My favorite thing i only recently found out is when mr burns says "you all talk big, but who here has the guts to stop me" and the only person who doesn't look away is maggie, she just keeps her eyes dead focused on him
I know this is an old video but I want to point out that, earlier in the first part of the episode, Homer shakes Mr Burns about after vandalising his office. This could easily explain the DNA.
I don't think the candy was her motive the whole time but the final straw... you see her reacting to the hurt he's causing the family members throughout the episode, and she's an unusually perceptive baby with a sense of justice, and I dig that.
"As amazing as Moe is at a lot of things, I highly doubt he could beat a lie detector." Actually, people beat lie detectors all the time, it isn't even really that difficult.
Lie detectors just detect elevated breathing rate and heart rate, they're useless and shouldn't be trusted as a "lie detector". Even the guy that invented them said they didn't prove whether someone is lying or not.
One thing I will say, and it doesn’t take the comedy away from me, but lie detectors don’t work that way in real life. The person reading the paper looks for pulse rates to go up or down, as well as other schematics. However, the ringing and dinging made the scene funnier
Tense your asshole on truthful questions and it fucks the readings, unclench on lies, gives them a bunch of mixed results. Although side note a polygraph result isn’t admissible as circumstantial evidence, as it’s data only shows biosigns, they’re as factual as they are irrelevant to the facts of the case.
@@thepolticalone961 It’s from the movie JFK! Kevin Costner’s character uses the phrase when he and his team begin to dig into the conspiracy theories surrounding the JFK assassination. :)
What if Burns only really remembers struggling with maggie and assumes she shot him? So they struggle someone else sees burns taking candy from a baby grabs the gun and fires. Because of the trauma he only remembers the struggle and not the actual shooting.
Explain how the gunshot clearly is coming from the front of him then. That's where most, if not all, of the blood is and where the hole in his jacket was.
Templarfreak that person could have easily grabbed Mr. Burns gun and shot him from the front, also if he did not the person would have most likely shot after marking there presence known thereby shooting his front side.
I guess the other theory that ties in all the evidence is he actually shot himself I’m guessing the gun wasn’t all that secure in the holster due to his weakness and would also presumably already be cocked ready to fire with the safety off. in his struggle with Maggie it falls out and lands on the already cocked hammer discharging and hitting him homer later finds the gun and plans on throwing it away later explains his prints burns only remembers that he struggled with Maggie for the candy before getting shot this explains the DNA evidence and the sounds of a struggle and why he thinks Maggie shot him
The collector yes, but it was found on the floor of the car, maybe the killer shot him and threw it in the car. Maybe they we're trying to blame Homer, or they just got careless.
Having Maggie be the shooter is the only way to have a regular character be the shooter without it resulting in them having to do hard time and in effect being killed off in the process
While very few people figured out it was Maggie at the time, this is a mystery that would have been solved immediately by today's online community. The last group shot where Maggie is the only one staring at Mr. Burns would have given everything away.
This was also before you could pause and rewind TV shows while you watched them unless you taped it on your VCR. If you didn’t notice it the first time you’d probably never notice. But there were definitely comic book guys back then who taped these episodes for that specific purpose.
I like how when they made this event two-parter, they made the fact that everyone had a motivation to shoot Mr. Burns part of the joke, not to mention they had certain scenes animated just to keep people even within the production guessing.
Number of people who didn't get the joke: 4. Like I said in my last comment, I was making a very clear reference to the part of the episode where Marge says "When I married [Homer], I took the name, the genes, everything." It was a joke in the episode that was intended to keep Marge as a suspect. If you'd seen the episode, or even read my last comment, you would have known that it was a joke.
@Bricktheater He means why would you leave your baby unattended in the car where Barney or whoever could kidnap her to go wandering around like a dumbass
As I re-watch this "series" (to be READY for the FINALE); I am flabbergasted at noticing that this was supposed to be JUST a 3-parter (it ended up being a 6-parter! M not counting the "60 seconds" preview).
Homer shot Mr. burns. In the episode revenge is a dish best served 3 times, season 18 episode 11. homer says "I'm gonna get my revenge and if I get caught I'm pinning it on the baby like the time I shot Mr. burns" Mr. burns said it was Maggie because homer had a gun to his head and said "say I never shot you"
I think mr. burns pointed her out because he knew no one would blame the baby. homer did put a gun to burns' head and tell him to stop saying he shot him.
TheSilvertrigger this is a strong theroy and many reasons why homer would shoot burns cuz i mean burns is a jerk and his whatever follow guy name is would not shooot him cuz he LOVES him
TheSilvertrigger I just watched that episode last night after watching these videos a few days ago, came back here just to post this. It's puzzling because the Marge solution seems to make the most sense.
A potential other shooter might not need an alibi, it was dark and Mr Burns was indeed struggling to take the candy from Maggie. It's entirely possible that someone could have run up, taken his gun, shot him and run off without him actually seeing who it was, or him remembering due to being in shock. His mind would go back to Maggie and blame her since she was the one he'd been fighting, and already bore a grudge against due to the events of Rosebud
It's possible that, in the struggle for the candy, the gun accidentally misfires. Therefore, there was no attempt on his life at all. It was just an accident.
I really appreciate how you already here hint at the Homer solution by showing the two different character models for Krusty when talking about an alternative shooter. Not bad for someone who initially only had two alternative suspects.
