"Il grande Inquisitor" - Cesare SIEPI e Giulio NERI - DON CARLO
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Giuseppe Verdi (1813-1901)
DON CARLO
"Il grand'Inquisitor!"
Filippo II - CESARE SIEPI
L'Inqusitore - GIULIO NERI
Coro del Maggio Musicale Fiorentino
1956
When Giants walked the Earth
Two giants on the stage, what a lucky crowd
Due bassi così immensi adesso non esistono in nessuna parte del mondo. Fantastico!
Those "perché"s by Neri sound like a fcking nuke, massive.
due giganti della lirica.
due leoni !
sublimi entrambi !
Sottopongo un parallelo:
Lloyd/Rouleau ROH, 1985 Haitink.
ua-cam.com/video/nLwOmvC-EqM/v-deo.html
Comincia a 2:17.
Mi pare eccellente.
Lions Indeed!!!
Can't decide who of theese two I like better... They are the greatest italian basses...
STRAORDINARI!!!DUE COLOSSI DELLA LIRICA!!!DUE VERI BASSI!!!
ACCENTO VERDIANO AL MASSIMO DELL ESPRESSIONE!!!Grazie di ❤👍per la condivisione
Semplicemente stupendo così si canta da basso.
Così si canta per qualsiasi voce!
Oh cruel Verdi! Often he wrote really high notes for low voices. The Grand Inquisitor is a deep bass (maybe even basso profundo) with a few high Fs!
He did the same thing with Asucena - very uncomfortable high C for low mezzo! Yes, Meyerber wrote high Cs for mezzos often, but not such suicidal as Asucena's high C.
A basso profondo (very low bass) should have rock-solid command of top F. All the great bassi profondi of yesteryear did: Mardones. DeAngelis. List. Kipnis. Weber. Moll. And of course Neri. To cite just some examples.
@@andrewmargrave7518yup. really no excuse for opera singers (even the lowest profundos) to not have an f
Yes, but this recording is a half step down. He does not sing the high F. It's an E.
Che basso profondo 'sto Neri!
Giulio Neri è IL basso profondo! Un colosso!
Devi sentireil suo intero Mefistofele di Boito
Ok, like….is this real? Siepi and Neri? Together???????
Questi 2 mostri sacri, sicuramente, non avevano bisogno di scurire o sovracolorare il suono.....
Siepi incredibile
Two voices ideally suited to their respective roles.
Che meraviglia, due mostri sacri,due strepitose leggende,qualche giorno fa Don Carlo alla Scala vergognoso.
Credo che Cesare Siepi sia un mito insuperabile nel suo registro. Super !
si ma erà solo la metà del grande Neri
Due mostri sacri assieme: SUBLIME! ❣❤💋
Neri died young of a brain tumor. Siepi himself said that "if he had lived he would have put us all out business."
Judging by this excerpt, Siepi himself had nothing to worry about.
Mori improvisamente da un attaco cardiaco.
....how modest of this icon of singing. Cesare Siepi will be one of the voices of his century and an example for every Basso generation to come. Mi piace moltissimo
Dear Mr. Shore, since I know you were a common presence at the MET, can I ask you if Siepi told you this personally? Thanks for sharing your knowledge of the operatic world in many videos and comments.
@@diegoreviati5166 I was NOT a common presence at the Met and one of Siepi's best friends told me the story.
Divini entrambi!!!
Loro rappresentano LA SCUOLA italiana del BELCANTO!
6:42 wow
Of all the basses who sang King Phillip Siepi had the best 2 octave run at the end of this scene.
I've a friend who sang in the chorus for Parsival... Siepi was the magnificent Gurnemanz... my friend told me that not only was his singing unforgettable, but that he was also quite the gentleman.
Also his Don Giovanni with Furtwängler at Salzburg is one of the best I have ever heard.
Siepi,Pinza and Ghiaurov were able to sing all written for bass,even some bariton roles.
He sang this role at San Jose Opera. Overpowering! The greatest singing actor of all. Don Basilio in an hysterically funny performance at SF Opera. An elegant and unsurpassed Don Giovanni there as well. Truly the greatest bass/baritone ever.
In 1973, James Levine tried to talk Tito Gobbi into learning and performing the role of the Grand Inquisitor. Of course Gobbi, a middle-of-the-road baritone, would have been miscast out of his mind in that part. Nevertheless Gobbi began to learn the part. Then one night, while sleeping, Gobbi dreamed that Neri, who by then had been dead for nearly fifteen years, and who did have the right sort of voice for the Inquisitor, came by and said, "Tito, é non per te" (Tito, it is not for you). The very next day, Gobbi notified Levine that he was not going to attempt that role after all.
Very interesting
Серьезные разборки у мужиков...страшно , однако...
meravigliosi entrambi.
Solo un genio inigualable e irrepetible como Verdi pudo crear algo como esto, un dúo entre dos bajos, con tal musicalidad, fuerza y majestuosidad, que por los siglos nos seguirá impresionando. En el caso de esta versión casi casi perfecta, dos monstruos en el mejor sentido de la palabra. Siepi creo que es Felipe II por excelencia...y que decir de Neri, bajo profundo por excelencia.
