286: PNSO Edmontosaurus (Zabad 2024) Review
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- PNSO has done it again. What started their current standard in hadrosaurs in the Parasaurolophus now is taken to a new zenith in this wonderful Edmontosaurus.
This is one I have been waiting for as well. Though I was really looking forward to an annectens there is no way I will look this gift horse in the mouth, for it is absolutely, stunningly, beautiful.
References
Nabavizadeh A. New Reconstruction of Cranial Musculature in Ornithischian Dinosaurs: Implications for Feeding Mechanisms and Buccal Anatomy. Anat Rec (Hoboken). 2020 Feb;303(2):347-362. doi: 10.1002/ar.23988. Epub 2018 Nov 25. PMID: 30332723.
Nabavizadeh A. Cranial Musculature in Herbivorous Dinosaurs: A Survey of Reconstructed Anatomical Diversity and Feeding Mechanisms. Anat Rec (Hoboken). 2020 Apr;303(4):1104-1145. doi: 10.1002/ar.24283. Epub 2019 Nov 1. PMID: 31675182.
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Personally I love the coloration, it reminds me of a big orange muffin. I hope that PNSO does more hadrosaurs this year and especially a re-release of Lambeosaurus.
At this point, anything except theropods would be a very welcome breath of fresh air!
This might be a very selfish request but I think it'd be very interesting that from now on you included the Haolonggood Alamosaurus in your comparisons to admire how different dinosaurs compare to it; I just love the figure so much I would really enjoy seeing it featured in more videos like the T-rexs usually do
Thank you for your comment, Jorge! Unfortunately, it's high on my sauropod shelf and rather difficult to get to once I put it there. I also try to make comparisons based on cladistic closeness, formation, and also, try to choose models that most people would have. That's why I choose the PNSO T Rexes, as either Cameron and Wilson are ones that most of my viewers already have.
My collection has a real theropod bias, this might just be what I need.
This is what will bring balance to the Force.
I missed the olorotitan in the comparisons 😢 but great review as always
Yes I realized too late I forgot! 😪
What an astounding piece, I’m in absolute awe of how well executed this turned out. The amount of realism makes this feel like an actual taxidermied animal.
Ah, "taxidermied" is the word! I wish I'd thought to say that! yes this is truly PNSO's best hadrosaur!
Même il est important de noter qu’il existe 2 spécimens d’Edmontosaurus annectens qui aurait mesuré jusqu'à 15 m !! Pour une masse de 18 tonnes ! ! Donc se modèle est à l’échelle 1:35 - 1: 44
You always put so much care and attention in your reviews… Thank you for going the extra mile with analyzing the scientific accuracy compared to other reviewers. For collectors focused on accuracy like me, this is valuable material indeed.
BTW, will you be getting Haolonggood’s Edmontosaurus as well? I’m torn between this PNSO Edmontosaurus and Haolonggood’s version. PNSO’s is very well researched as per usual, but the shape of the crest is admittedly a bit unusual as you mention. HLG’s has a more conventional looking one. And I think they will do a good job with accuracy as well, and surely the model will be more affordable.
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts about it if you end up getting it!
Thank you very much for your kind words! Unfortunately my sharing comes from a fanatic interest in anatomy and are still the word of an amateur. I wish I had studied palaeontology years ago; I'm sure I could be more indepth 😁
I will most certainly get at least one of the HLG Edmontosauruses! HLG has done such a fantastic job with their rapid improvements that hadrosaurs being my 2nd favourite dinosaur group, I absolutely have to give it a try. It looks bigger too than the PNSO, so it would nicely fit a larger specimen.
I would suggest that if HLG's Edmonto comes out soon, you have time to watch reviews and decide. The problem is, if HLG's Edmonto comes out way into the subsequent runs of PNSO's. And we all know that PNSO is notorious for having deterioriation of paint apps in late run ones. If you can find a PNSO Edmonto on sale and it won't hurt you financially _and_ you aren't sick of brown-based dinos, it might be a good idea to pick it up.
