car then. Also, they've mentioned many things and then said "we've explained that somehwere else. go look." so Murdoc could've just said "and we told the whole story in one of our older interviews," and thats the end of that.
Wait does he Actually NOT HAVE EYES after the car, I though each accident gave him an 8 ball fracture so he has eyes they are just covered by blood....I'm confused
2D says they were fractured, correcting Murdoc. It's just that Murdoc is an ass, and thinks the idea of his eyes being knocked out sounds cooler. It's not like he's much of a detail man. XDD
My only guess is that he wasn't informed of the backstory, that they did not tell him anything about 2D other than he's nervous, a 'halfwit', and that he and Murdoc fights a lot. With the way he plays 2D, that's all I think he was told. However, somehow Kevin is /still/ able to portray 2D better than the reddit AMA writers can. (Considering that Kevin's 2D banters around with Murdoc, and isn't a complete idiot, like 2D is portrayed in the AMAs....At least, from what I noticed. I kinda stopped watching/reading all the interviews from this phase.)
Snipsy Snips I think they also said in an old Telekom post that Murdoc hits him less because he's drunk more now so that might actually be a pet of the story. If you can the G magazine is really cool, I thought the amas were too since they also had some pretty insightful moments 2D sometimes has but I get your point there The best Nelson and Phil interviews were the unscripted ones with the improv so I wish they did some more with Phil and Kevin although his accent needs work
Char10tti3 really? I personally hated the amas because actually... I thought they portrayed 2D's character even worse than Kevin Bishop did. This vid quickly shows everything I have a problem with Kevin, but I can go on and on about my problems with the 'written' interviews. Such as, 2D's character is horribly flanderized, it seems like the only character he has now is that he's an idiot, when his character used to be so much more. Almost everything his character says is a joke about his intelligence. It's to the point where it's nearly insulting. I know that 2D's always never been the smartest, but now he's just beyond dumb. (Examples being saying he's scared of whales because DRAGONS live them. Not only not knowing what Stockholm Syndrome is, but thinking it's a place from SWEDEN, saying the 'wildest' experience at a concert was when a girl threw her panties on stage and bring confused by it.... Even though 2D used to kinda vulgar (he appears on Demon Days with a hickey and there's a pic of him pinching his own nip), and he used to sleep with a lot of women. There's even more examples I can give off, but this is already getting long.) He's also very nice to Murdoc for seemingly no reason??? And I mean VERY nice. Such as putting up with Murdoc chasing him with a gun, going to a DIFFERENT COUNTRY to retrieve Murdoc's underwear, mentioned at least three times he admires Murdoc in some way. It makes zero sense for 2D to be THIS nice and tolerate to Murdoc, as in other phases except maybe phase 1, 2D is usually VERY nasty to Murdoc. He often isn't very obedient to Murdoc, unless Murdoc threatens him. And 2D has insulted Murdoc's bass playing, his vocals. He's called Murdoc multiple names, even saying that Murdoc could go die, in both phase 2 and 3 I believe? Not only that, but considering the trauma that 2D went through in Phase 3, he should hate Murdoc's guts. It's a surprise he's even in the band after all that. And sure, maybe it is that he developed Stockholm Syndrome. But, the Gorillaz app shows differently? As he's throwing DARTS at his photo in his room. Also his love for horror is forgotten about? I could be mistaken, but 2D had not mentioned a zombie or horror film in this phase. Which is very odd, as horror films used to be such a big part of 2D's character. It feels odd without him liking them. As for the G-Magazine, whilst I did enjoy it more so than the other interviews, it definitely had it's problems. It didn't do it as bad, but they said that 2D is getting an allowance from Murdoc, and is apparently doing chores... Which Murdoc makes him do. Maybe I'm just reading into too much, but on top making countless jokes on his intelligence, they're also treating him like a little kid? Which again, is a little insulting. Although I could say I did appreciate the mag for giving 2D SOME serious dialogue, instead of just stuff that sounds like "haha look at me I'm a moron". But the G-MAGAZINE had another phase 4 common problem, and that's making up whatever the hell they want to. Such as saying that the Spirit House is a house party that Murdoc took them to for a "party to end all parties"... But the music video did not show any ways how it's a party???? I thought they were gonna live there, at least for some time. Who sleeps, and bathes at a party? They didn't party in it like they did in Strobelite, so I felt they just pulled that out of their asses. Also, maybe I can forgive the interviews for bring nonsense. But the G-MAGAZINE being an actual MAGAZINE, they could've used the opportunity to give us a hint on what the story is gonna be. But they didn't, they wasted it with more nonsense. We don't know what this phase's story is, except the ~world is messed up~ and that's probably less of a story than phase 1 and 2. I just didn't see how the amas or the mag is insightful on his character, when it feels like bad fanfic catering to the fans, as he's a one dimensional idiot who's an innocent baby who can't do nothing wrong, not even to his own abuser.
