Inside Rajneeshpuram - Town Hall | November 28, 1982 | KATU In The Archives
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- Shot on location at the Rajneeshpuram ranch in Oregon, Jack Faust hosts a discussion with leaders of Rajneeshpuram, citizens of Antelope, Oregon, and leaders around the state.
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Awesome highly talented people, I wish this community were together for many more years
This community created fear in the hearts of those who want to rule.
Their example could draw followers as it was working for all parts of the human being - body soul heart.
Something very similar has been started in germany 90 years ago and the same things happened - just on a bigger scale..............
@@user-er1wo8ke9o any movement for welfare or benefit of people ANYWHERE in the world gets attacked...look what happened at waco with branch dividians run by david koresh they were firebombed and all murdered by government (ATF)..all their little kids too...the ingrained ignorance & corruption and greed built up over generations is very stubborn and powerful to shut down anything that would threaten what they are all about..
basically usually the darkness and negativity wins on this planet...it is much easier to tear down and destroy than it is to build something special...look what happened in thailand...PM thaksin creating many jobs and open the nation up to much business and higher quality of life for thais and loved by the people yet ousted in a coup by military controlled by thai elites wanting thais to remain poor and farmers and stay down so they can keep their advantage and their power and keep hoards of rich foreigners out...look what happened with trump in U.S..doing a great job as prez and attacked by elite run media all the time and now even being prosecuted to be possibly jailed...there are no limits to what the darkness will do to remain valid...for goodness to overcome it must be more brutal and terrible than the darkness and that is not the nature of good...there's a saying somewhere "if you want peace prepare for war"...and.this is what rajbeeshis did...they did some poisoning and other sabotage because they were driven to using extreme means to make their project work...is it possible that a project for the greater good can employ terrorist methods and coersion and sabotage and blackmail to advance their cause? why not? this is how the darkness plays and wins..playing dirty...the clear and clean needs to play harder and rougher and dirtier to gain the victory...it would be nice to let go and have peace but sometimes we need to fight because there are evil people preventing us from having even the small degree of peace or love or cooperation we have
@@user-er1wo8ke9ospot on Zeig Bhagwan 😡💩💩💩💩💩
?? It is all gone.
Yup, it's all a christian youth camp now😂
Although am an Indian and love Osho ,I think that whatever bad that happened there was just because of sheela's over inflated ego. I feel sorry for her that she despite of living with Enlighten Master didn't get his message of love, Humility and Kindness.
He has to bear a lot of the responsibility, though, don't you think? He was the head of the whole community. People were only there because of him. And he put Sheela in charge (below himself).
The ‘Hollywood Goons’ were the primary driving force that fractured Rajneeshpuram driving it into disintegration. Sheela was fucking great at her job. Yes it inflated her ego yet when she was happy there were few conflicts, those that caused any systemic demise…which those idiots from California eventually created & caused
@@BushyHairedStranger But ultimately, a great deal of the responsibility _has_ to be on Bhagwan: _he_ was in-charge, everyone was there cos of _him,_ he was the Godman.
Osho was full aware of what Sheela did. Because it brought attention and that is what Osho wanted. He did not care for anything else. All he wanted is for his message to get worlwide. And he did it! Controversy attracts people, the rebelious ones, the ones that Osho thought are more inclined to start searching for meditation.
Osho used those people. But also, those people used him as a God or an amulet for their own comfort and egos.
The game was kind of fair.
@@MetalGearChris1 USED word is cruel for Osho's commune, this word may be fits well organised religions like Christianity etc.,
This was a genius idea, well ahead of its time, it gave salvage to people, attracted a diverse group of professionals and they built and made things happen, kudos to you.
Attorney General of America during press conference after deportation of Osho said we did not find anything adverse against Osho. We simply wanted deport Osho n destroy Rajneeshpuram we succeeded
Slavery is forced, people who followed him did that out of love
In other words, they recruited brainwashed college graduates and they fell for it. To win an election they bussed in homeless people from all over the country and after they voted they just dumped the homeless. Does any of this sound familiar to what’s going on today?
Way ahead of its time..
What a smashing historical documentary. The whole debate is basically about land use on this planet. The land use and its development that we have been accustomed to is basically inconsiderate of ecological factors, human growth, animal welfare etc. The development of Rajneeshpuram should have been better supported by state government after all, these people were not impoverished hippies squatting on prime land - they were willing to pay their way and had interesting ideas for a new form of human settlement. Beats being nuked.
Disgusting government everywhere
My main takeaway: Jack Faust did an AMAZING job of moderating!! Congrats to him!
