The next step for Robot would be reading the flaws in the DNA of fetuses to see if they have a disposition towards criminality or violence, and eliminating them before they "become a threat". Immortal was always right about Rex.
And thus the problem with Rex. He lets his paranoia control him causing him to push people who weren’t going to be a threat to him, towards being his enemy.
and the thing is, he probably could get more people on his side if his first act wasn't sending Mark through a portal, cutting off Atom Eve's leg, killing Cecil and many others right at the start. But his paranoia and lack of compassion got the best of him
I think it was a mistake of him, but he was pretty right, Mark was never gonna let him make earth a better place in peace, Mark's short sighted view wouldn't allow it.
You know what I like about this? It feels like a natural conclusion to Robot's arc. Yes he did good for Earth and ushered in an age of peace and prosperity the world had never seen before. But his rule had a couple of fatal flaws: it was run by one man, and that man was not as impartial and good at reading people as he thought he was. Why has Mark definitively turned against him at this juncture? Because Robot felt he could predict that Mark would turn against and "struck first." But in doing so, he alienated Mark and his allies once and for all. Mark could have been swayed by the people of Earth to let Robot continue his rule. Mark hates Robot and what he did, but even he had to admit that what Robot did was good and that stayed his hand before. And that's the problem: Robot can't fully predict what Mark would do. Because at this point, he doesn't know Mark as well as he used to. He doesn't "know" what Mark will do. And I think that scares him, on some level. And it all could have been avoided if Robot had just trusted Mark. Think about it. A big part of why Mark doesn't trust Robot is because he attacked him and Eve, which left Eve crippled. And Robot attacked them along with the other heroes/Cecil was because they were factors that would have "gotten in the way." Or more appropriately, they were factors Robot couldn't control. The very seeds of Robot's downfall were planted by his need for control and his inability to fully trust people. He could have had it all if he just learned to trust a little earlier. And in the end it got him right back where he started.
I half agree, It is a natural progression of Rex Robots ark but not it’s full conclusion. I thought the same thing when he acted first but then I thought of why exactly he did that and what changed from his time in the Flaxxan world leader as He was good leader and wasn’t as brutal then. He liberated the oppressed and enslaved, then refused to execute the zaxel royal family even though it would’ve been better for everyone. He even freed them on Amanda council, So what happened? The answer as to why I think he had this drastic turn was that He was betrayed and it made him rethink his own way of things going forward. He showed mercy and tolerance to a group of ppl who refused to change from their imperialist life style and even after centuries just bid their time and rose up to overthrow him and undo all his progress on a peaceful way of life for the flaxxans and worse yet his greatest love, the sole person who was his anchor to his humanity Amanda ignorantly helped them and betrayed him in every way possible. I feel like that traumatic experience of having everything he once cherished and valued destroyed right in front of him in such a way that made him question everything he once believed in. It taught him that some ppl won’t change and might be potential threats down the line and by showing them mercy you’re just leaving a ticking time bomb. The zaxels proved to Rex that no matter how peaceful and inactive you are sooner or later the malcontent will find a reason to come after you so it’s better to strike first. What Amanda’s betrayal proved to Rex was that superhero’s are very limited in their world view. They by nature only keep the status quo and keep the world from progress. They can’t see the bigger picture and only see what appears as the right thing in the present. Amanda only saw the zaxels present predicament and wrongly sided with them against Rex only to be betrayed later when they tried to go right back to conquest and had to break Rex back out to fix her mistake. It showed Rex that while coming from a good place Superheroes will do more harm in the long without proper guidances. I feel like rex was deeply hurt and traumatized by what Amanda and the zaxels did and it turned him into the hardened emotionless man he became. It lead him to cut out his heart and emotions and focus solely on logic when he changed earth . He was right about everything in the end but he was disheartened from trusting his emotions and holding back this time around. I think he fell victim to the comic book trope of “going to far” where a “villain” is right and has objectively good goals but is antagonized by the writers by making him go “too far” and provoke a fight with the “good guys” and is defeated. I would’ve liked if Robert & Cole broke free of these tropes and explored a more unique kind of ending that doesn’t reset everything and discards all the societal issues the “villain” brought up. They went half way with this and had mark keep Rex’s government and just installed his own dictator immortal in his place. Or at the very least I would’ve like it if had Amanda’s admit her fault in turning Rex cold and helped him work through his grief and reopen his heart in a reconciliation. It would’ve been a better conclusion of both their arks in learning from their mistakes and forgiving each other’s betrayal.
@@BlackSteelKeyChain An interesting take, but there are a few key things. Yes, his turn in the Flaxian dimension did make him more emotionally distant, but his difficulty in trusting other people did not start there. Even in the Flaxian dimension, he had difficulty letting go of control and trusting the council of others, which is what led him and Monster Girl to become distant and her turning on him in the first place. Her turning on him was a mistake and ultimately misguided, but it was not a decision sprung entirely out of the moment. The fact is that Robot always had trust issues, and the trauma of the betrayal simply entrenched it. And while he and Monster Girl should have worked out there feelings sooner, Robot forfeited his right to reconciliation the moment he tried to kill her by venting her into space. If he wanted to, he could have had her killed quickly and painlessly but instead he decided to have her killed in a way that is a very agonizing way to die. And you can argue that he did what he did so the viltrumiates could save her, but there was a strong chance that she would have died anyway and it would not have been clean. And that's the main thrust of Robot's story. No matter how much good you do, there is always a line that when crossed means that people cannot trust you anymore. And Robot crossed that line many times with many people. By his actions in this issue, he proved that he himself can no longer trust people, and that makes him a liability to the safety and wellbeing of others. There does come a point where a man cannot be saved, not because of their actions but because they simply do not have the strength themselves to become better people. And as tragic as it is you need to accept it and find the next best solution. Which is ultimately what Mark did. What's interesting is that Robot and Omni-man are in many ways similar characters. Both set out to essentially conquer Earth in order to make it "better," and did so by eliminating those that would stand in their way. However at there cores, I'd say key difference between the two is self reflection. Nolan took time to reflect on his actions, who he was, what he'd done to the people he cared about, and how he could reconcile who he was with who he wanted to be. Robot never had the personal strength to truly, truly look at himself. And on some level I think he never truly believed he was worthy of salvation. And that is why Nolan got a redemption arc but Robot never did. In the end, the final step to salvation is the ability to work beyond yourself.
@@hfar_in_the_sky again I only somewhat agree. No he wasn’t always like that, his turn away from his humanity started in the Flaxxan world as his whole story was about slowly becoming more human and less robotic. He was calculating and closed off at first but not untrusting of his friends. They made him want to live outside his tube and grow as a person. But it was Amanda’s betrayal that reversed it and lead to his turn, she was his greatest proprietor of goodness and anchor to his new found and increasing humanity. She inspired him to live as a real person and be good and her complete and unwarranted betrayal traumatically broke something in him as infidelity tends to do(trust me). The proof in this is how Amanda exactly described that feeling to monax when she fully processed Rex’s betrayal. Something broke inside her and changed her, b/c that kind of betrayal can turn even the best of ppl cruel if not handled correctly. Amanda had an emotional support group to help deal with her pain but Rex didn’t and from his breaking was forged something cold calculating and at times cruel. No, Amanda’s betrayal was completely on her and I can’t fully describe how frustrating it is seeing the comic follow the Hollywood trend of blaming the betrayed partner for what the cheater does. No, no one “pushed her into zall’s arms” or made her betray Rex as he wasn’t in the wrong for how he ruled. All his failings came from bias sources, the zaxels who hated him for taking away their power so of course they’ll have every reason to distort reality to fit their narrative. Rex’s liberated the planet and slave lower classes and it rule was peaceful, yes there were growing plains in becoming independent from other worlds but it was slowly improving. He had elections, and yes he also listened to outside advise from Amanda and his allies. It was objectively better and more free than under the zaxels. The zaxels status where a direct result of their actions and refusal to covert to Rex new peaceful flaxxan way. They manipulated Amanda into wrongfully betraying and almost ruining all the good work they achieved for the world. It frustrates me seeing monax a child raised by basically exiled nazi’s to be a conquering warlord that revered all peaceful flaxxan way of life be suddenly converted to a “good guy” simply through Rex’s actions that were justified and his convenient turn into a greater villain. He and the zaxels weren’t ever the good guy ever and shouldn’t be. No one forces anyone to betray someone, it’s a choice 100% on their fault. In comparison Mark and Eve’s relationship hit many difficult times that were caused solely by Mark being an asshole and even directly antagonized and pushed Eve away yet she never betrayed him. She was objectively spent more time away from mark at times than Amanda was from Rex and yet she never once made a “mistake because she was lonely”. Amanda betrayed because she was self centered and immature and all the damage it caused is completely on her. Any problems they had should’ve been worked out themselves or she should of just left the relationship before hurting Her partner. But Amanda chose to ignorantly betray and hurt Rex for misguided,selfish, and heartless reasons and she should be held accountable for. She forfeited any right she had to complain about strains on their relationship when she stabbed him him in back to his enemies. As a survivor of infidelity myself I can say that Amanda ticked everyone single box of a toxic emotionally manipulative partner that let her immaturity and selfishness ruin not only her relationship but Rex’s entire outlook on emotions. She betrayed, downplayed it by calling it a “single mistake” and then acted entitled to Rex forgiveness and even got made when he didn’t just let it go and forgive her. The whole way she was insensitive to the emotional damage she inflicted and never once blamed herself for her bad choices. She showed all the signs of a cheater who doesn’t truly regret her “mistake” and will only ever blame others for her toxicity. Reading this was almost painful how she treated him. No, Rex wasn’t cynical in his attacks. He went out of his way for quick clean surgical strikes that killed ppl quickly like with with that headshot to knockout. He wanted the viltrumites to find Amanda, if he wanted her dead he would’ve killed her when he retrieved her from them. He only killed those he felt he had to and consistently showed much remorse for it. Which brings up the point of him being fully capable of redemption. He showed self reflection and regret all throughout the series from his time in the Flaxxan world when he blamed himself for Amanda’s (which wasn’t his fault as I’ve stated) betrayal and sought to improve himself, which failed due to a lack of healthy support on Amanda’s end. It’s not just Nolan’s actions and his subsequent forgiveness that’s inconsistent when compared to Rex’s ending, it’s most characters. Mark’s entire ending mirrored Rex’s in the Flaxxan world, but becoming a emperor to force his ideals of peace onto a war like people alongside his his wife. But now impose what happened fo Rex onto Mark. Imagine if a group of viltrumites even centuries later still refuse his peaceful ideals and rebels later on with the help of Eve and he’s imprisoned. Imagine the pain of that experience pushing him over the edge and he becomes more militant to counter those dissenters. But the comic paints him as the bad guy for taking those understandable hard lines approaches. That’s Rex entire story from another perspective, yet is treated differently b/c he gets a happy ending. The proof in this being the case is that is Mark recognized Rex’s way as being right, he just didn’t trust Rex personally and with installed someone else with a better moral compass (immortal) in his place. But in the end Mark agree with most of Rex’s methods just his cold nature due to his damaged heart. The end result being that Rex wasn’t wrong just lost and failed by his friends to help him re open his heart. Instead e/o just used him as scapegoat to absolve everyone else questionable status as “good guys” like with Sinclair, Monax,Mark,Nolan, Levi, and especially Amanda. Rex was the bigger “bag guy” and thus made downgraded everyone else’s grey area status. Amanda wasn’t held accountable for her actions so she didn’t learn from them and wasn’t able to recognize the painful feelings she felt in being betrayed was exactly what she put Rex went through and thus failed to use that newfound understanding to help Rex overcome his grief and find peace between each other in true forgiveness. Rex was more than capable of changing, all they needed was time but the comics rushed the ending and left robot holding the bag with The “bad guy” label even though he was objectively more remorseful and open to forgiveness than any other anti hero who got forgiven. I agree that Rex went off the deep end but what I don’t like is the writers not acknowledging the clear reasons for his turn and give him the opportunity to work through them to a better ending for all. The options were there they just didn’t do it. Instead we have a bitter Amanda refusing to give Rex the same forgiveness he gave her for doing the exact same thing she did in the first place, and Rex being stuck in his grief and refusal to open back up his heart. They character arks were left hanging open and unresolved. Which is why I’m rooting for the series to fix a lot of these lose ends and more than possible avenues.