My favourite Philip-Inquisitor pairing, because they are the perfect examples of the difference between a basso cantante and a basso profondo. In some cases, like Christoff/Neri, they sound equally dark, but these two are very distinct.
I'm a big fan of basses, so this duet is perfection.
Who is the bass cantante? You must learn a little more.
A basso profundo and a basso cantante are two forms of the bass voice. A basso cantante has a higher rich quality than the deep, low, dark, and cavernous quality of the basso profundo. In Italian, the term basso cantante means "singing bass." He can sing as low as it goes, but can ascend to a high notes that is nearby close to a baritone range. Not all basses did this role, there are some called bass-baritones, who are bass singers that sing with a natural baritone texture. The example of a true bass voice is that at the end of the duet, Philip sings with a high F, but sings down to a low F with the phrase, "dunque il trono piegar dovra sempre all'tare!" which means "So, then the throne shall bend down before the altar shall!" The cantante is Siepi. The profondo is Neri.
I think you appreciate this:
Lloyd/Rouleau ROH, 1985, Haitink
ua-cam.com/video/nLwOmvC-EqM/v-deo.html
Starts at 2:17.
Bravo!
"Basso cantante" literally means "singing bass". "Basso profondo" literally means "deep bass". They are the two versions of the true bass voice. The terminologies are actually misnomers, because any good singer of any voice category is singing, and any true bass voice is deep. A more accurate terminology is "low bass" (cantante) and "very low bass" (profondo).
dios mio CUAN DIOS ERES NERI........ te fuiste muy temprano.....
das waren sänger
Who are the two amoebae who do not like this, I wonder!
Амебы умеют делиться, их уже три
ZWEI GIGANTEN DER OPERNGESCHICHTE
Siepi sublime, quel timbre, quelle classe.
A brilliant performance of this difficult dramatic duet. Siepi and Neri were well matched.
vaya dos genios
Actually the word/note SIRE for the Inquisitor ends on a low E, not an E flat. Some basses take the optional B natural.
Thats right
Oh Dio, perché non abbiamo più cantanti come questi oggi?
Pois o nível dos espectadores de ópera também caiu.
@@vitormrmrsi è no...non esistono cantanti del genere in quest'epoca!!! Gli spettatori si adeguano a quello che gli viene offerto,quindi è scesa la qualità dei cantanti e delle voci...io penso questo
i due piu' grandi bassi di tutti i tempi!!!!!!!!
Due mostri
Non esistono più voci di basso cosí
duetto eseguito in maniera superba!!!
What titans, they could make mountains crumble
Magnifici
Mutants. That's all I can say ;)
Trudno zrobić to lepiej choć może lepiej gdyby nie było tematu.Dziękuję. POZDRAWIAM.
straordinaria interpretazione sarebbe interessante saperne di più. chi dirige? che anno? dove?
Antonino Votto (Firenze 1956)
Люблю.
Gia non esiste, e estinto!
I enjoy the Siepi and Hines version more when it comes to showing contrast between the two, but my favorite version of this duet is siepi and macurdy (macurdy being the inquisitore) because of the sheer beauty of his low E (and the sheer power in his voice). Macurdy was very underrated.
una bella lotta tra loro e il duo Ghiaurov- Talvela
+Francesco Ponti Vero...il suo commento lo condivido...grazie
Braviiiiiiiiiiii🎉🎉🎉
Unici
ZWEI ABSOLUTE SUPERSTARS❤
Сьепи вне конкуренции!
Sam Ramey's the one Basso I know of who can sing both of these rolls.... I think Cesare Siepe is one of the greatest singers of the 20th Century. Such elegance, power, and clarity!
Did you listened Giulio Neri? As a bass Giulio Neri was one of the best of the century. Please, get information about him.
Neri is amazing. I love his singing. Few singers have come along with that kind of a voice, and more importantly, the ability to sing beautifully with that voice.
my dear Ramey compared with those voices may be classified as light baritone
Jerome Hines sang both roles with great success.
@@gerardomalzone1281 dear sir, try to listen to Ramey with Ghiaurov in this duet and then know how to tell me how baritone he is..then I was lucky enough to hear him live several times when he was fit .. let's say that compared to other basses that hang themselves in the register acute he was one of the few who knew how to turn the treble correctly and then he could give some the idea of a baritone but if you then listen to the medium and serious notes you can very well think again. Certainly we are not at the level of these two titans (Siepi e Neri) as vocal range but certainly it was a Rossini bass singer who knew how to make a great Verdi. Unfortunately he declined prematurely but certainly not because of the technique and those who know him or they sing in theaters they know why.
Apart from the low Eb (for which Verdi provided an ossia), the part of the Inquisitor is actually quite high with a few high Fs in addition to a generally high tessitura. I do not really find Mr Neri's high notes that impressive (I have heard many better in this part).
Isn't Inquisitor low note an E natural?
@@grouchomarx5609 Yes it is thats right E natural. And I agree that Neris high notes were a little pinched.
Ive just listened to a 1954 recording by Gabriele Santini in Rome & Giulio Neris voice was much stronger. This is 1956. You should listen to that recording with Boris Christoff.
У Сьепи как будто жует что то и поет) как из бочки)