🤣 You mean people that step/jump putt can learn not be dependent on jumping or stepping. The issue is with jump/step putters violating the rule, try to keep up. Maybe try a lighter putter if you need to jump to get it more than 33 feet. 😆
Dumb suggestion from Bjerkaas.. That simply moves illegal putts out to 20+, instead of 10+. This doesn't solve the problem - and very obviously so. Also, a 20m circle has a circumference of 125-metres compared to 63-metres. Who's gonna mark out a circle that large? It's bad enough marking out 10m circles for an event!
Its so hard to stand still putt from 66' or 20 meters. I think this will take a lot of the fun out of the game as putting will now be too hard. I could see the pro tour going to this but all sanctioned events is so dumb to me. Why do they just assume doubling it. What the stats there. Basketball didn't extend the 3point line by a factor of 2. Just seems like a lame excuse to not fix the rule that is in place. like say one foot must stay on the ground at all times or something along those lines.
or even say capping it at 15 meters or 50 ft. Plus you have to take into account all of the female players and how far that would be for them too. Or just modify the existing rule and keep things the same distances
You should just make comments without thinking or listening. Basketball has refs to call rule violations, you know, like being behind the three point line when you shoot a 3. Does disc golf have someone watching every putt? Should it be up to player's to call faults on other's in disc golf? Is it easy to see if someone foot faulted live? Does disc golf use instant reply?
2:16 here’s what I have to say about the putting there is a way to standardize baskets and make putting more difficult at the same time which would negate the whole circle change in my opinion and that is make the pro tour play on marksmanship baskets 💯🤷♂️
@@DolphaysDiscGolf Because it's unimportant that player's consistently violate rules, so long as it's easy to record the result they got through cheating?
@@ragebaitcommenter How did you get that's he's "mad" with him being in favor of making it more difficult? 😂 If anything it sounds like you're terrified you won't be able to foot fault every putt.
Keep the rule the way it is or allow step and jump putts from any distance. It’s a putting technique. People use different run up techniques why not allow different putting techniques.
Glad I adopted a strong spin putt when i started playing. I always thought it was funny, those players that are desperate to be just outside of c1 just to jump putt. seems like a crutch but w/e
I don't think a 20m circle is gonna work at all competitive levels. I think the best options are 1) 15 meters for all PDGA-events 2) 20m for pro MPO, 15m for pro FPO & ama MPO, 10m for ama FPO and age restricted divisions
When it comes to rules they should always use the KISS method. Keep it simple stupid. Rules should be made for all to be able to play the game. Rules should not be made for players that don’t like the rules. Just my opinion. To each their own.
I agree with the no step putt rule, people can learn how to putt without stepping over their disc, thats the rule for every other shot you take, so why do people think it's OK when your that close to the basket. Jump putters are a problem
Rule change? Heck, I’m still waiting for the existing rule of time limit to be consistently called and enforced. Maybe I’ve watched too many other professional sports that have time rules (eg NBA 24 second clock) and as a result I have unrealistic expectations that “professional” and “rule violations have actual consequences” should go hand in hand.
@ I’m merely suggesting that it would go a long way in making disc golf being taken seriously as a sport if rules already in place would have consequences when violated. Demonstrate willingness to implement existing rules before introducing new ones.
@@harleybk3 🤣 And which magical disc golf officials would be closely watching every release of the disc on every card? THE RULE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULTY ENFORCING IT.
Pretty sure there are other ways of getting a disc to fly besides jump/step putts. Where does it say fpo and am's should have the same opportunity to make longer putts as mpo?
@@schmoe5070 I don’t think that making it easier to score makes a sport more beginner friendly. Of course I know players who play actual courses based on what the “feel” the pars should be (eg they call a par 3 a par 4 because they can’t regularly par the hole), so I guess I can see your point.
@@schmoe5070 Because most beginner's have a dialed in step or jump putt? And most beginner's are tracking every round they shoot? And please list all the sports that are supposed to be easy so beginner's can play? Ever tried golf? How should they change that so everyone can shoot under par with limited skill?