Snipsy Snips if that was the case he could have just let Murdoc answer or been spacey like he didn't remember idk that wouldn't have been out of character
SnipsySnips i think that is how adults show love. Sometimes they throw darts at each other’s pictures, and sometimes they will travel countries just to get something for you. I think that’s love maybe
Er... I dont want to scare you Murdoc, but im locked in here with you. I do have a key somewhere but I can't find it. I've been watching you... sleeping and......you're quite.... beautiful...when youre quiet.
I don't like Kevins voice at all 😭 he kinda sounded good in phase 4, but in the other phases, he sounds way! Different, I like Nelsons act on 2d, cus he sounds natural and hes used to his character, and when he voiced 2d, he made him sound like how 2ds personality is brought out to be, but Kevins take on 2d sounds like he has a cold a really bad one 😭 and his voice is raspy especially on the Stuart podcast! 💀 and less with a speech impediment And more British sounding like how 2d used to sound
Not only is he completely unaware of the lore, he’s also an anti-mask black face humor actor. Idk why he was the choice when there were other options. And we still don’t know what happened to Nelson.
anty exactly like what are they doing at this point with his voice Damon would know much more about him plus 2d is older so an older voice would fit him then again a deeper voice would probably bother some of the fans
Have you guys ever heard Damon voice act?? I love him but I don't think he's a good voice actor. There's a reason for everything (except Bishop replacing Nelson)
But you should always! teach your voice actors about your characters personally and its backstory, It doesn't make sense why damon and Jamie didn't inform him about his character That hes going to play for a couple years!
While I do agree the newer actors and writers don’t really get the lore. I feel during the humanz interviews 2D intentionally lied about his eyes because in an earlier interview it mentioned how Murdoc kidnapped him and Murdoc didn’t like it very much. That’s my interpretation anyways.
The point of Gorillaz tho was that they were supposed to feel like a real band. This takes away from that immersion. Not to mention, a story isn't as good when it's inconsistent. Plus, it'll also confuse people on what's supposed to be canon in lore and what's not.
@@SnipsySnips It's a band that's trying to act like real people, there's plenty of plausible explanations why interviews don't line up with the series's lore on the basis that real people are imperfect and forgetful, a story trying to aim for "realistic" characters doesn't have to be perfect either. Tons of media franchises have inconsistent lore stuff going on with them so it's pretty much just bound to happen at some point. Imo Gorillaz gets a pass since it was the first (and currently only from what I've seen) to do the whole virtual band type thing so it's considered experimental and is allowed to fumble here and there.
Actually it wasn't pushed out it has a some effect of being pushed inward because when it is pushed inward he could cause a blood fracture and the blood will fill up the eye honestly I don't think murdoc cared when he was talking about it and I don't know what to say that's what I think and I don't think your I could be inside your skull it would have most likely popped or something
a n d y 28 I'm not sure what. However, the point I was making in this video is that 2D had some of his best moments at a fairgrounds. A fairgrounds is pretty much like a small, not as exciting theme park. And yet Kevin's 2D picked Plastic Beach over a fun theme park... Even though it's clear that 2D was traumatized by the events of Plastic Beach and he clearly hated it there. So it makes no sense for him to prefer the (Plastic) Beach over a theme park. It was simply again, Kevin's lack of Gorillaz knowledge, and simply picked the beach because he thought "oh, of course 2D would pick something that was from their album lolol."
Snipsy Snips Yeah I know that, clearly the new voice actor was not aware of the full story behind the albums, but I'm still confused since I'm from Costa Rica and I don't know what the Parque De Diversiones had to do with it lol
Basically in one of the advertisements for Humanz, 2D and Murdoc were doing a ‘This or That?’ style quiz where they’re given two options and have to pick which one they prefer. One of the questions was something like ‘amusement park or Plastic Beach?’ and everyone keeps getting triggered because Kevin’s 2D chose Plastic Beach (the OP of the video explained why pretty well I think). Parque de Diversiones is an amusement park, so they probably just used it as a visual? Sorry, I’m not really sure when or where it was mentioned.
Weepsy Going off of the inflection and diction and small body language the motion capture gives off, it feels more like Kevin was at least SOMEWHAT aware of the shit 2D actually went through and probably picked Plastic Beach because Murdoc was standing right there.
when murdoc says it "knocked his eyes out" he doesnt mean literally, he just means that went black so you cant tell if he has eyes. thats not an inconsistency thats just murdoc being dumb. and the reason 2d said he prefered plastic beach is cuz he had been manipulated so much that murdoc had once again convinced him that it was good for him, also by the end of plastic beach all the characters had had new developments, and plastic beach, while being horrible for 2d, was actually good for them all in the end. so neither of those are inconsistencys. also, 2d has had brain damage multiple times, his storys may be inconsistent cuz he forgets things, they have said that 2d has memory problems multiple times
The comments talk a lot about inconsistencies, which makes me wonder; does 2-D have eyes that are full of blood or are they knocked out because they say both. I don't get it.
In the original lore, from the Gorillaz Rise of The Ogre book/autobiography, it's confirmed they're full of blood. He specifically suffers from hyphema. I think it's mentioned in some interviews from phase 1 as well but I can't remember. Regardless, original lore wise, 2-D still has eyes. New lore has just forgotten about the previous facts lol.
