Using a black hole for power is legit. There are two ways it can work: 1) Black holes emit Hawking radiation. It has to do with virtual particles popping into existence too close to the event horizon, but you can think of it as the black hole evaporating. The problem is the speed it evaporates is inversely related to the size. In other words, if it gets too small, it gives off energy too quickly until it goes "boom". This "boom" would be big enough to be seen in another galaxy. (These haven't been observed, since there is no mechanism to make black holes this small in nature other than the Big Bang.) 2) The other way to get power from a black hole is to drop stuff into it. As gravity accelerates matter, the matter will give off intense radiation. (This is observed around active black holes.) This uses a bigger black hole, but could still work for an unnaturally small one. Both of those methods could work in reality, plus the Romulans could have recalibrated a deflector dish with a dilithium enhanced tricorder to create a phase differential in the time-space continuum.
The “touching a plasma field” thing gave me the same vibes as those science museum exhibits where you touch a big metal ball and it makes your hair stand on end. Like, electricity can definitely be dangerous, but in a controlled exhibit you can make something that us nerds will find super cool.
If you accept the premise of an isolated temporal bubble then interacting with matter and energy you normally wouldn't does make sense. Concepts like speed of light lose their usual meaning. For example, being electrocuted would basically be impossible unless the current could pierce the temporal field and resume its normal speed inside your body, which itself is a problematic idea.
"He just kept talking in one incredibly long unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one could interrupt it was really quite hypnotic..."
This is probably my favorite episode where nothing makes sense. Usually I'm turned off by episodes that depend on non-functional science to provide tension and to move the plot along but for some reason it works for me in this episode. Among all the other issues, the Enterprise would probably be either pitch dark or looked like you no-clipped out of bounds in a video game due to the photonic nature of light. This episode is famous for its soundbites in "The Picard Video". Nice touch playing the music backwards during the recap and end title.
I love the temporal narcosis explanation. Makes total sense. Just like how nitrogen at high pressure can dissolve in the lipid bilayer of nerve cells in the brain, resulting in an anaesthetic effect, time. at high... pressure, can dissolve in, uh... Never mind.
LOL, i was sure one of you was going to say just kick the people in the jefferies tubes out of the way and laugh about it later when they wake upon the floor all fuqed up. And for real, I'd have pants at least one person that was frozen, or taken that time to punch someone i didn't like in the face, then laugh about it for years after, cause that's funny to me. Also Riker was wrong, humans have circadian rhythms that regulate our entire biological system, so we do in a sense have internal chronometers.
Always wondered if the writers got the idea for this episode from the season 3 TOS episode "Wink of an Eye", that is the one where the people on Scalos are time accelerated and cannot be seen by people operating within normal time. This was one of the more entertaining episodes of season 6 despite it having a number of plot issues. Also liked the visual effects of the Enterprise and the Warbird in suspended animation, can't see that being easy to pull off in the mid-90s, even with TNG's pretty hefty budget at the time. I think this one is at least a B-
I loved the reverse theme music at the end. You guys are clever. 😉 My apologies for making a 70th comment under this video. I promise not to do that ever again. If only there were some way to reverse time itself. I know it's very easy. (pfft!) After all, any human worth their weight in gold-pressed Latium knows how to accomplish such a trivial feat and I am NOT dumb! Sadly, I lack the correct equipment to do such a thing. Peace! 😎🤘☮️
1:15 SO fun fact. That whole set was basically a bit of Budget embezzlement. DS9 had no budget left to build more sets, and they never did have the back of a Runabout made. So they used a bit of TNG's budget to make one, intending to give it to the DS9 team after... Only for DS9 to never use it and eventually switch to the Defaint.
I think this is the only episode where you see the rear quarters regardless of show, though I haven't watched completely through DS9 or Voyager in a very long time.
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 It is. Ironically they built it to basically soft-embezzle the remainder of TNG's set budget for DS9(Which was out of set budget) to recycle later. And then DS9 never used it.
