I read Annies mothers blog, written in swedish, and found something significant that I want to correct. The blog says that her hair was cut to the length of 10- 15cm, which means about 60- 70cm was missing, not the other way around. Almost her entire hair was cut off.
Since long hair gets so easily tangled up when swimming, I feel like it would be a complete mat if she had been tossled around in the water and therefore seeming much shorter to the funeral people. Maybe they thought it would make her more presentable if they cut it off?
Ya that is pretty sketchy and it's really common for killers to return to the scene of the crime so there should've been more investigating into him. But he could really just as easily be a planted witness and that's why they don't care to investigate
When I was 18 I started traveling internationally and using atm’s was a way for my mom and I to communicate. Sometimes I was in European farmland and there wasn’t cell reception but the train stations had atm’s. So I would take money out, my mom would check my bank account online and see the location of the atm. Maybe, for Annie, the atm was a way to communicate with someone.
I think the government theory makes the most sense but I don’t think it was because they mistook her for the other lady. They just don’t look enough alike for that. I think it makes more sense that she herself was some time of operative. I mean she went back and forth between two countries. She had friends but went out mostly by herself. Her family and friends rarely knew what she was doing. She could have been an operative, and op went bad and she was killed. Then her handler staged the body so it would make its way back to her family.
I’m guessing a government person r@ped her and they thought she was gonna tell. It would explain why she checked the drink so cautiously if she’d had an experience in the past
This is what I was thinking from the beginning, I kept wondering all kinds of things about her and it seems like a lot is a mystery and leaves this possibility very possible in my opinion. I do think it is highly unlikely they would get her mixed up with the other women, they have ways of identifying them and access to photo ID’s, ways of tracking whereabouts and they do not look enough alike to mistake them.
This was also where my brain went -- again, monitoring drinks, frequent trips, limited relationships. And then there's a guy coming into the picture with a false identity? Plus, if she hit multiple bank machines, she must have thought she had the money to withdraw... so where did it go? And how were call histories vanishing on the Swedish end, not just the Scottish end (or vanishing at all for that matter)? What was the timing of the wiped emails, and who has zero emails to be found in their account to begin with? Who was this mystery fiance... where was this fiance after she died... why did nobody know about him to begin with? That part is weird, too. Whose death records are "classified"? I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but this case...
Bella is such a breath of fresh air. She’s so authentic, and even when she mentions her opinion of something terrible she doesn’t come from a place of over-the-top negativity. There is an art to telling true crime cases while keeping it light-hearted for those who want to educate themselves on true crime without having to endure the emotional up and down which I truly, truly appreciate.
I agree! She is so open-minded to any theory and doesn’t judge anyone she speaks about. Always gives people The benefit of the doubt (within reason). Great story teller also! Love her!
yesss! she's my absolute favorite and in all of my years listening to true crime she's the only one I've never rolled my eyes at bc she's not over dramatic in expressing her opinion
I love her and have followed her for years but the only constructive criticism I’d have for her is the fact that she only seems to cover cases of white victims, rarely any people of color and almost never black people. I’ve followed her for the longest time but compared to the other true crime creators I watch I started to notice this difference that is so loud and obvious to me it’s sad that it isn’t obvious to her
Theory: Annie was involved in MI6 or similar herself. She wanted out - perhaps her 'life-changing' decision? Maybe the 'marriage' was her reason to leave. She spoke 5 or 6 languages, travelled frequently, had lots of contacts but no one who was super close to her. She was well organised and could get places very quickly. It might explain why the files are classified also. Poor Annie though, regardless of what the truth is. She seemed like such a cool person.
This poor woman was clearly murdered and the all of the details surrounding her last few days, the phone records going 'missing,' the bruising not being properly recoreded in the coronor's report and the apparent witness seeing 'her' standing by the ocean, are indicitive of a cover-up for some reason.Great video thanks Bella this one really gets your brain working trying to figure it out. My sincere condolences to Annie's family and friends; this is a horrible thing to happen to anyone's beloved family member, but to have it all complicated and overshadowed by such mysterious details and obvious corruption is horrific beyond belief and must still haunt them daily.
There is an article about this in Czech language, where they think she was interogated and one of the tactics used was waterboarding. The interogation should have take place at Preswick airport. She might get accidentaly killed that way. And the guy who pretended to be Leslie might have been a special agent.
@@callmebigpoppa92 well she went through the airport in record time. obviously it was altered... also they certently got some special (exclusive) exit..
the CIA theory makes the most sense however I also see in one of the comments someone reckons she was an agent herself, which makes even more sense in terms of her lifestyle. i’m so glad you’re back Bella! missed u x
I think that she was getting blank calls similar to her friend before her death. That's why she doesn't want to attend the calls from the telephone and asked her parents not to call the telephone. She might have had a feeling that her mobile was hacked as well and that's why she didn't talk really well with her family and may be she thought it was a stocker so she told her father that she was planing to get married. So the stocker might step back coz she have a boyfriend. She tried going back to home and someone he found out and came there which explains her annoyed feeling and her walking fastly without looking like sprinting. So basically the culprit must be someone who is following her around and has hacking skills.
Water in the lungs should always be checked. Stomach and intestinal fluids also. This is THE protocol. This whole case, phone calls, autopsy, hair EVERYTHING is so suspicious
I like how Bella seems always so genuinely happy and upbeat greeting us. Maybe it’s an Australian thing? I’m, being deeply depressed right now, feel her lively energy and so thankful for sharing this inner light. It makes me feel better
When you mentioned the phone calls being erased, I couldn’t shake the idea of the government being involved. I think there’s way more than we will ever know about.
Either the poor woman had some sort of a schizophrenic breakdown, or there really was some sort of government cover-up (Hence, the disappearing phone records and the empty email inbox). She spoke multiple languages. Maybe some sort of corrupt agency was trying to recruit her, and she didn't want anything to do with them.
I think she was approached by a government agency to become an agent/spy. She would be the perfect candidate, she spoke numerous languages, she was already frequently traveling between countries, they normally recruit people around college age in schools, and they like to recruit women because they are less assuming to be spies. Or she thought she was being recruited by a government agency, but she actually got recruited by the bad guys pretending to be a government agency, like in the show Alias. I feel like that’s the only thing that makes sense for who would have the power to delete phone call Records from the phone company. Also, the guy that said he saw someone standing on the promenade the night before is super sketchy. I think the statistic is some thing like 80% of witnesses that come forward to police who tell them about a death end up being the ones responsible. What are the chances that he saw her the night before and happened to pass by again when police found her?
That was my first thought- this filofax always being with her, a habit of always going places alone, known for being very friendly and easy to get on with everyone, money being no problem, speaking multiple languages, loving sightseeing and walking alone- it all paints a picture of somebody who can move around easily without suspicion.
This reminds me of Jelani Day in Illinois. His death was ruled a drowning/suicide, but it doesn’t make sense. He was also a strong swimmer and his vehicle was found in a place it should not have been, with his some of his clothes folded in the back seat. I’ll never believe he killed himself and this story sounds like she didn’t kill herself either. I truly believe Annie B was killed by someone.
I think sadly JD just had demons he was fighting. Isn’t grad school a very stressful time in someone’s life? He didn’t really have enough time to make enemies in Normal because he had barely started school.
JD’s body was so messed up when it was found. The coroner said there were missing organs. There were cut out pieces of body parts. They claimed it was animals in the water there. I live not far from there, and we don’t have any animals that eat bodies like that in our rivers. Also seeing all the missing and dead single young males in the Chicago and other parts of the US lately made me think of JD’s case. I wondered if it was organ harvesting.
@@annierondon2139 If I remember correctly because of the autopsy there were no organs one of parents said that. And that made a big deal about it but that wasnt true
Everything in the case is so suspicious. First the guy who posed as the rugby player, maybe he was an agent and needed to make contact with her or to follow her ect. Second her asking her brother about hacking a computer and saying to her parents "they are listening ". Third her missing items and phone records. Then the police saying there was no suspicious circumstances sounding her death without the autopsy being done. And refusing to look into other possible theories before saying it was a suicide. Then the her files are classified and redacted. This is definitely a cover up .
yes I agree and for me her paying her rent, making hairdressers appointment and getting a swim pass etc also feels like she knew she was in danger and this was her way of saying “if something happens to me it wasnt suicide (thats why I planned these thing ahead)” but maybe I just think too much into it haha
Her hair being cut off seems almost like an act of spite considering how much pride she took in her hair. It’s possible her killer knew her well enough to know this and cut it off as some kind of “fuck you”. Maybe someone she turned down romantically? Idk that just seems like too big of a thing for it to not play into what happened.