2d with normal eyes makes me uncomfortable
Scares m e
yeah I'm scarred
Same, I also kind of feel a little scared of 2d with white eyes, it's cool cause he can change the color whenever he feels like it but uh, I feel scared looking and staring at white eyes, he's still cool though obviously
@@jasonr.134 he can't change his eyes when ever he feels like it. The black eyes accore from the damage of his back head, so if he trips on the back of it (as seen in humidity when Russel trips him at the end) or when someone hits his head hard (As seen in the MTVcribs vid with murdoc and the fizzy can) . They turn back to black, when there white it means there healing, but murdoc used to hit his head most of the time to keep his "zombie looking eyes"
@@lolno6665 Ah, I see, it's so confusing all these answers, some people get evidence from quizzes and others from actual music videos and other stuff that will make this comment too long
LMFAO Phil Corwell actually knowing the lore and Bishop doesn't but he goes along w it cause they're live
also another reason might be cause murdoc is a compulsive liar, and if he gets called out on something that he’s done he’ll attempt to cover it up, but yeah, kevin bishop still doesn’t get his character kajdkdkek
@@kechupp6965 even tho i made that comment 2 years ago im still in the fandom and my position still stands and I agree w u wholly
Dreaming phahaha
I mean 2D has some brain damage... Lets just say its that and thats why he tells random stuff :')
In all honesty, I thought 2-D was just lying about his accident because Murdoc was sitting there giving him the stank eye. Just my interpretation of Kevin's choice of words during the newer footage of Gorillaz.
Ya I choose to believe that 2D lied about his eyes because Murdoc told him not to talk about the accident
yeahhh, that’s what i was thinking
Well its not the first inconsistency. In the Now Now interview, 2D says theymissed the package noodle was in and had to go to the post office to get it. But in the itunes interview, they said the box was at their door
Don't you just love an inconsistent story?
In their book Rise of the Ogre they also stated that they found the box at the door
Yea and that it arrived moments after murdoc came off the phone with nme to place a job add for their new guitarist
THANK YOU!!!!! It was the g-shock interview where they said she was in a box for days. I was pretty confused about why they'd say 2-D had trouble with his passport and drivers license when (as far as i know) it's been a known fact that Noodle showed up in a box at their door the day they posted the listing. The inconsistencies make my brain spaz out.
New inconsistency. In a new Dazed interview 2-D's dad is apparently still alive even though he passed away before Phase 2.
I miss Nelson. I just wished they told Kevin the stuff about 2d in case they asked him stuff about it in the interview or anything like that
"Hopping from carriage to carriage, chatting up the local talent, these were *_T H E H A P P I E S T D A Y S O F 2 D ' S L I F E . "_*
Being honest, when I watched this, I automatically assumed it was a cover up story, cause in other live interviews they actually mention him being hit by the car. Almost like, "This is easier to explain than how this man beside me that I've worked with for decades now hit me with a car twice to knock both of my eyes black"
Just my opinion though!
Fawndest Memories Yeah, but this was their FIRST interview. When they mentioned he was hit by a car, that was later. Probably meaning Phil or someone else informed Kevin on what happened. And the way Kevin says "Formaldehyde" (which is no where close to his condition, it would've made more sense for him to go along with the common misconception, that he has no eyeballs at all.) And not only that, but Kevin has said some kinda ooc stuff before too.
But maybe I'm just too critical. If /you/ enjoy Kevin's performance, that's chill tho. C:
I mean, I do prefer Nelson's LOL It was much more squeaky and ridiculous and just all around precious, but, I was just putting out my 2 cents. c: The best we can hope for, if he's going to be the permanent voice actor, is that he gets more educated and becomes more natural at playing him.
Fawndest Memories as I mentioned to someone else, it's possible it was him in Saturnz Barz, as a lot of fans agree as well. So my theory is that Kevin's only doing the live interviews. So we can only hope that Nelson returns to the show and other MVs. 💖
Fawndest Memories That's honestly what I thought. It seemed kinda sketchy.
Fawndest Memories I also thought that he just said Plastic Beach because Murdoc forced him to😅
I get the impression they got Kevin because they figured they'd be doing so many live interviews they'd need someone with an improv background.
I miss Nelson :( I think they hired Kevin bc they wanted 2D to sound older? I think? At first I thought it was only for the mo cap interviews but no, he's gonna do the tv show too :(
Honeymoon Hoe if he does the TV show, I'm gonna be very angry and I'm not sure if I can watch the show without feeling angry. But I do disagree, unless there's legit news that Kevin's gonna do the show I'm not sure if Kevin is going to do the show or not, just because fans have argued that it's Nelson's voice in Saturnz Barz, but honestly? I can't tell, just because 2D doesn't speak enough lines in that MV..... But he may sound different from Kevin?
Anyways, I do have my own theories for why Kevin has been doing the live interviews, but I don't want this to be a mile long comment. xD I just hope that Nelson returns.