@@BlackSteelKeyChain Ah, but that's the thing. You say that Rex could have redeemed himself if he had time, but as you also said he never had his trust issues dealt with. The latter is the issue, he never had his trust issues dealt with and frankly he never had impeditive to do so. Up until the end, he had no reason to believe he needed to change. He brought peace to the world. Many of the heroes who fought against eventually came to see his perspective. He was right all along so why would he need to change? And that's what led him to believe that turning on Mark and the Villtrumiates was a the best course of action, because as far as he was concerned his life experience had taught him that trusting others only led to failure. By that point he could not be saved, because that type of person can only change if they're willing to accept it. And you are correct about betrayal. Very rarely is a person forced to betray another. It always comes with a motivation, such as Robot's initial turning on the rest of the heroes and his hostile takeover of the world was motivated by his genuine belief that that was the most humane way to achieve world peace. That fit with who he is and what his ideas were. But if we're going to look at Rex's motivation with a even hand, we need to look at Amanda's betrayal as well. Was it the wrong choice? Ultimately. Was it unmotivated based on her personality and experience. No. If you reread the parts of the comic where Rex and Amanda in the Flaxian dimension, you can see it happening as the years go by: Rex slowly becoming more totalitarian in his thinking while also dismissing Amanda's point of view time and time again. Now put yourself in Amanda's shoes. You're a hero. You have sacrificed literal years of your life for the sake of saving people. You are now in a dimension fighting alongside a person of towering intellect and capability and the two of you free an entire people from an oppressive tyrant. But then as time goes by, your partner is slowly becoming, in your eyes, the new oppressive tyrant. You try to talk to them, convince them maybe there's another way. How do they respond? "You're being naive. It has to be this way." And then they shut down the conversation. All of a sudden you start to feel less like a partner and more like a subordinate to someone walking a very dangerous path. Someone with the possibility to become the worse dictator the universe has ever seen if they're not stopped. So, in the heat of a moment you decide to stop them. And that's the thing, Amanda wasn't entirely wrong. Her betrayal is what entrenched his belief that he was the only one that could fix everything, but those personality traits were always there. They were developing in ways that ultimately led him down the path to where he is in this issue ever since the beginning. Rex became a tyrant, and while benevolent at first it was very easy to see that power turn. And that power turned because Robot believed he could not trust anyone, a very dangerous fatal flaw for someone with that much power. He could have reached out a hand to Mark, met as equals, and come to an understanding. But he didn't, I'd argue because he didn't want to be at the mercy of anyone ever again because the last time he was left a lasting trauma. Which you can understand, but by that token you can also understand why Robot probably never would have changed. At that point in his character arc, it simply wasn't possible because of his beliefs and his personality. People like Robot, you can understand where they come from. You can sympathise with them and wish for all the world that things had been better for them. But other people cannot save them. At a certain point, a person needs to recognize the need to change themself or else they never will. Robot is a prime example of this. You can and should sympathise with where he's coming from, but that does not change that at this point he is pretty much beyond salvation in the conventional sense. It's incredibly tragic, but it is understandable. Sadly
Robot's greatest flaw was thinking of Mark as still being the young hero who left Earth to raise his family. He doesn't understand how much Mark has been changed by his travels. As such, he didn't realize that Mark can now make the hard choices. Must have been a real heartbreaker.
He also made the decision really easy for him. Robot kept trying to argue that all the good he did vastly made up for the bad. By his own logic making Robot an eternal brain slave might be evil but it makes up for it with all the good it does for the world.
tbf he did recognize mark's "evolution" with dinosaurus and his potential as a world leader. He was just likely afraid of being replaced and/or contested by Mark, as he sorta figured out he was a leader in the making. while old robot would have likely conceded their "throne" to Mark, "Rex" was just to far gone to give it up... willingly at least
I think there is the insinuation that Robot didn't want to continue going down this road and potentially wanted to lose. As a brain, Rex noted he was afraid of what he was becoming, what he would do in the name of logic. He thought his approach was the best way, but he realized the problems with this approach. Even in the battle, he avoided harming the families even though I think he realized Mark's goals in separating him and the drones. Rex was a bit of an enigma, both noting the good he did and also the potential darker routes he may go in the future. Even in the end, he had a real discussion with Mark to discuss his thoughts and accomplishments, he didn't try to attack or anything. He certainly wasn't going all out in the fight.
Rex was loosing control he turned the entire viltranite empire against him when mark may of been willing to let it go due to the help he gave him with Thragg had rex released his hostages as soon as it was done it would of went better for him. But how could he see thraggs children being completely subservient to mark so quick hell Allen didn't even get involved and that's at least another 3 viltranite worth it piwer
I love Mark's trips through alternate dimensions remained relevant until the end. He knew Immortal wasn't mentally strong enough to just be "a good ruler until the end of time" because of his previous encounter with AU Immortal. His plan to keep Robot alive covered nearly every base that it needed to.
It's not actually an alternate universe Immortal, it's the very Immortal from Mark's universe's future, so he knew for sure that his Immortal wasn't mentally strong enough to deal with ruling a whole world.
@@kreischenderdepp113the timeline is an alternate one though, because it is a future that will no longer come to pass, now that the time travellers went back in time to alter the events of the past.
@@YaBoiKuma No, he was Lincoln. In a much earlier issue, after he comes back to life, he tells someone (I can't remember who) he still feels bad about what happened to John Wilkes Booth because he _technically_ didn't kill him.
@@arizonaranger2333Yes you are my friend. Mark in the middle of the series when he was still weak tanked nuke point blank. That nuke turned vegas to dust and pure glass. He was standing there as if nothing happened
@@qrimsonrex7836 I think it's some fucked up Viltrumite idea of love that she had. That kid is fairly old at this point, so she definitely named him after Mark when she was still "into" him. At least she came to understand the grave sin she committed against him. There's really no forgiving it, per say, but there's learning and becoming better; which is what I think was the whole point for the Viltrumites.
14:25 The total horror of being spotted by an individual that can tank other beings capable of tearing planets by their lonesome is just oh so good. PS: Also its nice to see Thula having two kids already under her belt. That's the reason why she fights.
It's a really small thing, but I wish they'd shown Sinclair helping in this fight. He can be seen at 7:45 in a mech suit but that's the only time you ever see it. It was really cool to see his progression from evil mad scientist to straight up betraying Robot to help save the Earth.
It’s pretty messed up that they only let him keep his brain, though. Surely he could’ve kept his body and stayed in a prison as long as the implants controlling his drones were taken away.
It’s not really enabling to suggest that somebody be allowed to keep their body. The Flaxans imprisoned him without issue once he couldn’t use his drones.
No he would'nt have not against hundreds of Vultrimites and with no allies left besides Zandale. Even if he won that battle Rex would have to battle insurgents for the rest of his his life.
Rex started to give up because no one understands his point of view and he thinks that with the superheroes that died because of him. He could’ve done so much better with them alive. Amanda is the one who really started this when she betrayed him, cheated on him and let him rot in prison for a majority of his life. But he still loves her.
@Master Chief 117 he snapped when he realized Amanda cheated on him and that was the last straw. He didn't have evil intent at first until all that happened. He was right about the royals too. Thousands of years on Flax and Amanda cheating on him broke him. I read all issues so ik why.
@@slickxigor1100 to Amanda defense of cheating (is still not cool tho) she was alone and desperate for company, she even say it was accident and she still love him more. But the rest I sort agreed from you
@@ballownfist3497 she could have easily just told him that she wanted him to interact with her more, or she could have broke it off. She basically took the worse option possible because her lack of impulse control and ended up causing robot to go off the deep end as a result
15:51 Okay for a solid second i thought they were going to look down and just see parts of the world getting nuked or something as a "fail safe" (incase he was beaten.), I thought his words were A LOT more sadistic in nature at first. Like "it's beautiful out here... Perfect angle to see the 'fireworks'."
@@Testosterooster in the end, conquering earth wasn't about logic for robot, not fully. For him it was all about ego, he wanted to be earths ruler and savior, no matter how many lives it took, the minute he started caring about how efficient his takeover would in terms of how many good heroes he had to kill or imprison or threaten because they would try to stop him, he lost before he even had truly begun, to his ego
Still suprised that Rex did'nt have a clone of himself made in secret and copied his mind into that clone and have a plan to revive that clone in the case of his defeat/demise. At this time he would most certainly have the technology to do that
@@excusezmoi9823 to be fair it was robots that arguably couldn't even take down immortal, and struggled def. couldn't take down invincible, So how do you think he'd compare to a whole army of angry (half breed) voltrimites that are either: 1. Half breeds that still are almost as strong as invincible 2. Pure blood which are MUCH stronger than invincible 3. A rallied/unified army all in one location (he probably couldn't call all his forces and were wide spread.) 4. Had people on the inside working against him, who could severely hinder him. 5. Pretty much controlled every robot remotely, which hindered him plenty of times before ( unless he used an ai now that... I forgot about.) 6. Him being VERY heavily unprepared, as this all happened between a 1 or 2 day time spand. (Keep in mind he had little to no clue there were other voltrimites out there and he pretty much assembled everything he had on the fly with no preparation from what we saw with the rocket launch.) So he was very vulnerable out there to. He was VERY much screwed from the start unless he created a force field that emitted that sound wave that neutralized them/around the entire Pentagon which the others could probably work around easily by like.. Sending in Allen to bust the place up with immortal and the other non - voltimites.
