Brilliant mind jam packed with so much knowledge and he lays it all out so gracefully when he speaks. Mars has a great fighter in his corner with Zubrin on the front lines. Around minute 20 to 24 "till he starts taking questions" when he goes on about America and expanding to other planets is on of the most impressive speeches I've ever heard. Thank you, we will get there never give up!!!!!
I seen the first man in Space. In Space. On the Moon . Much more. I sure would like to see man on Mars. Before my End Game. I do not think I have ten years left in me. I'm 64 at this time. MY END GAME is coming rather fast.
Hi pulesjet, I’m pretty much in the same boat at 69. I wanted to fly since I was a kid and and am still flying, but space flight eluded me. I’ve even space crazy since John Glen’s three orbits. Hope we live to see it. Good luck.
@@wouterdevlieger1002 Born 9-11 57 from within a military family. We was on top of that stuff at the time. We also build our own bomb shelter in the back yard. Most people didn't even own a TV at the time.
@@beachcomber2008 I have ZERO plans of seeing my next birth day. LOL NASA said we would be on Mars in the 70"s. EVERY morning it's a struggle to do about anything.
I appreciate Dr. Zubrin's enthusiasm, although I admit as Minnesota heads back into coldness of fall and winter, and see how my fingers don't work very well outdoors near freezing, and I have to take gloves off to do things, I remember everything annoying on earth is 100x more annoying on Mars. But I know others are more adventurous in boredom and discomfort than me. And while I like to write poetry (not as good as Vogon poetry) but hard to imagine space travel has ANY room for useless artsy people, except as entertainers perhaps, but again, poetry probably won't be the top vice that people want or need after a hard day.
Zubrin's primary argument that space will help avoid humans fighting for the PERCEPTION of resource scarcity, but it seems an irrational assertion. Space resources will be for SPACE uses - any materials you can get in space, you can get more easily on earth.
@@aresmars2003 That won't always be the case, and his best argument against that perception is that ideas make resources, therefore resources are not limited in the conventional sense. My favorite argument of his for the expansion of humanity into space is the prevention of stagnation through an endless frontier in space, as well as the endless preservation of diversity through multiple worlds on other planets that can escape the march toward homogeneity that globalization is resulting in on Earth.
The fact that he exists like Elon Musk is a cause for hope. I study climate change and he sure as hell better get busy very very fast. If they want this golden age to begin they should consider correcting the heat imbalance of the planet along the way, in order to fulfill that future since there's less than 5 years perhaps to avoid passing tipping points that cannot be taken back or survived
The hovercraft uses 6-motors for 45t-force total for 1000gal/4t payload, about 16-passenger, a 5000hp-class medium capacity helicopter capacity, no_fuels to stay on-station, only needing water.
I believe solar power satellites have dramatic and undeniable advantages for Mars power supply including: much much lower cost than nuclear, power, comm and positioning 24'/7 anywhere on the planet, and future beam powered propulsion. More mass can be put into orbit than on the surface and low mass mirrors can compensate for the lower sunlight intensity at Mars.
The power system must, after its deployment be redundant and diversified for stability and permanence. All forms of generation and storage should be employed, the most effective first. A molten salt nuclear reactor-powered generator can be made to fit within a starship, and having landed on Mars, could supply enough power to help install whatever power system one could possibly want. One cannot _begin_ with solar panels.
@@beachcomber2008 The redundancy in this system is the dozens of sats themselves and the fact that rectennas are solid state and low mass enough to have a spare. I only had mass/power for the Kilopower reactor concept and of course nothing for molten salt, but it is 150 kg a kW. By comparison, solar PV at Earth's distance is currently about 4 kg/KW and mirrors to make up the difference would add very little to this. They use electric propulsion to get themselves from LEO to LMO and don't have to be landed. Bottom line is you can have maybe 3 dozen sats of a given power per IMLEO for every reactor based electric power system landed on the surface.
@@stevemickler452 I appreciate your analysis. However I still believe that installing a nuclear reactor _at the point of use_ has far fewer steps for immediate installation, and is thus far safer. The long-term solution would definitely be as you recommend. Here's to the future (it being far too late for me), but hell . . . !
@@beachcomber2008 Thanks for the generous response and I think many share your view. For me; sats that are launched to LEO, checked out and then are sent on their solar electric propelled journey to LMO seem to be the easier/cheaper/safer option.
Great talk Dr Zubrin. I wish everyone had your drive and enthusiasm.
Thank you! You've inspired me since the early 90s.
We are millions 🙌 we will get to Mars together 🌌
Always love to hear Dr. Zubrin.
As usual Dr. Zubrin was excellent. Thank you.
A crazy visionary like Dr. Zubrin should be Nasa director for life. Btw he deserves a standing ovation for 12:48 onward
Except he isn't _crazy,_ of course. *_"In the country of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."_*
At about 24 minutes he hit on what I’ve been quoting him on to my students. I’ve been telling them about: Merchants of Despair.
Brilliant mind jam packed with so much knowledge and he lays it all out so gracefully when he speaks. Mars has a great fighter in his corner with Zubrin on the front lines. Around minute 20 to 24 "till he starts taking questions" when he goes on about America and expanding to other planets is on of the most impressive speeches I've ever heard. Thank you, we will get there never give up!!!!!