Rajneesh should have built his own country on some island and set some example for world to see with their own laws, rules etc. I cant fathom the dedicated group of individuals he had in his commune.
Don't this shows like escapism?
you mean free sex and intoxication stuff like that
from what?@@Vedicmusic1953
yet he couldve never been able to create something better than the almighty , what almighty has created is already perfect , i.e. our world
my eyes r glued to sheela. as a clinical psychologist - she is a very interesting personality/character
How?
@@marciestoddard730a sociopath
from a clinical psychologist's perspective, how would you describe her personality?
deranged @@ehaaron
Dicen que sheela es una sociopata...yo escuché a sheela y dice mucha contradicciones y que no tiene sentido..yo a sheela no la veo una revelde ...el d revelde que habla Osho..más bien la veo demente con personalidad posesiba y agresiva ..de hecho Osho mismo dijo en un video que sheela no le interesaba la meditacion..que cuando llegaba el momento de meditar ella disparaba de algún modo y se dormía...la verdad Osho es un ser humano y el nosé espero realmente lo que era ella..lo malvada que era
Well done' every one very well behaved debate. Intelligent people. God bless All of you. ❤❤❤❤
0:00 The aggressive reaction of Sheela towards this lady says enough. I mean talk about love and peace. Jesus. This Sheela is just way too aggressive. Scary. Almost like one of those feminists who cannot control their anger...
She was the reason for the defamation of osho or rajneesh. She had little to do with meditation
wooooow soooo nice to see OSHO people, I was a part in Pune. lovely
A lot of people are enlightenmened today those connected with osho.....His mission is going on forever.His discipl keep his mission today to....Pranam Osho
This is all developed due to the concentration shifted again from heart to mind. Man to society. To go into the heart to go in the world. What is wrong with the world unless wrong in the mind. Sit in your locality and go deep into your heart. No need for a seperate colony. This is like going to other planets for peace when the peace overflowing from within. The world is fine when the heart is joyful
Glad to know someone who can understand this 🌼
bright eyes, happy face, that is what we don't have for the today's society.
you forget infalted ego that looks down upon others.
i have come to one conclusion, it was osho's responsibiitly to see sheela was fit for the job or not, and she was definitely not fit for the job. osho must share the blame. he appointed her and she destroyed the whole commune.
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The conservative Christians were so offended to see such happy people
ofcourse. but the osho sannyasins and particularly sheela were too imposing. they were not at all co-operative.
I lived in Oregon when this was going on and these people were just a bunch of well indoctrinated useful idiots as per socialist ideals. People like to gloss over the crimes they did and even today the followers are going through therapy for the insane things they did to each other. You don’t remember when they bussed in a LOT of homeless people from around the country just to vote in an upcoming election and once they were finished with them they dumped them. Liberalism/socialism is just another religious cult, nothing more.
I was so glad when they finally busted this group up and stopped terrorizing the communities around them. I consider those people trapped in a way of thinking and if you don’t agree with them or their ideals, they attack you any way possible.
being intelligent is not same as being good intended
Exactly, if you read the comments though you would think these people were wonderful...
Wonderful video, I would like more.Instead of showcasing values, attracting Oregon people for some transformation making an empire attracting rich people of the world could not end long.Religion is not a threat to meditation.
OSHO has experimented a New form of democracratic system for a New Man, and New Society for which we are looking for from thousands of years!
It's His success story'!
Bullshit..your coward guru was pleading not to be arrested towards the end..begged..like a criminal
It's a failure
Hmm. The experiment. petrified. lol
It will sustain in the end.. when we give up selfish desires and start sharing love
That's why it still lives in the hearts today. Am I wrong?
Love you so much vedio creators
First city in usa without kiling natuve indians
Sheela is embarrassing aggressive.
Nothing here is done is ordinary- that summarizes it all up.
I love Osho very very much
Spirituality just means to overcome the habit of exaggeration, attachments, blindly following the social norms. It wants u to empty ur mind, only have ur few limited goals, practise patience, self-sufficiency, focus on skill development and self-improvement to live with peace, joy and dignity.
Thank God they got these people out of Oregon...
i wonder what corner of the universe they were from and how they made themselves look so human
the indian girl too tense
A lesson about how good ideas at the wrong time/place/way are not good ideas.
Interesting talk,,,,,,,thanks
Here we are in 2024 looking back to what was sold as a new way of life to many people, many of whom were very intelligent but were just preyed on by a self ordained God. He wasn't the first and wont be the last. I guess we're all looking for something in life and to be accepted within our community.
