So do I. Much better than crap that those c*nts in Wolfurt known as Doppelmayr produce. Doppelmayr can burn in hell for all I care, as can Leitner, Poma and Bartholet, they are all monopolistic predatory mainstream little shits that make already-perfect 20th-century lifts look unreliable when they aren't.
Pretty cool lift. It has been replaced due to a malfunction. But a pretty unique design, and I wish he'd used coil springs and maybe we'd still see new stuff from Yan today... 1:35: "How many sheaves wheels do you want on the bottom station depression assembly?" Jan: "Yes"
You can tell the spacing is all wonky......classic Yan rubber "springs"........as easy as it is to poke fun at these lifts, Yan detachables were super interesting.
LOL. It does have that typical Apple white colour to it. Yes, this lift has much nicer, more simple stations than something that would come from the c*nts in Wolfurt. But the grip is terrible. I'd build Yan Lifts with PROPER springs in the grips and maybe even an entire re-designed version of the Yan Grip, had I have the Yan Blueprints. I do have quite a few blueprints for certain detachable grips. Von Roll VR101, Wallmannsberger, Giovanola, Doppelmayr DS, Poma Type S(or Poma Sacmi), and the list goes on. All proper grips, those were when they were made. We should remanufacture the beautiful jewellery of the 20th-century that is far superior to a D-Line, a Uni-G, or a modern Leitner, a modern Poma(or Poma Multix), and a modern Bartholet and any other modern shit scrap piles of lifts still in production today.
Yan's abnehmbare Aufzüge waren in sehr fehlerhaftem Zustand, weil der Griff auf dem Lift war sehr locker und leicht zu rutschen. So bedeuteten ihre Aufzüge, dass sie ersetzt oder nachgerüstet werden mussten, und das ist vielleicht einer der NUR Yan Abziehbilder, um Original-YAN-Griffe zu haben.
Ou français ou italiens, vous êtes chiant à vous prendre pour le centre du monde. Regardez donc vos télécabines Doppelmayr de début 1980, c'est du même niveau que Poma en 1960, contrepoids, poulies double gorge, trois poulies dans une simple gare de télécabine, pylônes treillis et j'en passe et des meilleurs.
@@kouitou Or germans .. (First really successful ropeways were built by Bleichert-Germany + Zuegg-Southern Tyol ... one of those still in service in Germany built 1928 in original stadium) But anyway ... YANs idea was genius ... a clamp basing on his system would be cheap and secure ... just what he built was ... uhm well no comment The double clamps used for Doppelmayr lifts are by the way a relict of austrian laws ... they just wanted it that way (and i am really no friend of doppelmayr myself)
@@thomashirmer1105 Yan made a huge mistake by only developing their detachable chairlifts for one year. They didn't do enough tests to find out that rubber isn't the best material for springs.
@@nedakalTNT rubber wouldnt be the big problem ... the problem is rubber + cold weather but even nowadays it would be possible to build such clamps ... in the end you are right anyway ... yans idea was maybe a shot into the dark and one that was years to early
@@kouitou You're right. But let's be honest that Swiss manufacturers were in the 80's top of the world for aerial tramways - which Poma copied unsuccesfully and with some casulties even. But for sure the Poma Alpha stations were ahead of their time :-). Today all innovations come from Doppelmayr and Leitner but for sure Poma offers good quality as well.
Une question, qui assure le suivi d'un tel appareil ? Pour les pièces détachées ? Ils ont du faire venir des galets de secours des USA en prévision des années à venir, mais les pièces détachés pour les pinces et autre, généralement les employés qui font l'entretien des pinces suivent des stages de formation chez les constructeurs, mais la... Ont-ils récupérés des pinces complètes lors des modernisation des TSD YAN aux USA ? Quel dommage que ce grave incident est eu lieu, c'est sans aucun doute la fin d'autorisation d'exploitation définitive et le démontage, télésiège unique en Europe et peut-être dans le monde ? Existe-t-il encore un autre débrayable YAN qui fonctionne avec les pinces d'origine ?
Die Spanische Firma REAC importierte vermutlich die YAN Lift Teile. Ich kann mir vorstellen, dass mindestens ein Monteuer von Yan in Spanien war, um die Betriebsanleitung zu erklären. Mich würde es auch interessieren, wo sie Ersatzteile heute noch erhalten. In Spanien fährt die letzte Yan Sesselbahn mit Gummifedern an der Klemme. Im Iran ist noch eine in Betrieb (Isfahan) mit Pool X Klemmen. Die Gummifedern wurden ersetzt durch Stahlfedern.