Snipsy Snips I read that Kevin was credited on his wiki for voicing 2d in the gorillaz show. But now I checked and it’s been removed so idk :\ & personally I think Nelson voiced 2D in Saturnz barz bc, even tho he only had a few lines, it sounded like 2D’s old voice. I miss 2D’s old voice so much tho. It was cute and pitchy but I’ll settle for the new voice I guess
Honeymoon Hoe I only notice Kevin doing the live interviews right now. Kevin being credited for show is probably misinformation, considering there's very little information about the show. I'm just hoping Nelson will do it, like I'll settle, but I'll be bitter about it!
And totally, as I said in this video, er... The description of this, you can DEFINITELY tell the difference, Nelson's voice was cuter, pitchy, and just sounded more lively than Kevin's.
I heard it's because Nelson couldn't stay in character and do the voice as easily or for as long of periods as Kevin, which now that Gorillaz are able to do interviews live, they need someone who can stick to the voice Jamie and Damon think 2-D should actually have. I will say though, Kevin's 2-D has a great Essex accent so it really works
it’s not his fault.
I agree, and imo the biggest problem is that the actual voice isn't bad at all but he can never bring the life de freitas brought to the character. He was just an amazing actor, willingly replacing him for any reason would be (was?) just a mistake.
Another huge hang up for me is that bishop seems to have lessened up on 2-D's strong cockney accent, which is a major part of his character (for me at least). Like in the recent interviews 2-D says "think" while in the past I can remember him always saying "fink"...
I don't think many people notice but it bothers me so much haha...
Ethan Wheat thin Oh my god I thought I was the only one who noticed that. Kinda bothers me, his little accent was adorable and such a small thing does make a difference.
It haunts me too
What I think is that Murdoc probably told 2D to lie about what happened so Murdoc wouldn’t get in trouble. Just look at his face at 0:05
Kinda like the face of “Don’t do it or you’ll be sorry.”
Edit: and then Murdoc says “see?” Like he was glad he thought of something
why would he do that,, he talked abt 2d's accident 4 times at least on interviews, including one of those they were in.
@@WormsSoupYum And is super proud of it too like he created some kind of God
(Great Plastic Beach compilation, Just wanna say. Made me smile and laugh) Kevin's voice is certainly a different take on 2D with less quirks and a sadder tone than the more cartoonish and goofball 2D of the past, but I have come to really like his voice too, for different reasons and his voice and improv still very much reflects a lot of what I feel to be 2D's personality. Just a different take.
As for the inconsistencies and lore confusion in the interviews, it could very well be that Kevin has not been informed as he should be. I would like to think that, being the new voice actor of such a well-established character-- he would know at least the basics of the lore. When I first watched these live interviews I felt like it was a coverup. Murdoc is right there after all and with the two of them getting along so much better than usual in this phase (almost in sync at times) and at SEVERAL points saying hilarious nonsense, it seemed fitting somehow (even though it was all improv) when 2D made up some different reason for his eyes being black and Murdoc was like "okay cool". It was incredibly specific too, if you think about it. Sort of like waaaaaay back in an older interview(Nelson) when 2D and Murdoc said 'no eyeballs' even though they both know he certainly does have eyeballs and all VA's were informed. Maybe it's a running joke?
As for the Plastic Beach bit. I have no idea. That one was a shock. Again, 2D and Murdoc goofed around like children constantly in this phase and Kevin kept a lot of other things suspiciously straight with the lore and 2D's character in the same interviews.
Didn't mean for this to be so long, sorry! >.
I think 2D was on a lot of drugs in Phase 4 & Murdoc was just happy that 2D actually like him from once.
The way you're feeling is exactly how i feel. I'm glad I'm not the only one. And to tell you the truth. With the way they're portraying 2d right now. I feel betrayed.
Tomboy Sadie 2D has been portrayed horribly in this phase. While they all got it bad, I think 2D has it the worse. ESPECIALLY in interviews such as the AMAs. I too, feel betrayed.
@@SnipsySnips 2 years late but I think 2d acting a bit older now he is 42
I like how the audio gets higher when the guys says *Happiest days of 2Ds life*
I like to think 2D literally can't remember too well since he is a bit slow
Good thing is that nelson de freitas still works with damon albarn as a music helper, but not as a voice actor, so maybe we can get a comeback someday? it would be cool if he voiced again 2D for gorillaz netfilx movie but we'll see about it :)
Its been 5 years but especially with the other stuff that's come to light I need kevin GONE
Oh, thank God. I thought I was the only one who absolutely hated Kevin as 2D. He just doesn't get him down right... Nelson had that perfect balance that made him an outright cartoony caricature while still remaining a believable character. He had more personality. Kevin is just... flat and cardboard.
They can just blame the inconsistency on 2D’s worsening memory from all his head injuries or something probably
Nelson will always be the best voice for 2-D. Kevin's voice doesn't work for mw
Great to know other people in the fandom feel this way to, I really wonder what made them hire a new voice actor? Aside from not being in character well, he does not have some of the quirks when talking that we all associate with 2D.
2 d's life on plastic beach in one word:hell
I just like to think that the more time passed from the event, the easier it is for 2D's half functioning brain to either forget what happened and make something up, or get confused and try to remember what actually happened. Or he just got bored from the interview and doesn't know what he's talking about.