Yeah. Adi Da group was like that - - and many newer ones. Leaders or higher ups in the group get carried away with their power & influence over the weaker-minded members of the flock. Scandals ensue! Often sexual ones! "T'was ever thus." 😱😜🤪🤣
Osho misused his knowledge, he was well read but not enlightened. He used hypnosis, much like Sheela is in this video.. See her stony, staring eyes. It's a trick. They were both egotistic, controlling, and intoxicated by money and power.
Dude so true
100%
Sheela yes but osho never, u can see an innocence in his eyes, not like Sheela greedy lady wanted Osho place
“Jesus saves mosses invests and the Osho spends” ❤❤❤
Our Jésus land is raciste.
Now its a young life camp on the Washington Family Ranch.
burns
People left their jobs their careers and families and many committed suicide or gone crazy Their money went to buy 100 rolls royce for a maniac. This all drama lead to a great blunder.
DONT BECOME A BLIND FOLLOWER OF ANYBODY!
It is the main stream ordinaries unable to understand the extra ordinary. My love and empathy for you. Enlightenment has high prices.
There was no smart handphone and internet in 1982. Those people were human? Ananda Sheela was pretty. But she is an old woman now
🙏 future society's 💯🎯 outside corperate rule..
The Rajneeshpuram was very good people they did nothing wrong.
Peoples have good visions!!!
You can see the evil in those dark, dark eyes of hers.
How? Because they are dark dark? What kind of evil do you mean?
Lol..religious nincompoop I assume?
Go to India and you will find the devils homeland hahaha
You need spectacles... Or get another pair if you already have
Cultural differences between American and Indian society led to discord. In India, ashrams have a totally different dimension and acceptability in society. Whereas the cult system is something which is looked upon as suspicious in the western world.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜prabhu ke saare pyare sanyasi🙏prabhu ke pyare chote se bachhe jaise pyare 💜sundar bhole bhaale
At one time, we all will be living without borders and sharing things in common.
Let's hope not! That is against human nature. Elementary Cultural Anthropology 101 emphasizes and celebrates that humans have always naturally, intuitively formed a many distinct unique groups with strong enriching & bonding cultural identities. That's how diverse human art, science, engineering, architecture, etc. etc. etc. happens. "Globalism" is merely a (recent) intellectual construct ... one which is antithetical to the natural organic cultural human condition.
1000 Friends of Oregon did a hell of a job in the end...
I was a little later on the ranch, and spent the time of my life.
These kind of discussions were not part of my life.
Hearing the moderator, I must admit, that he really tried, unbiased, to let each party make their point.
An old video : interesting . More should be posted
If they had continued the commune central Oregon county would have flourished. But, the neigboring envious ranchers just pushed this commune to ground. The counter aggresive actions taken by the commune leader also led to its demise.
The Churches sided with the ranchers behind closed doors. And the law would side with the Churches. Once they captured him and pass him through 12 jails, imagine what he might have gone through.
America of today would not allow a community like Rajneeshpuram to exist and Sheela would have never been allowed out out of prison for a long time...she got off too easy for all the criminal shenanigens she pulled off!
Hippies were rare species. They tried everything.
Omg that fur coat. No. Nah. Uh uh! Hahahahha
I wish the commune was still there. If it was I will be living there for sure.
What is Amol Palekar (Golmaal movie) doing in the thumbnail...? 🤔
❤❤❤sheela ki buraaiyo ko sabne dekha 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜sheela ke bhagwaan ke saath kaam karne ke majboot hosle ko kisi ne nahi dekha
This was very eye opening. The ego in oshos people was extrem. No awakening there
❤ 💜💜💜💜💜🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏sheela ki to aavaaz bhi prabhu ki hi tarha kitni nasheeli hai
Just imagine if you had your community and way of life encroached upon. They claimed to want to live in harmony but didn't take any effort to make harmony with the people who were already in that region...then they started terrorizing the community! Then they brought homeless people from all over the country and when they couldn't control their addictions and mental illness they just kicked them out into the surrounding community to deal with. Not one apology to those people in Oregon. How appallling!
Idk it seems like they moved in next door and immediately were hounded by their so-called Christian neighbours from day one. Their hotel got BOMBED by those so-called Christian neighbours. Now tell me how most Americans would respond to such terror attacks. I'm a pacifist but it's a bit hypocritical to call them out for defending themselves if you're not - apart from Sheela they were way more restrained than most Americans would be. They didn't bomb any hotel. It's also hypocritical to call them out for not being able to deal with the homeless people (actually a lot of the homeless people did stay and were helped) but if American society was any better, how come those homeless people were homeless in the first place? No love shown to them from anyone else.