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I think I have solved the mystery of who really shot Mr Burns. It was PRINCIPAL SKINNER! In part one in the town hall when they show several townspeople brandishing guns only one has a suppressor/silencer attached and that is being held by Skinner. A key clue is given when Chief Wiggum asks "if another old guy got shot that night why didn't anybody report it?" That's because the townspeople only heard one shot and that was when Smithers shot the old man Jasper, but everybody thought that was the shot that hit Burns. Actually, Principal Skinner shot Mr Burns with his suppressed/silenced gun and nobody heard it. That's why when Skinner is recounting events to the police he says he was with Superintendent Chalmers in the bathroom when they heard a shot, that was actually Smithers shooting Jasper. Skinner was wearing makeup, because he was about to disguise himself to look like Marge Simpson. Skinner framed the Simpson family so he must have planted the eyelash to frame them along with leaving a gun in the car. The writers probably added that funny thing Marge said about having Simpson DNA to gloss over the inconsistency that Skinner planted a Simpson DNA eyelash when he was framing Marge who is actually not a Simpson. The writers must be trying to show that they're aware of that inconsistency but they had to write it as Simpson DNA because otherwise the plot of the episode wouldn't work to have the police identify Homer and to keep the secret plot about Skinner posing as Marge a secret. Principal Skinner, disguised as Marge Simpson, must have then gone into the parking lot and confronted Burns, who says "oh it's you." In the darkness Burns could have been convinced Skinner was Marge. This is where it fits into the other theory that Marge really shot Burns, but actually it was Skinner. Burns thought it was Marge and so he pointed to M and S meaning Marge Simpson. Then he must have decided to spare Marge because he still had feelings for her and blamed it on Maggie instead so Marge would not get charged, but really it was Principal Skinner who did it. Also worth noticing they explained that Homer's prints got on that gun by fumbling around under the car seat presumably before the night Burns got shot, so the revolver gun was already there under the seat, but then in another flashback they show Mr Burn's revolver falling out of his holster into Maggie's hands and then onto the floor, so there were 2 guns now under the seat? One of those flashbacks didn't happen, it must have been the one with Maggie shooting Burns, because it was actually Skinner with his silenced gun.
About the sunclock clue, I don’t think Mr. Burns would remember a random baby’s name, even if she’s the daughter of one employee. He always had to read the cards with the families’ information at his events to remember the names.
Thank you for this entertaining video. My thoughts to this. The thing with the DNA proofs nothing, it is a full red herring. First in the scene of burns back flash at the ending of the second episode, where he struggled with Maggie, I do not see how an eyelash of Maggie could have flown out of the car at Mr. Burns. Secondly, why everyone thinks the moment of attempted murder is where the DNA is transfered? Homer was clearly hand on hand shaking Mr. Burns with his suit on in his office in the first episode. Thats where is DNA came on the suit. So the DNA says zero about the attempted murder... This opens the circle of suspects up to (almost) anyone again.
Another thought. No one, not a single person reported to have heard two shots. That means either, one of the shots where fired with a silencer, or Smithers shot at Jesper was already quite further away. Who had a silencer? Mr. Skinner. However he has an alibi. However, he reports to have switched cases with Mrs. Skinner (MS) or Skinners Mum (SM). So did she have the silencer? Nope, in the bathroom scene the silencer is lying there. So the shot must have been further away. This also eliminates Marge Simpsons as shooter, as she was in front of town hall when the shot was heared. She might still have collaborated though, but she couldn't have pulled the trigger. Also the main issue with the Marge theory is. She is an first class expert with guns. Burns would have not survived if Marge would have pulled the trigger.
While Marge kind of works in her behavior profile I find the whole Lisa theory way too shaggy. Also things I could not explain. Why does Lisa say, "Do not eat the evidence?" to Chief Wiggum? In the dream he eats a dough nut, out of the dream he drinks milk? It never is resolved. Is the bird in the dream also just a pop reference? Or do birds play a role? What does the pidgeon saying "clue clue clue" really say? But anyway, both it is a dream and an "animal talking", so can't take that too serious.
To make most sense. Questions that also never have been answered, where is everyone during the scene? Where was Homer? And Bart? And Lisa? And Grandpa? (to quote Marge) Where was the whole town? We know alibis only from: Smithers (on his way), Otto and Carl and Mrs. Skinner being in the town hall. Mr. Skinner and Chalmers in the bathroom. Marge Simpson and Jimbo being in front of town hall. Then when Mr. Burns collapses on the sun dial. Almost the whole town is suddendly there again. Also as you said, how come so many people being around that place no one saw anything? No one else went to their cars after the meeting??
How is that saying, When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth? This leaves in my opinion only one explanation that really works with common sense* and the facts given beyond symbolism. I think of it like murder on the orient express to take a classic. it was (almost) everyone! The whole town! Except the people we know have alibis, and possibly some other people excluded, like Wiggum with his police pals sitting in the car etc. But Homer, Lisa, Bart, Grandpa and half of the people of the meeting were involved. They overpowered Burns, shot him with his own gun and then decided at as group to blame it on the baby. Since they all where involved no one "seen" anything. Also the first hospital proclaimed Burns already as dead. And everyone was suddendly back after the deed was done. They were too involved. When Mr. Burns awoke he realized the whole town was against him and decided on the fly to go with them and blame the baby to save his life (similar like the detective in the orient express going an alternative random stranger explanation that did not involve everyone, to save his own guts). Mr. Burns collapsing on the sundial, was either Marge Simpson, to denote as one to be trusted, or he ment Whole of Springfield.
Anyway this has become a crazy conspiracy theory, hasn't it? :o) Eventually maybe we shouldn't read too much into comics that make tons of other bloopers. For example in these two episodes the town halls parking lot is several times shown to be on the opposite side of the sundial. In the scene where Lisa revisits it (and the pidgeon screams clue) the parking lot has shifted to the side of the townhall? Is the clue that the parking lot can shift? Also the road access to the lot moves from left side to middle and back. There is a car on the lot that shifts colors between first episode and second episode. A clue? Not really, right? Springfields school has been shown in first episode to have the retirement home and moes bar as neighbours. But in the scene where the sunblocker is activated, neither are neighbours. Not really a clue too? So eventually lets just not read too much into it.
