Dude, when dropping a third Gen tank, there ain’t no cutting corners. You have to drop everything back there. But I much rather see you struggle than cutting a hole in the hatch floor.. I’ll give you a 👍🏾 for that.
Thanks for making this. Looks like I need to do this to my '85 Z-28. Cranks over but no fuel-pump whine or gas to the carb. Looks like an awful job. Fourth gens can get away with cutting an access panel inside, but the way the hard-lines bend over the tank on the third-gen doesn't allow this with any ease.
My 89 firebird cranks. Have spark. The fuel pump primes as I turn key on. But I sense no fuel delivery. Could this be bad fuel pump? Btw-I Replaced fuel pressure regulator, fuel pump relay, the 20amp pump fuse near battery, distributor cap, rotor and ignition coil.
@@JacobKnightRiderShop yea. It's near full. I did mistankely twist the distributor cap counter and clockwise as I was working on the plug wires and such. Would turning the distributor plug wires cap cause the car to only crank but not start?
@@JacobKnightRiderShop thx. I straightened the cap back in position. I sprayed start fluid in throttle. It did try to fire after that. So I guess I'll try a new fuel pump relay. Than I'm hoping it's not the fuel pump itself
@@keithsummers3112 Thats once everything is setup to remove it. Takes more time removing all the bolts ect, expect to spend a half a day or so on the complete removal.
GM engineers should have been shot for not giving you a access panel from the inside of the car. That's a ridiculous amount of work to get to a $35 part. BS!
If GM added an access cover then the car costs more to build. In engineering we try to add all these cool features but each item adds to the cost of the car. Thus the return on investment is not there. The costs are sweated down to fractions of a cent when the production volumes are so high. This is really not an Engineering design issue but a cost control issue by the bean counters who want the car saleable. All the cool items us Engineers want are ranked by the costs involved and often times many features are not added. The costs controls are so extreme that different wiring harnesses are used to save the cost of having an unused wire.
For the future, cut a square out inside the rear hatch above the fuel pump, so it will be an easy change next time. Don't forget to make a cover to screw down when your done.
Not an easy task on a third-gen as, the hardline curves around the tank. You would need a mighty big hole. That does work on the later fourth-gens, but is still difficult to reach the fuel line connections through the hole.
Dude, when dropping a third Gen tank, there ain’t no cutting corners. You have to drop everything back there. But I much rather see you struggle than cutting a hole in the hatch floor.. I’ll give you a 👍🏾 for that.
I get people telling me to cut a hole, no thanks I dont want gas smell in the cabin, I get enough of that just from the open scoop hood
U just inspired me to not remove my tank. I will just pray that nothing too bad is in it
Thanks for making this. Looks like I need to do this to my '85 Z-28. Cranks over but no fuel-pump whine or gas to the carb. Looks like an awful job. Fourth gens can get away with cutting an access panel inside, but the way the hard-lines bend over the tank on the third-gen doesn't allow this with any ease.
Agree
You can get that transfer pump at harbor freight for $7.00 if you have a harber freight close to you. Just picked one up for my bird lol 😉
another informative video thank you!!!
Every firebird owner ever lol
You should use a brass punch to turn metal bezel that holds fuel pump in. So that you won't create sparks on your fuel tank!!!!!!
good idea.
hey man you seem to know alot about firebirds i just bought myself a 89 firebird and i wanted to know if i could ask you some questions
Sure! I also own an 89 Formula and a 91 Firebird convertible.
My 89 firebird cranks. Have spark. The fuel pump primes as I turn key on. But I sense no fuel delivery.
Could this be bad fuel pump?
Btw-I Replaced fuel pressure regulator, fuel pump relay, the 20amp pump fuse near battery, distributor cap, rotor and ignition coil.
You got enough gas in tank?
@@JacobKnightRiderShop yea. It's near full. I did mistankely twist the distributor cap counter and clockwise as I was working on the plug wires and such. Would turning the distributor plug wires cap cause the car to only crank but not start?
@@theoutlaw9043 just make sure distributers not 180 off as that would not allow it to start.
@@JacobKnightRiderShop thx. I straightened the cap back in position. I sprayed start fluid in throttle. It did try to fire after that. So I guess I'll try a new fuel pump relay. Than I'm hoping it's not the fuel pump itself
Does anyone know where I can get the bolts for the top brace and the size
Junk yard, or ebay...
How long did romoving the tank take?
I believe I an hour or so
@@JacobKnightRiderShop there's no way an hour to remove the tank.
@@keithsummers3112 Thats once everything is setup to remove it. Takes more time removing all the bolts ect, expect to spend a half a day or so on the complete removal.
Where is that fuse you touch comes from?
Can you show where this fuse conection starts and ends ?
I have this issue, theirs no current on the wiring for the fuel pump.I check the fuse box and relay .
Thank you!
We have the same car:) restoring mine right now
but mine is a 92 onvertable
Cut a fuel pump trap door. No more dropping tank.
yes but i dnt mind the pump should last about 20 years or so
Surely there is an inspection plate in the boot so you don't have to drop the whole tank?
Nope not on Third Gen Firebirds. People cut them sometimes but its not suppose to have one.
GM engineers should have been shot for not giving you a access panel from the inside of the car. That's a ridiculous amount of work to get to a $35 part. BS!
Yep and as I recall a real pain in the butt.
If GM added an access cover then the car costs more to build. In engineering we try to add all these cool features but each item adds to the cost of the car. Thus the return on investment is not there. The costs are sweated down to fractions of a cent when the production volumes are so high. This is really not an Engineering design issue but a cost control issue by the bean counters who want the car saleable. All the cool items us Engineers want are ranked by the costs involved and often times many features are not added. The costs controls are so extreme that different wiring harnesses are used to save the cost of having an unused wire.
@@3beltwesty Not to mention the added revenue for billable hours when the car comes back to the dealer for service! Cha Ching!
For the future, cut a square out inside the rear hatch above the fuel pump, so it will be an easy change next time. Don't forget to make a cover to screw down when your done.
Yea I didnt want to go that route. Gas smell is pretty bad as it is for these cars just from the windows down from the motor.
Not an easy task on a third-gen as, the hardline curves around the tank. You would need a mighty big hole. That does work on the later fourth-gens, but is still difficult to reach the fuel line connections through the hole.
@@MrSFSTUDIOS i did mine in about 15 minutes with tin snips, wish i could post a picture