Life On The Isonzo Front I THE GREAT WAR On The Road
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- Опубліковано 14 січ 2018
- Visit the Kobarid Museum: www.kobariski-muzej.si/eng/
Indy gets a tour through the impressive Kobarid Museum dedicated to the Isonzo Front and to the soldiers that experienced the war in the region.
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This are SLOVENIAN mountins my grand grand grand father fought here
Jaka Fili - great guide.
How about a "Who did what" profile on that 11 year old soldier Jaka was mentioning at the end of the video.
Todd C This would be awesome.
His name was Elez Dervisevic and here's Wikipedia info on him. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elez_Dervi%C5%A1evi%C4%87. Btw, he was brought home after the end of war by my ancestor who was his last commanding NCO - because after surviving Isonzo front and being wounded - he was too young to travel by Austrian rail alone...
He's a Bosnian Lad,he has the same surname as my mother.
yes please
We need that so much.
A story from my grandfather: He always told me stories about his brothers and father being deployed at the Isonzo front. His father - my grand-grandfather - said that the thing he hated the most was the problem with heat. There were there at miserable conditions with very low temperatures. At the start of the war there were many soldiers, who were unable to fight after their first weeks. Since not all officers knew that rapidly heating up your hands, when being extremely cold, round fire; can cause severe injuries and even total hand disfunction. So officers were first hated for forbidding hotter heat sources as fire, yet the angry soldiers soon realized why this was so. My grandfather even told me about a story when his father was of a frontal defense again the Italians and he couldnt feel his gun. He said that during all the fighting that day he didnt feel the trigger at all, even had a cold-burnmark on his finger from they years of fighting. As a kid was always wondering what that funny scar on him finger is. When my grandfather told I was actually a little shocked.
Your great grandfather was a brave man.
Really interesting. My great-grandfather fought on the Isonzo front and in school you only learn about the western and eastern front. Great video.
Here in Italy, as you can imagine, we lern most about the Isonzo and the Dolomitic front
I live in the south of Austria and we never learned anything about this topic.
Well, in Italy we almost barely mention ww1, even though it meant a great deal for us
Alessandro Pedretti, davvero? Crdevo se ne parlasse abbastanza in tutta Italia...
Peter Gugganig so did mine
that chap's english is impeccable, and a very compelling story teller too! i love the model topography too. well done all, this was a cracking idea, both broad in scale and right down to the personal level for the poor gits fighting there. difficult job to get that in ww1 coverage i feel
the model photography is awesome. It's so difficult to understand a mountain front (like the Vosges, or Crapathian mountains, or Alps itself) without a 3d model to let you understand why it was so "particular" this front.
And also a great loos of lifes
He was amazing 👍👍👍
Thank you very much for this episode! Actually my great-grandfather fought on the Isonzo front as part of the 41st Honvéd infantry division from Kaposvár. After fighting two years in Galicia they came to the Italian front in early 1917. They were stationed south of Gorizia on the Carso Plateau that you mentioned in several regular episodes. After the Caporetto breakthrough they advanced along the Adria to the Piave River. At some point he took a shrapnel wound that disfigured his leg a life long. My father often mentions how „Jancsi papa“ used to scare the young children in his home village with his disfigured leg when the young spoke about the Great War in a glorifying fashion. In 1957 he died in defence of the family´s carpenter´s workshop in his own home backyard as Red workers guards came to confiscate bourgois property.
Really Ive heard really bad things about the Hungarians on the Isonzo Front that they didnt defend well and were very sloppy with their things because the Austrian Jäger regiments came after them and they wrote that the Front was in the Worst shape theyve ever seen before, and that the Hungarians pretty much gave the Italians land in fear of being fired back at them by Artillery.
Thats very sad 😔
@@fotbollerzdiggson7238 who could blame them? Hungarians, slovenians, croatians etc were used as cannon fodder by the austrians.