Is this the best Edmontosaurus figure out there? The answer is 'Yes'. The color application, the pose, the size, and the sense behind it. Everything about this figure makes it the best Edmontosaurus figure out there. That comb looks more like a rooster's red crest. But I imagined it to be a casque, like in cassowaries. And if you can remember, in that Haolonggood Tlatolophus video, I asked about the skinny front limbs. Well, now look at this guy. This Edmontosaurus didn't skip leg day and looked so healthy. And it looks so natural and alive. These giants are not like gazelles. They must have beefy limbs to run, fight, and, most importantly, carry their body weight. So, I think the PNSO Corythosaurus and Lambeosaurus forelimbs are slightly inaccurate.
Even though I do not have this beauty, I'm sure those who do will greatly cherish this figure. And thank you so much, my dear sir, for always sharing your knowledge with us. You are the best. 🖤
Haha, don't you mean this Edmontosaurus didn't skip _arm_ day? 😁I would say this is PNSO's best hadrosaurid so far. The PNSO Parasaurolophus marked a big change towards their integument improvement, but still had rather spindly front limbs. This one ticks all the boxes. It is true when you consider the proportions of the bones that it could and indeed should have more muscle, and now PNSO updates that look. I hope they'll redo Lambeosaurus and Corythosaurus!
oh damn, yes that Edmontosaurus is hefty. I love it. Really adds something to any Hell Creek Collector
That is for sure! This is the reason my holding off on the CollectA Edmono paid off! 😁
Beautiful review. Love Hadrosaurs. Cheers from New Zealand
Thank you! Hadrosaurs are my second favourite clade, which alternate with ceratopsians depending on my mood! 😁
Between PNSO and HLG, I think I will have my dream collection of 1/35 dinosaur figures.
This Edmontosaurus is one of PNSO’s finest hadrosaurs. Hoping they will charge forward with a full on 1/35 Shangtunosaurus. I’m surprised we haven’t seen one before now.
I’ve liked the previous hadrosaurs and wasn’t particularly bothered by some of the more gracile forms but I grew up with Greg Paul renditions that were representing most groups of dinosaurs as slimmer than the blobby tail drag gets from 60 years ago. I just appreciate PNSO’s continued excellent renderings as well as your continued in depth reviews.
Applause.
Thank you very much! 😁 I'm glad that my reviews are watched by dedicated viewers who don't just stay for a quick look at the models themselves.
I realy do hope for a *real **1:35** Shangtunosaurus* . There is still a bitter aftertaste in the mouths of many collectors when the Tsintaosaurus, one of the larger Chinese hadrosaurs actually showed up in such a minuscule size! given the size of it in 1:35 and the fact that PNSO offered it in the hollow vinyl of yesteryear, and how they've quit that and given us solid sauropods of lesser size instead, I don't hold out much hope. I think a true 1:35 would be more realistic from HLG. Being a Chinese company, I am sure they would be happy to tackle a Chinese dinosaur!
I too actually really liked the very gracile forms in Paul. Hence I never commented on the spindly forelimbs in my earliest PNSO hadrosaur reviews. But since then I've come to appreciate that there was probably a lot more muscle bulk to be had over those bones. Hence I'm happy how PNSO has evolved in their understanding as well.
I think we’ll see the Shangtunosaurus by someone but wanted to pass on that your continued passion for the subject of Dino-figures and collection is appreciated by a cadre of honest dinophiles that appreciate quality over quantity. Your vids are much more than figure reviews, you educate.
Never change that aspect of what you do.
It makes a difference.@@DinosDragons
I want to state that the California Condor has fleshy cheeks made of skin. Ornithischians Dinosaurs may not have had muscular cheeks like mammals, but they could have folds of skin to cover the teeth and the gums as well as to hold food in the mouth. Edmontonia and panoplosaurus that had large osteoderms in the bucal area probably had cheeks to hold them in place.