1:50 that alinement on those cheves coming in is horrendous you can see the un evin wair on the liners from the bearings being bad or just pore or lack of alignment
Ah yes....the YAN "antlers" and rubber donuts"....another one of those great ideas....that, in the end, didn't work! To be fair it worked and worked very well in a great many circumstances. But it didn't on the Quicksilver chair on Whistler Mountain and that one accident spelled the end of YAN. www.coloradoskihistory.com/chairlift/yan2.html I was there that night...in the parking lot at the bottom of the lift listening to the mountain frequency on my handheld. LOUSY. To add a little context the lift was ordered and specked to be able to operate at 100% download/0% upload because it was known that at times of little snow on the bottom half of the mountain a great many skiers would elect to download from mid-station and even a line-up could develop at very peak times. There was a span that was very steep and it also happened to be a long one. There were several "phantom stops" prior to the accident that started a bit of a up-down, lazy, whip action on the cable. A hard stop happened and one grip failed sending the chair sliding down the wire until it crashed into the chair below it making that chair's grip fail....3-4 chairs sailed down the wire in a heap until they reached a tower where some crashed to the ground. I have to guess that this would never have happened in regular uploading under similar circumstances. The forces of a loaded chair going UPHILL and stopping suddenly would be less than one going DOWNHILL at 5m/s and suddenly stopping....but I'm not an engineer. If not for the Whistler accident there would probably still be dozens or hundreds of YAN high speed chairs operating in North America to this day. The earlier YAN fixed grip triples were certainly beautiful, simple, smooth lifts. Loved those.
@@francoislepine4698 sierra ski ranch, sunday river, and schweitzer all had publicised reports of serious accidents or chairs falling off. also, a majority of the resorts that owned these had to run their lifts for hours before the start of the day to fix the chair spacing because the chairs would slip so far overnight. there were a few yan detachables that didnt have problems, but they probably wouldve been replaced by now due to age or the unintuitive terminal design which, while sleek and modern looking, made performing maintanance a nightmare
@@boxplot13 that was a saying on a t-shirt I had. I liked some things about LE (Yan) but stainless steel grips tend to work harden thus prone to cracks. And though there was to much field welding that could lead to loss of quality control, he never built 2 lifts the same (came to work every morning with a napkin and a new idea). If Janic and Pomagaske had remained together we would have seen great things.
@@nedakalTNT Yan's detachable grips had VERY bad springs. Many detachable lifts built by Yan had the grips slipping off and forcing either replacement of the whole lift or grip replacement, or retrofitment.
I would NOT ride a chair lift with these types of grips. The quicksilver lift accident resulted in at least 2 deaths from these grips failing and led to YAN lifts going out of business. Click on this link for all the ugly details. www.coloradoskihistory.com/chairlift/yanlifts.html
Only a chairlift in Isfahan has these grips... Safer versions thankfully. But yeah I would be scared to ride on a detachable Yan too. Thankfully in Val D'Isere we had fixed grip Yans, MILES safer than Yan's really bad idea of putting fucking rubber springs into their grips... What were they thinking?!
As problematic as Yan's detachable grips were, I love that station design.
So do I. Much better than crap that those c*nts in Wolfurt known as Doppelmayr produce. Doppelmayr can burn in hell for all I care, as can Leitner, Poma and Bartholet, they are all monopolistic predatory mainstream little shits that make already-perfect 20th-century lifts look unreliable when they aren't.
Pretty cool lift. It has been replaced due to a malfunction. But a pretty unique design, and I wish he'd used coil springs and maybe we'd still see new stuff from Yan today...
1:35: "How many sheaves wheels do you want on the bottom station depression assembly?"
Jan: "Yes"
You can tell the spacing is all wonky......classic Yan rubber "springs"........as easy as it is to poke fun at these lifts, Yan detachables were super interesting.
Yes Yan lifts are very interesting. Simple construction, beautiful architecture
If Apple designed a chairlift, the iLift, it would have terminals that looked like this. I love the white, sleek design!
Me too. I wish they just replaced the faulty grips and not rebuilt the terminals with whatever ugly Poma challenger terminals they had at the time.