My wife and I did indeed visit the Museum the second week of this past October, for the cento anniversario of the 12th Battle of the Isonzo, aka, Caporetto. I very much do recommend a visit to the Museum. If possible, start in Cividalli and drive over the mountain on SS45 into the commune of Drachia, then down the mountain into Tolmin, Slovenia. From there, drive to Kobarid and back to Italy on SS102. You will get a first hand look at the terrain that these soldiers had to survive in, and while your at it, enjoy the beautiful Julian Alps . BTW, English is spoken by most Slovenians. Another trip to see is the monument at Goricia. Also, spend a few days in Ljbljana. It is a lovely city. The Great War series is the best thing on You Tube. Thanks for the work, Ron
Goricia, compromise between Gorizia (Italian) and Gorica (Slovenian). I love it
Having the 3-D map goes a long way to help explain the difficulties for both sides in this campaign. I know when I was a kid in JH/HS and just looking at a flat map I did not understand that I was looking at mountains and how that would make deployments harder to do.
There is a projection of troop movement in museum. I dont know why they didnt show this to indy :D
One should feel a fair amount of sympathy for the soldiers on the Isonzo for both sides. They were busy fighting in freezing tough conditions that would make the faint of heart break under the pressure. So great job with this video.
all were cannon fodder and abused in a useless war
The episode featuring Life on the Isonzo Front, wityh the Slovenian curator of the Kobarid Museum was truly excellent .
Just bought the new Isonzo game. This is great companion material to help me get the context of the front.
This video really hit close to home.
My Mother’s family is from Venzone, just across the border from Kobarid. My Nonna had to evacuate to the south to escape the war. My Great-grandfather served in the Alpini.
The terrain models are really good. What a place to fight. I'm grateful to be born in the 1960's.
Proud to say my Great Grandfather was in the 141º "Catanzaro" Infantry Regiment at this battle
"Portiamo i colori del sangue e della morte ovunque vincitori"
Hello from Croatia, bok Slovenija
GT1986 , Pozdrav iz Bosne!
Bassman 323 uskoro ćemo imati cijelu Jugoslaviju
bok iz Ljubljane :)
Pozdrav iz Slovenije :)
@@re_film_ pozdravljen
Nice to know that Indie was here as well, I just visited this museum just today, and yesterday I was on the mountain where they fought... just hiking is hard, can't imagine how did they fight up there. Have a nice day people!
Heavy accent, but the host seemed really nice and intelligent. Good for us, to get this presentation for free. Shame I can't enter Europe to visit it.
The guy is Slovenian, lives in Slovenia, and you complain about his "heavy accent"... lmfao...
Indy looks a bit confused in this video;
I guess he had a 'Nam flashback there. ;-)
hmmm my guess is to much fun party with the fans the night before. Sounds good at least. Plus Indy hardly says a thing in this video, which has gotta be confusing.
He left his hand-prints all over the glass casings. The cleaners must have been delighted :(
maybe the accent
eberbacher007 maybe he needed to go really badly, but couldn't find a toilet
I just discovered this channel last week & have been binge watching ever since. Great stuff! I'm a 4th year history student (with a stream focusing military history). I really enjoy this era & it's a shame my university never offered a course which solely focussed on WW1, it was often lumped together with ww2 & seen as a prelude to "the age of dictators." So I'm glad this channel fills in the gaps and answers the questions I was curious about, you do it in an entertaining way too!
Thanks and welcome to the show.
It's going to be a long ride. Brace yourself
The game Isonzo perfectly demonstrates the Italian Front in often treacherous terrain and how much of an attrition it was.
I was there during the video filming! Thanks for the experience and great episode.
Damn, nice
I been to this museum in 2016!! it was amazing and it taught me a lot about WWI, in The Netherlands its a much spoken subject, in comperison with WW2.
I'm Italian and I've been in Caporetto (Kobarid) and in that museum; which is really well made, complete and interesting also because there's and entiere section which shows how many times that places changed domination first between the Serenissima Repubblica di Venezia and Austro-Hungarian Empire, than to Italy after WW1 and under American control immediately after WW2 and finally to Tito's Jugoslavia (we all know what he did to the Italian who lived in Istria and Dalmatia from the time of Roman Empire and than of the Republic of Venice). Near Kobarid you can also find and Italian military cemetery, and many sign of the old frontline like trenches.
@Markxyz we also know, what Italians had done betwen 1922 and 1943 to Slovenians and Croats. And we probably will not forget for some time.
Take a look 500 and 1000 years back. And dont forget the fact, taht there are more and more Italians up to Postojna. So? All I am saying that there was a reason for deeds after a war.