Honestly I never really noticed how much I don't like Kevin as 2D... like I get it, maybe some things had to change but it would've been so much better if they made sure that Kevin knew the lore, even if it is pretty messy as is. I mean, I love the lore as much as the next person but sometimes it just doesn't make sense... but having someone who explained 2D's 8-ball fractures as something completely different did rub me the wrong way...
Like I just want Nelson back as 2D because he understood the messy lore and he was also my favorite voice for 2D... Kevin's voice for 2D just sounds like a depressed middle-aged man.. which like yeah, that is _exactly_ who 2D is but I would enjoy it more if it was Nelson. I mean Nelson had the sassiness that I loved specifically from Plastic Beach.. and while Kevin does have sassiness it almost comes off as more stuck up than how 2D would only get sassy is he was pissed off enough.
kevin bishop my behated
does anyone know what happened to Nelson? like why he's been replaced and if he's coming back?? I just don't think it's really in Damon and Jamie's character to just replace someone so important to their character.
NoodlesDoodles ikr
0:07 I think Murdoc’s eyes may have bin affected too, how come nobody’s got him
Any medical attention ;-;
I think I wheezed to loud when I read the title-
you do make a good point in the video, I do prefer Nelson over Bishop.
But Im okay with the way Bishop voices 2D and I'm hoping that people will get used to it, too, even though it might take awhile.
I am wondering about why in one of the motion interviews 2D said that the reason he has his black eyes is because he got something into his eyes, i find it very weird they would change the story like that; but I'm pretty sure it was just a one time thing.
And I'm still looking forward to Bishop voicing more of 2D in the future and in the upcoming TV show (even though that's an unpopular opinion)
They didn't "change" the story, Kevin was just ignorant about the story and didn't know what else to say and had to improv it. Or, he forgot what happened. I really don't know what happened on that, but I still felt like he should've done more research on a character he knew he'd have to improv as. Anyways, I don't hate Kevin's work as 2D, but I don't love it either. I just... Tolerate it. And I'll tolerate it if he continues as 2D in phase 5. However, every time I hear Nelson's 2D, I will miss him a lot... But, it's okay if you'ree looking forward to it. (And who knows if the TV show is gonna be made).
Snipsy Snips I didn't mean they actually changed the story, what I meant was I thought he was reading a script, and In it they wrote a different reason for why 2D had black eyes. But I guess Bishop was doing improv in that interview (according to what you said) and came up with a made up reason for 2Ds eyes.
And they're actually already in phase 5, and im positive they'll still be coming out with the TV show, just not this year
I'm pretty sure it was improv. Especially since there wouldn't be a script, as it was live and they were answering tweet questions. And I know they're in phase 5, what I meant is that if Kevin continues to voice 2D or not. Since I don't think we've heard 2D speak yet, that wasn't singing in this phase.(There's the possibility that Nelson can return, but probably just wishful thinking. :( ) As for the TV show, I wanna believe. But, they've been saying they'll make a TV show and or movie since practically the beginning. So, that's why I'm not even sure if they'll make one...
Snipsy Snips I know the deal with the TV show is that they decided that they would have more than just 10 episodes, which was originally scheduled, but decided to do more than that. Plus storyboards and scripts have to be written so I know it's going to be a long process. Though one thing I'm concerned about when it comes to the show is who is going to voice Noodle. We've only heard her speak once and that's in the Jaguar video, so finding a voice actor for her might be another thing that's keeping the show in development
Snipsy Snips Actually I think 2D was lying. He was uncomfortable with the question and made that quite clear so he fibbed. He obviously doesn't wanna talk about it. Also,even if he was ignorant it works. 2D has bad memory loss and trouble sleeping. He might have actually just forgotten himself. I think you're being really nitpicky.
I'm late to this video, but if they ever replaced Murdocs voice actor, there will be carnage. Is Kevin heightened the voice and made it a bit less dreary and flat, it might work better. Also being educated more on lore.
I know im late to the party but kevin bishop has done blackface... seems like the perfect opportunity to sack him and get nelson back
I just figured 2D and Murdoc were fucking around so 2D made some random stuff up for fun
maybe it's because of his brain damage so he can't properly re-call past memories??
I did think it was a little out of character when 2D said Murdoc was being 'facetious and obnoxious', just didn't seem like something he'd say haha, but I don't mind Kevin's voice, the plot holes do bother me a bit but it's only cos I love the lore so much. Either way getting more interviews with the characters is great for me
Ok but like hear me out here... The inconsistencies kinda make sense at times. I feel like a story being told mainly by Murdoc and 2D would be inconsistent. Murdoc probably wouldn't be sober enough to clearly remember things, and if he was, would probably find it funny to fuck with interviewers anyway. 2D has brain damage and a drug addiction and I wouldn't be surprised if Murdoc gaslights him into believing things that aren't entirely true. And the only people to reliably back them up or debunk them are Noodle, who didn't speak English for a while, and Russel, who's possessed and probably missed a lot of shit because of that. And both of them weren't there for parts of it too. So, as unlikely as it is that it was written in purposely, the plot holes are kind of in character for them.