Decades later, when I was watching TENET, I immediately think of this episode and said "I've seen this scene of 'two groups of people who're from the opposite time directions acting in the same timeline' before!"
Living in the TNG universe would drive an actual person completely insane. You'd never know what was real and what was a temporal anomaly and you'd live in constant terror of what disaster is certainly right around the next corner.
Tell me about it. There was this time I got caught up in a situation involving Morn, a Gorn, a packet of Flaming Wostits and a species that uses vowels in their language during a special screening of Metropolis. For some reason, I remember Ensign Gallagher being present and alive that day despite having been vaporised by a rogue starship captain last week.
It's a fun high concept episode, but one has to roll with a lot. I'd put The Next Phase well above this onez as by season 6 TNG was stale. C- The blu-ray was disappointing; Picard's smiley face has the same pattern but lacks the shadow detail the original had - perhaps deliberate, but the original had a little more depth. Superimposing the original over the new and set the layer to allow the original's brightness to override and the result is... the best of both worlds. 😏 12:33 it's not the TARDIS console from Doctor Who circa 1977! 😅 Nice reversal of the theme music at the end.
@@mikeluit3027 I'll look for it. It's fun to see differences between the original and remastered, but didn't expect the lack of shadowing. Maybe they thought it would be light bloom? Which would make sense, but it still looked a little off
Chekov's fruit makes zero sense: They'd just replicate it on demand instead of having some random bowl on the table. It's like the writers don't actually understand the Trek universe ... or, worse, they just don't care.
Good review as usual. I find that these episodes like other "time/phase" episodes can be tricky and get rather overdone or needlessly complex. This one, I believe, falls into another category altogether; stale. D+ seems about right. The concept was flawed a bit from the get-go. When most of the episode you have people and things set up in still form, you really are relying on the performance of your active members. This means it's even more on a limited few, i.e. fewer props and character interactions. Introducing some new (and interesting) characters early on in this episode might have played off better, but as the episode played out I found it a little tedious and the conclusion hurried. Another episode with this time/phase concept, but played out much better, is Season 5 Episode 24 "The Next Phase". Instead of this episode, where all the characters are basically mannequins, Geordi and Ro are invisible and get to see what others say and do around them. We get their narrative, sort of speak. Thus, in that episode, they still have all their props and interactions to help the main actors (and audience) along.
A tiny black hole is theorized to give off exceptional power as Hawking radiation. It's actually one of the most scientifically grounded technologies in Trek.
Black holes are one of the potential ways we create long-lasting reactors for ships if it turns out FTL isn't possible. You wouldn't capture them or anything, you'd make small ones in factories with gamma lasers.
When it came to people not noticing/caring about the protagonists when time moved forward, I my brain immediately justified it as everyone being far more concerned with the fact that their ships are about to explode over the fact that there are some Star fleet officers are on the ship probably helping them.
Help, I'm being sucked into a back hole. Alas, Romulan engines will be my undoing! Not much forward thought was put into the writing. Now if only we had an FTL engine that ran on puns.
Did you know everything moves at the speed of light on the time axis of space time? So now take that and couple with what we know (suspect) that gravity will tear people into shreds around black hole, and that’s what’s suppose to happen to people with body parts in different times. (Did you also know that once past the event horizon, what draws objects into black hole is not gravity but time-you’re no longer moving towards singularity in any of the space axises but in the time axis?)
You guys are so lucky. You had done a disastrous job on the review and were losing subscribers! So I recalibrated my smart phone flip flapper and restarted your review after giving you subliminal priming. Now it's another review based on a comedic premise.
I'm not a space guy, but wouldn't having artificial black holes powering every Romulan ship mean catastrophic consequences whenever they are damaged or destroyed?
You could power a ship with black hole, just small enough, so its hawking radiation would be sufficiently strong. Its bascically form of battery if you are able to create one. However, here they simply open the hatch and look at it, which is stupid.