With "we" I didn't mean "we Italian" but "we european", still there was no order to kill anyone by Mussolini's regime; anyway Italy itself condemned fascist policies. If in Friuli there is an Slovenian minority is because from immediately after WW2 our costitution justly defends minorities like the French one in Val d'Aosta, the Ausrian in Alto Adige and the Slovenian too; meanwhile in Istria and Dalmatia there are still only few Italian because of precise policies of Tito's dictatorship.
@Markxyz @sjoormen1 @C. C. A.
Look, atrocities were made. We can go back to prehistoric times in our elaborations and no one will be happy with anything that happened. Borders change, populations change. Italians wanted to exterminate the slavic peoples that lived there. The slavs wanted the italic peoples dead. And yes, DON'T FORGET it. EVER.
Don't forget what happened and be greatful that we don't have to live in those bullshit times and be greatful that we have no reason and no wish to fight among ourselves.
Let the dead be dead. No amount of argueing and retribution will change that. The only thing that can come out of it is even more shed blood. And tell me - WHO. WANTS. THAT?
May our united Europe live long and in peace. It was built on many dead and a lot of war.
Markxyz di dove sei?
Zahvala Jaki, da je tako lepo predstavil celotno dogajanje med vojno na Soški fronti.
The above was a thank you to Jaka, for his great presentation of the Soča front (pronounced ˈsoːtʃa) (or as english speakers like to call it - Isonzo front).
Sadly, only few people ever hear anything more than a brief mention of what was happening in this part of Europe during the war, which is quite idiotic. We slovenes have to learn about all other fronts and battles + the Soča front in school.
No! No, Indy, he has a point. We Slovenes are going to gang up on you now. :D
Texas war of independence? Does Alamo have anything to do with this?
@Indiana neidell
I distinctly remember that we mentioned it in school. Many of us kids were surprised to hear that america isn't realy america since always, but that there was at least one seperate state on the continent at one point after the american revolution (children logic, we totaly blanked out Canada and Mexico :) ). We still had to learn next to everything about the latter and the american civil war. Not only that, we also had to learn about the colonisation of america and the westward expansion. Not realy date by date, but we still lingered for two or three periods on the matter, before going forward. Maybe the curricula have changed now a little. I know that my parents, who grew up in communist times, just skimmed the subject, so they knew events and some important people, but not much of the details.
in 1974 I was a summer exchange student in Gorizia, IT. Learned about the Isonzo front for the first time.
Yes! I've been waiting for this episode since september! It's been great to meet you guys in Kobarid and the museum itself is awesome! Greetings from Italy! :)
Amazing episode! Absolutely fascinating to hear about the front from the soldier's perspective
I love your videos so much I find WW1 history very very interesting I’ve been watching a bunch of your videos the past few days!
That is a great museum, been there twice, always something to learn. Thanks for this.
It made me want to visit the museum. Great job, Indy and co.
Great vlog! Must visit the museum and the landscapes!
Another fine segment. The guide was very good and knowledgeable. Again people the smallest contribution goes to continue these on the road trips which makes the information so much more interesting. In school we always enjoyed field trips. Lol
Going to the museum for a visit just today! Sad that I missed this meetup.
my father's grandfather and granduncle served on this front. Dad's grandfather Dragutin in medics unit and granduncle Štef in mountain artillery (gebirgsartellerie). both luckily survived.
tnx indy , tnx staff, i love your work
Another great video!
I went to the museum a year ago. I had a great time. Actually met Fili myself
this is why this channel is so great.
Great episode! Rewind...
Great video! Keep it up! Indy looks confused for the first time when talking about ww1
just finding this channel is the best
Hey, great job to the whole crew. I love what you have done with this channel. Discussing this front gets me thinking, are you going to do a Bio episode on Ernest Hemingway? And possibly the other volunteer ambulance drivers during the war. Thanks again for keeping history alive.
He will get an episode.
Picked a good guide, he is very sympathetic :)
Extremely interesting!
I like the effort of the guide.
Jaka Fili has his game down. love it.
Hey Indy and team great work. Can you guys do a video of what it was like inside tanks
Nice video, very detailed
Incredible.
Hey indie i am getting more and more into programing and i am considering makeing a trench builder game and im wonder how did they first start digging treanch since the side that would set up first would shoot the other side thanks for the amazing show.
Because you've done Kaiser Wihelm and other world leaders, will you do a special episode on King George V?