That video was all over the place but, I loved every minute of it 😄
What if the 2d of this phase is not the real one, and is a Cyborg that Murdoc created because the real one is dead or just still doesnt forgive Murdoc for what he did to him on Plastic Beach, and maybe thats why he sounds diferent and has a new voice actor (sorry for bad English)
*hold up-*
i dont know anything about the lore, and i only know a few gorillaz songs, but this is fascinating
the formaldehyde thing made me depressed, kevin bishop seems like a nice person and all but he couldn't even be bothered to google 'gorillaz lore' before trying to improvise
The problem isn’t exactly Kevin Bishop (though some of it is). These interviews are scripted just like any other thing Gorillaz do and the real problem is the lead script writer Ed Caruana. He’s been active since 2016 and it’s incredibly clear that he’s never read Rise or the Ogre or has any clear history of the Gorillaz at the forefront of his mind. He doesn’t know the characters at all. In fact it’s so bad that fans on social media have forced him out of his platform and all his websites are either gone or password protected. He’s that bad. And fans have been trying to get him fired for a good 5 years now.
Thats depressing
Last time I saw Kevin Bishop, he was hanging out with Tim Curry and a bunch of Muppets
Honestly I just took 2D saying the eye thing as him just lying/exaggerating the truth cause sometimes they just like to twist the facts sometimes to be funny (like Murdoc does it alot and 2D has a tendency in the past to do it as well, but moreso him just being forgetful) and as for the Plastic Beach thing I saw it as moreso 2D just trying to move on from the past. He has said he just wants to move on from the past and is trying to just just on with life, so I saw that as a way of just accepting it as a casualty 🤷♀️
The new VA is pretty good, but they will never be the same. :”(
I think the new guy doing his voice was just saying that in the interview because he didn't want murdoc to get in trouble or abuse him again?
It doesn't matter who is a better VA, it's just that you can't change someone's voice
Well, that's silly. Changing out voice actors is a perfectly normal thing in the voice acting business. The problem is you need to fill the person in on what the history of that character is, and pick someone who can emote properly.
I do miss Nelson :( why isn’t he 2D anymore?
dang, you'd think when you get a job VA-ing a very popular character with a very devoted fanbase you'd do a bit of research to find out, at the VERY least, what happened to give him one of his most iconic characteristics. maybe he just forgot or something, and it is a live interview so maybe he just panicked, i dunno.
Ive seen people pointing out it may be a cover up story so they dont gotta retell it and all, but in other interviews with Kevin, somebody must've filled him in because he talks about the car then. Also, they've mentioned many things and then said "we've explained that somehwere else. go look." so Murdoc could've just said "and we told the whole story in one of our older interviews," and thats the end of that.
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Wholesum man is always going to be Wholesum
THANK YOU FOR THIS
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He seems better at it now
I honestly prefer Kevin for speaking but yea nelson understand the lore better
1:02
*that's giving me nightmares*
Wait does he Actually NOT HAVE EYES after the car, I though each accident gave him an 8 ball fracture so he has eyes they are just covered by blood....I'm confused
you're right, he's wrong
2D says they were fractured, correcting Murdoc. It's just that Murdoc is an ass, and thinks the idea of his eyes being knocked out sounds cooler. It's not like he's much of a detail man. XDD
they gave 2d dementia
I am highly offended that he said 2ds eyes just turned black from an accident! >:0
2D screaming bloody murder over Massive is so much funnier than it should be lmao
Yeeeah I was thinking the same thing. Was he not informed of the backstory orrrrrr?
My only guess is that he wasn't informed of the backstory, that they did not tell him anything about 2D other than he's nervous, a 'halfwit', and that he and Murdoc fights a lot. With the way he plays 2D, that's all I think he was told.
However, somehow Kevin is /still/ able to portray 2D better than the reddit AMA writers can. (Considering that Kevin's 2D banters around with Murdoc, and isn't a complete idiot, like 2D is portrayed in the AMAs....At least, from what I noticed. I kinda stopped watching/reading all the interviews from this phase.)
Snipsy Snips I think they also said in an old Telekom post that Murdoc hits him less because he's drunk more now so that might actually be a pet of the story.
If you can the G magazine is really cool, I thought the amas were too since they also had some pretty insightful moments 2D sometimes has but I get your point there
The best Nelson and Phil interviews were the unscripted ones with the improv so I wish they did some more with Phil and Kevin although his accent needs work
Char10tti3 really? I personally hated the amas because actually... I thought they portrayed 2D's character even worse than Kevin Bishop did. This vid quickly shows everything I have a problem with Kevin, but I can go on and on about my problems with the 'written' interviews.
Such as, 2D's character is horribly flanderized, it seems like the only character he has now is that he's an idiot, when his character used to be so much more. Almost everything his character says is a joke about his intelligence. It's to the point where it's nearly insulting. I know that 2D's always never been the smartest, but now he's just beyond dumb. (Examples being saying he's scared of whales because DRAGONS live them. Not only not knowing what Stockholm Syndrome is, but thinking it's a place from SWEDEN, saying the 'wildest' experience at a concert was when a girl threw her panties on stage and bring confused by it.... Even though 2D used to kinda vulgar (he appears on Demon Days with a hickey and there's a pic of him pinching his own nip), and he used to sleep with a lot of women. There's even more examples I can give off, but this is already getting long.)