Unsure if this gets brought up in 2 or 3 but the revolver Homer has in the hospital is missing 2 bullets out of the cylinder. When the green box is shown after being dug up in the yard there is a single bullet left laying in the box. Mr Burns was shot once which accounts for the other missing bullet. 6 bullets in homers revolver, one in the box, one in Mr Burns. Homer’s gun was the gun that fired the shot.
+William Lea Would make sense... in his frighten state he was looking in Marge's direction and was getting ready to say her name and was stumbling on the "m" and in his panic to not get her in trouble, blurted out the first person that came close to Marge's name, which was Maggie...
I keep seeing people bring up Marge, which completely ignores the fact that SHE IS THE ONLY CHARACTER WHO COULD NOT POSSIBLY BE THE CULPRIT. We SEE her on the opposite side of the building from Mr Burns at the exact moment the gun was fired and the gunshot was heard.
Burns could have been taking the lolly off of Maggie which would explain the Simpson DNA and someone stopped him by shooting him. That would also explain why Burns remembers that he was trying to take the lolly off of Maggie, he might not have remembered the actual shooter because of traumatic memory loss.
I think the bigger mystery is, if Krusty just got back in town after being on vacation, why did he stop at town hall, (where he knew everyone else was) before going home to drop off his luggage? Seems like he wanted an alibi, and witnesses to back it up.
Actually, the relative strength is a good clue because there is a struggle. Against, let's say Nelson there wouldn't be much of a struggle beyond a couple of strong strikes from Nelson felling Burns with ease.
Well, I have a theory, may not be very logical, but... Well let's say that Sideshow Bob was released from jail on the day that Mr. Burns was shot, and Mr. Burns would know a little about Sideshow Bob's attempted murders, right? Anyways, we know that Sideshow Bob usually uses a knife to kill someone (AKA Bart, Selma, Krusty, and/or Lisa), but don't you all think that since he's a homocidal maniac, he'd know how to use a gun? Exactly, so if this were the case, Sideshow Bob could have shot Mr. Burns, how the Simpson's DNA gets into Mr. Burns' suit would be easy to figure out, Bob would secretly cut of one of Bart's hairs and put it into Mr. Burns' suit. The finger prints are harder, but Bob could have found some pictures of Homer's fingerprints and put them on the gun, after removing evidence that the fingerprints weren't real fingerprints. How the gun got left in the car is simple, Bob could have left the gun in the car to sabotage one of the Simpsons.
These analysis videos are the reason this episode was made. It's work like this that just lets the episodes breathe with new life, as they were meant to
Actually earlier in the episode, Homer throttles Burns in his office. Due to Homer being balding, who's to say that Homer didn't lose a hair while throttling burns, landing on the suit.
I think it actually makes sense as to why burns would accuse Maggie, even if someone else did it. Burns is so close to cartoonish super villainy that I’m sure that if he had the chance to take revenge on his shooter, he would do it on his own terms (probably with the personal touch of hired goons) and doesn’t want the police to stand in his way. Of course he accuses Maggie specifically because he knows she won’t face any consequences and she can’t speak for herself either way
The clocks were more than symbolic. The time 3PM was drilled into our head, along with the “Pardon My Zinger” commercial on Moe’s TV giving the time, to show Smithers didn’t do it.
Actually Burns and Homer are related, Burn's great great grandmother's brother married the sister of Homer's great great great grandfather Also I believe the reason why Burns accused Maggie could've been that Homer threatens him with a pistol and since Burns is weak there would've been no reason to avoid the attack but to accuse Maggie of it since Bart, Lisa, Abe and Marge wouldn't have a lot of evidence against them
That DNA would be too distant to matter with so many generations of non reletives mixing in the DNA pool. At best, it would just show a faint DNA similarity.
Actually your videos are kind of good and remind me of the Myths and Legends that are looked over in such games like Grand Theft Auto and Canis Canem Edit.
Obviously it was a situation of struggle and misfire since old fashioned revolvers don't safeties and maggie can't be held responsible since she is a baby.
I remember watching these episodes when they first aired. Guessing who was a big deal... i remember the contest. I don’t remember how I figured maggie, but I remember my brother freaking when maggie was revealed because that’s what I had said the week before.
yep well that pretty much just about clears clarifies and covers it all up then now pretty much it was Homer Simpson who really done it who shot Mister Burns that time
Remember when Homer got so mad a Burns, and was like physically like pushing homer, (I really don't know how to describe it) And we have no reason to believe that he didn't change suits, so maybe that's how he got the Simpson DNA got on him.
I'm 37 and I've two younger sisters. We grew up with Simpsons on Sky one in Ireland. Always taping them. It had a bunch of early Simpsons toys. Nelson came with a trash can, there was a Bartman one(early Simpsons merch always had that version around)Marge came with cookies and Maggie etc and each character had a speech balloon with interchangeable phrases. We had Simpsons Sing the Blues on cassette, we had all the trading cards, dolls, schoolbag, pencil case, pj's, comics everything. And every Sunday at 6pm Sky would broadcast a new episode. I STILL have a vivid memory of being out with my friends and all talking about the episode. We all had theories and OF COURSE an older cousin of a friend had a friend who seen the show in America and knew it was Smithers or Homer or whatever lol... I remember being so excited for the episode and I had saved some money and had bought some sweets and Lucozade(a real treat when you are 10 in those days!) which was still in glass bottles then, and I remember our mam let us watch it in the sitting room on the 'big telly'... Which was rare even to be in that room! 😂 Next day of course in school all anyone was talking about was the show. Good memories. Much ☀ and 👍 and ♥ to all Simpsons fans out there.
3:46 I'm getting flashbacks to all of the video games I've played that revolve around a murder mystery where they write some dying message in blood. It's essentially one of the most used tropes in both Ace Attorney and Danganronpa.