LOL. It does have that typical Apple white colour to it. Yes, this lift has much nicer, more simple stations than something that would come from the c*nts in Wolfurt. But the grip is terrible.
I'd build Yan Lifts with PROPER springs in the grips and maybe even an entire re-designed version of the Yan Grip, had I have the Yan Blueprints. I do have quite a few blueprints for certain detachable grips. Von Roll VR101, Wallmannsberger, Giovanola, Doppelmayr DS, Poma Type S(or Poma Sacmi), and the list goes on. All proper grips, those were when they were made. We should remanufacture the beautiful jewellery of the 20th-century that is far superior to a D-Line, a Uni-G, or a modern Leitner, a modern Poma(or Poma Multix), and a modern Bartholet and any other modern shit scrap piles of lifts still in production today.
Die Stütze bei 3:30 wackelt aber ganz schön stark!
That tower be moving..marshmallow grip. Grip slipping
3:47 my favourite sond
Yan's abnehmbare Aufzüge waren in sehr fehlerhaftem Zustand, weil der Griff auf dem Lift war sehr locker und leicht zu rutschen. So bedeuteten ihre Aufzüge, dass sie ersetzt oder nachgerüstet werden mussten, und das ist vielleicht einer der NUR Yan Abziehbilder, um Original-YAN-Griffe zu haben.
3:30 is that the pole moving
Never seen such a railway... I'm happy that I can sit in ropeways that are built by constructors from Austria or Switzerland
Ou français ou italiens, vous êtes chiant à vous prendre pour le centre du monde. Regardez donc vos télécabines Doppelmayr de début 1980, c'est du même niveau que Poma en 1960, contrepoids, poulies double gorge, trois poulies dans une simple gare de télécabine, pylônes treillis et j'en passe et des meilleurs.
@@kouitou Or germans .. (First really successful ropeways were built by Bleichert-Germany + Zuegg-Southern Tyol ... one of those still in service in Germany built 1928 in original stadium)
But anyway ... YANs idea was genius ... a clamp basing on his system would be cheap and secure ... just what he built was ... uhm well no comment
The double clamps used for Doppelmayr lifts are by the way a relict of austrian laws ... they just wanted it that way (and i am really no friend of doppelmayr myself)
@@thomashirmer1105 Yan made a huge mistake by only developing their detachable chairlifts for one year. They didn't do enough tests to find out that rubber isn't the best material for springs.
@@nedakalTNT rubber wouldnt be the big problem ... the problem is rubber + cold weather but even nowadays it would be possible to build such clamps ... in the end you are right anyway ... yans idea was maybe a shot into the dark and one that was years to early
@@kouitou You're right. But let's be honest that Swiss manufacturers were in the 80's top of the world for aerial tramways - which Poma copied unsuccesfully and with some casulties even. But for sure the Poma Alpha stations were ahead of their time :-). Today all innovations come from Doppelmayr and Leitner but for sure Poma offers good quality as well.
I heard the resort is replacing this chair with a six-pack.
yes
Bullshit with the new 6-seaters.
HELL YEAH with the old detachable lifts.
Une question, qui assure le suivi d'un tel appareil ? Pour les pièces détachées ? Ils ont du faire venir des galets de secours des USA en prévision des années à venir, mais les pièces détachés pour les pinces et autre, généralement les employés qui font l'entretien des pinces suivent des stages de formation chez les constructeurs, mais la... Ont-ils récupérés des pinces complètes lors des modernisation des TSD YAN aux USA ?
Quel dommage que ce grave incident est eu lieu, c'est sans aucun doute la fin d'autorisation d'exploitation définitive et le démontage, télésiège unique en Europe et peut-être dans le monde ? Existe-t-il encore un autre débrayable YAN qui fonctionne avec les pinces d'origine ?
Die Spanische Firma REAC importierte vermutlich die YAN Lift Teile. Ich kann mir vorstellen, dass mindestens ein Monteuer von Yan in Spanien war, um die Betriebsanleitung zu erklären. Mich würde es auch interessieren, wo sie Ersatzteile heute noch erhalten.
In Spanien fährt die letzte Yan Sesselbahn mit Gummifedern an der Klemme. Im Iran ist noch eine in Betrieb (Isfahan) mit Pool X Klemmen. Die Gummifedern wurden ersetzt durch Stahlfedern.