@@Lucy-mf5gk yeah but in the video she said that the amount they cut off wasn’t the amount that was gone. It’s possible something got lost in translation though since a lot of the articles are probably in Swedish.
The government secrecy regarding this case removes the likelihood of psychotic break or suicide probability. Annie spoke with a shopkeeper in Prestwick but he was reportedly silenced after this by 2 men. If Guje reads this, I live in Prestwick and I'd happily give you somewhere to stay if you ever need to return.
This case seems incredibly suspicious, from the possible stalker, to the missing phone call records, to the police's shoddy investigation work, to the empty email account... It's unfortunate this case took place in the early 2000s, as I would hope that the technology records could be retrieved somehow nowadays. Overall, my heart goes out to her family & friends. I hope one day they can find some kind of justice.
Posing as a rugby player is very unusual for someone to do. Of course it happens, and if it was a deranged killer its more likely - but I do feel that person was trying to get information from her. The CIA story makes sense, could also be another "secret organisation". The missing hair is an indicator the killers knew her relationship to her hair and cut it off to get information, light torture that does not produce marks of torture
Hmm does no one think she could have had a psychotic break? It could explain the paranoia of not letting her family call her home phone and of her asking her brother about computer hacking and all that. Might also explain why she wasn't feeling the cold water at the time, as well as wiping all her emails, and maybe even the surprise announcement that she was suddenly getting married.
Solid theory but it doesn't explain how her phone records got wiped at both ends. A psychotic break doesn't permit you to be able to hack into both the Scottish and Swedish telecommunication systems and clear out information.
When my ex was manic he’d stay up all night calling friends and family, and if they did happen to answer, he’d talk to them all night! So that’s the first thing I thought of when she mentioned the random calls at all hours of the night.
How the hell would psych break explain the governments not releasing her records and her phone calls being completely deleted from even the company itself that makes no sense
These types of cases are always the most eerie so many questions and not a clear answer I feel terrible for her family probably will never know the truth
thank you for giving more attention to these type of cases Bella! Often we don’t see these cases represented nearly as much as famous serial killers etc. hopefully one day we will figure out her story and her family can get the justice they deserve.
Bella if you're looking for cases, an open case is missing teenager from Arizona in the USA, Alicia Navarro. I'm worried her story is fading into obscurity now that she has turned 18 and would love to see you cover it.
I just looked her up and I’m so glad she was located a week ago but something about this case is so weird now that she’s come forward and asked to be dropped from the missing persons list and just wants to be left alone. I’m just glad to hear this isn’t the typical case where we never know what happened to them.
@@madisonhoule9921The man she was living with has been arrested for CP the police found on his phone while searching the apartment. Alicia and her mom Jessica have been reunited, but with Jessica flying to Montana to see Alicia. It's up to her to come home, no one can make her.
when you mentioned that some random dude walked up and said “i saw someone out there, sure hope they didn’t harm themselves”, i knew it was something weird. i think they rely on the fact that “cia cover-up” sounds so outlandish. but when you explained at that foreign relations stuff, yeah this case is weird as hell. also, the cia are incompetent as shit. also, great to see you back! your energy was on another level today, made me happy to see. wish you the best in London!
This is probably insignificant but it’s odd that this really “health conscious” individual is seen smoking in those CCTV clips. Also, very odd that the guy stalking her conveniently also looks like the rugby player she likes to the point that she believes it’s the rugby player. How was this guy not investigated I think it would be a good lead for the investigation
There’s always an extra layer of sadness when someone killed is someone who actually take precautions and is safe. Just shows even if your vigilant your still not safe.
Missed you Bella! I had no inclination until you presented the CIA theory. Makes the most sense, especially considering the phone records. So glad you’re back and I hope you’re enjoying London!
A lot of the CIA theory makes sense but I'm not fully convinced on the mistaken identity aspect. I'm more inclined to wonder whether she accidentally found something out that she shouldn't, maybe related to the man who seemed to be stalking her. Or maybe she had some link to the CIA by working for them. She spoke a lot of languages and travelled a great deal, she had a hell of an organisational streak.. She'd have been a great asset for an agency like that.
I genuinely think this might have been a psychotic episode that slowly got worse. The cut off hair, the vanished Filofax and fleece, the emptied inbox, not being aware she had cash on her, mentioning a marriage suddenly, telling people others are listening, asking about how hacking works, the behavior she never had before and the mood switches. All of those would make this make sense. I think the camera footage times not lining up as well as vanished phone records could very well just be technical errors of the time. The guy that pretended to be that rugby player might've existed but it's not confirmed if the sighting she had of him after that was actually him. She could've literally just had this weird interaction w the dude faking his personality and the paranoid response to this could've triggered psychotic symptoms. I mean, wanting to suddenly leave the country and then ending up dead once you figure out you can't leave is quite...unusual. The whole thing about drowning being a difficult way to end ones own life is true but the psychotic mind can definitely push past a lot of survival instincts and deep water wouldn't be needed in a brain suddenly so determined to leave life. Only thing that seems totally off for this theory is that bit of info about fresh water algea. I also don't think the man coming up to police is too weird, depending on how old he was I'd say it's quite common for men of a certain age to talk a lot of stuff that might not even be true just to seem relevant in situations that involve emergency services. So yeah, I'd say either a psychotic break that ended erratic and bad or it truly is one of the more stalker-ish stories...in which case I'd also say the key person isn't the fake rugby guy and rather something more sinister and involving more than one person. Especially since both countries are keeping everything locked. Could've been criminal activity related to law enforcement and that could explain why everything was wiped and immediately closed and won't be touched by both countries. It's not rare for police and crime rings to have weird connections...is all I'm saying. Doesn't have to be cia haha
I agree. Unfortunately in a lot of people who die by suicide they have made plans beforehand, or there is evidence that it was not a decision that was planned. Mental health is unpredictable, and sometimes people snap and it ends horribly. I had a friend who died by suicide and had booked and paid for festival tickets days prior, among lots of other things that point to her planning to be alive. So sad.
I agree. Psychosis is so much more common than people think. When true crime channels skip right over mental illness and go straight to these huge conspiracies, i shake my head.
@@k.jlmfharrington3437 if she was in psychosis other people could not even enter her mind... there could be thoughts of paranoia towards her family, thoughts they'd be better without her, etc...
Random theory... Does anyone know if that flight was fully booked? And/ or maybe only business and first class seats were available and she didn't have enough cash at the time (cheques take like 7 days to process into an account). Maybe she was hoping to get on the next flight possible in the morning. Decided to try to save the cash she has and sleep outside on the beach, and get to the airport first thing. The tide came in and hit her during the night? That would maybe explain some missing items; if she put her fleece on her as a blanket, possibly having her book next to her as comfort, those lighter items got washed out to sea?
I remember (iirc) reading before that there was quite a bit of room on the flight but I read about so many of these cases so I can't be 100% certain. I'll try to find that info again
@sadeze m Hearing how it was reported, I don't feel the news sources can be trusted with the inaccurate/false information in their reports. If there's mention on airport staff, friends, family maybe they would had checked flights?
This is a good theory but it doesn't explain the wiped phone and email history as well as the other electronic time errors. Someone had to have a lot of power to manipulate those records. Also everything about the police investigation and autopsy were very suspicious. Why would a simple suicide (as reported) or accidental drowning (as in ur theory) become classified?
This is such a sad story. Poor Annie. I do not believe she killed herself. I believe she was murdered by someone and it’s sad that no one will ever answer for this. Rest is peace Annie. ♥️🙏🏾 God bless her family. It must be so hard having no closure or understanding of what really happened.
I haven’t seen anyone mention that her stalker may have been a hacker or working with the government! I know someone close to me that had been stalked by a hacker, he would mess around with her call logs, with her Wi-Fi and medical records, he also went as far as to mess around with her bank account. I genuinely think she was stalked by someone who knew what they were doing when it came to technology, and even had some ties or was working for the government himself ?