@@J_Lee712 Most likely two episodes to be realistic. Drawing out four more episode for the last fight for Earth's freedom AFTER the epic Thragg encounter and the brutal fight on the sun is too much.
It was a DLC but if you beat thragg in hard mode you get the: " sub can scratch my balls " passive ability who makes you a badass for the rest of your Life.
Robot really screwed up here. If he left Mark alone he would’ve probably decided that his rule was acceptable, due to him helping defeat Thragg. Even if he still opposed Robot he wouldn’t have many allies, because most other people would’ve still supported him (even the Viltrumites would’ve likely hesitated to fight him). By acting preemptively he gave Mark a reason to overthrow him, and gave him allies.
Mark has a habit of taking a strong initial stance but then being more reasonable once he’s cooled off. He didn’t like that Nolan sided with Robot, and definitely wouldn’t have been his friend, but I think that Mark would’ve realized that he would’ve been asking too much of the Viltrumites to have them risk themselves and their families by starting another war.
@@amurderofcrows3713 Mark is a hothead but he is not stupid. If robot does not make the first move Mark has no casus belli to start a war with him. There would be a lot of his own Vultrimites asking why he is starting a war with Rex especially since Rex did help Mark against Thragg. Mark could not start a war without undermining his own power.
Rex: "I need to attack Mark before he can attack me; it's the only way to be sure." Mark: * takes that personally * Rex: * surprised Pikachu face * It's funny because Rex took a remote possibility (Mark attacking him) and made it a certainty (by attacking Mark first).
@@giacomoromano8842 uh, not sure why you got so heated, but she definitely aint 1000. thragg started his army about 5 years ago if i recall correctly, and bug people age 100x, not 200x. shes at most like 20 in her age, so where did you get 1000?
He tends to show himself when trying to convince people so I think it was his attempt at reconnecting with monster girl because if she didn’t side with him he probably would’ve killed her. And he didn’t want that
Honestly, I always thought Nolan was being dumb for supporting Rex. People forget that no matter his results, Rex accomplished his goal by murdering his friends in broad daylight en masse. This means that he's driven by paranoia, and paranoid men are not as logical as they convince themselves of being. They'll become aggressive at anyone they PERCEIVE as a threat to their power. Outcome was inevitable, and if only Nolan didn't look down on earthlings so much, he could've helped sooner. Earthlings have dealt with dictators and fascists from all backgrounds for millenia. I think they know one when they see it. (sometimes lol)
"This means that he's driven by paranoia, and paranoid men are not as logical as they convince themselves of being." No, he anticpiated that his friends were naive, like you, and would continue opposing him to the detriment of the world. And since he had the means to prevent it, he did. I used to be like you, but Covid-19 cured me of my delusions that freedom is always better.
LMAO You see the megalomaniac murderer who stole a man's identity and body, who is ready to kill all his friends because ''They might intercede when I decide to commit tyrannical actions'' and really think ''This is a reasonable man who will help society in a better direction'' like Mark says, he might want to improve the situation but not because he wants to help, but because he wants control. He is by this point a thousand years old after being stuck in the other timeline and he broke down when one person cheated on him, he tried to regain control by controlling everyone in the universe, he killed his friends and was ready to summ the entire galaxy into a dictatorship (Because that was his plan, he doesn't want council since everyone is not to be trusted except for himself) In the end, even with all his platitudes the galaxy ends up all the better with great degrees of freedom thanks to Mark's rule because he chooses to take the arduous path of peace rather than compliance by threat. ''My delusion that freedom is always better'' Those are petty words from a scared spineless slug who would bend over to any petty tyrant for the promise to be unburdened by having to make their own decisions!
Mark chose his daughter over the entire universe. Robot chose the world over everyone who trusted him and that he was supposed to care about. That's what I love about the morality of this comic is that it's so personal. As the reader I don't care that the world was doing amazing under Rex's rule, I hate him for what he did to Shapesmith, Cecil, and of course Mark and his family. And I love Mark for caring so much for his daughter that even when given the opportunity to fix all of his mistakes and save all the people he failed he didn't even hesitate to make sure she existed. But Rex was willing to turn against everyone who believed in him and dumped the woman he was supposed to be in love with into cold space to accomplish his goal.
Robot gets to spend the rest of his life realizing that he never needed a body or the human experience to reach his full potential and that really sucks for him. As robotic as he always portrayed himself, it was his human desires that ultimately doomed him. My man's really did just fly to close to the son. What a tragic character, even if he dug his own grave.
11:30 me encanta esa escena, sin querer Mark le enseño a Ursal que lo que sentía por sus hermanos, esas emociones que los viltrumitas niegan, era las correctas y que Mark los guiará y no los usaría egoistamente.
I agree I like this very much to. Ursaal is just very happy that she is now working with and serving someone who is telling her to stay alive and keep her sibliings alive. Unlike Thragg who was readily willing to sacrfice and let his offspring die.
Honestly rex was almost in the right. he just lacked moral, which i guess is what got him so far. To have absolute power with no conscious is a dangerous thing to have
Best part is even Rex himself knew that. Like he legit understood why Mark was against him. Because while he has done so much good for the world his genius plus his lack of conscious means he really could end up coming up with logical reasons to do awful things.
@@invictus6176 The flaxaan invasion didn't shape how he thought about things. It only made how he turned out happen sooner. Being in mark's body? Who was a leader? Now he's a forced leader. So even quicker leadership role, but the same brain behind it. Remember that mark went into the past and had robot confirm how he would do things? Now that he's pure logic and doesn't have any reason to step down, remember he never really got to know monster girl there, he more than likely would be able to command even more efficiently being nearly indestructible, and in control of the viltrumites, and in control of most of the earth forces. Robot was ALWAYS that ruler on the inside.
@@kairu_aname Idk this Robot would have in the back of his mind that he does have an evil counter part and I don’t think he is as smart as the last robot. I mean he didn’t even think to make himself a body after all those year, and doesn’t have the same events play out for him that did turn him evil. In this universe he is forced to become a ruler rather than choosing too, and he has to look out for the Viltrumites and the people of earth.
You guys forget invincible was that robots best friend essentially by the time mark left.They spent 6 months TALKING. THAT robot is factually aware that he could become evil.Also with the knowledge that his corruption could lead to that hes actually great.Rexs mind and a slightly weaker mark due never getting the eve buff.
I don't really even like super hero or this kinda stuff but if it's all on your channel in a movie like fashion. I mean it's too good to pass up. I love you!
Now that I remember Invincible was once in the Future, 500 Hundred years at least in Earth and Inmortal was a Leader and wanted to die at all cost I guess that is Canon because He said Mark made him do it, just like it happens here
@@gwell2118 first of all, if mark didn't go to the future. Then robot would just be killed , but after he goes to the future, he renembered so he left robot brain alive so immortal won't get depressed
@@Masaru_koyama Thats assuming that universe isn't a closed loop. That future could only exist because Mark went to the future saw what happened and his actions led directly too that future. As nothing he's done so far has necessarily prevented it. The future went bad because Immortal lost his desire to live. Nothing implies having Rex with him would prevent that. And the future Immortal accurately predicted events that later happened in the series (he even outright mentioned that Mark left him in charge, like he did at the end of the series). And him going to the future in no way explains why he let Rex live, in fact Rex accuratley deduced its because Mark realized that Rex did make the earth better, nothing implies his future journey factored into that. So no nothing concretely proves that that future has been averted. Besides its not even that bad anyway, earth is still around and the crazy Immortal would be dealt with anyway.
@@gwell2118 do you have the slightest idea why immortal lost his desire to live? Because all of his friend perish away, having at least a genius brain to help can change everything, as idk, like suggesting a vacation? And let person he think is most fit in charge temporarily? One simple act from the past can change the whole future
Man, I've never had the chance to say that, but I think that's the right issue to bring about the fact that I love the design for Robot's suits. They are so cool and I love the fact that they changed their color, from orange to black, in order to convey the menace that Robot presents to the good guys.
He could, but he's never had to. He's always been able to command them all individually at the same time, and I think he prefers that kind of control. Autonomous drones would've been almost out of character.
For someone as smart as rex, he sure did plan out this assault on the viltrumites very poorly. None of his robots had those frequency machines to render them useless. Had his robots had those frequency devices, the vitrumites would've been powerless to stop him. But I'm glad he didn't think of that because he deserved this end result.
@@smalltrashman4227 its very badly written. Were talking about rex here. When has he ever trusted anyone to fight in his interests without having a dagger ready to slip in their back? Those frequency devices rendered invincible totally powerless every time they were used. Only times that frequency didn't work was when he was out of range of it and even so, those frequencies are deterrents against viltrumites. Rex could've done more but I really hate his character.
Okay I don't care how much good rex's has done in the world You don't go kidnapping innocent children That's just one line you don't cross. The family reunion at the end there was kind of heartwarming and also to see general kregg hugging his children speaking children Well I guess Mark didn't just miss 5 years of Terra life you also missed five years of marky life as well. I bet having to explain all this to him is going to be a little bit awkward?
There was no way Rex plan could ever have worked. What was he going to do keep the Vultrimite children hostage forever ? Because that is what he would have to do even if they delivered Mark to him. He also lost the support of those who reluctantly worked with him when he took children hostage. And on top of that he did'nt have a strategy for what to do if he was defeated. There where only two strategies that could have worked 1 devise a sneak attack that would wipe out the Vultrimites 2 Don't take the children hostage and try to convince Mark to leave the planet with the Vultrimites. Next to that he should have stashed a clone of him self somewhere secret and made a copy of his brain as a precaution in the case of defeat
13:50 of all the drones in this battle and his tactical genius Rex couldn't hold back his only tell. The only drone having body language showing regret; regret that He'll never truly know what love is.
Was looking for the aftermath of the thragg battle and this gets uploaded less than 24 hrs after having those thoughts. I rarely make sure I drop a like on each video but every video of yours I watch I will be dropping a like and maybe a comment. Thank you and keep it up!
Neither can Invincible.Viltrumites are pretty much immortal until they r killed by someone.Even Eve,as she can just deage herself whenever she's abt to die.Monster girl too,as she can use the side effects of her powers as an advantage.Basically,everyone with Viltrumite DNA is literally immortal now that no one is left to oppose their power.So yea,rest assured,Robot's gonna be trapped for good this time👍🏻
his brain will age and die ... he isnt immortal or long lived species, he lived as long as he did due to being in another dimension, on Earth he will age and die like any other human would. question is only how long it will take for the brain to degrade as its not limited by the other organs which is something that kills us rather than brain failure.
@@legendsofmichael4315 you shouldn't worry about robot. It's Immortal you have to worry about considering his future version became an insane tyrant trying to commit suicide by making people rebel against him by committing horrible things. But I'm not to sure about that future since it could been change by this events.