Merci ! Intéressant le télésiège Isfahan
1:50 that alinement on those cheves coming in is horrendous you can see the un evin wair on the liners from the bearings being bad or just pore or lack of alignment
yea
What year will they build the trashy new lift and replace this nice lift.
@@nedakalTNT I know it has shitty grips but why does every ski resort have so much hatred to nostalgic lifts nowadays?!?!?!
5:21 - 5:50 pay attention to the chair spacing 😂
Cool, Yan Lift hat ausser der Sicherheit noch schöne Bahnen gebaut. Steht die eigentlich noch?
die Bahn im Video wurde 2019 ersetzt durch Leitner, nachdem im Februar 2019 ein Sessel runtergefallen ist. Es sind keine Personen zu schaden gekommen.
@@ropewaygrips schade war eine schöne Bahn😥
Ah yes....the YAN "antlers" and rubber donuts"....another one of those great ideas....that, in the end, didn't work! To be fair it worked and worked very well in a great many circumstances.
But it didn't on the Quicksilver chair on Whistler Mountain and that one accident spelled the end of YAN. www.coloradoskihistory.com/chairlift/yan2.html
I was there that night...in the parking lot at the bottom of the lift listening to the mountain frequency on my handheld. LOUSY.
To add a little context the lift was ordered and specked to be able to operate at 100% download/0% upload because it was known that at times of little snow on the bottom half of the mountain a great many skiers would elect to download from mid-station and even a line-up could develop at very peak times. There was a span that was very steep and it also happened to be a long one.
There were several "phantom stops" prior to the accident that started a bit of a up-down, lazy, whip action on the cable. A hard stop happened and one grip failed sending the chair sliding down the wire until it crashed into the chair below it making that chair's grip fail....3-4 chairs sailed down the wire in a heap until they reached a tower where some crashed to the ground.
I have to guess that this would never have happened in regular uploading under similar circumstances. The forces of a loaded chair going UPHILL and stopping suddenly would be less than one going DOWNHILL at 5m/s and suddenly stopping....but I'm not an engineer.
If not for the Whistler accident there would probably still be dozens or hundreds of YAN high speed chairs operating in North America to this day.
The earlier YAN fixed grip triples were certainly beautiful, simple, smooth lifts. Loved those.
very interesting, thank you guy
Nah resorts still wouldve replaced them eventually. There are so many incidents involving these lifts of chairs falling off, not just quicksilver
@@jahterminatedlmao5473 reference?
@@francoislepine4698 sierra ski ranch, sunday river, and schweitzer all had publicised reports of serious accidents or chairs falling off. also, a majority of the resorts that owned these had to run their lifts for hours before the start of the day to fix the chair spacing because the chairs would slip so far overnight. there were a few yan detachables that didnt have problems, but they probably wouldve been replaced by now due to age or the unintuitive terminal design which, while sleek and modern looking, made performing maintanance a nightmare
not a real Yan lift, none of the chairs fell off!
lol
YAN...your airborne now
What do you mean?
@@boxplot13 that was a saying on a t-shirt I had. I liked some things about LE (Yan) but stainless steel grips tend to work harden thus prone to cracks. And though there was to much field welding that could lead to loss of quality control, he never built 2 lifts the same (came to work every morning with a napkin and a new idea). If Janic and Pomagaske had remained together we would have seen great things.
a chair fell off of this lift
When? Yesterday? In Espot, Spain?
accident with people?
@@ropewaygrips a couple days ago www.nevasport.com/noticias/art/56692/espot-queda-cerrada-sin-fecha-de-apertura-por-la-averia-de-un-telesilla/
@@ropewaygrips i don't know why it fell off
@@nedakalTNT Yan's detachable grips had VERY bad springs. Many detachable lifts built by Yan had the grips slipping off and forcing either replacement of the whole lift or grip replacement, or retrofitment.
I would NOT ride a chair lift with these types of grips. The quicksilver lift accident resulted in at least 2 deaths from these grips failing and led to YAN lifts going out of business. Click on this link for all the ugly details. www.coloradoskihistory.com/chairlift/yanlifts.html
Only a chairlift in Isfahan has these grips... Safer versions thankfully. But yeah I would be scared to ride on a detachable Yan too. Thankfully in Val D'Isere we had fixed grip Yans, MILES safer than Yan's really bad idea of putting fucking rubber springs into their grips... What were they thinking?!