So this putting rule proposal is for pro's, right? How many ams are really making a lot of 60-foot putts. Let the DGPT make whatever rules they want, but remember that almost all PDGA members are ams.
Or maybe it's only terrible player's that can't put enough speed on a disc without jumping or stepping? Why do you need so much help getting a disc 33 ft? Do you take jump shots from the free throw line?
Just remove all jumping. At no point anywhere on the course should your feet be off the ground when throwing a disc. This would prevent people "Stepping" out of a bush jail and throwing 90eg up/down a fairway when they really didn't have the reach without the rear foot having moved from the marker. (Funny thing is, apart from top players, most I watch attempting jump putts usually throw a worse shot than if they just did a standstill upshot.)
People who don’t step putt can learn how to step putt if they want the same distance advantage.
🤣 You mean people that step/jump putt can learn not be dependent on jumping or stepping. The issue is with jump/step putters violating the rule, try to keep up. Maybe try a lighter putter if you need to jump to get it more than 33 feet. 😆
Do you guys see that GK put out an announcement that they're starting their own tour
@@charlesbolstridge3871
Curious for more information
Did you listen to the announcement where they're not called "GK" anymore? 🤣
@stitch438 obviously I seen it, but if they had it they wouldn't know that GK had changed to go through. Duh
Dumb suggestion from Bjerkaas..
That simply moves illegal putts out to 20+, instead of 10+.
This doesn't solve the problem - and very obviously so.
Also, a 20m circle has a circumference of 125-metres compared to 63-metres. Who's gonna mark out a circle that large? It's bad enough marking out 10m circles for an event!
I think Jump or step putting should be illegal anywhere on the course and get rid of lines drawn completely.
Its so hard to stand still putt from 66' or 20 meters. I think this will take a lot of the fun out of the game as putting will now be too hard. I could see the pro tour going to this but all sanctioned events is so dumb to me. Why do they just assume doubling it. What the stats there. Basketball didn't extend the 3point line by a factor of 2. Just seems like a lame excuse to not fix the rule that is in place. like say one foot must stay on the ground at all times or something along those lines.
or even say capping it at 15 meters or 50 ft. Plus you have to take into account all of the female players and how far that would be for them too. Or just modify the existing rule and keep things the same distances
You should just make comments without thinking or listening. Basketball has refs to call rule violations, you know, like being behind the three point line when you shoot a 3. Does disc golf have someone watching every putt? Should it be up to player's to call faults on other's in disc golf? Is it easy to see if someone foot faulted live? Does disc golf use instant reply?
2:16 here’s what I have to say about the putting there is a way to standardize baskets and make putting more difficult at the same time which would negate the whole circle change in my opinion and that is make the pro tour play on marksmanship baskets 💯🤷♂️
And how is that going to remedy foot faults by jump/step putting? You're not understanding the issue.
Why don’t they fix their crappy scoring app instead of deciding to reinvent the wheel on C2 putts?
They should have just left it with U-Disc in my opinion 🤷♂️💯
@ 💯 !!!
How does the app call foot faults?
@ it doesn’t. But the PDGA forced everyone to use an app that barely works. And instead of fixing it this is their focus??
@@DolphaysDiscGolf Because it's unimportant that player's consistently violate rules, so long as it's easy to record the result they got through cheating?
Good!! Athletes can putt just fine from circle 2 without jumping or stepping. We need this to separate the pros from the Joe's.
You sound mad bro
@@ragebaitcommenter How did you get that's he's "mad" with him being in favor of making it more difficult? 😂 If anything it sounds like you're terrified you won't be able to foot fault every putt.
Keep the rule the way it is or allow step and jump putts from any distance. It’s a putting technique. People use different run up techniques why not allow different putting techniques.
Glad I adopted a strong spin putt when i started playing. I always thought it was funny, those players that are desperate to be just outside of c1 just to jump putt. seems like a crutch but w/e
As a player who stopped jump putting I fully endorse this change.
Looking forward to see what Schusterick does with Prodigy.