I liked seeing how everyone, including the heroes of Earth and the viltrumites, joined forces to overthrow Robot and save the viltrumites' children. Thragg believed you can accomplish anything when you recognize those lower than you are fodder to be used as you please. I say this is what you can accomplish when you accept others as your equals.
Does anyone know how strong the black robot suits are meant to be? The character says they are made of something like volcanic tempered titanium alloy but anymore then that....
Strong enough to handle being in the sun for a few seconds. Viltrumites in particular are vulnerable to them because they're supposedly made in such a way that, when they're hit, they vibrante at a frequency that damages viltrumites, since viltrumites are apparently vulnerable to sound
@@mervynlarrier9424 strength has no relation to melting point. Like tungsten, it’s the most heat resistant metal on the planet, but it’s about as brittle as pencil lead
Rex was a really good villain (in my opinion) because he actually didn't want to destroy the world or become all-powerful or get his hands on doomsday weapons like pretty much 95% of all typical villains. He actually improved the world with what he did, despite everyone he killed or burned bridges with. Which just goes to show that the heroes aren't always right. Although neither side was completely right or wrong.
Im always surprised Eve isn't more of a badass during this whole fight. The one time her powers can finally effect the oppenent directly (since she normally can't effective organic matter). She should be able to change these robots into harmless lumps of other material.
In the time travel issue where Mark has to kill immortal he says only one person left knows him by that name. But wouldn't Markus, and Molly too if she grew up to do hero stuff, know him as well? Monster girl is also basically immortal as well. Maybe it's a different timeline.
I know Robot is the bad guy here, but I just can't help but take some pride in the fact that a human was probably smarter than basically every scientist from every advanced alien race combined. Robot came up with weapons that could actually do something to Viltrumites. Besides the Scourge Virus and Alan the Alien, that's never been done before, by any alien species that the Viltrumites have conquered, and he did it by himself, unlike those other two examples which were accomplished through large group efforts. Also, I like the detail that the Immortal, who was once Abraham Lincoln, ultimately decided to retire to a log cabin. That feels right. I like that Kate is reading a biography of him, and also, I wonder, what regular name does the Immortal go by now? Is he still named Abraham Lincoln? And lastly, in that shot of all the heroes that Mark is talking to, next to Immortal... is that Blind Kenshi from Mortal Kombat?
Another thing about the virus and alan is that the virus was made by a viltrumite themselves to be so effective and alan took some large amount of time to be effective and rex ended up doing it in a short amount of time while making the armor strong enough to overpower most superheroes
I still feel like there's room narratively for Anissa to be slowly regenerating in the Coalition sickbay at this point... believed dead, hanging from a thread, but slowly returning.
Thats not entirely out of the realm of possibility the way the series ends actually leads you to believe theirs more to come by leaving a lot of loose ends this done to leave you wanting more but personally I think the robot thing has run its course if their ever is a serious revival or some form of continuation
@@clashoclan3371 I think they can still feel pain; it just takes a lot, despite it not doing any real damage. There was a point in Brit's own comic where he got nailed in the face by a powerful laser and remarked how strong it was.
Though a part of me is sad knowing what happened to robot and what is instored for him for what is the rest of his life another is relieved knowing that in another timeline we have another flying around in space getting to live out a better life
imo this was sort of a cliche way to get robot defeat, for as great as he was as a villain. would like to have that "gotcha moment" fleshed out in the series... and lets be real, monster girl didnt exactly "deserve" to be the world's savior after all shes done to rex's head either. he was a monster by that point, but she surely helped A LOT to push him off the edge.
18:00 if the show get this far then I hope they change this. The whole idea that the good guys would set up a superhero dictatorship and rule the world seems very villainous to me. It would be better for them to admit while robot had its advantages, it's downsides are to great. I also hate that this comic tries to paint his rule as benevolent and prosperous when in reality, it would be very unstable and corrupt.
Thats how it works in real life. Take United States for example. It is a wayyyy better off than countries like Zimbabwe or Mozambique. But the sacrifices made to get there (im not talking about ww2 deaths or no cookie cutter shit like that) were str8 up evil. US literally committed genocide against native americans, They built their "land of the free" by enslaving africans and have them build shit for them. America created the goddamn Atom bomb for christsake. And if ur gonna say we had to nuke hiroshima and nagasaki to win the war ur proving my point
Well it’s not a fascist dictatorship anymore, seems more of an advisory board with governmental powers. IMo they should set up an election, I honestly think Robot/Immortal would win based on his track record. His rule was never painted as benevolent either idk where that came from, only prosperous because he got results.
Rex is the greatest multitasker in this series, the fact that each of the robots is controlled remotely and splits his vision is astonishing
Remember when they went to that alian planet and lived there for so long bout hundreds of years? Yeah he got experience and growth at the same time
@@zegolem3607 hey brother, how are you doing
@@ranfonaforanafo1601 ah a fellow cultured individual
@@zegolem3607 Not to mention he has a neural implant
@@infectorofpeople2926 that aswell.
The next step for Robot would be reading the flaws in the DNA of fetuses to see if they have a disposition towards criminality or violence, and eliminating them before they "become a threat". Immortal was always right about Rex.
Thats rather too close to (psycho-pass)
@@minimhlk7254 I was about to say lmao. Like, bro really just accidentally made Psycho-Pass lmao
@@minimhlk7254 I was thinking Gattaca, totally forgot about (psycho-pass)!
But Rex is also right. He did make earth a better place
What if I told you psycho pass fans that there is an older movie about that exact plot staring tom cruise
And thus the problem with Rex.
He lets his paranoia control him causing him to push people who weren’t going to be a threat to him, towards being his enemy.
Sounds like Joseph stalin
and the thing is, he probably could get more people on his side if his first act wasn't sending Mark through a portal, cutting off Atom Eve's leg, killing Cecil and many others right at the start. But his paranoia and lack of compassion got the best of him
@@clashoclan3371 Well Stalin was pretty much always a power hungry control freak asshole.
Robot's fall was a little more...gradual.
I think it was a mistake of him, but he was pretty right, Mark was never gonna let him make earth a better place in peace, Mark's short sighted view wouldn't allow it.
@@adrianbunea2006 mark let him run earth for years
Allen is the best counter for robot, he is as strong as a viltrumite, extremely durable, and doesn't have a weakness in his ear.
Yeah
Until Robot just flashbangs him
like 50 times
How is he gonna find Rudy tho lol
@@RecoveringLoLAddict lol true. Or kicks him down under.
Isn't he like a mutant of his species too?
His eye is his weakness
You know what I like about this? It feels like a natural conclusion to Robot's arc. Yes he did good for Earth and ushered in an age of peace and prosperity the world had never seen before. But his rule had a couple of fatal flaws: it was run by one man, and that man was not as impartial and good at reading people as he thought he was.
Why has Mark definitively turned against him at this juncture? Because Robot felt he could predict that Mark would turn against and "struck first." But in doing so, he alienated Mark and his allies once and for all. Mark could have been swayed by the people of Earth to let Robot continue his rule. Mark hates Robot and what he did, but even he had to admit that what Robot did was good and that stayed his hand before.
And that's the problem: Robot can't fully predict what Mark would do. Because at this point, he doesn't know Mark as well as he used to. He doesn't "know" what Mark will do. And I think that scares him, on some level.
And it all could have been avoided if Robot had just trusted Mark.
Think about it. A big part of why Mark doesn't trust Robot is because he attacked him and Eve, which left Eve crippled. And Robot attacked them along with the other heroes/Cecil was because they were factors that would have "gotten in the way." Or more appropriately, they were factors Robot couldn't control.
The very seeds of Robot's downfall were planted by his need for control and his inability to fully trust people. He could have had it all if he just learned to trust a little earlier. And in the end it got him right back where he started.
EXCELLENT breakdown, it literally makes sense of how robot truly thinks of mark
I half agree, It is a natural progression of Rex Robots ark but not it’s full conclusion. I thought the same thing when he acted first but then I thought of why exactly he did that and what changed from his time in the Flaxxan world leader as He was good leader and wasn’t as brutal then. He liberated the oppressed and enslaved, then refused to execute the zaxel royal family even though it would’ve been better for everyone. He even freed them on Amanda council, So what happened? The answer as to why I think he had this drastic turn was that He was betrayed and it made him rethink his own way of things going forward. He showed mercy and tolerance to a group of ppl who refused to change from their imperialist life style and even after centuries just bid their time and rose up to overthrow him and undo all his progress on a peaceful way of life for the flaxxans and worse yet his greatest love, the sole person who was his anchor to his humanity Amanda ignorantly helped them and betrayed him in every way possible.
I feel like that traumatic experience of having everything he once cherished and valued destroyed right in front of him in such a way that made him question everything he once believed in. It taught him that some ppl won’t change and might be potential threats down the line and by showing them mercy you’re just leaving a ticking time bomb. The zaxels proved to Rex that no matter how peaceful and inactive you are sooner or later the malcontent will find a reason to come after you so it’s better to strike first. What Amanda’s betrayal proved to Rex was that superhero’s are very limited in their world view. They by nature only keep the status quo and keep the world from progress. They can’t see the bigger picture and only see what appears as the right thing in the present. Amanda only saw the zaxels present predicament and wrongly sided with them against Rex only to be betrayed later when they tried to go right back to conquest and had to break Rex back out to fix her mistake. It showed Rex that while coming from a good place Superheroes will do more harm in the long without proper guidances.
I feel like rex was deeply hurt and traumatized by what Amanda and the zaxels did and it turned him into the hardened emotionless man he became. It lead him to cut out his heart and emotions and focus solely on logic when he changed earth . He was right about everything in the end but he was disheartened from trusting his emotions and holding back this time around. I think he fell victim to the comic book trope of “going to far” where a “villain” is right and has objectively good goals but is antagonized by the writers by making him go “too far” and provoke a fight with the “good guys” and is defeated. I would’ve liked if Robert & Cole broke free of these tropes and explored a more unique kind of ending that doesn’t reset everything and discards all the societal issues the “villain” brought up.
They went half way with this and had mark keep Rex’s government and just installed his own dictator immortal in his place. Or at the very least I would’ve like it if had Amanda’s admit her fault in turning Rex cold and helped him work through his grief and reopen his heart in a reconciliation. It would’ve been a better conclusion of both their arks in learning from their mistakes and forgiving each other’s betrayal.
@@BlackSteelKeyChain An interesting take, but there are a few key things. Yes, his turn in the Flaxian dimension did make him more emotionally distant, but his difficulty in trusting other people did not start there. Even in the Flaxian dimension, he had difficulty letting go of control and trusting the council of others, which is what led him and Monster Girl to become distant and her turning on him in the first place. Her turning on him was a mistake and ultimately misguided, but it was not a decision sprung entirely out of the moment.