Black hole powerplants/engines are a real concept though beyond current tech if it's even possible to create and sustain one. Look up Kugelblitz black holes. I think Isaac Arthur has a video about them on his UA-cam channel as well. Had fun watching as always.
The way Star Trek characters handle phasers shows an appalling disregard for proper gun safety. Throwing the phaser like that is insanely stupid, especially since we know the trigger is a simple button on the top that Dr Crusher could have easily accidentally touched. Just count the number of times they point phasers at things and people they would NOT want to shoot. Even worse, the standard phaser holsters have the business end of the phaser pointed toward the carrier's own body.
It would be interesting to see a TNG spin off, where every episode takes place in an alternate reality version of it's corresponding episode, but where they don't solve the crisis their in, and die.
Heghlu’meH QaQ jajvam, wo’ batlhvaD! _Qapla’!_ …nuqDaq ‘oH tach’e’? (Universal translator, _for honourless, non-Klingon pan’SieS:_ “Today is a good day to die, for the Empire! _Success!_ …Where’s the bar?”)
So, Troi sits there and talks about a situation where she got sexually harassed, but they all laugh at the 'inter-species mating' "punchline". Today, that would be a HR nightmare. While you may have liked the casual scene, I found it jarring. They were all off character to some degree and Stewart was clearly mailing this scene in or at least doing improv. It was clearly time filler too, maybe because they didn't write a B plot and running time was too short? This is a high concept episode that didn't get much thought put into it. I liked the mini black hole idea, the adult aliens though were very meh villains. The Temporal Narcosis scene is there to set stakes for the crew, but it falls flat due to SFX limitations at the time. It should have been left out. I think a D+ is fair here, this is TNG on autopilot. If this was season 1 or 2 I would be more charitable, but by S6 they were struggling, evidently, to pump out 26 good scripts per season. It's too bad, they probably spent a lot on the effects in post just to lay this 💣
Wasn’t as bad…?? I really wish u guys would stop reviewing shows you claim to enjoy but knit-pick to a point which is disappointing to those of us willing to suspend our disbelief. Just annoying and dumb.
I’m glad you mentioned the guest actors and what works they did. It’s extra research but it’s worth it.
Using a black hole for power is legit. There are two ways it can work:
1) Black holes emit Hawking radiation. It has to do with virtual particles popping into existence too close to the event horizon, but you can think of it as the black hole evaporating. The problem is the speed it evaporates is inversely related to the size. In other words, if it gets too small, it gives off energy too quickly until it goes "boom". This "boom" would be big enough to be seen in another galaxy. (These haven't been observed, since there is no mechanism to make black holes this small in nature other than the Big Bang.)
2) The other way to get power from a black hole is to drop stuff into it. As gravity accelerates matter, the matter will give off intense radiation. (This is observed around active black holes.) This uses a bigger black hole, but could still work for an unnaturally small one.
Both of those methods could work in reality, plus the Romulans could have recalibrated a deflector dish with a dilithium enhanced tricorder to create a phase differential in the time-space continuum.
The “touching a plasma field” thing gave me the same vibes as those science museum exhibits where you touch a big metal ball and it makes your hair stand on end. Like, electricity can definitely be dangerous, but in a controlled exhibit you can make something that us nerds will find super cool.
If you accept the premise of an isolated temporal bubble then interacting with matter and energy you normally wouldn't does make sense. Concepts like speed of light lose their usual meaning. For example, being electrocuted would basically be impossible unless the current could pierce the temporal field and resume its normal speed inside your body, which itself is a problematic idea.
Touch and electric fence.
"He just kept talking in one incredibly long unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one could interrupt it was really quite hypnotic..."
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I am - Jean Luc Picard - of the USS - Enterprise!
ThErE!.. aRe!.. fOuR!.. lIgHtS!!!
@@SwayRod836 Taken from the novel 1984, in which the main character is tortured into admitting that 2 + 2 = 5.
We are Borg.
I appreciate the outro music
This is my favourite UA-cam series :D I always get excited when I see a new episode.