Simpson DNA: Here's a thought of who it might have been...Mona Simpson, Homer's mother, she had a problem with Mr Burns from back in the 60s. Mona back for revenge? Hmm..think about it, she caught wind of the whole oil thing so she decided to come back to Springfield to wreak havoc and try and get the oil thing shut down. In doing so she ran into Burns he said "I think you'd better drop it" because she was holding up a sign or something else of some sort and in the struggle got access to his gun and shot him. Shocked by what she did and already in trouble with the law she then fled so everybody in Springfield was left holding the bag. Also the 'M' and 'S' on the clock could also stand for Mona Simpson. Nice going Mama Simpson, letting your baby granddaughter take the rap for you. Pretty plausible.."Who Shot Mr Burns Part 1" was Season 6 Episode 25, we didn't see Homer and his mother reunite until Season 7, Episode 8.
That would've been a really cool twist and introduction for her character. The only thing is that would mean Mona would essentially frame her own son, by planting the gun in the car
I always thought it was Homer dressed as Krusty. After everyone gathers by the shot Burns, notice how the ‘Krusty’ model is the same as Homer’s except for the hair? (Nose and mouth structure, like from the clown college episode) also Krusty only returned from holiday at the time and was wearing different clothes.
Although this doesn't come up until Part 2, I wonder if Wiggum referring to Tito Puente as "Mr Samba, Senor Mambo" was a reference to the M.S./S.M. initials. I also wonder if I've already posted this.
I think it almost has to be Maggie (besides it really being her), because she's the only one with ample opportunity. Anyone else would've needed to know, with almost certainty, that Burns would walk to the parking lot at that time, while also staying out of sight from Marge and anyone else who could've been in the parking lot. Perhaps someone was following Burns, while also staying out of Jimbo's sight, as he was outside the Town Hall building as well.
It's easy to see why he accuses Maggie, he was stealing from her creating guilt and could only see her when he was shot. Making him 100% believe it was her.
Technically I don’t think Maggie could be help responsible for the incident because she didn’t even use the gun. It simply fell from Mr. Burn’s suit and went off as soon as it landed in her hands.
My favorite thing i only recently found out is when mr burns says "you all talk big, but who here has the guts to stop me" and the only person who doesn't look away is maggie, she just keeps her eyes dead focused on him
i thought that was cool too, but it doesn't look like Abe looks away either ...
SurprisesNo He does right before the shot cuts away. He looks to.his bottom left.
MrJambola L Damn it I literally just watched this episode and came online to see if anyone else noticed that!
MrJambola L you didn't find that out he showed you that in this video 😂😂
watch the video first. then comment
I know this is an old video but I want to point out that, earlier in the first part of the episode, Homer shakes Mr Burns about after vandalising his office. This could easily explain the DNA.
Ik this is an old comment but I just saw this, and that's a nice catch!
That's the explanation given in pt2
Maybe Mr. Burns shot himself, and didn't want to be humiliated by shooting himself so he blamed the only other human at the shooting.
Yea
JGFishe that wouldn’t explain the struggle
Qwart22 he accidentally shot himself somehow in the struggle
Or I SHOT MR BURNS AND YOURE ALL WRONG! IM INSANE HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
Isn't being shot by a baby just as humiliating
I don't think the candy was her motive the whole time but the final straw... you see her reacting to the hurt he's causing the family members throughout the episode, and she's an unusually perceptive baby with a sense of justice, and I dig that.
"As amazing as Moe is at a lot of things, I highly doubt he could beat a lie detector."
Actually, people beat lie detectors all the time, it isn't even really that difficult.
But Moe was specifically shown that he can't beat the lie detector.
As George Costanza once said: It's not a lie if you believe it.
Lie detectors just detect elevated breathing rate and heart rate, they're useless and shouldn't be trusted as a "lie detector". Even the guy that invented them said they didn't prove whether someone is lying or not.
One thing I will say, and it doesn’t take the comedy away from me, but lie detectors don’t work that way in real life. The person reading the paper looks for pulse rates to go up or down, as well as other schematics. However, the ringing and dinging made the scene funnier
Tense your asshole on truthful questions and it fucks the readings, unclench on lies, gives them a bunch of mixed results.
Although side note a polygraph result isn’t admissible as circumstantial evidence, as it’s data only shows biosigns, they’re as factual as they are irrelevant to the facts of the case.
"we're through the looking glass here people"
it's been 3 years and no one has recognised the thick of it quote... im sorry
@@nonyornats6218 what's the quote?
@@thepolticalone961 It’s from the movie JFK! Kevin Costner’s character uses the phrase when he and his team begin to dig into the conspiracy theories surrounding the JFK assassination. :)
@@surfercharlie25 oh right
I honestly can't wait to see how this turns out. This has got to be one of your greatest analysis yet. Why don't more people do stuff like this?
I’m saying this from the future to say yes you were more then right let me tell you that!
Analyses. (Plural of analysis.)
@@waynemarvin5661 Bart Simpson might have unburied the guns, and Marge is a selfish jerk.
And second of all FAT Tony might have killed Mr. Burns but it was him
Oh snap, it's Tariq
What if Burns only really remembers struggling with maggie and assumes she shot him? So they struggle someone else sees burns taking candy from a baby grabs the gun and fires. Because of the trauma he only remembers the struggle and not the actual shooting.
Explain how the gunshot clearly is coming from the front of him then. That's where most, if not all, of the blood is and where the hole in his jacket was.
Templarfreak that person could have easily grabbed Mr. Burns gun and shot him from the front, also if he did not the person would have most likely shot after marking there presence known thereby shooting his front side.
I guess the other theory that ties in all the evidence is he actually shot himself I’m guessing the gun wasn’t all that secure in the holster due to his weakness and would also presumably already be cocked ready to fire with the safety off. in his struggle with Maggie it falls out and lands on the already cocked hammer discharging and hitting him homer later finds the gun and plans on throwing it away later explains his prints burns only remembers that he struggled with Maggie for the candy before getting shot this explains the DNA evidence and the sounds of a struggle and why he thinks Maggie shot him
Dan Smart
The shot was clearly in front of him and his weapon was missing.