The fact is that Robot always had trust issues, and the trauma of the betrayal simply entrenched it. And while he and Monster Girl should have worked out there feelings sooner, Robot forfeited his right to reconciliation the moment he tried to kill her by venting her into space. If he wanted to, he could have had her killed quickly and painlessly but instead he decided to have her killed in a way that is a very agonizing way to die. And you can argue that he did what he did so the viltrumiates could save her, but there was a strong chance that she would have died anyway and it would not have been clean.
And that's the main thrust of Robot's story. No matter how much good you do, there is always a line that when crossed means that people cannot trust you anymore. And Robot crossed that line many times with many people. By his actions in this issue, he proved that he himself can no longer trust people, and that makes him a liability to the safety and wellbeing of others. There does come a point where a man cannot be saved, not because of their actions but because they simply do not have the strength themselves to become better people. And as tragic as it is you need to accept it and find the next best solution. Which is ultimately what Mark did.
What's interesting is that Robot and Omni-man are in many ways similar characters. Both set out to essentially conquer Earth in order to make it "better," and did so by eliminating those that would stand in their way. However at there cores, I'd say key difference between the two is self reflection. Nolan took time to reflect on his actions, who he was, what he'd done to the people he cared about, and how he could reconcile who he was with who he wanted to be. Robot never had the personal strength to truly, truly look at himself. And on some level I think he never truly believed he was worthy of salvation. And that is why Nolan got a redemption arc but Robot never did. In the end, the final step to salvation is the ability to work beyond yourself.
@@hfar_in_the_sky again I only somewhat agree. No he wasn’t always like that, his turn away from his humanity started in the Flaxxan world as his whole story was about slowly becoming more human and less robotic. He was calculating and closed off at first but not untrusting of his friends. They made him want to live outside his tube and grow as a person. But it was Amanda’s betrayal that reversed it and lead to his turn, she was his greatest proprietor of goodness and anchor to his new found and increasing humanity. She inspired him to live as a real person and be good and her complete and unwarranted betrayal traumatically broke something in him as infidelity tends to do(trust me). The proof in this is how Amanda exactly described that feeling to monax when she fully processed Rex’s betrayal. Something broke inside her and changed her, b/c that kind of betrayal can turn even the best of ppl cruel if not handled correctly. Amanda had an emotional support group to help deal with her pain but Rex didn’t and from his breaking was forged something cold calculating and at times cruel.
No, Amanda’s betrayal was completely on her and I can’t fully describe how frustrating it is seeing the comic follow the Hollywood trend of blaming the betrayed partner for what the cheater does. No, no one “pushed her into zall’s arms” or made her betray Rex as he wasn’t in the wrong for how he ruled. All his failings came from bias sources, the zaxels who hated him for taking away their power so of course they’ll have every reason to distort reality to fit their narrative. Rex’s liberated the planet and slave lower classes and it rule was peaceful, yes there were growing plains in becoming independent from other worlds but it was slowly improving. He had elections, and yes he also listened to outside advise from Amanda and his allies. It was objectively better and more free than under the zaxels. The zaxels status where a direct result of their actions and refusal to covert to Rex new peaceful flaxxan way. They manipulated Amanda into wrongfully betraying and almost ruining all the good work they achieved for the world. It frustrates me seeing monax a child raised by basically exiled nazi’s to be a conquering warlord that revered all peaceful flaxxan way of life be suddenly converted to a “good guy” simply through Rex’s actions that were justified and his convenient turn into a greater villain. He and the zaxels weren’t ever the good guy ever and shouldn’t be.
No one forces anyone to betray someone, it’s a choice 100% on their fault. In comparison Mark and Eve’s relationship hit many difficult times that were caused solely by Mark being an asshole and even directly antagonized and pushed Eve away yet she never betrayed him. She was objectively spent more time away from mark at times than Amanda was from Rex and yet she never once made a “mistake because she was lonely”. Amanda betrayed because she was self centered and immature and all the damage it caused is completely on her. Any problems they had should’ve been worked out themselves or she should of just left the relationship before hurting Her partner. But Amanda chose to ignorantly betray and hurt Rex for misguided,selfish, and heartless reasons and she should be held accountable for. She forfeited any right she had to complain about strains on their relationship when she stabbed him him in back to his enemies. As a survivor of infidelity myself I can say that Amanda ticked everyone single box of a toxic emotionally manipulative partner that let her immaturity and selfishness ruin not only her relationship but Rex’s entire outlook on emotions. She betrayed, downplayed it by calling it a “single mistake” and then acted entitled to Rex forgiveness and even got made when he didn’t just let it go and forgive her. The whole way she was insensitive to the emotional damage she inflicted and never once blamed herself for her bad choices. She showed all the signs of a cheater who doesn’t truly regret her “mistake” and will only ever blame others for her toxicity. Reading this was almost painful how she treated him.
No, Rex wasn’t cynical in his attacks. He went out of his way for quick clean surgical strikes that killed ppl quickly like with with that headshot to knockout. He wanted the viltrumites to find Amanda, if he wanted her dead he would’ve killed her when he retrieved her from them. He only killed those he felt he had to and consistently showed much remorse for it. Which brings up the point of him being fully capable of redemption. He showed self reflection and regret all throughout the series from his time in the Flaxxan world when he blamed himself for Amanda’s (which wasn’t his fault as I’ve stated) betrayal and sought to improve himself, which failed due to a lack of healthy support on Amanda’s end.
It’s not just Nolan’s actions and his subsequent forgiveness that’s inconsistent when compared to Rex’s ending, it’s most characters. Mark’s entire ending mirrored Rex’s in the Flaxxan world, but becoming a emperor to force his ideals of peace onto a war like people alongside his his wife. But now impose what happened fo Rex onto Mark. Imagine if a group of viltrumites even centuries later still refuse his peaceful ideals and rebels later on with the help of Eve and he’s imprisoned. Imagine the pain of that experience pushing him over the edge and he becomes more militant to counter those dissenters. But the comic paints him as the bad guy for taking those understandable hard lines approaches. That’s Rex entire story from another perspective, yet is treated differently b/c he gets a happy ending. The proof in this being the case is that is Mark recognized Rex’s way as being right, he just didn’t trust Rex personally and with installed someone else with a better moral compass (immortal) in his place. But in the end Mark agree with most of Rex’s methods just his cold nature due to his damaged heart. The end result being that Rex wasn’t wrong just lost and failed by his friends to help him re open his heart. Instead e/o just used him as scapegoat to absolve everyone else questionable status as “good guys” like with Sinclair, Monax,Mark,Nolan, Levi, and especially Amanda. Rex was the bigger “bag guy” and thus made downgraded everyone else’s grey area status.
Amanda wasn’t held accountable for her actions so she didn’t learn from them and wasn’t able to recognize the painful feelings she felt in being betrayed was exactly what she put Rex went through and thus failed to use that newfound understanding to help Rex overcome his grief and find peace between each other in true forgiveness. Rex was more than capable of changing, all they needed was time but the comics rushed the ending and left robot holding the bag with The “bad guy” label even though he was objectively more remorseful and open to forgiveness than any other anti hero who got forgiven. I agree that Rex went off the deep end but what I don’t like is the writers not acknowledging the clear reasons for his turn and give him the opportunity to work through them to a better ending for all. The options were there they just didn’t do it. Instead we have a bitter Amanda refusing to give Rex the same forgiveness he gave her for doing the exact same thing she did in the first place, and Rex being stuck in his grief and refusal to open back up his heart. They character arks were left hanging open and unresolved. Which is why I’m rooting for the series to fix a lot of these lose ends and more than possible avenues.
@@BlackSteelKeyChain Ah, but that's the thing. You say that Rex could have redeemed himself if he had time, but as you also said he never had his trust issues dealt with. The latter is the issue, he never had his trust issues dealt with and frankly he never had impeditive to do so. Up until the end, he had no reason to believe he needed to change. He brought peace to the world. Many of the heroes who fought against eventually came to see his perspective. He was right all along so why would he need to change? And that's what led him to believe that turning on Mark and the Villtrumiates was a the best course of action, because as far as he was concerned his life experience had taught him that trusting others only led to failure. By that point he could not be saved, because that type of person can only change if they're willing to accept it.
And you are correct about betrayal. Very rarely is a person forced to betray another. It always comes with a motivation, such as Robot's initial turning on the rest of the heroes and his hostile takeover of the world was motivated by his genuine belief that that was the most humane way to achieve world peace. That fit with who he is and what his ideas were. But if we're going to look at Rex's motivation with a even hand, we need to look at Amanda's betrayal as well. Was it the wrong choice? Ultimately. Was it unmotivated based on her personality and experience. No. If you reread the parts of the comic where Rex and Amanda in the Flaxian dimension, you can see it happening as the years go by: Rex slowly becoming more totalitarian in his thinking while also dismissing Amanda's point of view time and time again.
Now put yourself in Amanda's shoes. You're a hero. You have sacrificed literal years of your life for the sake of saving people. You are now in a dimension fighting alongside a person of towering intellect and capability and the two of you free an entire people from an oppressive tyrant. But then as time goes by, your partner is slowly becoming, in your eyes, the new oppressive tyrant. You try to talk to them, convince them maybe there's another way. How do they respond? "You're being naive. It has to be this way." And then they shut down the conversation. All of a sudden you start to feel less like a partner and more like a subordinate to someone walking a very dangerous path.
Someone with the possibility to become the worse dictator the universe has ever seen if they're not stopped. So, in the heat of a moment you decide to stop them.
And that's the thing, Amanda wasn't entirely wrong. Her betrayal is what entrenched his belief that he was the only one that could fix everything, but those personality traits were always there. They were developing in ways that ultimately led him down the path to where he is in this issue ever since the beginning. Rex became a tyrant, and while benevolent at first it was very easy to see that power turn. And that power turned because Robot believed he could not trust anyone, a very dangerous fatal flaw for someone with that much power.
He could have reached out a hand to Mark, met as equals, and come to an understanding. But he didn't, I'd argue because he didn't want to be at the mercy of anyone ever again because the last time he was left a lasting trauma. Which you can understand, but by that token you can also understand why Robot probably never would have changed. At that point in his character arc, it simply wasn't possible because of his beliefs and his personality.
People like Robot, you can understand where they come from. You can sympathise with them and wish for all the world that things had been better for them. But other people cannot save them. At a certain point, a person needs to recognize the need to change themself or else they never will. Robot is a prime example of this. You can and should sympathise with where he's coming from, but that does not change that at this point he is pretty much beyond salvation in the conventional sense. It's incredibly tragic, but it is understandable. Sadly
Robot's greatest flaw was thinking of Mark as still being the young hero who left Earth to raise his family. He doesn't understand how much Mark has been changed by his travels. As such, he didn't realize that Mark can now make the hard choices. Must have been a real heartbreaker.
I see what you did there....