I thought something similar. Could have been a hacker, a gov rep, a cop, someone (like a cop lol) who knew or could coerce a hacker to do what he wanted... It's super common for men with "powerful" jobs to do things like that to women who can't get help bc the man is too powerful or well liked
So happy to have you back Bella! Your videos are some of the only true crime content I can watch these days. you tell their stories in such a respectful way and do a great job being informative rather than just being here to cash in on someone’s tragic story. Respect ❤️
It's very hard for a person to drown themselves if they know how to swim, can't weigh themselves down and are close to somewhere they can get to shore.
Hi Bella! So good to see you!! Hope you are keeping well , I'm from IRAQ/BAGHDAD.The truth is, I was very afraid of you traveling to London and being cut off from your audience for so long. I wish you success and happiness.
I admire your work ethic through emigrating and everything. And you being like transparant about you scheduele. Idk you have like the same subcribers as people in yt that manage full companies with employes etc, so seeing you do this on your own, while emigrating and maintaining your channel is the kind of girl bossing I admire and look up to! Kudos gurly!
My theory is maybe the person who killed her was a diplomat of another country or someone important. That would explain why her phone records and everyone that she spoke to records were wiped because that sounds like something only the phone company or the government could accomplish. The erasure of the phone records also seems like she probably spoke to her killer in the days leading to her death and that's why they were wiped. Someone high power killing her would also explain why the police didn't want to look into it. This is all a theory.
The hair being cut & phone records wiped is what really gets me. Also the short trip to the airport. Is it possible she had a psychotic break & did all this herself? I’m just not sure.
The hair might have been cut by police, I believe was stated. The phone records she couldn't have wiped herself. That information is kept at the phone companies.
This story reminds me of two other cases, Jennifer Fairgate and journalist Jacky Sutton. Very strange deaths that may very well been government operations.
Could the reason why there were no phone records was because she was using another phone to contact people? If she was paranoid that ppl were listening in, it would make sense to get a different phone
Hi Bella I really love true crime videos just like all of your other viewers, and I love it that you also focus on the victims and not just on the perpetrators. Thank you so much for creating these videos. I see from the comments that many more women are becoming more and more concerned with our safety which is understandable. I used to be afraid of walking home alone at night before I started to take self-defense classes, and I'd like to share some tips that I've leaned from my classes so far with all of your female viewers, which I hope can be of some help. I've recently been taking Krav Maga for women classes for self-defense, and so far I've learned that the best best self-defense targets on a mans body for women (and girls) to attack, and the best ways of striking them are as follows: - the eyes (finger poke them) - the nose (palm heel strike upwards) - the throat (chopping like actions) - the testicles (knee / kick / punch / slap / grab-twist-pull and hold on to them tightly until he collapses and passes out within a matter of seconds) - the knees (sideways kick to dislocate) We always remember "eyes, nose, throat, testicles, knees" or "eyes, nose, throat, balls, knees" I've also been taught that even a trained, determined teenage girl could easily take down a man if she goes for these targets, especially if she goes fast and hard for the eyes or the testicles (or "high balls" and "low balls" as I've also heard them called!) One very powerful technique I also learned is that if a man has removed his trousers and he is about to rape you, then his testicles will now be extremely vulnerable to the "grab, twist, pull and hold" counterattack. You should quickly snatch his balls, give them a short sharp twist so that they become locked in your grasp and cannmot easily escape, and then keep squeezing and pulling them as hard as you can until he passes out in under 8 seconds - and I've been taught that he will , no matter how big and strong he is. You can even use both hands, and it's still just as effective even if you only manage to get hold of one testicle. Apparently, when a man has his testicles forcefully squeezed it causes him to curl over, collapse, convulse and quickly lose all of his strength before he collapses and passes out or goes into shock in under 8 seconds. Most importantly this holds true no matter how big and strong he is - a wonderful natural advantage we females have in combat over men. Surely this is something we should all be made aware of and we should all be taught how to do it! I really wish that more women and girls were made aware of effective ways to fight back - in particular I wish they were made more aware of this "ball grab and hold" technique. From what I've read and been taught it has literally saved many women throughout the world. The women of Somalia even have a name for this move and they call it "Qworegoys". Mothers teach their daughters to reach under their attackers tunic and grab, twist, and pull his testicles until he passes out, and to also tuck their head in until the point he loses consciousness in case he initially starts to fight back. We, as women, really can fight back effectively, stay safe, and lessen our fears if we know how and where to strike on an attackers body and most importantly, learn how to "fight dirty" ❤
Thank you for this information! It is so interesting and useful to know. I hope if I’m ever in an awful situation like this I remember to use this. I’ll also be teaching all my loved ones this trick too, especially my young daughter! ❤
I'd like to add .. If you're hiding from someone, and you find yourself hiding in a bathroom, the porcelain lid on the toilet water tank makes a heavy weapon.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge that you’ve learned from krave maga class! I read it to my husband and by listening to your description he was feeling the pain and totally agree that the opponent will pad out in 8 sec with squeezing balls method! I screen shotted this so I will share with my girlfriends. Your comments made me wants to return krave maga that I took long ago!! Be safe!
@@erb1998 the foot on the beach really throws me off.. the theory that she cut her own foot off is wild but interesting to think about. I think her husband has all the answers.
This case is a perfect example of police committing to a convenient theory early on and rejecting all alternatives (even those supported with evidence) Confirmation bias / tunnel vision got in the way. Annie deserves justice and her family deserves answers! 🖤
IM SO HAPPY WE’RE BACK TO REGULAR PROGRAMMING. Yes I realize you were moving but your channel has been a constant for me since college and I can’t wait to jump back in weekly!!
This case has always weighed heavily on my mind. So much of it doesn't make sense. I can't even begin to imagine how painful this must all be for her family
@@allisonisis I looked it up and it says the phone company refused to discuss why they didn’t register any of her calls before her disappearance.. that’s so weird
There was a really good documentary on this case and they covered the body and bag etc washing up together. They ran a couple of reconstructions on the same beach, putting a fake, weighted body, backpack etc into the ocean at the same time and location she may have entered into the water. They also expected that not everything would wash up in the same locations, seems impossible, but in their tests the exact same thing happened.
I'm actually thinking that maybe her stalker was that guy in the bar and maybe he worked for the phone company that's why she told her call with her mom she said they're listening and then all call records are wiped out that even the phone company couldn't get to the bottom of it. Very strange, I hope she's resting in peace 🙏🏻 Thank you Bella, very happy you're back.
So there are 3 cases from my hometown all are unsolved.... one is Levi frady a young boy which I was friends with went missing riding his bike home from a friends house, next is Patrice Endres which was my friends mother, and finally one is tamla horsford which is just a wild case. Thanks and if you have any questions about any of the 3 cases pls feel free to reach out to me! Thanks! Sooo glad your back!!!!!
Yeah!!!!!!! Bella !!! I miss you so much!!! I'm really happy that you are here today!! It is a really rainy and windy day here in Québec City, so you are like a hot tea on this cold day!!! I had plan to go in 10 min, but , I see you appears and I decide to go 1 hour later, the time to listen your whole video!!! Welcome back Bella!!!
So so sad. I’m in the minority, but it truly seems like a psychotic break. I also feel that the rugby player may have been a story that her brain came up with. My brain does insane things when my mental illness is severe and all of these things she did just seem like manic episodes. So many parents have NO idea what their children are dealing with mentally. Especially around the time that Annie passed. So sad there are so many questions left, but this often happens when the mentally ill are suffering in silence with no help. 😔💔
If the CIA was behind this they DID A TERRIBLE JOB. Like thats amateur. It feels like this stalker dude is behind it and he might have been a hacker of some sort or he worked as a government official and knew how to get rid of information.
this is me playing the devils advocate here but i’m from glasgow and i’ve travelled by train from glasgow central and glasgow queen street to edinburgh waverley at least 50 times and it is possible to be there in around 40-45 minutes depending on the train you take, she would most likely have travelled from edinburgh waverley to glasgow queen street which would leave her (if she timed everything perfectly i.e. getting on the train right before it leaves, the train being on time etc) around 15 minutes to walk from glasgow queen street to glasgow central which is entirely doable, it’s around a 7 minute walk so she could definitely get there on time but what confuses me is that there are cash points near queen street and on the walk from queen street to central so why wouldn’t she have just went there? especially since direct trains from glasgow central to edinburgh and vice versa are much less common than direct trains from glasgow queen street 16:50
WHY is there some policedepartment, in the world, that not do their job? there is a human that have died, do your job, do it right, let the family get answer, look at it like a crime, its YOUR job to do it right
I definitely don't believe she k*lled herself. It's either a gov cover up, or she had a stalker who was also a gov employee. He was messing with her money, reading her emails, etc, perhaps even blackmailing her somehow. I believe that's what her strange behavior was all about. That poor woman was m*rdered..