The collector yes, but it was found on the floor of the car, maybe the killer shot him and threw it in the car. Maybe they we're trying to blame Homer, or they just got careless.
Having Maggie be the shooter is the only way to have a regular character be the shooter without it resulting in them having to do hard time and in effect being killed off in the process
While very few people figured out it was Maggie at the time, this is a mystery that would have been solved immediately by today's online community. The last group shot where Maggie is the only one staring at Mr. Burns would have given everything away.
This was also before you could pause and rewind TV shows while you watched them unless you taped it on your VCR. If you didn’t notice it the first time you’d probably never notice. But there were definitely comic book guys back then who taped these episodes for that specific purpose.
"Burns struggles with his opponent, so it must be someone weak" LOL. too true.
Well that actually is true
marge took everything when she married homer even the dna
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Most people forgot there was an alternate ending to the episode where smithers shoots mr burns
Yes but The viedeo Name is "who shot Mr burns REALLY";)
hayden collis wait WHAT?????!!!!!!!!
Is it possible to watch the alternative ending somewhere? Does anyone have a link?
InvaderBethany Simpsons 138th episode spectacular.
Thanks SonicMaster Sword. :)
I absolutely love the picture stills you choose for your videos, all the weird animation transition frames with weird expressions.
I like how when they made this event two-parter, they made the fact that everyone had a motivation to shoot Mr. Burns part of the joke, not to mention they had certain scenes animated just to keep people even within the production guessing.
6:30 you forgot Marge - when she married Homer she took on his last name AND his DNA
You don't swap dna when married
It's a reference to Marge claiming you do in the episode.
Maybe you don't...
she means she was pregnant
Number of people who didn't get the joke: 4. Like I said in my last comment, I was making a very clear reference to the part of the episode where Marge says "When I married [Homer], I took the name, the genes, everything." It was a joke in the episode that was intended to keep Marge as a suspect. If you'd seen the episode, or even read my last comment, you would have known that it was a joke.
I always wondered why Maggie was left alone in the car lol
@Bricktheater He means why would you leave your baby unattended in the car where Barney or whoever could kidnap her to go wandering around like a dumbass
She was checking where Homer and literally everyone else was at. She wasn't going to be gone for long.
@@brentandrew2419 Barney wouldn't steal Maggie since he knows it's Homers daughter
@@brandonwilliams15 Well, Mr. Burns then lol
@@brandonwilliams15 who now?
As I re-watch this "series" (to be READY for the FINALE); I am flabbergasted at noticing that this was supposed to be JUST a 3-parter (it ended up being a 6-parter! M not counting the "60 seconds" preview).
What finale? The heat death of the universe? That'll happen before this show ends
The MS/WScould've also been:
Smithson Wesson
What'shisname Simpson
Mr. Simpson
Mrs. Simpson
maybe even Mona Simpson
Scottish Willie
Homer shot Mr. burns. In the episode revenge is a dish best served 3 times, season 18 episode 11. homer says "I'm gonna get my revenge and if I get caught I'm pinning it on the baby like the time I shot Mr. burns" Mr. burns said it was Maggie because homer had a gun to his head and said "say I never shot you"
Homer the lunatic could have just made that up in the aftermaths. I doubt he alone has the mental capacity to frame anyone else.
I think mr. burns pointed her out because he knew no one would blame the baby. homer did put a gun to burns' head and tell him to stop saying he shot him.
TheSilvertrigger this is a strong theroy and many reasons why homer would shoot burns cuz i mean burns is a jerk and his whatever follow guy name is would not shooot him cuz he LOVES him
TheSilvertrigger I just watched that episode last night after watching these videos a few days ago, came back here just to post this. It's puzzling because the Marge solution seems to make the most sense.
TheSilvertrigger Maybe that was a joke referencing this conspiracy theory.
A potential other shooter might not need an alibi, it was dark and Mr Burns was indeed struggling to take the candy from Maggie. It's entirely possible that someone could have run up, taken his gun, shot him and run off without him actually seeing who it was, or him remembering due to being in shock. His mind would go back to Maggie and blame her since she was the one he'd been fighting, and already bore a grudge against due to the events of Rosebud
It's possible that, in the struggle for the candy, the gun accidentally misfires. Therefore, there was no attempt on his life at all. It was just an accident.
Fuck UA-cam but how would it hit him?
W and S could have also been Scottish Willie, I wouldn't be shocked if Burns only knows him "that Scottish Fellow who's always angry"
I really appreciate how you already here hint at the Homer solution by showing the two different character models for Krusty when talking about an alternative shooter.
Not bad for someone who initially only had two alternative suspects.
I've always noticed this as well, I'm glad I'm not the only one😂
"Arrest the baby!" is one of my favorite Mr. Burns quote.
In Good Luck Charlie a store clerk does that with baby Charlie
Ha.. you put a 60 seconds simpson in there... I love ya, man..
Also, I can't wait until part 2...
The timer shot mr. burns.