He also made the decision really easy for him. Robot kept trying to argue that all the good he did vastly made up for the bad. By his own logic making Robot an eternal brain slave might be evil but it makes up for it with all the good it does for the world.
tbf he did recognize mark's "evolution" with dinosaurus and his potential as a world leader. He was just likely afraid of being replaced and/or contested by Mark, as he sorta figured out he was a leader in the making.
while old robot would have likely conceded their "throne" to Mark, "Rex" was just to far gone to give it up... willingly at least
I think there is the insinuation that Robot didn't want to continue going down this road and potentially wanted to lose. As a brain, Rex noted he was afraid of what he was becoming, what he would do in the name of logic. He thought his approach was the best way, but he realized the problems with this approach. Even in the battle, he avoided harming the families even though I think he realized Mark's goals in separating him and the drones. Rex was a bit of an enigma, both noting the good he did and also the potential darker routes he may go in the future. Even in the end, he had a real discussion with Mark to discuss his thoughts and accomplishments, he didn't try to attack or anything. He certainly wasn't going all out in the fight.
Rex already lived through thousand years with monster girl .
Time made him become a tyrant
I wish he had just erased both of their memory's of their time there when they left.
Damn... These tyrants and... **Checks cards** their way of improving alien and human societies, ending wars, crime, starvation, plagues, cancer etc.
Rex was loosing control he turned the entire viltranite empire against him when mark may of been willing to let it go due to the help he gave him with Thragg had rex released his hostages as soon as it was done it would of went better for him. But how could he see thraggs children being completely subservient to mark so quick hell Allen didn't even get involved and that's at least another 3 viltranite worth it piwer
@@adrianbunea2006 yea that’s easy when no one opposed you since there all in jail or dead
@@calmgoodfire4662 Anyone opposed to everyone's wellbeing deserves to be in jail or dead, because they're evil.
I love Mark's trips through alternate dimensions remained relevant until the end.
He knew Immortal wasn't mentally strong enough to just be "a good ruler until the end of time" because of his previous encounter with AU Immortal.
His plan to keep Robot alive covered nearly every base that it needed to.
It's not actually an alternate universe Immortal, it's the very Immortal from Mark's universe's future, so he knew for sure that his Immortal wasn't mentally strong enough to deal with ruling a whole world.
@@kreischenderdepp113the timeline is an alternate one though, because it is a future that will no longer come to pass, now that the time travellers went back in time to alter the events of the past.
mark truly embraced a bit of cecil by the end
@@runtergerutscht4401Actually robert kirkman confirmed that robot drives immortal insane, leading to that exact reality
@@Krishnachoppara wait really? Damn
"Because I'm empty, Mark."
Dammit, this is gut-wrenching.
Nice 👍
5:31 Kate reading a book written about one of her husband's past lives is actually pretty funny
i thought he was the assassin rather than lincoln
@@YaBoiKuma No, he was Lincoln. In a much earlier issue, after he comes back to life, he tells someone (I can't remember who) he still feels bad about what happened to John Wilkes Booth because he _technically_ didn't kill him.
@@alessandragonzales8190 He tells that to Mark and Eve when they went to visit him and Dupli-Kate in their house. It was in Issue 79 i think
which is weird because he has invulnerability. how the hell did a bullet kill him.
@@lucasalvarado1193 Thanks, it's been a long time since I've done a whole readthrough so I can't place things exactly anymore.
Monster Girl really is the MVP this time. If she hadn't figured out which one was the real Robot in time, he would have won
I was expecting it to be a trick, and when Mark flew it into space it ended up actually just being a nuke in the suit.
@@JT-gi8rxIt would have been a good trick too but all it would have done was slow down Mark
@@JamarD421yeah, a nuke can give viltrumites a nosebleed at best right? I might be wrong about that though.
@@arizonaranger2333Yes you are my friend. Mark in the middle of the series when he was still weak tanked nuke point blank. That nuke turned vegas to dust and pure glass. He was standing there as if nothing happened
@@Kbax3614 oh wow ok then
still can’t get over the fact that she didn’t even try to get creative lol just added a y marky
I think it's disrespectful. She forced herself on him and had the audacity to name the kid after him
@@qrimsonrex7836 I think it's some fucked up Viltrumite idea of love that she had. That kid is fairly old at this point, so she definitely named him after Mark when she was still "into" him. At least she came to understand the grave sin she committed against him. There's really no forgiving it, per say, but there's learning and becoming better; which is what I think was the whole point for the Viltrumites.
Anissa out here making it really hard to find the child's father
@@runtergerutscht4401
His dad came back from getting cigarettes!
Well later they told us that his real name is Markus, but still isnt very creative
So glad I wasn’t the only trying find how Rex went from helping against thragg to brain in jar
He went full circle. From a human trapped within his own body in a jar, to a healthy human, to a brain trapped in a jar
@@runtergerutscht4401
From jar to jar.
Quite jarring
@@kairu_aname his father must have been jar jar binks
The series started with him living his whole life in a jar, to continuing to live his whole life in a jar in the end
@@runtergerutscht4401 yeah considering how deformed his original body was
14:25
The total horror of being spotted by an individual that can tank other beings capable of tearing planets by their lonesome is just oh so good.
PS: Also its nice to see Thula having two kids already under her belt. That's the reason why she fights.
It's a really small thing, but I wish they'd shown Sinclair helping in this fight. He can be seen at 7:45 in a mech suit but that's the only time you ever see it. It was really cool to see his progression from evil mad scientist to straight up betraying Robot to help save the Earth.
17:04
Mark: "No sorry, I had you on space mute, what were you saying again?"
8:48 the moment mark took control of the OG viltrumites.
Despite everything, I still feel a little sorry for Rex. But I suppose lacking that was his problem all along.
Rex is rightfully a top A (or S, depending on how you rank stuff) villain, under all accounts of the short version of the term.
Nah, fuck Rex. He killed n betrayed all his friends
It’s pretty messed up that they only let him keep his brain, though. Surely he could’ve kept his body and stayed in a prison as long as the implants controlling his drones were taken away.
@@carlbates9110 Stop enabling assholes. He belongs as a brain in a jar and says so himself.
It’s not really enabling to suggest that somebody be allowed to keep their body. The Flaxans imprisoned him without issue once he couldn’t use his drones.
He started in a jar now he's back in one lol but this time he's far worse than before now he has no body 😂
Honestly that might be better than his decrepit baby body being in constant pain and agony
@@ericmilesdavid1321 yeah I forgot about that yep your right
@Ronald dayum
Well the Mauler Twins got there Indirect Revenge
Rex could have easily won that if he didn't reveal himself to monster girl and didn't hesitate to kill. But I guess he got what he deserved.
No he would'nt have not against hundreds of Vultrimites and with no allies left besides Zandale.
Even if he won that battle Rex would have to battle insurgents for the rest of his his life.
Rex started to give up because no one understands his point of view and he thinks that with the superheroes that died because of him. He could’ve done so much better with them alive. Amanda is the one who really started this when she betrayed him, cheated on him and let him rot in prison for a majority of his life. But he still loves her.
@Master Chief 117 he snapped when he realized Amanda cheated on him and that was the last straw. He didn't have evil intent at first until all that happened. He was right about the royals too. Thousands of years on Flax and Amanda cheating on him broke him. I read all issues so ik why.
@@slickxigor1100 to Amanda defense of cheating (is still not cool tho) she was alone and desperate for company, she even say it was accident and she still love him more. But the rest I sort agreed from you
@@ballownfist3497 she could have easily just told him that she wanted him to interact with her more, or she could have broke it off. She basically took the worse option possible because her lack of impulse control and ended up causing robot to go off the deep end as a result
I love how this mimics the first fight but now we're on the breaching side
Sorry... Which fight?
15:51
Okay for a solid second i thought they were going to look down and just see parts of the world getting nuked or something as a "fail safe" (incase he was beaten.), I thought his words were A LOT more sadistic in nature at first.
Like "it's beautiful out here... Perfect angle to see the 'fireworks'."
That doesn't seem very logical for him to do but i get what you mean
@@Testosterooster in the end, conquering earth wasn't about logic for robot, not fully. For him it was all about ego, he wanted to be earths ruler and savior, no matter how many lives it took, the minute he started caring about how efficient his takeover would in terms of how many good heroes he had to kill or imprison or threaten because they would try to stop him, he lost before he even had truly begun, to his ego
I honestly think robot went out way too easily.
Still suprised that Rex did'nt have a clone of himself made in secret and copied his mind into that clone and have a plan to revive that clone in the case of his defeat/demise.
At this time he would most certainly have the technology to do that
@@excusezmoi9823 to be fair it was robots that arguably couldn't even take down immortal, and struggled def. couldn't take down invincible,
So how do you think he'd compare to a whole army of angry (half breed) voltrimites that are either:
1. Half breeds that still are almost as strong as invincible
2. Pure blood which are MUCH stronger than invincible
3. A rallied/unified army all in one location (he probably couldn't call all his forces and were wide spread.)
4. Had people on the inside working against him, who could severely hinder him.
5. Pretty much controlled every robot remotely, which hindered him plenty of times before ( unless he used an ai now that... I forgot about.)
6. Him being VERY heavily unprepared, as this all happened between a 1 or 2 day time spand. (Keep in mind he had little to no clue there were other voltrimites out there and he pretty much assembled everything he had on the fly with no preparation from what we saw with the rocket launch.) So he was very vulnerable out there to.
He was VERY much screwed from the start unless he created a force field that emitted that sound wave that neutralized them/around the entire Pentagon which the others could probably work around easily by like.. Sending in Allen to bust the place up with immortal and the other non - voltimites.
I was not expecting this war to be resolved so quickly. But I feel it was wrapped up rather well within the short span of time it had
Expected it to be about 4 episodes when/if get to it.
@@J_Lee712 Most likely two episodes to be realistic. Drawing out four more episode for the last fight for Earth's freedom AFTER the epic Thragg encounter and the brutal fight on the sun is too much.
Thragg was the true final boss robot goes down easily just a post final boss
Thragg dropped the end game loot, Robot is just the post game boss with end game loot
Robot is like that DLC boss or like that secondary boss like Valkyries from God Of War 4 lol
It was a DLC but if you beat thragg in hard mode you get the: " sub can scratch my balls " passive ability who makes you a badass for the rest of your Life.
Thragg was Alister Azimuth and Robot was Lord Vorselon
.......please tell me someone understands this
@@mercury2157 I do
damn mark threw kregg like a bag of salary, he got buffed so hard from the last fight
Bag of salary😂😂
He was baptized by fire “sun” by now, Mark is ready to take on the fuckin Galaxy!
Has anyone noticed that the Immortal kind of looks like Wolverine? All that's missing are the pointy tuffs of hair that resemble ears.
Robot really screwed up here. If he left Mark alone he would’ve probably decided that his rule was acceptable, due to him helping defeat Thragg. Even if he still opposed Robot he wouldn’t have many allies, because most other people would’ve still supported him (even the Viltrumites would’ve likely hesitated to fight him). By acting preemptively he gave Mark a reason to overthrow him, and gave him allies.