Love this UA-cam series.
The cat Scratches are RIDICULOUS too. Spot must be HUGE to have claws that BIG 😮😮
Nice touch with the theme song and credits at the end
8:58 "with spots floating around it"
Missed opportunity for a terrible pun, Data's cat is named Spot.
This is probably my favorite episode where nothing makes sense. Usually I'm turned off by episodes that depend on non-functional science to provide tension and to move the plot along but for some reason it works for me in this episode. Among all the other issues, the Enterprise would probably be either pitch dark or looked like you no-clipped out of bounds in a video game due to the photonic nature of light. This episode is famous for its soundbites in "The Picard Video". Nice touch playing the music backwards during the recap and end title.
I appreciate you guys noting that the conversation on the shuttle craft was real. That was one of my favorite parts of this episode.
I love the temporal narcosis explanation. Makes total sense. Just like how nitrogen at high pressure can dissolve in the lipid bilayer of nerve cells in the brain, resulting in an anaesthetic effect, time. at high... pressure, can dissolve in, uh... Never mind.
It's one of my favorite episodes, alongside the next phase!
LOL, i was sure one of you was going to say just kick the people in the jefferies tubes out of the way and laugh about it later when they wake upon the floor all fuqed up. And for real, I'd have pants at least one person that was frozen, or taken that time to punch someone i didn't like in the face, then laugh about it for years after, cause that's funny to me.
Also Riker was wrong, humans have circadian rhythms that regulate our entire biological system, so we do in a sense have internal chronometers.
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Always wondered if the writers got the idea for this episode from the season 3 TOS episode "Wink of an Eye", that is the one where the people on Scalos are time accelerated and cannot be seen by people operating within normal time. This was one of the more entertaining episodes of season 6 despite it having a number of plot issues. Also liked the visual effects of the Enterprise and the Warbird in suspended animation, can't see that being easy to pull off in the mid-90s, even with TNG's pretty hefty budget at the time. I think this one is at least a B-
I just discovered this series and I'm loving it.
Good work on playing the Next Generation theme backwards over the end review.
I loved the reverse theme music at the end. You guys are clever. 😉 My apologies for making a 70th comment under this video. I promise not to do that ever again. If only there were some way to reverse time itself. I know it's very easy. (pfft!) After all, any human worth their weight in gold-pressed Latium knows how to accomplish such a trivial feat and I am NOT dumb! Sadly, I lack the correct equipment to do such a thing. Peace! 😎🤘☮️
1:15 SO fun fact. That whole set was basically a bit of Budget embezzlement. DS9 had no budget left to build more sets, and they never did have the back of a Runabout made. So they used a bit of TNG's budget to make one, intending to give it to the DS9 team after... Only for DS9 to never use it and eventually switch to the Defaint.
That's Lyta Alexander. How can you guys not recognize her!!
So.. Riker was incharge, and expected on the bridge...
Great time to feed Data's cat...
Another very strict rating, this episode might be very off from the scientific point of view but still quite an entertaining piece of television, B!
Yes it has interesting character moments, and good pacing, it’s entertaining. I like it, even though I can see the flaws I don’t care.
They're aboard more than just a shuttlecraft, they're aboard a runabout...
I think this is the only episode where you see the rear quarters regardless of show, though I haven't watched completely through DS9 or Voyager in a very long time.
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 It is. Ironically they built it to basically soft-embezzle the remainder of TNG's set budget for DS9(Which was out of set budget) to recycle later. And then DS9 never used it.
Patricia Tallman also played Lyta in Babylon 5 :)
Decades later, when I was watching TENET, I immediately think of this episode and said "I've seen this scene of 'two groups of people who're from the opposite time directions acting in the same timeline' before!"
Funny as always...though this is one of my favorite TNG episodes
Great review, guys. Very funny. 😅 ♥
Par for the course. Even the worst TNG episodes yield some GREAT commentary!
I loved Data's relation in this episode when they are talking. Just reminds me so so much of Stan Laurel.