The proposed C2 rule for junp putts would force TD's to mark the C2 line on every hole. That's not going to happen.
I love the proposed rule change! I'm nowhere near a pro and have no problem stand stilling a 65-footer
rofl, FPO would be a disaster.
I don't think a 20m circle is gonna work at all competitive levels. I think the best options are
1) 15 meters for all PDGA-events
2) 20m for pro MPO, 15m for pro FPO & ama MPO, 10m for ama FPO and age restricted divisions
When it comes to rules they should always use the KISS method.
Keep it simple stupid.
Rules should be made for all to be able to play the game. Rules should not be made for players that don’t like the rules.
Just my opinion. To each their own.
Lame rule change. Why not feet instead of meters that would be a better change.
Yes, 50 feet would make the most sense to me.
I agree with the no step putt rule, people can learn how to putt without stepping over their disc, thats the rule for every other shot you take, so why do people think it's OK when your that close to the basket. Jump putters are a problem
Rule change? Heck, I’m still waiting for the existing rule of time limit to be consistently called and enforced. Maybe I’ve watched too many other professional sports that have time rules (eg NBA 24 second clock) and as a result I have unrealistic expectations that “professional” and “rule violations have actual consequences” should go hand in hand.
Ah, that's why there is talk about changing the rule, it's very difficult to call foot faults. Way to listen and think!!!
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I’m merely suggesting that it would go a long way in making disc golf being taken seriously as a sport if rules already in place would have consequences when violated. Demonstrate willingness to implement existing rules before introducing new ones.
@@harleybk3 🤣 And which magical disc golf officials would be closely watching every release of the disc on every card? THE RULE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULTY ENFORCING IT.
@@stitch438
I agree. If there is no intention of enforcing a rule, there is no need to have the rule.
This whole UA-cam channel is just complaining and bitching 😂
Step putting from 33ft makes me want to stop watching sport. How about no step putting period.
I would def lose interest if they shrink the basket. That debate, is to much tinkering on a good thing.
what's the problem with it?
The rule would eliminate step and jump putting inside circle 2 So 66 feet or 20 meters.
gannon buff
I can’t imagine the female pros or amateurs being able to get it there from 20 m
Pretty sure there are other ways of getting a disc to fly besides jump/step putts. Where does it say fpo and am's should have the same opportunity to make longer putts as mpo?
@ it would result in less made putts making the game way less fun and way less beginner friendly as well .
@@schmoe5070
I don’t think that making it easier to score makes a sport more beginner friendly. Of course I know players who play actual courses based on what the “feel” the pars should be (eg they call a par 3 a par 4 because they can’t regularly par the hole), so I guess I can see your point.
@@schmoe5070 Because most beginner's have a dialed in step or jump putt? And most beginner's are tracking every round they shoot? And please list all the sports that are supposed to be easy so beginner's can play? Ever tried golf? How should they change that so everyone can shoot under par with limited skill?
Jump putts are awsome why make the sport more boring
So this putting rule proposal is for pro's, right? How many ams are really making a lot of 60-foot putts. Let the DGPT make whatever rules they want, but remember that almost all PDGA members are ams.
It's only terrible putters that complain about jump putts. Instead of crying get good scrubs.
Or maybe it's only terrible player's that can't put enough speed on a disc without jumping or stepping? Why do you need so much help getting a disc 33 ft? Do you take jump shots from the free throw line?
@stitch438 I don't jump or step putts and have no issue keeping up. Keep whining about being bad snowflake
@@stitch438 I don't jump or step putt. Get good scrub
@@jokerzyo You just miss and complain, got it.
@stitch438 your the only one whinig about shots cupcake
Just remove all jumping. At no point anywhere on the course should your feet be off the ground when throwing a disc. This would prevent people "Stepping" out of a bush jail and throwing 90eg up/down a fairway when they really didn't have the reach without the rear foot having moved from the marker.
(Funny thing is, apart from top players, most I watch attempting jump putts usually throw a worse shot than if they just did a standstill upshot.)