The people who were already in the region..also kicked out people who were there before them.. native Americans
@@marciestoddard730So we can say by this cyclical nature, everybody in that area was trash to begin with, so no more sympathies for anyone there, including those antelope small towners. And I have used your logic on this one.
If I was there at that time, I would have taught you what love is KATU
Who was funding all this construction? What was the source of income for Rajneesh?
great bhagwan shree rajneesh
❤🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💜💜💜💜💜💜prabhu ke krishan dev naam diye sanyasi ke chehre par prabhu ki kitni divyata hai
and the fraud and fraudists fell apart in utter confusion and distress....and oh by the way...the money is still missing ...
Sheela ruined a spiritual revolution
does anyone else remember that sheela and vidya went to prison for a long time? i thought i was googling about 10 years ago and saw they were still incarcerated. anyone else remember that?
I remember when the followers went to The Dalles Oregon and poisoned the salad bars in restaurants. I live about 25 miles west of The Dalles.
Indonesian here...love osho
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46:48 Sing to Shut down the opposition the town hall 😆😂
Bhagwan ने पृथ्वी में स्वर्ग उतार दिया इसी कारण अमेरिकी ईर्ष्या जलन का शिकार हुआ
It shows the weakness to maintain the inner peace all the time. At least this should be like a institution. No student desires to live in the college life long. He must utilise his effeciences collected in the college in the society. He must try to change the society by his inner peace and light than to shift himself go away from our dear cohabitants
I love Osho, but damn Sheela and his flock of laughing hyenas in that hall meeting are not doing any favors for the claims that the Osho commune was not a cult lol. Text book cult behaviour from these people and their selfish takeover of the town without any regard for the locals. People love to blame Sheela for everything, but she was Osho's right hand in the world, appointed by himself.
Can u tell how old this video
@rejuvanator8966 you make absolutely no sense weirdo🤦🏽♂️
one thing i noticed of rajnessheees. they just laugh at anything and everything. Gosh. its good to laugh. but c'mon. give speeech it's context.
Beautiful people and their dreams destroyed
Well they might be beautiful, but a lot of them did ugly things. This is not what a real enlightened person would condone
Colonizer mentality will never understand the concept of a beloved community
Son of east and father of west
❤
I'ld tell ever single one of those people judging ranch to go to Hell
Hi sheela
Osho let Sheela turn into a tyrant. Neither were good leaders.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂saari duniya ke sabse ameer sanyasiyo ke🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 sabse ameer saty sadguru💜💜💜💜💜💜💜bhagwaan shri🙏rajneesh
America actually gave up the new opportunity because of its ego
They both had too much egos. Would've never worked
Parallel society is not desirable. We have to shine with our inner peace moving in this same old society
Wrong
This Sheela is a very disturbing and aggressive person. She shed such a shadow on the OSHO movement.
OSHO was awesome!
popuation of 600, 0% crime rate, rapid growth. imagine if the people left them alone, theyre doing gods work. the whole point was Oshos teachings, they fell on deaf ears.
In india eurovilles is a city where the majority is foreigners.
A group of really happy people hated by capitalism
Hi rajneesh puram❤
See what fear can do. Not because they didn't understand. But because they didn't want to. The town of analope. A hole in the wall to this very day. It's chance of prosperity long gone. And kind of what they deserve.
This sheela women is responsible for oshos death
She used to give osho slow poison until he died
Don't know why she did that, maybe because of money,fame or absolute control over ashram, she was definitely not alone in this
There was some American connection also
Jai
Thats our land ✌🏽
Sheela gives me the creeps. Her eyes are the eyes of a sociopath.
Communication was not there strong suit
Confused?..............Isn't Swami Krishna Deva a Krishna given name ? Wouldn't Krishna Consciousness be completely agianst a religion based on freedom in sexaulity and no marriage with many partners, and abortion to prevent unwanted pregnancy? I actaully am asking this question knowing the answer to my question but a bit perplexed why said Swami Krishna Deva would be using that spiritaul name and a follower of OSHO?
We need more sheela in our soceity. She is really awesome💗💗💗
Study about her doings.
Do some research homework ...
She did some pretty shitty stuff bro
Are you silly!, it´s alsmot 2024 wake up. Sheela did too many horrible things, even Osho recognize it.
There is a whole forensic files episode about what Sheela and her people did. Its called bio-terror attack. Watch it before praising this woman!
Don't drink the kool-aid
Who killed him, Reagan or the zealots?
Sheela is the law!!!🇮🇳
Sheelaw..🤣
😊
Sheela was little dumb..
Sheela ka podcast dekha apne . 😂
No black folks..Hmm..Interesting
Shiela looks like Amol Parolekar
BALAJIs Network state equivalent of 60s USA