"Reaction" damn autocorrect.
Living in the TNG universe would drive an actual person completely insane. You'd never know what was real and what was a temporal anomaly and you'd live in constant terror of what disaster is certainly right around the next corner.
Tell me about it. There was this time I got caught up in a situation involving Morn, a Gorn, a packet of Flaming Wostits and a species that uses vowels in their language during a special screening of Metropolis. For some reason, I remember Ensign Gallagher being present and alive that day despite having been vaporised by a rogue starship captain last week.
Fun fact: they address the age difference between Picard's hands in S1 of Star Trek: Picard.
That would be ridiculous if true.
It's a fun high concept episode, but one has to roll with a lot. I'd put The Next Phase well above this onez as by season 6 TNG was stale. C-
The blu-ray was disappointing; Picard's smiley face has the same pattern but lacks the shadow detail the original had - perhaps deliberate, but the original had a little more depth. Superimposing the original over the new and set the layer to allow the original's brightness to override and the result is... the best of both worlds. 😏
12:33 it's not the TARDIS console from Doctor Who circa 1977! 😅
Nice reversal of the theme music at the end.
Funny, I said the same thing above. Right on the mark about "The Next Phase"
@@mikeluit3027 I'll look for it. It's fun to see differences between the original and remastered, but didn't expect the lack of shadowing. Maybe they thought it would be light bloom? Which would make sense, but it still looked a little off
Your theme tune backwards is briliant
Chekov's fruit makes zero sense: They'd just replicate it on demand instead of having some random bowl on the table. It's like the writers don't actually understand the Trek universe ... or, worse, they just don't care.
I thought the Romulan was just pretending to be frozen not just waking up .
very clever guys reversing the music at the end
I love the Reverse Angle on the TNG theme at the end.
Good review as usual. I find that these episodes like other "time/phase" episodes can be tricky and get rather overdone or needlessly complex. This one, I believe, falls into another category altogether; stale. D+ seems about right.
The concept was flawed a bit from the get-go. When most of the episode you have people and things set up in still form, you really are relying on the performance of your active members. This means it's even more on a limited few, i.e. fewer props and character interactions. Introducing some new (and interesting) characters early on in this episode might have played off better, but as the episode played out I found it a little tedious and the conclusion hurried.
Another episode with this time/phase concept, but played out much better, is Season 5 Episode 24 "The Next Phase". Instead of this episode, where all the characters are basically mannequins, Geordi and Ro are invisible and get to see what others say and do around them. We get their narrative, sort of speak. Thus, in that episode, they still have all their props and interactions to help the main actors (and audience) along.
A tiny black hole is theorized to give off exceptional power as Hawking radiation. It's actually one of the most scientifically grounded technologies in Trek.
Black holes are one of the potential ways we create long-lasting reactors for ships if it turns out FTL isn't possible. You wouldn't capture them or anything, you'd make small ones in factories with gamma lasers.
There was just a little green globule on the warp core. Authorities said... best leave it... unsolved.
When it came to people not noticing/caring about the protagonists when time moved forward, I my brain immediately justified it as everyone being far more concerned with the fact that their ships are about to explode over the fact that there are some Star fleet officers are on the ship probably helping them.
Help, I'm being sucked into a back hole.
Alas, Romulan engines will be my undoing!
Not much forward thought was put into the writing.
Now if only we had an FTL engine that ran on puns.
the thing that bugs me about this episode, is why did Geordi see the not romulin, wouldnt Data have processed that change quicker?
Did you know everything moves at the speed of light on the time axis of space time? So now take that and couple with what we know (suspect) that gravity will tear people into shreds around black hole, and that’s what’s suppose to happen to people with body parts in different times. (Did you also know that once past the event horizon, what draws objects into black hole is not gravity but time-you’re no longer moving towards singularity in any of the space axises but in the time axis?)
You guys are so lucky. You had done a disastrous job on the review and were losing subscribers! So I recalibrated my smart phone flip flapper and restarted your review after giving you subliminal priming.