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Burns would have blamed it on Maggie because he knew she wouldn’t get arrested
I think I have solved the mystery of who really shot Mr Burns. It was PRINCIPAL SKINNER! In part one in the town hall when they show several townspeople brandishing guns only one has a suppressor/silencer attached and that is being held by Skinner. A key clue is given when Chief Wiggum asks "if another old guy got shot that night why didn't anybody report it?" That's because the townspeople only heard one shot and that was when Smithers shot the old man Jasper, but everybody thought that was the shot that hit Burns. Actually, Principal Skinner shot Mr Burns with his suppressed/silenced gun and nobody heard it. That's why when Skinner is recounting events to the police he says he was with Superintendent Chalmers in the bathroom when they heard a shot, that was actually Smithers shooting Jasper. Skinner was wearing makeup, because he was about to disguise himself to look like Marge Simpson. Skinner framed the Simpson family so he must have planted the eyelash to frame them along with leaving a gun in the car. The writers probably added that funny thing Marge said about having Simpson DNA to gloss over the inconsistency that Skinner planted a Simpson DNA eyelash when he was framing Marge who is actually not a Simpson. The writers must be trying to show that they're aware of that inconsistency but they had to write it as Simpson DNA because otherwise the plot of the episode wouldn't work to have the police identify Homer and to keep the secret plot about Skinner posing as Marge a secret. Principal Skinner, disguised as Marge Simpson, must have then gone into the parking lot and confronted Burns, who says "oh it's you." In the darkness Burns could have been convinced Skinner was Marge. This is where it fits into the other theory that Marge really shot Burns, but actually it was Skinner. Burns thought it was Marge and so he pointed to M and S meaning Marge Simpson. Then he must have decided to spare Marge because he still had feelings for her and blamed it on Maggie instead so Marge would not get charged, but really it was Principal Skinner who did it. Also worth noticing they explained that Homer's prints got on that gun by fumbling around under the car seat presumably before the night Burns got shot, so the revolver gun was already there under the seat, but then in another flashback they show Mr Burn's revolver falling out of his holster into Maggie's hands and then onto the floor, so there were 2 guns now under the seat? One of those flashbacks didn't happen, it must have been the one with Maggie shooting Burns, because it was actually Skinner with his silenced gun.
I doubt it
What a shame that the police actually kinda did their work that time and checked that the bullet came from Burns's gun.
LancelnAustralia didn't the directors confirm that it was maggie that shot mr burns?
@@jay5ivez I agree
LanceInAustralia if you watch it you can hear a gunshot therefore there couldn’t have been a silencer
About the sunclock clue, I don’t think Mr. Burns would remember a random baby’s name, even if she’s the daughter of one employee. He always had to read the cards with the families’ information at his events to remember the names.
Your mystery videos are always amazing and clever. I will always love this amazing 2-part story. Great analysis of the classic season 6 event !
I can remember debating with my friends back then and I said it would be Maggie because they couldn't put her in jail.
But I like my tinfoil hat
Thank you for this entertaining video. My thoughts to this. The thing with the DNA proofs nothing, it is a full red herring. First in the scene of burns back flash at the ending of the second episode, where he struggled with Maggie, I do not see how an eyelash of Maggie could have flown out of the car at Mr. Burns. Secondly, why everyone thinks the moment of attempted murder is where the DNA is transfered? Homer was clearly hand on hand shaking Mr. Burns with his suit on in his office in the first episode. Thats where is DNA came on the suit. So the DNA says zero about the attempted murder... This opens the circle of suspects up to (almost) anyone again.
Another thought. No one, not a single person reported to have heard two shots. That means either, one of the shots where fired with a silencer, or Smithers shot at Jesper was already quite further away. Who had a silencer? Mr. Skinner. However he has an alibi. However, he reports to have switched cases with Mrs. Skinner (MS) or Skinners Mum (SM). So did she have the silencer? Nope, in the bathroom scene the silencer is lying there. So the shot must have been further away. This also eliminates Marge Simpsons as shooter, as she was in front of town hall when the shot was heared. She might still have collaborated though, but she couldn't have pulled the trigger. Also the main issue with the Marge theory is. She is an first class expert with guns. Burns would have not survived if Marge would have pulled the trigger.
While Marge kind of works in her behavior profile I find the whole Lisa theory way too shaggy. Also things I could not explain. Why does Lisa say, "Do not eat the evidence?" to Chief Wiggum? In the dream he eats a dough nut, out of the dream he drinks milk? It never is resolved. Is the bird in the dream also just a pop reference? Or do birds play a role? What does the pidgeon saying "clue clue clue" really say? But anyway, both it is a dream and an "animal talking", so can't take that too serious.
To make most sense. Questions that also never have been answered, where is everyone during the scene? Where was Homer? And Bart? And Lisa? And Grandpa? (to quote Marge) Where was the whole town? We know alibis only from: Smithers (on his way), Otto and Carl and Mrs. Skinner being in the town hall. Mr. Skinner and Chalmers in the bathroom. Marge Simpson and Jimbo being in front of town hall. Then when Mr. Burns collapses on the sun dial. Almost the whole town is suddendly there again. Also as you said, how come so many people being around that place no one saw anything? No one else went to their cars after the meeting??
How is that saying, When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth? This leaves in my opinion only one explanation that really works with common sense* and the facts given beyond symbolism. I think of it like murder on the orient express to take a classic. it was (almost) everyone! The whole town! Except the people we know have alibis, and possibly some other people excluded, like Wiggum with his police pals sitting in the car etc. But Homer, Lisa, Bart, Grandpa and half of the people of the meeting were involved. They overpowered Burns, shot him with his own gun and then decided at as group to blame it on the baby. Since they all where involved no one "seen" anything. Also the first hospital proclaimed Burns already as dead. And everyone was suddendly back after the deed was done. They were too involved. When Mr. Burns awoke he realized the whole town was against him and decided on the fly to go with them and blame the baby to save his life (similar like the detective in the orient express going an alternative random stranger explanation that did not involve everyone, to save his own guts). Mr. Burns collapsing on the sundial, was either Marge Simpson, to denote as one to be trusted, or he ment Whole of Springfield.
Anyway this has become a crazy conspiracy theory, hasn't it? :o)
Eventually maybe we shouldn't read too much into comics that make tons of other bloopers. For example in these two episodes the town halls parking lot is several times shown to be on the opposite side of the sundial. In the scene where Lisa revisits it (and the pidgeon screams clue) the parking lot has shifted to the side of the townhall? Is the clue that the parking lot can shift? Also the road access to the lot moves from left side to middle and back. There is a car on the lot that shifts colors between first episode and second episode. A clue? Not really, right? Springfields school has been shown in first episode to have the retirement home and moes bar as neighbours. But in the scene where the sunblocker is activated, neither are neighbours. Not really a clue too? So eventually lets just not read too much into it.