He's also very nice to Murdoc for seemingly no reason??? And I mean VERY nice. Such as putting up with Murdoc chasing him with a gun, going to a DIFFERENT COUNTRY to retrieve Murdoc's underwear, mentioned at least three times he admires Murdoc in some way. It makes zero sense for 2D to be THIS nice and tolerate to Murdoc, as in other phases except maybe phase 1, 2D is usually VERY nasty to Murdoc. He often isn't very obedient to Murdoc, unless Murdoc threatens him. And 2D has insulted Murdoc's bass playing, his vocals. He's called Murdoc multiple names, even saying that Murdoc could go die, in both phase 2 and 3 I believe? Not only that, but considering the trauma that 2D went through in Phase 3, he should hate Murdoc's guts. It's a surprise he's even in the band after all that. And sure, maybe it is that he developed Stockholm Syndrome. But, the Gorillaz app shows differently? As he's throwing DARTS at his photo in his room.
Also his love for horror is forgotten about? I could be mistaken, but 2D had not mentioned a zombie or horror film in this phase. Which is very odd, as horror films used to be such a big part of 2D's character. It feels odd without him liking them.
As for the G-Magazine, whilst I did enjoy it more so than the other interviews, it definitely had it's problems. It didn't do it as bad, but they said that 2D is getting an allowance from Murdoc, and is apparently doing chores... Which Murdoc makes him do. Maybe I'm just reading into too much, but on top making countless jokes on his intelligence, they're also treating him like a little kid? Which again, is a little insulting. Although I could say I did appreciate the mag for giving 2D SOME serious dialogue, instead of just stuff that sounds like "haha look at me I'm a moron".
But the G-MAGAZINE had another phase 4 common problem, and that's making up whatever the hell they want to. Such as saying that the Spirit House is a house party that Murdoc took them to for a "party to end all parties"... But the music video did not show any ways how it's a party???? I thought they were gonna live there, at least for some time. Who sleeps, and bathes at a party? They didn't party in it like they did in Strobelite, so I felt they just pulled that out of their asses.
Also, maybe I can forgive the interviews for bring nonsense. But the G-MAGAZINE being an actual MAGAZINE, they could've used the opportunity to give us a hint on what the story is gonna be. But they didn't, they wasted it with more nonsense. We don't know what this phase's story is, except the ~world is messed up~ and that's probably less of a story than phase 1 and 2.
I just didn't see how the amas or the mag is insightful on his character, when it feels like bad fanfic catering to the fans, as he's a one dimensional idiot who's an innocent baby who can't do nothing wrong, not even to his own abuser.
Snipsy Snips if that was the case he could have just let Murdoc answer or been spacey like he didn't remember idk that wouldn't have been out of character
SnipsySnips i think that is how adults show love. Sometimes they throw darts at each other’s pictures, and sometimes they will travel countries just to get something for you. I think that’s love maybe
Or is it 2D impostor?? Who knows.. (just like Cyborg noodle instead this one is just perfect Impostor)
Er... I dont want to scare you Murdoc, but im locked in here with you. I do have a key somewhere but I can't find it. I've been watching you... sleeping and......you're quite.... beautiful...when youre quiet.
Kevin guessing 2-D's reason for black eyes and getting it 99.98% wrong and ticking off the fans just made him look like an idiot.
The only time he put emotion into 2-D’s voice was in that video he did with David Luiz. Other than that, straight-up sack him
I mean, 2D can still see, but his vision is blurry
1:49 whats the name of this video
*when can I go home*
I just want Nelson back.. Kevin Bishop isn’t 2D..
Can we talk about Kevin Bishop did blackface and also an antimasker
*Everyone talking about this, discussing it*
Me: haha the music in the background just woke up my parents because of my laugher yay
🤣🤣🤣
I don't like Kevins voice at all 😭 he kinda sounded good in phase 4, but in the other phases, he sounds way! Different, I like Nelsons act on 2d, cus he sounds natural and hes used to his character, and when he voiced 2d, he made him sound like how 2ds personality is brought out to be, but Kevins take on 2d sounds like he has a cold a really bad one 😭 and his voice is raspy especially on the Stuart podcast! 💀 and less with a speech impediment And more British sounding like how 2d used to sound
2D has a fair point
Hated Kevin Bishop ever since he threw a bottle at The Inbetweeners
He did blackface tho
@@engunecobain2006 I didn’t know lol
He can get better,
This is one of the reason no one likes kevin bishop
Not only is he completely unaware of the lore, he’s also an anti-mask black face humor actor. Idk why he was the choice when there were other options. And we still don’t know what happened to Nelson.