Mark has a habit of taking a strong initial stance but then being more reasonable once he’s cooled off. He didn’t like that Nolan sided with Robot, and definitely wouldn’t have been his friend, but I think that Mark would’ve realized that he would’ve been asking too much of the Viltrumites to have them risk themselves and their families by starting another war.
@@amurderofcrows3713 Mark is a hothead but he is not stupid. If robot does not make the first move Mark has no casus belli to start a war with him. There would be a lot of his own Vultrimites asking why he is starting a war with Rex especially since Rex did help Mark against Thragg. Mark could not start a war without undermining his own power.
Mark mellowed as he aged as well. Ut yeah rex fucked himself he feared what could be and it ended his reign
11:35 Ursaal is happy Mark is worried about the lives of her siblings
Rex: "I need to attack Mark before he can attack me; it's the only way to be sure."
Mark: * takes that personally *
Rex: * surprised Pikachu face *
It's funny because Rex took a remote possibility (Mark attacking him) and made it a certainty (by attacking Mark first).
Ironically had Rex not attacked Mark he would have left earth anyway.
Rex really did sow the seeds of his own demise.
Well robot turns uncertainty into fact since it's easier to control what he KNOWS will happen rather than what he thinks could happen
@@StolenTheif Robot does not understand diplomacy and talking things out. Had Robot just asked Mark to leave he would have left.
Finally a fight where Mark bosses everyone including the og viltrumites.
7:34 idk why but that kid getting punched and coming out of the wall smiling make me laugh
The more time pass, the more Ursaal is becoming waifu material. ♡w♡
What?
yes fbi this comment right here
I have to one up mister romano,i too am starting to fall for her
@@GlacialBolt damn, we are so abituated with 1000 years old girls who looks like first grades that we are harmless against the exact opposite! O_O
@@giacomoromano8842 uh, not sure why you got so heated, but she definitely aint 1000. thragg started his army about 5 years ago if i recall correctly, and bug people age 100x, not 200x. shes at most like 20 in her age, so where did you get 1000?
Bruh why did he expose himself like that? He’s too smart to not do that
He tends to show himself when trying to convince people so I think it was his attempt at reconnecting with monster girl because if she didn’t side with him he probably would’ve killed her. And he didn’t want that
my man was multitasking an entire robot army, plus he got distracted by being in love, i think he forgot about where he was standing xD
@@artmart8902 i was wondering why he exposed himself as well so i really like your point
He couldn't help being a creepy obsessive towards Monster Girl
Monster Girl is unironically his kryptonite
Honestly, I always thought Nolan was being dumb for supporting Rex. People forget that no matter his results, Rex accomplished his goal by murdering his friends in broad daylight en masse. This means that he's driven by paranoia, and paranoid men are not as logical as they convince themselves of being. They'll become aggressive at anyone they PERCEIVE as a threat to their power. Outcome was inevitable, and if only Nolan didn't look down on earthlings so much, he could've helped sooner. Earthlings have dealt with dictators and fascists from all backgrounds for millenia. I think they know one when they see it. (sometimes lol)
Meanwhile liberalism laughing at duping the public to believe they are more moral and righteous to lead than people groomed for rule.
"This means that he's driven by paranoia, and paranoid men are not as logical as they convince themselves of being."
No, he anticpiated that his friends were naive, like you, and would continue opposing him to the detriment of the world. And since he had the means to prevent it, he did. I used to be like you, but Covid-19 cured me of my delusions that freedom is always better.
@@The1980Philip Well also he managed to expel the Viltrumites from earth which is a massive win in my book.
LMAO
You see the megalomaniac murderer who stole a man's identity and body, who is ready to kill all his friends because ''They might intercede when I decide to commit tyrannical actions'' and really think ''This is a reasonable man who will help society in a better direction'' like Mark says, he might want to improve the situation but not because he wants to help, but because he wants control.
He is by this point a thousand years old after being stuck in the other timeline and he broke down when one person cheated on him, he tried to regain control by controlling everyone in the universe, he killed his friends and was ready to summ the entire galaxy into a dictatorship (Because that was his plan, he doesn't want council since everyone is not to be trusted except for himself)
In the end, even with all his platitudes the galaxy ends up all the better with great degrees of freedom thanks to Mark's rule because he chooses to take the arduous path of peace rather than compliance by threat.
''My delusion that freedom is always better'' Those are petty words from a scared spineless slug who would bend over to any petty tyrant for the promise to be unburdened by having to make their own decisions!
@@The1980PhilipCringe.
Mark chose his daughter over the entire universe. Robot chose the world over everyone who trusted him and that he was supposed to care about. That's what I love about the morality of this comic is that it's so personal. As the reader I don't care that the world was doing amazing under Rex's rule, I hate him for what he did to Shapesmith, Cecil, and of course Mark and his family. And I love Mark for caring so much for his daughter that even when given the opportunity to fix all of his mistakes and save all the people he failed he didn't even hesitate to make sure she existed. But Rex was willing to turn against everyone who believed in him and dumped the woman he was supposed to be in love with into cold space to accomplish his goal.
same woman cheated on him tho
@@gjidgjdfjdfii is that supposed to be a point? They had already broken up and got back together. Robot is a POS
@@noremac7216 hope she sees this bro
Robot gets to spend the rest of his life realizing that he never needed a body or the human experience to reach his full potential and that really sucks for him.
As robotic as he always portrayed himself, it was his human desires that ultimately doomed him. My man's really did just fly to close to the son. What a tragic character, even if he dug his own grave.
11:30 me encanta esa escena, sin querer Mark le enseño a Ursal que lo que sentía por sus hermanos, esas emociones que los viltrumitas niegan, era las correctas y que Mark los guiará y no los usaría egoistamente.
I agree I like this very much to. Ursaal is just very happy that she is now working with and serving someone who is telling her to stay alive and keep her sibliings alive. Unlike Thragg who was readily willing to sacrfice and let his offspring die.
*Rex gives a speech trying to be redeemable*
Mark : 17:30
Donut Time
Imagine if Rex uploaded his conciousness into a supercomputer ... he'd become the Ultron of this universe
Or Arnim Zola
Honestly rex was almost in the right. he just lacked moral, which i guess is what got him so far. To have absolute power with no conscious is a dangerous thing to have
Best part is even Rex himself knew that. Like he legit understood why Mark was against him. Because while he has done so much good for the world his genius plus his lack of conscious means he really could end up coming up with logical reasons to do awful things.
Yeah, he did good it's just that his intentions and way of doing things weren't.
Seeing how Rex turned out, I wonder what the Robot in Invincible's body did to that universe?
Possibly? just like this one, but more durable
@@kairu_aname completly different he didnt have the experience of the Flaxaan invasion presumably and his friends are all dead
@@invictus6176
The flaxaan invasion didn't shape how he thought about things.
It only made how he turned out happen sooner.
Being in mark's body? Who was a leader?
Now he's a forced leader. So even quicker leadership role, but the same brain behind it.
Remember that mark went into the past and had robot confirm how he would do things?
Now that he's pure logic and doesn't have any reason to step down, remember he never really got to know monster girl there, he more than likely would be able to command even more efficiently being nearly indestructible, and in control of the viltrumites, and in control of most of the earth forces.
Robot was ALWAYS that ruler on the inside.
@@kairu_aname Idk this Robot would have in the back of his mind that he does have an evil counter part and I don’t think he is as smart as the last robot. I mean he didn’t even think to make himself a body after all those year, and doesn’t have the same events play out for him that did turn him evil. In this universe he is forced to become a ruler rather than choosing too, and he has to look out for the Viltrumites and the people of earth.
You guys forget invincible was that robots best friend essentially by the time mark left.They spent 6 months TALKING. THAT robot is factually aware that he could become evil.Also with the knowledge that his corruption could lead to that hes actually great.Rexs mind and a slightly weaker mark due never getting the eve buff.
I don't really even like super hero or this kinda stuff but if it's all on your channel in a movie like fashion. I mean it's too good to pass up. I love you!
Now that I remember Invincible was once in the Future, 500 Hundred years at least in Earth and Inmortal was a Leader and wanted to die at all cost
I guess that is Canon because He said Mark made him do it, just like it happens here
But he is alone, mark renember that and that's the reason he let robot brain live
@@Masaru_koyama Nothing implies Robot wasn't alive in that timeline. He just wasn't in the room. So it can still be canon.
@@gwell2118 first of all, if mark didn't go to the future. Then robot would just be killed , but after he goes to the future, he renembered so he left robot brain alive so immortal won't get depressed
@@Masaru_koyama Thats assuming that universe isn't a closed loop. That future could only exist because Mark went to the future saw what happened and his actions led directly too that future. As nothing he's done so far has necessarily prevented it. The future went bad because Immortal lost his desire to live. Nothing implies having Rex with him would prevent that. And the future Immortal accurately predicted events that later happened in the series (he even outright mentioned that Mark left him in charge, like he did at the end of the series). And him going to the future in no way explains why he let Rex live, in fact Rex accuratley deduced its because Mark realized that Rex did make the earth better, nothing implies his future journey factored into that.
So no nothing concretely proves that that future has been averted. Besides its not even that bad anyway, earth is still around and the crazy Immortal would be dealt with anyway.
@@gwell2118 do you have the slightest idea why immortal lost his desire to live? Because all of his friend perish away, having at least a genius brain to help can change everything, as idk, like suggesting a vacation? And let person he think is most fit in charge temporarily? One simple act from the past can change the whole future
Man, I've never had the chance to say that, but I think that's the right issue to bring about the fact that I love the design for Robot's suits. They are so cool and I love the fact that they changed their color, from orange to black, in order to convey the menace that Robot presents to the good guys.
15:25 WTF? Couldn't Rex make the robots autonomous? Invincible was set to win from the start 🤦♂️. Rex is too smart to fall for this.
He could, but he's never had to. He's always been able to command them all individually at the same time, and I think he prefers that kind of control. Autonomous drones would've been almost out of character.
He is a control freak. If he can't control it, it's a threat. Threats must be eliminated.
I liked the interaction between Terra and Lil Brit.
“Didn’t hurt. :]” lmao
This story has been one of the best I've ever seen! Can't wait for the last issues :D
For someone as smart as rex, he sure did plan out this assault on the viltrumites very poorly. None of his robots had those frequency machines to render them useless. Had his robots had those frequency devices, the vitrumites would've been powerless to stop him. But I'm glad he didn't think of that because he deserved this end result.
I think he was expecting the viltrumites to fight for him since he had their children
Yeah, it's really badly written. They had to wrap up the Rex plotline as fast as possible.
@@jiji-the-Legend No it isn't. Those frequency devices aren't all powerful, and he thought the viltrumites were on his side so why would he use them?