Thanks Robert, you have never been afraid of saying it the way it is. I want to see a Human Mars landing in yours and my life times.
Wow! Best presentation yet thanks
If it wasn't for the FAA there would have been a very good chance Space X would have got to space this year
I seen the first man in Space. In Space. On the Moon . Much more. I sure would like to see man on Mars. Before my End Game. I do not think I have ten years left in me. I'm 64 at this time. MY END GAME is coming rather fast.
Hi pulesjet, I’m pretty much in the same boat at 69. I wanted to fly since I was a kid and and am still flying, but space flight eluded me. I’ve even space crazy since John Glen’s three orbits. Hope we live to see it. Good luck.
You recall seeing Gagarin in space? You must have been very young at the time.
@@wouterdevlieger1002 Born 9-11 57 from within a military family. We was on top of that stuff at the time. We also build our own bomb shelter in the back yard. Most people didn't even own a TV at the time.
I'm closer to it than you are. What a tease.
@@beachcomber2008 I have ZERO plans of seeing my next birth day. LOL NASA said we would be on Mars in the 70"s. EVERY morning it's a struggle to do about anything.
thank you
Inspiring, as always. Thank you
I appreciate Dr. Zubrin's enthusiasm, although I admit as Minnesota heads back into coldness of fall and winter, and see how my fingers don't work very well outdoors near freezing, and I have to take gloves off to do things, I remember everything annoying on earth is 100x more annoying on Mars. But I know others are more adventurous in boredom and discomfort than me. And while I like to write poetry (not as good as Vogon poetry) but hard to imagine space travel has ANY room for useless artsy people, except as entertainers perhaps, but again, poetry probably won't be the top vice that people want or need after a hard day.
Zubrin's primary argument that space will help avoid humans fighting for the PERCEPTION of resource scarcity, but it seems an irrational assertion. Space resources will be for SPACE uses - any materials you can get in space, you can get more easily on earth.
@@aresmars2003 That won't always be the case, and his best argument against that perception is that ideas make resources, therefore resources are not limited in the conventional sense. My favorite argument of his for the expansion of humanity into space is the prevention of stagnation through an endless frontier in space, as well as the endless preservation of diversity through multiple worlds on other planets that can escape the march toward homogeneity that globalization is resulting in on Earth.
Thank you for talking about nuclear! And the lack of Mars pathogens… everything. Musk of course. You’re brilliant, as usual.
Zubrin is totally on the ball. Mmm.
The fact that he exists like Elon Musk is a cause for hope. I study climate change and he sure as hell better get busy very very fast. If they want this golden age to begin they should consider correcting the heat imbalance of the planet along the way, in order to fulfill that future since there's less than 5 years perhaps to avoid passing tipping points that cannot be taken back or survived
The hovercraft uses 6-motors for 45t-force total for 1000gal/4t payload, about 16-passenger, a 5000hp-class medium capacity helicopter capacity, no_fuels to stay on-station, only needing water.
I believe solar power satellites have dramatic and undeniable advantages for Mars power supply including: much much lower cost than nuclear, power, comm and positioning 24'/7 anywhere on the planet, and future beam powered propulsion. More mass can be put into orbit than on the surface and low mass mirrors can compensate for the lower sunlight intensity at Mars.
The power system must, after its deployment be redundant and diversified for stability and permanence. All forms of generation and storage should be employed, the most effective first. A molten salt nuclear reactor-powered generator can be made to fit within a starship, and having landed on Mars, could supply enough power to help install whatever power system one could possibly want. One cannot _begin_ with solar panels.
@@beachcomber2008 The redundancy in this system is the dozens of sats themselves and the fact that rectennas are solid state and low mass enough to have a spare.
I only had mass/power for the Kilopower reactor concept and of course nothing for molten salt, but it is 150 kg a kW. By comparison, solar PV at Earth's distance is currently about 4 kg/KW and mirrors to make up the difference would add very little to this. They use electric propulsion to get themselves from LEO to LMO and don't have to be landed. Bottom line is you can have maybe 3 dozen sats of a given power per IMLEO for every reactor based electric power system landed on the surface.
@@stevemickler452 I appreciate your analysis. However I still believe that installing a nuclear reactor _at the point of use_ has far fewer steps for immediate installation, and is thus far safer. The long-term solution would definitely be as you recommend. Here's to the future (it being far too late for me), but hell . . . !
@@beachcomber2008 Thanks for the generous response and I think many share your view. For me; sats that are launched to LEO, checked out and then are sent on their solar electric propelled journey to LMO seem to be the easier/cheaper/safer option.
Maybe we should just make Zubrin president, we'll have man on Mars within a decade. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard!
Love the Martian ancapistan vibes!
Dr. Zubrin, can you? , have you spoken to Elon Musk? You have the best ideas I've ever seen.
We should have been there when he still had hair , wish he had more power into the process
to surrect planets is how to live in a universe
(life as center of the universe)
to master a solar system as identity
You don't sound like you think Biden's getting reelected.
#BruteForce
NASA and BOEING are slowing us down . Go around them if need be.
The FAA is the main roadblock now along with Luddite environmentalists.
Make a movie, followed by a TV series, loke Star Trek.
Please sit still. Or are you on a roller coaster?
At least he’s not banging the $&/)#@ podium.
He's been on a roller coaster his whole life ...