I'm only 38mins in to it & stopping before the theories to give my theory before I continue. I'm thinking she could have been developing schizophrenia & had a psychotic episode, the odd moods, paranoia, wiping of emails etc...she's the correct age for that to happen, tell-tale signs of paranoia, mood changes and if she did enter the water at Prestwick beach, maybe to de-stress or some other reason like hearing or seeing things then she could have easily become hypothermic & start stripping off her clothes which is very common when extremely cold, then become unconscious & drown. The sea is absolutely freezing in summer...last time I was on the west coast of Scotland in June & we could barely stand in the sea up to our knees, felt like we were being stabbed with ice-cold knives, but in December you could easily go into hypothermia or shock. I'm unconvinced about the algae in the bone marrow, it could have come from drinking anything anywhere Sweden or Scotland, she drank aloe so maybe she also tried other natural drinks, or drank from a natural water source.The phone logs - I don't know how that works, could it have been a glitch on her phone or maybe she used some kind of app to block her caller ID if she was indeed feeling paranoid & stalked, the only thing I find suspicious is the official findings have not been released to the parents. Ok, going to continue to hear about other theories.
Solid theory but it doesn't explain how her phone records got wiped at both ends. A psychotic break doesn't permit you to be able to hack into both the Scottish and Swedish telecommunication systems and clear out information.
I think that’s what I lean towards as well. Even the stalker situation might have been a figment of her schizophrenic imagination. She could have also discarded her journal because of paranoia… still a mystery what happened to the calls though… I sincerely hope her loved ones will find out one day what really happened to her 💔
How sure are we she was not in the CIA? Tbh this makes more sense especially with her background and lifestyle. She could have been undercover or just working with the CIA and couldn’t tell anyone about it. 🤔
First of all, I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE BACK BELLA! And of course, congrats on the move! Secondly, (But just as important!) R.I.P. Annie. Thirdly...This is the 2nd case I've watched in the last couple of weeks, where the unfortunate Victim & I...have the same Birthday! Mine's just 1979. I'm starting to get a bit worried now. Anyway love you Bella! Please enjoy London & please never go that long without posting again (if possible lol) cuz I was starting to worry we'd lost ya. So glad I was worried for nothing 🥰
I live in Edinburgh. That would be a really strange place to choose to go and kill yourself. I mean, you could drown yourself easy enough on this side of the island if that's what you wanted to do. Why bother with taking a train across to Glasgow and Prestwick? And at 4pm, in December, it would definitely be dark here. So, a really bleak setting too. And then, if you're going to walk out into the surf and sea, why leave your backpack on? There didn't seem to be anything in there that she would 'want to take with her' if she was indeed committing suicide. It would seem natural to just take it off and leave it on the beach. The alcohol in her system could be explained by her getting a drink on the train if she indeed did take the train. But I just think the whole story doesn't add up. She had plans in the immediate future. She made a cash withdrawal. Why withdraw money if you're going to kill yourself? And then you combine that with the fact that she had this weird stalker and paranoia about people listening/monitoring her... Weird. And YES, the water would be fekking cold. BTW, can confirm, we have good water in Scotland. If you're traveling in Edinburgh, just bring a bottle and fill it up from the tap. Lovely tap water.
i'm from Edinburgh & have spent a lot of time in Glasgow too, and i've never heard of this! such a sad case, i do not think Annie took her own life. i really hope some justice is served for her. very suspicious all round. may she rest in peace! ♡
sooo happy you’ve posted 💓🎀 been thinking about you lots. i’m so glad to see you’re glowing and seem to have settled in to your new place. best of luck in all of your new endeavours 💘
The process after death actually raises your blood alcohol level. So you could die not having had anything to drink and still have a blood alcohol count.
Yes this is true, the process of early decomposition after death releases small amounts of ethanol alcohol into the body, so the 0.2 blood alcohol level despite Annie not having drank any alcohol makes sense.
Hey Bella really enjoyed seeing your moving vlogs, was nice to catch up. Totally down for any wedding prep or house decorating videos, exploring thrift shops or restaurants, and absolutely the mystery Mondays. So happy to see you’ve probably settled in, looking forward to more :)
This is what I'm wondering . . . You said she tool her Filofax everywhere and all of th3 sudden this guy ends up where she's swimming and she can't remember telling him about it. Maybe he swiped it from the bar she met him at? That would give him access to her entire life essentially.
Can you do the case on Steven Avery?? The Netflix doc “making a murderer” gives the idea that he was wrongly convicted but there is a new series by the Daily Wire coming out this summer that is going to be giving evidence and new interviews that he is in fact guilty
So happy to see your beautiful face , Bella. Great work on this case. I feel so sad for Annie’s family & friends. I can’t imagine having no answers. I agree , this does not add up. She seemed like an amazing young woman. May she Rest in Peace ♥️🕊️
The theory that she is a spy makes no sense. These people are professionals, they would know how to stage a death. In addition, they wouldn't delete all of her personal emails.
Wow! I’m from Edinburgh, and although I was young at the time, I’m shocked I have never heard of this case! I have been a subscriber of yours for years now and it is crazy (and scary) to hear you speak about so many familiar, local places to me! I am so sad for Annie and her loved ones. I hope they get more answers one day. Thank you for sharing her story Bella 🥺
Like wise, I'm from Ayrshire and don't remember ever hearing about this , especially with her body washing up on the shore. They clearly kept this so hushed. X
Corruption with law enforcement happens in every country. I went through something similar with a family member's death so my heart breaks for her family and friends as they will probably never have the truth about what happened to Annie.
If I was experiencing this I'd want a DNA test conducted by someone I personally hired.... If any government could have been involved? Her saying she was gonna make a decision that could change her life? It wouldn't be the first time someone's death was faked so they could go completely undetectable... I know it's unlikely... Or maybe this boyfriend was the operative/agent... No random person wiped that many phone history down to the carrier level..
I read Annies mothers blog, written in swedish, and found something significant that I want to correct. The blog says that her hair was cut to the length of 10- 15cm, which means about 60- 70cm was missing, not the other way around. Almost her entire hair was cut off.
That's a huge difference, I understand why her family was upset.
Oh wow??? That’s a lot
i mean then the cia theory kind seems right
That would definitely make more sense then with the CIA theory.
Since long hair gets so easily tangled up when swimming, I feel like it would be a complete mat if she had been tossled around in the water and therefore seeming much shorter to the funeral people. Maybe they thought it would make her more presentable if they cut it off?
the guy who told the police that story should have also been investigated. it was quite convinient that he was there at both times
Yes exactly! Sounds like a plant
that’s what i’m saying!! it seems suspicious to me
Ya that is pretty sketchy and it's really common for killers to return to the scene of the crime so there should've been more investigating into him. But he could really just as easily be a planted witness and that's why they don't care to investigate
Yes!
Yes I was thinking the same exact thing!!
When I was 18 I started traveling internationally and using atm’s was a way for my mom and I to communicate. Sometimes I was in European farmland and there wasn’t cell reception but the train stations had atm’s. So I would take money out, my mom would check my bank account online and see the location of the atm. Maybe, for Annie, the atm was a way to communicate with someone.
that makes so much sense. and is made smart
this is actually so smart
This is incredibly ingenious
Bro this is so smart, it makes sense
the amount of lives youre probably saving in the future with just this comment is insane, idk why i never thought of this. thank you .
I think the government theory makes the most sense but I don’t think it was because they mistook her for the other lady. They just don’t look enough alike for that. I think it makes more sense that she herself was some time of operative. I mean she went back and forth between two countries. She had friends but went out mostly by herself. Her family and friends rarely knew what she was doing. She could have been an operative, and op went bad and she was killed. Then her handler staged the body so it would make its way back to her family.