Honestly i preferred nelson over Kevin
I agree,Nelson is way better and captures 2-d's personality great
they should just get damon to voice 2d already, makes no sense to have the character's singing & talking voices be so different
anty exactly like what are they doing at this point with his voice Damon would know much more about him plus 2d is older so an older voice would fit him then again a deeper voice would probably bother some of the fans
Have you guys ever heard Damon voice act?? I love him but I don't think he's a good voice actor. There's a reason for everything (except Bishop replacing Nelson)
Because he sings. He can't act.
He did voice 2D very early on
1:52 WHAT IS THIS FROM
But you should always! teach your voice actors about your characters personally and its backstory, It doesn't make sense why damon and Jamie didn't inform him about his character That hes going to play for a couple years!
What is the video of 2d getting gassed
While I do agree the newer actors and writers don’t really get the lore. I feel during the humanz interviews 2D intentionally lied about his eyes because in an earlier interview it mentioned how Murdoc kidnapped him and Murdoc didn’t like it very much. That’s my interpretation anyways.
I don't understand the clip where they both say plastic beach I need context
they were asked to pick between an amusement park and plastic beach, which is better
Sod off ye old goth
my last names lynch lol
This stuff seems all minor tbh, VA replacement I can understand though.
The point of Gorillaz tho was that they were supposed to feel like a real band. This takes away from that immersion. Not to mention, a story isn't as good when it's inconsistent. Plus, it'll also confuse people on what's supposed to be canon in lore and what's not.
@@SnipsySnips It's a band that's trying to act like real people, there's plenty of plausible explanations why interviews don't line up with the series's lore on the basis that real people are imperfect and forgetful, a story trying to aim for "realistic" characters doesn't have to be perfect either. Tons of media franchises have inconsistent lore stuff going on with them so it's pretty much just bound to happen at some point. Imo Gorillaz gets a pass since it was the first (and currently only from what I've seen) to do the whole virtual band type thing so it's considered experimental and is allowed to fumble here and there.
To be honest, Hewlett and albarn are in the same level.
I love Kevin as 2-D.
Actually it wasn't pushed out it has a some effect of being pushed inward because when it is pushed inward he could cause a blood fracture and the blood will fill up the eye honestly I don't think murdoc cared when he was talking about it and I don't know what to say that's what I think and I don't think your I could be inside your skull it would have most likely popped or something
2D Says In The Video That It Was Actually Pushed Inward Instead Of Out..
kevins got a good vioce but doesn’t understand the character
what video is 1:48 from again?
What does the Parque de Diversiones have to do with Plastic Beach?
a n d y 28 I'm not sure what. However, the point I was making in this video is that 2D had some of his best moments at a fairgrounds. A fairgrounds is pretty much like a small, not as exciting theme park. And yet Kevin's 2D picked Plastic Beach over a fun theme park... Even though it's clear that 2D was traumatized by the events of Plastic Beach and he clearly hated it there. So it makes no sense for him to prefer the (Plastic) Beach over a theme park. It was simply again, Kevin's lack of Gorillaz knowledge, and simply picked the beach because he thought "oh, of course 2D would pick something that was from their album lolol."
Snipsy Snips Yeah I know that, clearly the new voice actor was not aware of the full story behind the albums, but I'm still confused since I'm from Costa Rica and I don't know what the Parque De Diversiones had to do with it lol
Basically in one of the advertisements for Humanz, 2D and Murdoc were doing a ‘This or That?’ style quiz where they’re given two options and have to pick which one they prefer. One of the questions was something like ‘amusement park or Plastic Beach?’ and everyone keeps getting triggered because Kevin’s 2D chose Plastic Beach (the OP of the video explained why pretty well I think). Parque de Diversiones is an amusement park, so they probably just used it as a visual? Sorry, I’m not really sure when or where it was mentioned.
Weepsy Going off of the inflection and diction and small body language the motion capture gives off, it feels more like Kevin was at least SOMEWHAT aware of the shit 2D actually went through and probably picked Plastic Beach because Murdoc was standing right there.
Where was that last clip from? Not the speaking part.
Why didn’t they tell him the backstory?
bishop is also an anti-vaxxer😩
when murdoc says it "knocked his eyes out" he doesnt mean literally, he just means that went black so you cant tell if he has eyes. thats not an inconsistency thats just murdoc being dumb. and the reason 2d said he prefered plastic beach is cuz he had been manipulated so much that murdoc had once again convinced him that it was good for him, also by the end of plastic beach all the characters had had new developments, and plastic beach, while being horrible for 2d, was actually good for them all in the end. so neither of those are inconsistencys. also, 2d has had brain damage multiple times, his storys may be inconsistent cuz he forgets things, they have said that 2d has memory problems multiple times
Why doesn't he just get surgery.
U can get surgery to change ur voice?
@@liz_0445 YEAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The comments talk a lot about inconsistencies, which makes me wonder; does 2-D have eyes that are full of blood or are they knocked out because they say both. I don't get it.
In the original lore, from the Gorillaz Rise of The Ogre book/autobiography, it's confirmed they're full of blood. He specifically suffers from hyphema. I think it's mentioned in some interviews from phase 1 as well but I can't remember.
Regardless, original lore wise, 2-D still has eyes. New lore has just forgotten about the previous facts lol.