Indiana Neidell if this plan for WW2 goes ahead it might be worth doing a WDWW for George VI as well
Go to Ypres there is a beautiful museum and if you are there you can also go to other villages or to the large cemetery of the "British" soldiers it is really worth it!
I would love to hear more on that youngest solder.
Thankyou for this video from Slovenia.
You should show us modern day maps to show us exactly where all of these museums and other sites of interest open to the public that you visit are.
You could do a short video showing just that on all of the places you've visited so far.
there is always a link in the description
Indi, I noticed that your waist coat has shrunk just like mine. Great production mate, as always no matter which side poor bloody infantry.
Oh, I was there last year!
That museum looks very good
Wish there was a channel like this one except about the second world war
dzejrid you mean in 2039?
No it is already in the making with indy and other youtube channels
There will be... soon.
Xdxd Dxdx There's a channel called Simple History
WWII is so over done. There's plenty of material. You don't need a UA-cam channel for WWII. Watch WWII in Colour
I think a very interesting episode would be about mystics and occultists like famous british occultist Alaistar Crowley, or Jan Maliarik (nickmnamed as Slovak Ghándhí) and their life during the war. Love the show.
This is so interesting, it's a pity you guys didn't cover the whole museum. Never the less a good video :)
Bel video veramente
Only channel I watch full ads.
Why was lugi so obsessed with the isonzo river
Because 2.000 meter peaks and mountain ridges are easier to capture than the 3.000 meter peaks in the Trentino and in southern Tirol.
As mentioned in the video the main italian offensives did not take place around Kobarid but further down the Soca valley.
You had to cross it to beat the Austro-Hungarians. End of.
I'd be intrigued to see an episode detailing the gruesome hand to hand combat, what weapons were used by whom, and the horrid things soldiers did to each other. Not sure if this is already covered however.
check out our episode about trench raids
The Great War Great, thanks.
I always found how the European aristocracies were related as intriguing. I’d suggest you do a special episode that addresses this phenomenon . I am assuming that you didn’t do one yet.
fantastic episode as always and a great guide as well! but... why was WW I important again? he should have explained that, too :D
About a year ago, I saw some ww1 French tanks in Iraq, my question is how many ww1 vehicles are still in service today?
I've seen a couple videos on UA-cam about old tanks and other armor found in Iraq and Syria.
LuvBorderCollies cool
Hi indy and crew me and my dad share a huge interest in ww2 and after I discovered your channel and the amazing videos we make. We got an even bigger interest for ww1 now because we also love fairly close *southern tip of the Netherlands on the border of belgium* and we're planning to "visit" Ypres and the somme. Do you have any recommendations? We're not really into museums were more into the personal day to day life and the story behind the average soldier. Do you guys have any stories you want to share with us or any recommendations on places to visit?
I absolutely love your channel, and it's sad to see that this is he last year.
Our recommendation would be to wait till we announce our dates for our Belgium trip. Probably this May.
Funny thing
The small mountain "cable carts" were also used in Korea in the 1950s
Will you ever have a show on ww2 I would love to see one
Great show. I've been a fan since 1915 I believe. Recently I watched one of the first episodes of the show and I realised that there are versions available in other languages, including polish. However, in the linked polish channel, there appears to be only one, short video, a kind of a trailer. What happened to the polish version? Was it never produced? Deleted?
Not that I actually need it to understand better, just out of curiosity.
It went on for a few months but we never got enough traction that was worth the time investment of our single Polish colleague who was producing it.
Hey indy and gang I love your videos, top notch work you guys are doing.
But I have a question for the great war crew or fans.
In WW1 the tanks were made which pretty much revolutionized the art of "making enemy go dead"
My question is, were there any absurd weapons or things that were too much for the great war ?
(Like how during WW2 some wanted to make an aircarrier made of ice or how the Nazis tried to do their weird things)
You should do a video about the Greek army's uniform during the Great War
Hello , I love your chanel.
Can you please do a review about the new trailer of battlefield 1, thank you
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11... OH FFS!!!
Wow, Indy was only 1 country away from me, no wonder i felt a disturbance in the Force.
I was in that museum
My grand grandfather was a dalmatian serb that was recreted in the dalmatia-hercegovina regiment and fought against italy was wounded and defected to the serbian army.My question is will talk about the serbs from austrohungaria that were defectors and how many did defekt?