I’m guessing a government person r@ped her and they thought she was gonna tell. It would explain why she checked the drink so cautiously if she’d had an experience in the past
This theory makes the most sense to me. I was thinking this front the start of the video
Plus her being so cautious/aware of her surroundings like not drinking much etc it all adds up. This makes the most sense
This is what I was thinking from the beginning, I kept wondering all kinds of things about her and it seems like a lot is a mystery and leaves this possibility very possible in my opinion. I do think it is highly unlikely they would get her mixed up with the other women, they have ways of identifying them and access to photo ID’s, ways of tracking whereabouts and they do not look enough alike to mistake them.
This was also where my brain went -- again, monitoring drinks, frequent trips, limited relationships. And then there's a guy coming into the picture with a false identity? Plus, if she hit multiple bank machines, she must have thought she had the money to withdraw... so where did it go? And how were call histories vanishing on the Swedish end, not just the Scottish end (or vanishing at all for that matter)? What was the timing of the wiped emails, and who has zero emails to be found in their account to begin with? Who was this mystery fiance... where was this fiance after she died... why did nobody know about him to begin with? That part is weird, too.
Whose death records are "classified"?
I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but this case...
Bella is such a breath of fresh air. She’s so authentic, and even when she mentions her opinion of something terrible she doesn’t come from a place of over-the-top negativity. There is an art to telling true crime cases while keeping it light-hearted for those who want to educate themselves on true crime without having to endure the emotional up and down which I truly, truly appreciate.
I agree! She is so open-minded to any theory and doesn’t judge anyone she speaks about. Always gives people
The benefit of the doubt (within reason). Great story teller also! Love her!
yesss! she's my absolute favorite and in all of my years listening to true crime she's the only one I've never rolled my eyes at bc she's not over dramatic in expressing her opinion
I love how she tells the stories making the case more suspenseful but also comprehensible! Her theories are my fave and makes me wonder!😍🤔
I love her and have followed her for years but the only constructive criticism I’d have for her is the fact that she only seems to cover cases of white victims, rarely any people of color and almost never black people. I’ve followed her for the longest time but compared to the other true crime creators I watch I started to notice this difference that is so loud and obvious to me it’s sad that it isn’t obvious to her
@@laurajimenez7878 why are you thinking about that
She seemed like such an intelligent woman and it is just scary to know this can happen to even the most aware individuals.
It can absolutely happen to any one of us and that's the scariest thing.
Many of us are not even safe in our own homes!
@@maryanne7161exactly we aren't safe anywhere it's scary
Theory: Annie was involved in MI6 or similar herself. She wanted out - perhaps her 'life-changing' decision? Maybe the 'marriage' was her reason to leave.
She spoke 5 or 6 languages, travelled frequently, had lots of contacts but no one who was super close to her. She was well organised and could get places very quickly. It might explain why the files are classified also.
Poor Annie though, regardless of what the truth is. She seemed like such a cool person.
This poor woman was clearly murdered and the all of the details surrounding her last few days, the phone records going 'missing,' the bruising not being properly recoreded in the coronor's report and the apparent witness seeing 'her' standing by the ocean, are indicitive of a cover-up for some reason.Great video thanks Bella this one really gets your brain working trying to figure it out. My sincere condolences to Annie's family and friends; this is a horrible thing to happen to anyone's beloved family member, but to have it all complicated and overshadowed by such mysterious details and obvious corruption is horrific beyond belief and must still haunt them daily.
All indications are that she was an operative murdered by her handler
There is an article about this in Czech language, where they think she was interogated and one of the tactics used was waterboarding. The interogation should have take place at Preswick airport. She might get accidentaly killed that way. And the guy who pretended to be Leslie might have been a special agent.
But wasn’t she at the airport for only 4 minutes???
@Suckafree92 she was on camera for 4 minutes, but the person seen leaving wasn't confirmed to be her.......
@@callmebigpoppa92 well she went through the airport in record time. obviously it was altered... also they certently got some special (exclusive) exit..
What about the algae
@@lexie169 Agreed. This sounds absolutely correct to me.
the CIA theory makes the most sense however I also see in one of the comments someone reckons she was an agent herself, which makes even more sense in terms of her lifestyle. i’m so glad you’re back Bella! missed u x
I just think the CIA would have made sure her body was not found though
That does make sense. But I don‘t think she would ask her brother about computer stuff then? I don’t know
All indications are that she was an operative killed by her handler.
I think that she was getting blank calls similar to her friend before her death. That's why she doesn't want to attend the calls from the telephone and asked her parents not to call the telephone. She might have had a feeling that her mobile was hacked as well and that's why she didn't talk really well with her family and may be she thought it was a stocker so she told her father that she was planing to get married. So the stocker might step back coz she have a boyfriend. She tried going back to home and someone he found out and came there which explains her annoyed feeling and her walking fastly without looking like sprinting. So basically the culprit must be someone who is following her around and has hacking skills.
The CIA is much more incompetent than you’re giving them credit for lol
Bella uploading means my mental health is about to get so dang stable
Yep
I can Destress
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literally the most stable
@@terridemaio2926 I’m destress deez breastsss
Water in the lungs should always be checked. Stomach and intestinal fluids also. This is THE protocol.
This whole case, phone calls, autopsy, hair EVERYTHING is so suspicious
yup.
I like how Bella seems always so genuinely happy and upbeat greeting us. Maybe it’s an Australian thing? I’m, being deeply depressed right now, feel her lively energy and so thankful for sharing this inner light. It makes me feel better
When you mentioned the phone calls being erased, I couldn’t shake the idea of the government being involved. I think there’s way more than we will ever know about.
Either the poor woman had some sort of a schizophrenic breakdown, or there really was some sort of government cover-up (Hence, the disappearing phone records and the empty email inbox). She spoke multiple languages. Maybe some sort of corrupt agency was trying to recruit her, and she didn't want anything to do with them.
I think she was approached by a government agency to become an agent/spy. She would be the perfect candidate, she spoke numerous languages, she was already frequently traveling between countries, they normally recruit people around college age in schools, and they like to recruit women because they are less assuming to be spies. Or she thought she was being recruited by a government agency, but she actually got recruited by the bad guys pretending to be a government agency, like in the show Alias. I feel like that’s the only thing that makes sense for who would have the power to delete phone call Records from the phone company.
Also, the guy that said he saw someone standing on the promenade the night before is super sketchy. I think the statistic is some thing like 80% of witnesses that come forward to police who tell them about a death end up being the ones responsible. What are the chances that he saw her the night before and happened to pass by again when police found her?
The most ridiculous theory
@@zoesenpaiuwu2681🤣🤣🤣
I completely agree. All indications are that she was an operative who was killed by her handler.
That was my first thought- this filofax always being with her, a habit of always going places alone, known for being very friendly and easy to get on with everyone, money being no problem, speaking multiple languages, loving sightseeing and walking alone- it all paints a picture of somebody who can move around easily without suspicion.
@@zoesenpaiuwu2681 actually, not at all. It’s a perfectly reasonable theory.
This reminds me of Jelani Day in Illinois. His death was ruled a drowning/suicide, but it doesn’t make sense. He was also a strong swimmer and his vehicle was found in a place it should not have been, with his some of his clothes folded in the back seat. I’ll never believe he killed himself and this story sounds like she didn’t kill herself either. I truly believe Annie B was killed by someone.
i was thinking this as well
I think sadly JD just had demons he was fighting. Isn’t grad school a very stressful time in someone’s life? He didn’t really have enough time to make enemies in Normal because he had barely started school.
Suicide's are solved cases whereas murders can go unsolved forever, lazy cops and not wanting to hurt that statics it happens all the time.
JD’s body was so messed up when it was found. The coroner said there were missing organs. There were cut out pieces of body parts. They claimed it was animals in the water there. I live not far from there, and we don’t have any animals that eat bodies like that in our rivers. Also seeing all the missing and dead single young males in the Chicago and other parts of the US lately made me think of JD’s case. I wondered if it was organ harvesting.
@@annierondon2139 If I remember correctly because of the autopsy there were no organs one of parents said that. And that made a big deal about it but that wasnt true
Bella, these are the types of cases i like to see. The ones that are mysterious and less sinister. Like more investigative than gruesome
I agree! They’re more interesting to me too
Everything in the case is so suspicious. First the guy who posed as the rugby player, maybe he was an agent and needed to make contact with her or to follow her ect. Second her asking her brother about hacking a computer and saying to her parents "they are listening ". Third her missing items and phone records. Then the police saying there was no suspicious circumstances sounding her death without the autopsy being done. And refusing to look into other possible theories before saying it was a suicide. Then the her files are classified and redacted. This is definitely a cover up .
yes I agree
and for me her paying her rent, making hairdressers appointment and getting a swim pass etc also feels like she knew she was in danger and this was her way of saying “if something happens to me it wasnt suicide (thats why I planned these thing ahead)” but maybe I just think too much into it haha
@@csenge644 AGREED!!