Yes that's the idea. When people say dinosaurs had cheeks they're definitely not talking about tissue homologous to mammalian cheeks! The question has always been, what would take the place of the buccinator muscles. I believe I've mentioned the buccal osteoderm in Panoplosaurus in another video, when I talked about cheeks as well 😊
Thanks for replying! It means a lot when a youtube channel owner communicates with others. The thing that could take the place of the buccinator muscles in the cheek area of these dinosaurs could be either just elastic skin (like Condors) or a new muscle structure unique to Ornithischians. I also want to remind that Parrots has two unique jaw muscles that are completely absent from all other birds. The ethmomandibular and the pseudo- masseter. The sides of the bucal area of Ornithischians are very deep compared to other dinosaurs, so reasonably anyone would think that there must be something besides just gums@@DinosDragons
Having limited resources I can get only a handful of models and actually have a soft spot for theropods. But I also want to have a collection where I can show atleast one from each famous group of dinosaurs. And for hadrosaurs, this beautiful model is definitely going to be one and just bought it. Thanks for the review, it helped me choose over many other models.
Thank you for your kind words! In fact another viewer recently wrote me to ask for advice for one representatie for each group, and for hadrosaurs, _this_ one was my recommendation! No question about it. In terms of size, detail and texture, and paint application, PNSO hit this one out of the park!
@@DinosDragons Surely. And I've previously said as well, I love how detailed your reviews are and how much science they contain. Keep up the good work !❤️🙌
Resisting the urge on the small chance they release an updated shantungosaurus later in the year, since it's only slightly bigger than Wyatt. What a time to be a collector though. Rapidly ticking off all the 'heavy hitting' species. I wont know what to do with myself next year :D
I absolutely support a PNSO remake of Shangtunosaurus. Hopefully PNSO won't do us a dirty like they did with the Tsintaosaurus in terms of size! 🤣😂
Hi Dino Dragons,
I would like to know if you have a video reviewing the Edmontosaurus figure by Haolonggood. Greetings from Mexico!
17:00 Thank you for the mention. Since you and others asked us to dig deeper into the matter, we recently uploaded a short video about our idea of the reference skull. Hope it helps!
Thank you for this! I'll check it out as soon as I get home later! I love your blog since way back when I read that you actually counted the osteoderms on the PNSO Borealopelta. I only wish I understood Italian. Please send my regards to Dr Bertozzo!
@@DinosDragons luckily for you (and anyone who's interested), the video has both EN and IT texts. Enjoy it 😉
I'd love pnso to make a figure of magnapaulia. It's been missing from collections for too long
It would probably be a very large Lambeosaurus with an especially deep tail, but if it was at least Edmontosaurus sized with all the new refinements, I'll take it!
@@DinosDragons I say the more hadrosaurs, the merrier. They look so wonderful standing together
Is Cameron still the newest and best t-rex, or did 2023 bring us other new versions, from any of the main producer brands?
Sorry that this is unrelated to this dino figure😂
Cameron is definetely still the best imo. The only "flaw" is that it is lipless. I put that into quotes since the whole lip debate is far from settled
Agreed. I'm not very invested in the debate, but I have the inpression that most lean towards lip.
My main issue is that theese producers don't seem to be consistent in the size of the models. I'm new to buying dino models, in fact I have not received the first one yet technically, but I already hate all scales but the 1:35, since the t-rex is the benchmark😂 I also want more raptors and other smaller dinos, still in 1:35. That would be very very good. I realize the smallest ones would be tiny, but I'd love it.
@@thor_86 pnso mostly sticks to 1:35, only the really large and really small species differ in scale
@@Bota7120 Yeah I saw that, but that is a shame imo. I want full 1:35 sized sauropods😄
@thor_86
For 1:35 sauropods, I think that HLG will now be the company of choice. Look at what they've done so far.... Apatosaurus, Alamosaurus, Ampelosaurus. They even have a Mamenchisaurus coming up.