Brought to you by Luigi "11 time's the charm" Cadorna.
Erwin Rommel was on the Isonzo front as a young German officer. I think he even earned German Iron Cross for his brave leadership, actions on the Isonzo front. My mistake it was Pour le Merit.
We visited Kobarid Museum and the surrounding places some years ago. Since Hungary lost thousands of soldiers there we had to see what happened to them on the Isonzo front. The museum is very fair with regard to politics, it does not stand on any fighting party's side.
In my childhood there were jokes about people wearing bandages on head: Have you been wounded on the Isonzo front or in Doberdo?
Are going too the north front in Italy. What part of Italy/Austria etc is the most intresting part too wisit? Sarajevo is the first place to vicite🧐
Pasubio, Monte Grappa, Asiago plateau, plenty of places to visit!!!
Could you make a "who did what" about crown prince Rupprecht of Bavaria?
I was in Bovec in October. The graves weren't taken care of during communist rule, so few have a Name on. The area is so peaceful and beautiful - hard to imagine a slaughter of that Kind. People were amazing, but the Tourist board still has to learn (like not put a poster with a bear to advertise hiking through the untouched nature...). I loved it - go there in summer and spend some time outdoor as well.
Can you do more video about Austro-Hungary???
Could you guys please do a special on Sir John Monash?
We will.
Right now I don't have enough money for a trip in Slovenia.Please don't kill me ,please I will do it in the future ,I promise !
Also as a general holiday destination it's worth it. Beautiful landscape, great food and people.
Slovenians won the only central powers victory in ww1
Why Isonzo and caporetto? This is SlovenIAN land, pir stare,even in the time od war was under AO. SOČA AND KOBARID!
Because the historical names are "battle of caporetto" and "isonzo river"
@@iono5556 But they are istorical false! !
@@VztrajniVolk why? They are names of battles fought by the Italians so why should they be incorrect?
@@iono5556 Because , the Italians attack Slovenian soil slovenian territory, which was part of Ao monarchy! They attacked after the secert London "The Treaty of London was a secret agreement signed by Italy, Great Britain, France, and Russia on 26 April 1915, bringing Italy into the First World War on the Entente side. It therefore had a crucial impact on the conflict. Its content, however, included territorial promises to Italy that would reveal serious inter-allied differences at the peace conference." by wikipedia! So after they they broke alliance with AO and attacked AO monarchy! And " Čudež pri Kobaridu" , or " Miracle at Kobarid" in Dolina Soče are historical names for that places. Italy occupied this territory after first world war!
@@VztrajniVolk i know, i am italian myself but this is not the point. Those battles become famous after the war won by Italy and the names of the battles were given by the ones who won. We are not talking about a place and who belongs to, we are talking about the names of two battles
That reminds me: no special episode on Italian uniforms yet.
There will be one, don't worry.
I wanna know more about that kid
How to you write the name of that young soldier ? I'd like to know more about him.
Elez Dervisevic = Elez Dervišević (1901 - 1988)
nice video..thumbs up from w3academy
This didn't show up in my feed :'(
Did anyone catch the name of the 11 yr old soldier mentioned near the end? There's no way I could spell it in order to look him up.
Elez Dervisevic = Elez Dervišević (1901 - 1988)
for anyone asking how Switzerland could stay Neutral, this is why. Keep in mind here, these are "the little Alps" imagine this kind of warfare on a much larger scale.
If you want to really come close to comprehending the dispair and hardship the soldiers felt, try marching from Feltre city center to the nearest fighting positions around Monte Grappain the mountains. Do it in March or early April. Carry 80 pounds on your back and don't eat for a day. when you take off your ruck and look out ar the Austrian positions across the valley you will begin to understand the loneliness and dispair. Think about what you would write in a letter if you weren't going back to town and had to stay there and rot in filth for six months. Then imagine a shell coming in covering you with some dudes blood and body parts and not being able to wash them off. Feel the wind.
Can we get a video on Bosnian soldiers?
Best sodiers beside rosseb and sekler soldiers in Austro-Hungarian Army!
@@papaszem44 I dont know who those are but Bosniaken gained the most gold medals in that war.
This has been becoming my favoite war zone for some time now. musta been brutally grueling☠️