Unsure if this gets brought up in 2 or 3 but the revolver Homer has in the hospital is missing 2 bullets out of the cylinder. When the green box is shown after being dug up in the yard there is a single bullet left laying in the box. Mr Burns was shot once which accounts for the other missing bullet. 6 bullets in homers revolver, one in the box, one in Mr Burns. Homer’s gun was the gun that fired the shot.
Reading this has weirdly reminded me of a certain case from a certain lawyer game...
i think it's marge. mr burns clearly loved her, and so he blamed it on the baby so she wouldn't go to prison. as for the motive, isn't it obvious?
***** told you!!
+William Lea Would make sense... in his frighten state he was looking in Marge's direction and was getting ready to say her name and was stumbling on the "m" and in his panic to not get her in trouble, blurted out the first person that came close to Marge's name, which was Maggie...
Marge doesn't have Simpson dna.
It wasnt marge u can hear the shot wen the camara is on marge and a second later u see burns infront of marges view wen she turns around
I keep seeing people bring up Marge, which completely ignores the fact that SHE IS THE ONLY CHARACTER WHO COULD NOT POSSIBLY BE THE CULPRIT. We SEE her on the opposite side of the building from Mr Burns at the exact moment the gun was fired and the gunshot was heard.
Well it could easily be argued that Maggie's eyelash got on the suit during the struggle for the lollipop.
Burns could have been taking the lolly off of Maggie which would explain the Simpson DNA and someone stopped him by shooting him. That would also explain why Burns remembers that he was trying to take the lolly off of Maggie, he might not have remembered the actual shooter because of traumatic memory loss.
I love this episode since it's so unexpected who the killer is.
I look forward to more analyze videos like this.
*Who IS Eric Cartman's father?!*
Unironically want to see that
You deserve a lot more subscribers, you have professional production quality, you are informative and entertaining
Columbo is what is known as a "reverse mystery" which have actually been around about as long as Sherlock Holmes.
I think the bigger mystery is, if Krusty just got back in town after being on vacation, why did he stop at town hall, (where he knew everyone else was) before going home to drop off his luggage? Seems like he wanted an alibi, and witnesses to back it up.
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I am in love with your editing style
Dog with the shifty eyes did it. That's my head cannon .
Actually, the relative strength is a good clue because there is a struggle. Against, let's say Nelson there wouldn't be much of a struggle beyond a couple of strong strikes from Nelson felling Burns with ease.
Ha. Nice try but no
Well, I have a theory, may not be very logical, but... Well let's say that Sideshow Bob was released from jail on the day that Mr. Burns was shot, and Mr. Burns would know a little about Sideshow Bob's attempted murders, right? Anyways, we know that Sideshow Bob usually uses a knife to kill someone (AKA Bart, Selma, Krusty, and/or Lisa), but don't you all think that since he's a homocidal maniac, he'd know how to use a gun? Exactly, so if this were the case, Sideshow Bob could have shot Mr. Burns, how the Simpson's DNA gets into Mr. Burns' suit would be easy to figure out, Bob would secretly cut of one of Bart's hairs and put it into Mr. Burns' suit. The finger prints are harder, but Bob could have found some pictures of Homer's fingerprints and put them on the gun, after removing evidence that the fingerprints weren't real fingerprints. How the gun got left in the car is simple, Bob could have left the gun in the car to sabotage one of the Simpsons.
Super cool channel! Glad I found this!
These analysis videos are the reason this episode was made. It's work like this that just lets the episodes breathe with new life, as they were meant to
Actually earlier in the episode, Homer throttles Burns in his office. Due to Homer being balding, who's to say that Homer didn't lose a hair while throttling burns, landing on the suit.
Loved this! Going to shout it out on my Simpsons fan page.
I rewatch this every 2 months cause the videos are so well though out
I remember before part 2 aired I really sat down as a child and couldn’t figure this out at all.
These videos help keep me sane while feeding my newborn at all hours, thank you
Sideshow Mel was my main suspect that entire summer. Especially after I accidentally paused my VHS and caught that the gun was missing.
I think it actually makes sense as to why burns would accuse Maggie, even if someone else did it. Burns is so close to cartoonish super villainy that I’m sure that if he had the chance to take revenge on his shooter, he would do it on his own terms (probably with the personal touch of hired goons) and doesn’t want the police to stand in his way. Of course he accuses Maggie specifically because he knows she won’t face any consequences and she can’t speak for herself either way
The clocks were more than symbolic. The time 3PM was drilled into our head, along with the “Pardon My Zinger” commercial on Moe’s TV giving the time, to show Smithers didn’t do it.
This is too good! Can't wait (:
For those which still are searching the music, it is Radiowar - Intoxica
"Fictional murder victims are very considerate in that way." It's lines like this that keep me watching.
That Columbo line got me
Actually Burns and Homer are related, Burn's great great grandmother's brother married the sister of Homer's great great great grandfather
Also I believe the reason why Burns accused Maggie could've been that Homer threatens him with a pistol and since Burns is weak there would've been no reason to avoid the attack but to accuse Maggie of it since Bart, Lisa, Abe and Marge wouldn't have a lot of evidence against them
That DNA would be too distant to matter with so many generations of non reletives mixing in the DNA pool. At best, it would just show a faint DNA similarity.
MS means My Self as is a spoof on Dallas of Who shot J.R.
Actually your videos are kind of good and remind me of the Myths and Legends that are looked over in such games like Grand Theft Auto and Canis Canem Edit.
No one talks about Mr Snrub being the one who shot him
Jealous of his doppelgängers success, he wanted to take his place
And he succeeded
I don't know why but seeing Burns in stills makes me laugh. I didn't realize how much of his character was physical humor.