Her hair being cut off seems almost like an act of spite considering how much pride she took in her hair. It’s possible her killer knew her well enough to know this and cut it off as some kind of “fuck you”. Maybe someone she turned down romantically? Idk that just seems like too big of a thing for it to not play into what happened.
Wasn't it the morgue people that cut her hair
@@Lucy-mf5gk yeah but in the video she said that the amount they cut off wasn’t the amount that was gone. It’s possible something got lost in translation though since a lot of the articles are probably in Swedish.
The government secrecy regarding this case removes the likelihood of psychotic break or suicide probability. Annie spoke with a shopkeeper in Prestwick but he was reportedly silenced after this by 2 men.
If Guje reads this, I live in Prestwick and I'd happily give you somewhere to stay if you ever need to return.
This case seems incredibly suspicious, from the possible stalker, to the missing phone call records, to the police's shoddy investigation work, to the empty email account... It's unfortunate this case took place in the early 2000s, as I would hope that the technology records could be retrieved somehow nowadays. Overall, my heart goes out to her family & friends. I hope one day they can find some kind of justice.
Posing as a rugby player is very unusual for someone to do. Of course it happens, and if it was a deranged killer its more likely - but I do feel that person was trying to get information from her. The CIA story makes sense, could also be another "secret organisation". The missing hair is an indicator the killers knew her relationship to her hair and cut it off to get information, light torture that does not produce marks of torture
Hmm does no one think she could have had a psychotic break? It could explain the paranoia of not letting her family call her home phone and of her asking her brother about computer hacking and all that. Might also explain why she wasn't feeling the cold water at the time, as well as wiping all her emails, and maybe even the surprise announcement that she was suddenly getting married.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Solid theory but it doesn't explain how her phone records got wiped at both ends. A psychotic break doesn't permit you to be able to hack into both the Scottish and Swedish telecommunication systems and clear out information.
Now this makes a lot of sense to me except the phone records.... that's just weird
When my ex was manic he’d stay up all night calling friends and family, and if they did happen to answer, he’d talk to them all night! So that’s the first thing I thought of when she mentioned the random calls at all hours of the night.
How the hell would psych break explain the governments not releasing her records and her phone calls being completely deleted from even the company itself that makes no sense
These types of cases are always the most eerie so many questions and not a clear answer I feel terrible for her family probably will never know the truth
thank you for giving more attention to these type of cases Bella! Often we don’t see these cases represented nearly as much as famous serial killers etc. hopefully one day we will figure out her story and her family can get the justice they deserve.
Bella if you're looking for cases, an open case is missing teenager from Arizona in the USA, Alicia Navarro. I'm worried her story is fading into obscurity now that she has turned 18 and would love to see you cover it.
I just looked her up and I’m so glad she was located a week ago but something about this case is so weird now that she’s come forward and asked to be dropped from the missing persons list and just wants to be left alone. I’m just glad to hear this isn’t the typical case where we never know what happened to them.
@@madisonhoule9921The man she was living with has been arrested for CP the police found on his phone while searching the apartment. Alicia and her mom Jessica have been reunited, but with Jessica flying to Montana to see Alicia. It's up to her to come home, no one can make her.
when you mentioned that some random dude walked up and said “i saw someone out there, sure hope they didn’t harm themselves”, i knew it was something weird.
i think they rely on the fact that “cia cover-up” sounds so outlandish. but when you explained at that foreign relations stuff, yeah this case is weird as hell. also, the cia are incompetent as shit.
also, great to see you back! your energy was on another level today, made me happy to see. wish you the best in London!
'foreign relations' could just mean Scotland, too.
Which seems more likely imo. If tgere was CIA involved i doubt they'd give that sus ahh answer
This is probably insignificant but it’s odd that this really “health conscious” individual is seen smoking in those CCTV clips. Also, very odd that the guy stalking her conveniently also looks like the rugby player she likes to the point that she believes it’s the rugby player. How was this guy not investigated I think it would be a good lead for the investigation
There’s always an extra layer of sadness when someone killed is someone who actually take precautions and is safe. Just shows even if your vigilant your still not safe.
Missed you Bella! I had no inclination until you presented the CIA theory. Makes the most sense, especially considering the phone records. So glad you’re back and I hope you’re enjoying London!
She had to have been dead before going into that water since that specific type of water was not found in her lungs
A lot of the CIA theory makes sense but I'm not fully convinced on the mistaken identity aspect. I'm more inclined to wonder whether she accidentally found something out that she shouldn't, maybe related to the man who seemed to be stalking her. Or maybe she had some link to the CIA by working for them. She spoke a lot of languages and travelled a great deal, she had a hell of an organisational streak..
She'd have been a great asset for an agency like that.
I genuinely think this might have been a psychotic episode that slowly got worse. The cut off hair, the vanished Filofax and fleece, the emptied inbox, not being aware she had cash on her, mentioning a marriage suddenly, telling people others are listening, asking about how hacking works, the behavior she never had before and the mood switches. All of those would make this make sense. I think the camera footage times not lining up as well as vanished phone records could very well just be technical errors of the time. The guy that pretended to be that rugby player might've existed but it's not confirmed if the sighting she had of him after that was actually him. She could've literally just had this weird interaction w the dude faking his personality and the paranoid response to this could've triggered psychotic symptoms. I mean, wanting to suddenly leave the country and then ending up dead once you figure out you can't leave is quite...unusual. The whole thing about drowning being a difficult way to end ones own life is true but the psychotic mind can definitely push past a lot of survival instincts and deep water wouldn't be needed in a brain suddenly so determined to leave life. Only thing that seems totally off for this theory is that bit of info about fresh water algea. I also don't think the man coming up to police is too weird, depending on how old he was I'd say it's quite common for men of a certain age to talk a lot of stuff that might not even be true just to seem relevant in situations that involve emergency services.
So yeah, I'd say either a psychotic break that ended erratic and bad or it truly is one of the more stalker-ish stories...in which case I'd also say the key person isn't the fake rugby guy and rather something more sinister and involving more than one person. Especially since both countries are keeping everything locked. Could've been criminal activity related to law enforcement and that could explain why everything was wiped and immediately closed and won't be touched by both countries. It's not rare for police and crime rings to have weird connections...is all I'm saying. Doesn't have to be cia haha
Or she could've been working in nationl security/as a spy, and that's why everything needs to be kept under wraps.
I agree. Unfortunately in a lot of people who die by suicide they have made plans beforehand, or there is evidence that it was not a decision that was planned. Mental health is unpredictable, and sometimes people snap and it ends horribly. I had a friend who died by suicide and had booked and paid for festival tickets days prior, among lots of other things that point to her planning to be alive. So sad.
I agree. Psychosis is so much more common than people think. When true crime channels skip right over mental illness and go straight to these huge conspiracies, i shake my head.
Disagree, I doubt she'd leave her family with no answers or closure
@@k.jlmfharrington3437 if she was in psychosis other people could not even enter her mind... there could be thoughts of paranoia towards her family, thoughts they'd be better without her, etc...
Random theory... Does anyone know if that flight was fully booked? And/ or maybe only business and first class seats were available and she didn't have enough cash at the time (cheques take like 7 days to process into an account). Maybe she was hoping to get on the next flight possible in the morning. Decided to try to save the cash she has and sleep outside on the beach, and get to the airport first thing. The tide came in and hit her during the night? That would maybe explain some missing items; if she put her fleece on her as a blanket, possibly having her book next to her as comfort, those lighter items got washed out to sea?
I remember (iirc) reading before that there was quite a bit of room on the flight but I read about so many of these cases so I can't be 100% certain. I'll try to find that info again
@sadeze m Hearing how it was reported, I don't feel the news sources can be trusted with the inaccurate/false information in their reports. If there's mention on airport staff, friends, family maybe they would had checked flights?
This is a good theory but it doesn't explain the wiped phone and email history as well as the other electronic time errors. Someone had to have a lot of power to manipulate those records. Also everything about the police investigation and autopsy were very suspicious. Why would a simple suicide (as reported) or accidental drowning (as in ur theory) become classified?