Now it's another review based on a comedic premise.
Always worth to watch the warp core breach smiley episode.
When Picard first enters the rotten fruit room you can see the long nails already on his hand.
I'm not a space guy, but wouldn't having artificial black holes powering every Romulan ship mean catastrophic consequences whenever they are damaged or destroyed?
Oh nice catch on that technique. I never noticed that before.
You could power a ship with black hole, just small enough, so its hawking radiation would be sufficiently strong. Its bascically form of battery if you are able to create one. However, here they simply open the hatch and look at it, which is stupid.
barbara tallman was also a telepath in B5
i don't know why they are always climbing jefferies tubes. the schematics show stairwells through out the ship
Black hole powerplants/engines are a real concept though beyond current tech if it's even possible to create and sustain one. Look up Kugelblitz black holes. I think Isaac Arthur has a video about them on his UA-cam channel as well.
Had fun watching as always.
one of my fav eps.
The Music at the end while they talk is running backwards lol
There would not even be light, as light would not move, So it would be 100% dark.
The way Star Trek characters handle phasers shows an appalling disregard for proper gun safety. Throwing the phaser like that is insanely stupid, especially since we know the trigger is a simple button on the top that Dr Crusher could have easily accidentally touched. Just count the number of times they point phasers at things and people they would NOT want to shoot. Even worse, the standard phaser holsters have the business end of the phaser pointed toward the carrier's own body.
But how much damage can one phaser really do?
It would be interesting to see a TNG spin off, where every episode takes place in an alternate reality version of it's corresponding episode, but where they don't solve the crisis their in, and die.
Ooooooh! I want to love it, but isn't that what we kind of got with Picard? Not super-loving that one.
So, I'm the only one who enjoy Timescape episode?
FYI, you have an audio issue towards the end of the video.
I always thought the Romulan ship just cloaked at the end.
This was a cool episode, but as you point out it did have a few more odd parts than most.
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Heghlu’meH QaQ jajvam, wo’ batlhvaD! _Qapla’!_ …nuqDaq ‘oH tach’e’?
(Universal translator, _for honourless, non-Klingon pan’SieS:_ “Today is a good day to die, for the Empire! _Success!_ …Where’s the bar?”)
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If you ignore all the stuff that doesn't make sense I think the first four acts are pretty good.
Rather than C- I give it an A-------
So, Troi sits there and talks about a situation where she got sexually harassed, but they all laugh at the 'inter-species mating' "punchline". Today, that would be a HR nightmare.
While you may have liked the casual scene, I found it jarring. They were all off character to some degree and Stewart was clearly mailing this scene in or at least doing improv. It was clearly time filler too, maybe because they didn't write a B plot and running time was too short?
This is a high concept episode that didn't get much thought put into it. I liked the mini black hole idea, the adult aliens though were very meh villains. The Temporal Narcosis scene is there to set stakes for the crew, but it falls flat due to SFX limitations at the time. It should have been left out.
I think a D+ is fair here, this is TNG on autopilot. If this was season 1 or 2 I would be more charitable, but by S6 they were struggling, evidently, to pump out 26 good scripts per season. It's too bad, they probably spent a lot on the effects in post just to lay this 💣
You didn't recognize Patricia Tallman from Babylon 5? You guys need to watch more quality Sci-Fi lol.
"flim-flam-postulator"
This season has been a sad drag.
do u really expect a show staged in the future to make sense?
Stuart needs nail polish. 💅
Babylon 5 actress in 2 episodes now
:)
This is just silly.
Wasn’t as bad…?? I really wish u guys would stop reviewing shows you claim to enjoy but knit-pick to a point which is disappointing to those of us willing to suspend our disbelief. Just annoying and dumb.
The DIY laugh track is what drove me away two minutes in.
Enjoying your videos very much. A shame the new Picard wasn't like this Star Trek,instead of the new stuff we got.
6:38 and Babylon 5!