@@smalltrashman4227 its very badly written. Were talking about rex here. When has he ever trusted anyone to fight in his interests without having a dagger ready to slip in their back? Those frequency devices rendered invincible totally powerless every time they were used. Only times that frequency didn't work was when he was out of range of it and even so, those frequencies are deterrents against viltrumites. Rex could've done more but I really hate his character.
@@bluemenace04 He DID have a dagger to slip in their back. Their kids back,to be more specific.
oooooohhhh i was waiting for this i literally searched it earlier like and hour ago thank you
Okay I don't care how much good rex's has done in the world You don't go kidnapping innocent children That's just one line you don't cross.
The family reunion at the end there was kind of heartwarming and also to see general kregg hugging his children speaking children Well I guess Mark didn't just miss 5 years of Terra life you also missed five years of marky life as well.
I bet having to explain all this to him is going to be a little bit awkward?
So in later issues Mark's son becomes Invincible Jr. Or Invici-boy to help the Immortal and Monster Girl plus all the other heroes to protect Earth.
Kate is reading about her husband lol 5:30
There was no way Rex plan could ever have worked.
What was he going to do keep the Vultrimite children hostage forever ?
Because that is what he would have to do even if they delivered Mark to him.
He also lost the support of those who reluctantly worked with him when he took children hostage.
And on top of that he did'nt have a strategy for what to do if he was defeated.
There where only two strategies that could have worked
1 devise a sneak attack that would wipe out the Vultrimites
2 Don't take the children hostage and try to convince Mark to leave the planet with the Vultrimites.
Next to that he should have stashed a clone of him self somewhere secret and made a copy of his brain as a precaution in the case of defeat
Robot: Truth is things are better this way
Mark: *Already off to a good start!*
Hahahaha
I absolutely love the black/dark gray robot suits, they look super cool, could be profitable if they were made into action figures
in all likelihood they probably will be, when the show gets this far
13:50 of all the drones in this battle and his tactical genius Rex couldn't hold back his only tell. The only drone having body language showing regret; regret that He'll never truly know what love is.
Was looking for the aftermath of the thragg battle and this gets uploaded less than 24 hrs after having those thoughts.
I rarely make sure I drop a like on each video but every video of yours I watch I will be dropping a like and maybe a comment.
Thank you and keep it up!
7:30 can't wait to see this animated
14:08
“I shouldn’t have said that”
“I should *NOT* have said that”
How long before Robot tricks the immortal and obtains a new body, I wonder? At least Immortal can't age, so it could be a while.
Neither can Invincible.Viltrumites are pretty much immortal until they r killed by someone.Even Eve,as she can just deage herself whenever she's abt to die.Monster girl too,as she can use the side effects of her powers as an advantage.Basically,everyone with Viltrumite DNA is literally immortal now that no one is left to oppose their power.So yea,rest assured,Robot's gonna be trapped for good this time👍🏻
@@muinoel3335 They're not on earth though.
his brain will age and die ... he isnt immortal or long lived species, he lived as long as he did due to being in another dimension, on Earth he will age and die like any other human would.
question is only how long it will take for the brain to degrade as its not limited by the other organs which is something that kills us rather than brain failure.
@@legendsofmichael4315 you shouldn't worry about robot. It's Immortal you have to worry about considering his future version became an insane tyrant trying to commit suicide by making people rebel against him by committing horrible things. But I'm not to sure about that future since it could been change by this events.
@@ravenousking9643 could Immortal not be killed by like, total annihilation the way Thragg was?
Amanda I... I'll always love you.
You don't even know what love is.
_You're a machine Conner._
19:50 can you imagine atom eve's telling mark this, would be a punch in the gut .
I liked seeing how everyone, including the heroes of Earth and the viltrumites, joined forces to overthrow Robot and save the viltrumites' children. Thragg believed you can accomplish anything when you recognize those lower than you are fodder to be used as you please. I say this is what you can accomplish when you accept others as your equals.
18:24
Robot: "Only i have the brains to rule Earth."
Trust your instincts, immortal!
Thank you for posting the comics
Does anyone know how strong the black robot suits are meant to be? The character says they are made of something like volcanic tempered titanium alloy but anymore then that....
strong enough to survive the surface of the sun for a few seconds
@@mervynlarrier9424 They were in the core of the sun actually so much stronger than that.
Strong enough to handle being in the sun for a few seconds. Viltrumites in particular are vulnerable to them because they're supposedly made in such a way that, when they're hit, they vibrante at a frequency that damages viltrumites, since viltrumites are apparently vulnerable to sound
@@mervynlarrier9424 strength has no relation to melting point. Like tungsten, it’s the most heat resistant metal on the planet, but it’s about as brittle as pencil lead
Strong enough to tussle with adult viltrumites.
Rex was a really good villain (in my opinion) because he actually didn't want to destroy the world or become all-powerful or get his hands on doomsday weapons like pretty much 95% of all typical villains. He actually improved the world with what he did, despite everyone he killed or burned bridges with. Which just goes to show that the heroes aren't always right. Although neither side was completely right or wrong.
You don't understand Rex Is a Psyco traitor!
Im always surprised Eve isn't more of a badass during this whole fight. The one time her powers can finally effect the oppenent directly (since she normally can't effective organic matter). She should be able to change these robots into harmless lumps of other material.
She is just written as mark plot Armor, the author don't let her do anything on her own despite having probably the strongest power
Its kinda good to see that one red eye viltrum dude is having a reunion to his children
09:13: Bulletproof looking like the Black Two-Face
5:45
Debbie: :I
Terra: :D
Well that's going to haunt my nightmares
@Bill Bixby & Hulk 78 Invincible Jade [Lady Hulk] I highly doubt that I am a bot
In the time travel issue where Mark has to kill immortal he says only one person left knows him by that name. But wouldn't Markus, and Molly too if she grew up to do hero stuff, know him as well? Monster girl is also basically immortal as well. Maybe it's a different timeline.
Thanks for the video I was so excited to see this conclusion of rex
Mark:Robot! You have failed this planet!
🤜🫀🤖🩸🩸🩸
I know Robot is the bad guy here, but I just can't help but take some pride in the fact that a human was probably smarter than basically every scientist from every advanced alien race combined. Robot came up with weapons that could actually do something to Viltrumites. Besides the Scourge Virus and Alan the Alien, that's never been done before, by any alien species that the Viltrumites have conquered, and he did it by himself, unlike those other two examples which were accomplished through large group efforts.
Also, I like the detail that the Immortal, who was once Abraham Lincoln, ultimately decided to retire to a log cabin. That feels right. I like that Kate is reading a biography of him, and also, I wonder, what regular name does the Immortal go by now? Is he still named Abraham Lincoln?
And lastly, in that shot of all the heroes that Mark is talking to, next to Immortal... is that Blind Kenshi from Mortal Kombat?
Another thing about the virus and alan is that the virus was made by a viltrumite themselves to be so effective and alan took some large amount of time to be effective and rex ended up doing it in a short amount of time while making the armor strong enough to overpower most superheroes
7:45 Hey Vincible is caring Invincible
He should've have been named Indestructible but he's just Brit.
5:40 Terra's Face 😂
Man the viltrumite army and monster girl for sure carry that fight
Waited all night for this. Thank you my keep up the good work
Immortal gave me Wolverine vibes here 😂😂😂
I still feel like there's room narratively for Anissa to be slowly regenerating in the Coalition sickbay at this point... believed dead, hanging from a thread, but slowly returning.
Such a shame we never got to see her watch her son meet his real father, or even his grandfather
Especially when looking at omniman surviving his much worse injury.
@@mortemincarnatam2836Omni Man didn't survive his worst injury though, he died after being ripped in half.
No, viltrumite can heal all damage as long as its isn't their brain or heart. Anissa was dead...
Why do i have a feeling that Brain Rex will somehow find a way to break security and create chaos again?
Thats not entirely out of the realm of possibility the way the series ends actually leads you to believe theirs more to come by leaving a lot of loose ends this done to leave you wanting more but personally I think the robot thing has run its course if their ever is a serious revival or some form of continuation
"Didn't hurt." -Brit Jr. what a chad
I think his indestructibility makes it so that nothing can trigger his pain receptors.
@@clashoclan3371 I think they can still feel pain; it just takes a lot, despite it not doing any real damage. There was a point in Brit's own comic where he got nailed in the face by a powerful laser and remarked how strong it was.
anybody notice at 5:30 that duplikate is reading about Abraham Lincoln, in the show it was confirmed that immortal is Abraham
Been waiting for this one. Thanks
The “shit” gets me every time 😂
Oh man that was so intense
Though a part of me is sad knowing what happened to robot and what is instored for him for what is the rest of his life another is relieved knowing that in another timeline we have another flying around in space getting to live out a better life
So why are they calling Rudy "Rex"? I've been inconsistent with the comic
The original Rex was killed and since robots human body is basically a complete genetic copy of the original, he took on his name to “honor” him.
@@camerongreene3357 that's fair.
5:29 Kate reading her husband’s diary.
It was this point were Rex really F'd things up, and went totally off the deep end.
imo this was sort of a cliche way to get robot defeat, for as great as he was as a villain. would like to have that "gotcha moment" fleshed out in the series... and lets be real, monster girl didnt exactly "deserve" to be the world's savior after all shes done to rex's head either. he was a monster by that point, but she surely helped A LOT to push him off the edge.
20:06 he looks like his father
Goddam this was epic
Robot shouldve just left, pulled a Dr. Manhattan.
18:00 if the show get this far then I hope they change this. The whole idea that the good guys would set up a superhero dictatorship and rule the world seems very villainous to me. It would be better for them to admit while robot had its advantages, it's downsides are to great. I also hate that this comic tries to paint his rule as benevolent and prosperous when in reality, it would be very unstable and corrupt.
Thats how it works in real life. Take United States for example. It is a wayyyy better off than countries like Zimbabwe or Mozambique. But the sacrifices made to get there (im not talking about ww2 deaths or no cookie cutter shit like that) were str8 up evil. US literally committed genocide against native americans, They built their "land of the free" by enslaving africans and have them build shit for them. America created the goddamn Atom bomb for christsake. And if ur gonna say we had to nuke hiroshima and nagasaki to win the war ur proving my point
Well it’s not a fascist dictatorship anymore, seems more of an advisory board with governmental powers. IMo they should set up an election, I honestly think Robot/Immortal would win based on his track record. His rule was never painted as benevolent either idk where that came from, only prosperous because he got results.
@@DrGandW invincible says that the heros should be able to override the governments if they don't agree with them, that seems dictatorial to me.
Ignoring the circumstances of the fictional setting to make tabloid level political commentary? Classic internet.
@@Michael-bn1oi all I'm going by IS the events and words of the comic.
Imagine if rex won he would have to fight thragg and basically all of the vultramites by himself
This is after the fight against Thragg
He did all that to just to end back in a tank
another surprise ending,,, Wow
If Terra and brit jr had a kid in the future that mfer would be truly "invincible" 😂