There is no business/first class on budget airlines like Ryan Air!
You have been missed beautiful!!! I'm so happy to see you back 😊
This is such a sad story. Poor Annie. I do not believe she killed herself. I believe she was murdered by someone and it’s sad that no one will ever answer for this. Rest is peace Annie. ♥️🙏🏾 God bless her family. It must be so hard having no closure or understanding of what really happened.
Maybe she was a spy? Going back and forth from one country to the other and never working but always having money? Unemployment only goes so far.
Can't get unemployment with out working for some amount of time at least that's my understanding of unemployment
I haven’t seen anyone mention that her stalker may have been a hacker or working with the government! I know someone close to me that had been stalked by a hacker, he would mess around with her call logs, with her Wi-Fi and medical records, he also went as far as to mess around with her bank account. I genuinely think she was stalked by someone who knew what they were doing when it came to technology, and even had some ties or was working for the government himself ?
I thought something similar. Could have been a hacker, a gov rep, a cop, someone (like a cop lol) who knew or could coerce a hacker to do what he wanted...
It's super common for men with "powerful" jobs to do things like that to women who can't get help bc the man is too powerful or well liked
So happy to have you back Bella! Your videos are some of the only true crime content I can watch these days. you tell their stories in such a respectful way and do a great job being informative rather than just being here to cash in on someone’s tragic story. Respect ❤️
It's very hard for a person to drown themselves if they know how to swim, can't weigh themselves down and are close to somewhere they can get to shore.
Hi Bella! So good to see you!! Hope you are keeping well , I'm from IRAQ/BAGHDAD.The truth is, I was very afraid of you traveling to London and being cut off from your audience for so long. I wish you success and happiness.
I admire your work ethic through emigrating and everything. And you being like transparant about you scheduele. Idk you have like the same subcribers as people in yt that manage full companies with employes etc, so seeing you do this on your own, while emigrating and maintaining your channel is the kind of girl bossing I admire and look up to! Kudos gurly!
Am I the only one who consistently watches old vids until she uploads? 😂
I missed you Bella!! Glad to have you back!❤️
My theory is maybe the person who killed her was a diplomat of another country or someone important. That would explain why her phone records and everyone that she spoke to records were wiped because that sounds like something only the phone company or the government could accomplish. The erasure of the phone records also seems like she probably spoke to her killer in the days leading to her death and that's why they were wiped. Someone high power killing her would also explain why the police didn't want to look into it. This is all a theory.
The hair being cut & phone records wiped is what really gets me. Also the short trip to the airport. Is it possible she had a psychotic break & did all this herself? I’m just not sure.
The hair might have been cut by police, I believe was stated.
The phone records she couldn't have wiped herself. That information is kept at the phone companies.
This story reminds me of two other cases, Jennifer Fairgate and journalist Jacky Sutton. Very strange deaths that may very well been government operations.
Could the reason why there were no phone records was because she was using another phone to contact people? If she was paranoid that ppl were listening in, it would make sense to get a different phone
What about on the receiving phone? Her mother s.
She just radiates kindness, i love her
Hi Bella
I really love true crime videos just like all of your other viewers, and I love it that you also focus on the victims and not just on the perpetrators. Thank you so much for creating these videos.
I see from the comments that many more women are becoming more and more concerned with our safety which is understandable. I used to be afraid of walking home alone at night before I started to take self-defense classes, and I'd like to share some tips that I've leaned from my classes so far with all of your female viewers, which I hope can be of some help. I've recently been taking Krav Maga for women classes for self-defense, and so far I've learned that the best best self-defense targets on a mans body for women (and girls) to attack, and the best ways of striking them are as follows:
- the eyes (finger poke them)
- the nose (palm heel strike upwards)
- the throat (chopping like actions)
- the testicles (knee / kick / punch / slap / grab-twist-pull and hold on to them tightly until he collapses and passes out within a matter of seconds)
- the knees (sideways kick to dislocate)
We always remember "eyes, nose, throat, testicles, knees" or "eyes, nose, throat, balls, knees"
I've also been taught that even a trained, determined teenage girl could easily take down a man if she goes for these targets, especially if she goes fast and hard for the eyes or the testicles (or "high balls" and "low balls" as I've also heard them called!)
One very powerful technique I also learned is that if a man has removed his trousers and he is about to rape you, then his testicles will now be extremely vulnerable to the "grab, twist, pull and hold" counterattack. You should quickly snatch his balls, give them a short sharp twist so that they become locked in your grasp and cannmot easily escape, and then keep squeezing and pulling them as hard as you can until he passes out in under 8 seconds - and I've been taught that he will , no matter how big and strong he is. You can even use both hands, and it's still just as effective even if you only manage to get hold of one testicle.
Apparently, when a man has his testicles forcefully squeezed it causes him to curl over, collapse, convulse and quickly lose all of his strength before he collapses and passes out or goes into shock in under 8 seconds. Most importantly this holds true no matter how big and strong he is - a wonderful natural advantage we females have in combat over men. Surely this is something we should all be made aware of and we should all be taught how to do it!
I really wish that more women and girls were made aware of effective ways to fight back - in particular I wish they were made more aware of this "ball grab and hold" technique. From what I've read and been taught it has literally saved many women throughout the world. The women of Somalia even have a name for this move and they call it "Qworegoys". Mothers teach their daughters to reach under their attackers tunic and grab, twist, and pull his testicles until he passes out, and to also tuck their head in until the point he loses consciousness in case he initially starts to fight back.
We, as women, really can fight back effectively, stay safe, and lessen our fears if we know how and where to strike on an attackers body and most importantly, learn how to "fight dirty" ❤
I really hope that Bella pins this comment!
Thank you for this information! It is so interesting and useful to know. I hope if I’m ever in an awful situation like this I remember to use this. I’ll also be teaching all my loved ones this trick too, especially my young daughter! ❤
I'd like to add .. If you're hiding from someone, and you find yourself hiding in a bathroom, the porcelain lid on the toilet water tank makes a heavy weapon.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge that you’ve learned from krave maga class! I read it to my husband and by listening to your description he was feeling the pain and totally agree that the opponent will pad out in 8 sec with squeezing balls method! I screen shotted this so I will share with my girlfriends. Your comments made me wants to return krave maga that I took long ago!! Be safe!
Thank you for posting this! I will definitely share it with my teen daughters and their friends!! ❤
Love it when Bella posts a true crime video!! ❤️ Missed you Bella ❤️
What the actual hell with those phone calls? How can they disappear from everyone's phones? I didn't even know such thing was possible
So so happy you are back❤
Looking forward to regular stories
i hope the move & wedding planning has been a smooth, blissful time!
we are SO excited for you & Kerry!!! 🫶🏼
First case back and it's one from my home country and a place I don't live that far away from. Good to have you back, Bella!
Welcome back, Bella! I’d love to see you cover the Melissa Caddick case if you can. ily ❤️
Oh My God yes! still active. What do you think is going on? I’m from AU- something is so off about that case…
@@erb1998 the foot on the beach really throws me off.. the theory that she cut her own foot off is wild but interesting to think about. I think her husband has all the answers.
This case is a perfect example of police committing to a convenient theory early on and rejecting all alternatives (even those supported with evidence) Confirmation bias / tunnel vision got in the way. Annie deserves justice and her family deserves answers! 🖤
never heard of this case. Thank you for covering it so well! Love you Bella ❤
IM SO HAPPY WE’RE BACK TO REGULAR PROGRAMMING. Yes I realize you were moving but your channel has been a constant for me since college and I can’t wait to jump back in weekly!!
This case has always weighed heavily on my mind. So much of it doesn't make sense. I can't even begin to imagine how painful this must all be for her family
Give yourself some grace! Moving is alot especially when you move across the world. Again welcome to London and we have missed your content!
why are none of the comments about the case 😭 I came here to read about what people think and it’s just about Bella 😩
What is an explanation for the absence of the phone records?! I don't understand.
@@allisonisis I looked it up and it says the phone company refused to discuss why they didn’t register any of her calls before her disappearance.. that’s so weird
sounds like a cover up from the police
@@ginagolden7212 that would explain it. A cover up.