Thank you for the magnificent review again! I'm very pleased to finally see a wonderful Edmontosaurus figure! Incredible detail and a nice beefy look! Nevertheless, disappointed by the traditional paintscheme which gives it an odd tiger-like appearance in my opinion. A big doubt to purchase this figure... I hope this is the beginning of a hadrosaur line from PNSO, with an update of their Lambeosaurus and Corythosaurus but also a Shantungosaurus and Maiasaura :) But first: looking forward to the Edmontosaurus from Haolonggood
You are most welcome! It's really enjoyable for me to do reviews on a clade I really like. Sauropods are my favourite, but hadrosaurs are second. The absolute elegance and efficiency of the hadrosaur bauplan is amazing. I hope PNSO will bring their refined process to more hadrosaurs for sure. Lambeosaurus in the same scheme with the reticulated patttern and a Corythosaurus in 1:35 with a correctly proportioned head would be very welcome! Shangtungosaurus will hopefully not be insulted with the size of the Tsintaosaurus!
Yes, I'd be keen to see what HLG does with their Edmontosaurus!
Edmontosaurus has had a glow-up the last decade or so, with the crest on the E.regalis species to the fact the later E.annectens species was almost Shantungosaurus-sized. What I've noticed in general is that Saurolophine Hadrosaurs are often overlooked in favor of Lambeosaurines, think about it, when have you seen a figure of Gryposaurus, Brachylopsaurus, Prosaurolophus or Saurolophus? Even a comic & animated series I've seen set in fictional versions of Hell's Creek had Parasaurolophus & Olorotitan as the hadrosaurs instead of Edmontosaurus...
I thnk it's an obvious draw because when there are elaborate headcrests there is more novelty and novelty sells. Add to the standards of today for sculpt and paint application, and the potential for flamboyance and attraction seems higher for crested hadrosaurs rather than those that are often perceived as 'boring'. A pity though... my Safari Ltd Gryposaurus is one of my favourites! I hope that PNSO maybe will one day dare to take the risk of making a crestless hadrosaur.
One of pnsos best in a while
That is for sure!
Another Amazing Review hopefully PNSO will release more Hadrosaurs like Maiasaura,Hadrosaurus,Saurlophus or maybe remakes of they’re original two Lambeosaurids and Parasaurolophus and again thank u for this amazing review
You are most welcome! Hadrosaurs are (often) my second favourite group of dinosaurs, so it was a pleasure to review this very representative dinosaur! I really hope for the Lambeosaurus and in a simlar colour scheme to get a reboot too! 😁 And Corythosaurus.
This guy is very pretty! The pose is interesting too, almost looks surprised by something.
I heard a long time ago that the grooves on the beak are actually suppose to be on the inside of the beak, not the outside and that it's a common misconception that they were on the outside.
Though it has been years since I heard this so I don't know if that claim is still accurate or not.
Actually it really depends. There _are_ grooves in various structures that might represent blood vessels you wouldn't see on the surface. On the other hand in a model of a live animal, the cracks could represent simply the form of the keratin over the actual bone itself. 😁 So these cracks seen here may not be the same cracks on the bony remains.
I was bothered the Ancestor's Edmontosaurus wasn't available to me but this is even better. Not just the overall sculpt and detail but the colouration is more 'compatible' with other figures. Great review as always!
Well from what I've seen, I think you will like this one at least equally to the Ancestor's one, which also looks very nice from pictures I've seen 😁
Excellent review , and totally agree with you ,....this is an amazing piece for any hadrosaur lover
For sure! The more I handle it, the more I think it is PNSO's best hardosaur, even better than the Parasaurolophus.
Fantastic review as always! And exactly what I was waiting for. After hearing your thoughts, I just placed my order.
I am sure you've received your order by now, and am as astounded by it as many other collectors are! 😁
I really love this figure and like with many I can't wait to get this figure.
You're videos are so well informative and I really like how they're structured
Thank you very much! I try my best! Hadrosaurids are enjoyable for me since they are my second favourite dinosaur group! 😁
Great figure, hope they re-launch lambeosaurus.