Obviously it was a situation of struggle and misfire since old fashioned revolvers don't safeties and maggie can't be held responsible since she is a baby.
I remember watching these episodes when they first aired. Guessing who was a big deal... i remember the contest. I don’t remember how I figured maggie, but I remember my brother freaking when maggie was revealed because that’s what I had said the week before.
Part 2 of Who Shot Mr. Burns was the first episode of the next season. Months after Part 1. Not the next week.
You know I really like this channel. You should make more videos.
2:58 “Santa’s little helper is a dog, and that solution would be stupid.” Like a baby wouldn’t be?
i think that's the joke
In a newer episode Homer admits he shot Mr. Burns and was glad he thought it was Maggie.
yep well that pretty much just about clears clarifies and covers it all up then now pretty much it was Homer Simpson who really done it who shot Mister Burns that time
The Old Man And The Lisa cemented the lore lmao
Nice but something important you missed from part one is that Mr Burns recognized his soon to be shooter before the struggle.
Guys what if it was Mr. Burn’s
He was their for the shooting, had a gun, and he had the perfect alibi being shot.
I figured it
Do more Simpsons mysteries
Yay u actuly did
What music are you using in this video? Its great! Especially around 4:30
I always rewatch the who shot mr.burns vids, every few months
Remember when Homer got so mad a Burns, and was like physically like pushing homer, (I really don't know how to describe it) And we have no reason to believe that he didn't change suits, so maybe that's how he got the Simpson DNA got on him.
Therealjimms: *shows homer shooting burns evidence in the intro*
Also therealjimms: *doesn't bring it up*
I'm 37 and I've two younger sisters. We grew up with Simpsons on Sky one in Ireland. Always taping them. It had a bunch of early Simpsons toys. Nelson came with a trash can, there was a Bartman one(early Simpsons merch always had that version around)Marge came with cookies and Maggie etc and each character had a speech balloon with interchangeable phrases. We had Simpsons Sing the Blues on cassette, we had all the trading cards, dolls, schoolbag, pencil case, pj's, comics everything. And every Sunday at 6pm Sky would broadcast a new episode. I STILL have a vivid memory of being out with my friends and all talking about the episode. We all had theories and OF COURSE an older cousin of a friend had a friend who seen the show in America and knew it was Smithers or Homer or whatever lol...
I remember being so excited for the episode and I had saved some money and had bought some sweets and Lucozade(a real treat when you are 10 in those days!) which was still in glass bottles then, and I remember our mam let us watch it in the sitting room on the 'big telly'... Which was rare even to be in that room! 😂
Next day of course in school all anyone was talking about was the show.
Good memories.
Much ☀ and 👍 and ♥ to all Simpsons fans out there.
3:46 I'm getting flashbacks to all of the video games I've played that revolve around a murder mystery where they write some dying message in blood. It's essentially one of the most used tropes in both Ace Attorney and Danganronpa.
Simpson DNA: Here's a thought of who it might have been...Mona Simpson, Homer's mother, she had a problem with Mr Burns from back in the 60s. Mona back for revenge? Hmm..think about it, she caught wind of the whole oil thing so she decided to come back to Springfield to wreak havoc and try and get the oil thing shut down. In doing so she ran into Burns he said "I think you'd better drop it" because she was holding up a sign or something else of some sort and in the struggle got access to his gun and shot him. Shocked by what she did and already in trouble with the law she then fled so everybody in Springfield was left holding the bag. Also the 'M' and 'S' on the clock could also stand for Mona Simpson. Nice going Mama Simpson, letting your baby granddaughter take the rap for you. Pretty plausible.."Who Shot Mr Burns Part 1" was Season 6 Episode 25, we didn't see Homer and his mother reunite until Season 7, Episode 8.
That would've been a really cool twist and introduction for her character. The only thing is that would mean Mona would essentially frame her own son, by planting the gun in the car
Didn't we have this alrea....... ohhhh Simpsons Mysteries! Hah, ok!
Very interesting video......... wait, it'll continue?! Oh MY!
I always thought it was Homer dressed as Krusty. After everyone gathers by the shot Burns, notice how the ‘Krusty’ model is the same as Homer’s except for the hair? (Nose and mouth structure, like from the clown college episode) also Krusty only returned from holiday at the time and was wearing different clothes.
Beating a polygraph is actually shockingly easy if you know what you're doing.
Kyle Mark Waal doesn't mean and dunderhead from Springfield can
The real jims asking the REAL questions out here.
If I was alive and a Simpsons fan back when this episode was new, I would've probably guessed Maggie as a joke. (damn it, I wish I was born earlier)
Although this doesn't come up until Part 2, I wonder if Wiggum referring to Tito Puente as "Mr Samba, Senor Mambo" was a reference to the M.S./S.M. initials. I also wonder if I've already posted this.
Barney. It was meant to be Barney but they decided against it last minute, that's why it was Maggie...
The most talked about Simpsons episode of all time.
we need that Skinner/Tanzerian one soon.
I think it almost has to be Maggie (besides it really being her), because she's the only one with ample opportunity. Anyone else would've needed to know, with almost certainty, that Burns would walk to the parking lot at that time, while also staying out of sight from Marge and anyone else who could've been in the parking lot.
Perhaps someone was following Burns, while also staying out of Jimbo's sight, as he was outside the Town Hall building as well.
really awesome :D
"good and evil there has always been a balance!"
It's easy to see why he accuses Maggie, he was stealing from her creating guilt and could only see her when he was shot.
Making him 100% believe it was her.
You can't tell me what to do with my tin foil hat!
Technically I don’t think Maggie could be help responsible for the incident because she didn’t even use the gun. It simply fell from Mr. Burn’s suit and went off as soon as it landed in her hands.
What episode does Maggie's shooting skills come into play again?
I KNEW it was from Sonic CD, I got stupid excited at the realization.