Yes, for sure! And Corythosaurus with correct head proportions and 1:35!
i love this figure so much i have already ordered it, i was awaiting for an edmontosaurus figure by pnso for so long, basically since i got their doyle i was hoping for one and we finally got it and im so happy that it fits more as edmontosaurus annectens than regalis despite being heavily influenced by regalis
Actually, it might be possible E. _annectens_ to had some soft tissue over the head, but I think if you really want an _annectens_ you could just cut it off 😁 I would wait a bit though.. who knows Paleonerd blog may well tell us there _was_ a _regalis_ specimen with this form!
@@DinosDragons i really think for edmontosaurus annectens you can add a comb too this is a very specific soft tissue structure, even if we found a mummy with good head tissue preservation that doesn't show any crest it could eaily be due to it being a female and only males are the ones who have it for example, even with regalis, we dont know if its sexual dimorphism
as long as the comb has different shape from regalis, even slightly, everything is fine for me
and i also got my figure too and i gotta say in hand its spectacular and a perfect size next to pnso trex
I can’t wait to do a project. Basically, I’m doing an outside project maybe during the spring and summer and it will be about an Edmontosaurus escaping the jaws of Tyrannosaurus rex.
Do you mean a film project or a review? Either way, good luck with it! Set a goal, then work backwards with a plan, and I have no doubt you'll have your diorama !😁
@@DinosDragons both a figure review and a film project
@@DinosDragons and no, I don’t have a diorama
FINALLY.. Worth to wait review.
It is a fantastic model! Worthy of Museum Line even!
Excelente review! 👏👏 Yo opino que Es una figura realmente increíble! 😮 El detalle y la variedad de formas que tienen las escamas es espectacular 🤯 Tuvimos mucha suerte en que esta figura no fuera de la línea museo de PNSO 😅 porque el precio actual igual es otra gran ventaja! 😁
Ojalá pronto llegue un nuevo Shantungosaurus tambien 👀
Por cierto, yo quería hacerte una pregunta no relacionada con el video: ¿Viste el nuevo Suchomimus de Papo? Tú pensas adquirirlo? Yo me llevé una sorpresa al verlo, se ve como una figura con buenas proporciones y sin elementos de fantasía exagerados como en sus demás modelos 👀
¡Gracias! ¡PNSO ha alcanzado un nuevo nivel con la increíble escultura de este modelo!
¡Me encantaría ver el Shantungosaurus en escala real 1:35! No el tamaño ridículo que nos dieron para Tsintaosaurus.
Realmente espero que el Papo Suchomimus tenga éxito. Por supuesto, la pintura en el adelanto no es el trabajo de pintura real que puede esperar obtener.
Pero si solo la escultura es igual de buena, la compraré para apoyarlos. Papo es una historia muy triste de cómo algo grande puede hundirse hasta el nivel más bajo. Creo que parece demasiado grande para ser 1:35.
Incrível 👌
I think this is PNOS's best hadrosaur to date!
Breathtaking. ❤
Beautiful for sure!
Don't forget some of us are old enough to remember that it used to be "Trachodon".
I bow to your seniority, my friend! 🙏
About time 😂
Yes yes, sorry, everything is pushed back for me by three weeks 😅😅 The year end/ year start crowd and now CNY doesn't help 🤣
@@DinosDragons are u excited for the new halogood edmontosaurus ?
아 두상이 마음에 안든다.. 구매해야할지 고민된다
Oh what is wrong with the head shape?
@@DinosDragons 그래 두상 디자인이 마음에 안드는데 주문했다 고민끝에..
@@멀더fox I hope you will find that everything else is so good that the head can be forgiven! 😁
I need it TwT
Haha best to get it earlier before the next production runs give you poorer paint quality.
@@DinosDragons what I really want is for PNSO to make a Tyrannotitan Chubutensis
urgly pose honestly....
Then you get to save your money! 😊