@@myamorfin9016 😳
There was a really good documentary on this case and they covered the body and bag etc washing up together. They ran a couple of reconstructions on the same beach, putting a fake, weighted body, backpack etc into the ocean at the same time and location she may have entered into the water. They also expected that not everything would wash up in the same locations, seems impossible, but in their tests the exact same thing happened.
I'm actually thinking that maybe her stalker was that guy in the bar and maybe he worked for the phone company that's why she told her call with her mom she said they're listening and then all call records are wiped out that even the phone company couldn't get to the bottom of it. Very strange, I hope she's resting in peace 🙏🏻 Thank you Bella, very happy you're back.
Yeah or he's a cop or something like that.
this case is insane!! glad you’re back Bella 🥰❤️ ps I love how long your hair is getting 😍😍
So there are 3 cases from my hometown all are unsolved.... one is Levi frady a young boy which I was friends with went missing riding his bike home from a friends house, next is Patrice Endres which was my friends mother, and finally one is tamla horsford which is just a wild case. Thanks and if you have any questions about any of the 3 cases pls feel free to reach out to me! Thanks! Sooo glad your back!!!!!
Yeah!!!!!!! Bella !!! I miss you so much!!!
I'm really happy that you are here today!!
It is a really rainy and windy day here in Québec City, so you are like a hot tea on this cold day!!! I had plan to go in 10 min, but , I see you appears and I decide to go
1 hour later, the time to listen your whole video!!! Welcome back Bella!!!
So so sad. I’m in the minority, but it truly seems like a psychotic break. I also feel that the rugby player may have been a story that her brain came up with. My brain does insane things when my mental illness is severe and all of these things she did just seem like manic episodes. So many parents have NO idea what their children are dealing with mentally. Especially around the time that Annie passed. So sad there are so many questions left, but this often happens when the mentally ill are suffering in silence with no help. 😔💔
Other people also saw him how can he be something "her brain came up with"
Wrong he was a real guy that others heard and spoke to.
@@user-uw1do5yr4n i think she means the pool encounter wasn't real. That was my first thought too.
But that doesnt explain the water in the lungs or the bruising…or the missing files and the appointments she made??
Yay so happy you’re back, glad you’re settled and been hustling for us behind the scenes ❤
Super bizzare case, Bella, I’m so glad you’re back!
If the CIA was behind this they DID A TERRIBLE JOB. Like thats amateur. It feels like this stalker dude is behind it and he might have been a hacker of some sort or he worked as a government official and knew how to get rid of information.
I’m so glad you’re back on UA-cam! I’ve watched all your mystery Monday and solved cases and they’re definitely my favorite of this type!
this is me playing the devils advocate here but i’m from glasgow and i’ve travelled by train from glasgow central and glasgow queen street to edinburgh waverley at least 50 times and it is possible to be there in around 40-45 minutes depending on the train you take, she would most likely have travelled from edinburgh waverley to glasgow queen street which would leave her (if she timed everything perfectly i.e. getting on the train right before it leaves, the train being on time etc) around 15 minutes to walk from glasgow queen street to glasgow central which is entirely doable, it’s around a 7 minute walk so she could definitely get there on time but what confuses me is that there are cash points near queen street and on the walk from queen street to central so why wouldn’t she have just went there? especially since direct trains from glasgow central to edinburgh and vice versa are much less common than direct trains from glasgow queen street 16:50
WHY is there some policedepartment, in the world, that not do their job? there is a human that have died, do your job, do it right, let the family get answer, look at it like a crime, its YOUR job to do it right
I definitely don't believe she k*lled herself. It's either a gov cover up, or she had a stalker who was also a gov employee. He was messing with her money, reading her emails, etc, perhaps even blackmailing her somehow. I believe that's what her strange behavior was all about. That poor woman was m*rdered..
This case was WILD, I really “enjoyed” (it feels weird to say enjoy because somebody was murdered) this case, great research!
I'm only 38mins in to it & stopping before the theories to give my theory before I continue. I'm thinking she could have been developing schizophrenia & had a psychotic episode, the odd moods, paranoia, wiping of emails etc...she's the correct age for that to happen, tell-tale signs of paranoia, mood changes and if she did enter the water at Prestwick beach, maybe to de-stress or some other reason like hearing or seeing things then she could have easily become hypothermic & start stripping off her clothes which is very common when extremely cold, then become unconscious & drown. The sea is absolutely freezing in summer...last time I was on the west coast of Scotland in June & we could barely stand in the sea up to our knees, felt like we were being stabbed with ice-cold knives, but in December you could easily go into hypothermia or shock. I'm unconvinced about the algae in the bone marrow, it could have come from drinking anything anywhere Sweden or Scotland, she drank aloe so maybe she also tried other natural drinks, or drank from a natural water source.The phone logs - I don't know how that works, could it have been a glitch on her phone or maybe she used some kind of app to block her caller ID if she was indeed feeling paranoid & stalked, the only thing I find suspicious is the official findings have not been released to the parents. Ok, going to continue to hear about other theories.
Solid theory but it doesn't explain how her phone records got wiped at both ends. A psychotic break doesn't permit you to be able to hack into both the Scottish and Swedish telecommunication systems and clear out information.
agreed
I wondered this also
I think that’s what I lean towards as well. Even the stalker situation might have been a figment of her schizophrenic imagination. She could have also discarded her journal because of paranoia… still a mystery what happened to the calls though… I sincerely hope her loved ones will find out one day what really happened to her 💔
Agreed! It does seem very probable that she sadly ended her own life, it makes a lot of sense given all of the evidence.
How sure are we she was not in the CIA? Tbh this makes more sense especially with her background and lifestyle. She could have been undercover or just working with the CIA and couldn’t tell anyone about it. 🤔
I'm glad you're back Bella missed you
First of all, I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE BACK BELLA! And of course, congrats on the move! Secondly, (But just as important!) R.I.P. Annie. Thirdly...This is the 2nd case I've watched in the last couple of weeks, where the unfortunate Victim & I...have the same Birthday! Mine's just 1979. I'm starting to get a bit worried now. Anyway love you Bella! Please enjoy London & please never go that long without posting again (if possible lol) cuz I was starting to worry we'd lost ya. So glad I was worried for nothing 🥰
I live in Edinburgh. That would be a really strange place to choose to go and kill yourself. I mean, you could drown yourself easy enough on this side of the island if that's what you wanted to do. Why bother with taking a train across to Glasgow and Prestwick? And at 4pm, in December, it would definitely be dark here. So, a really bleak setting too. And then, if you're going to walk out into the surf and sea, why leave your backpack on? There didn't seem to be anything in there that she would 'want to take with her' if she was indeed committing suicide. It would seem natural to just take it off and leave it on the beach. The alcohol in her system could be explained by her getting a drink on the train if she indeed did take the train. But I just think the whole story doesn't add up. She had plans in the immediate future. She made a cash withdrawal. Why withdraw money if you're going to kill yourself? And then you combine that with the fact that she had this weird stalker and paranoia about people listening/monitoring her... Weird. And YES, the water would be fekking cold.
BTW, can confirm, we have good water in Scotland. If you're traveling in Edinburgh, just bring a bottle and fill it up from the tap. Lovely tap water.
i'm from Edinburgh & have spent a lot of time in Glasgow too, and i've never heard of this! such a sad case, i do not think Annie took her own life. i really hope some justice is served for her. very suspicious all round. may she rest in peace! ♡
sooo happy you’ve posted 💓🎀 been thinking about you lots. i’m so glad to see you’re glowing and seem to have settled in to your new place. best of luck in all of your new endeavours 💘
Please cover the Thabo Bester case! It is a huge case in South Africa right now. One of the most insane cases I have come across.
The process after death actually raises your blood alcohol level. So you could die not having had anything to drink and still have a blood alcohol count.
Yes this is true, the process of early decomposition after death releases small amounts of ethanol alcohol into the body, so the 0.2 blood alcohol level despite Annie not having drank any alcohol makes sense.
Welcome back! So good to see you again!
I was literally snooping around yesterday to see where you've been! Lol Glad to have you (and your earrings) back!
Hi Bella! So good to see you!! Hope you are keeping well 💝 I'm from Western Australia 😊🤗
Bella, you're glowing!! So glad you're back ❤
Hey Bella really enjoyed seeing your moving vlogs, was nice to catch up. Totally down for any wedding prep or house decorating videos, exploring thrift shops or restaurants, and absolutely the mystery Mondays. So happy to see you’ve probably settled in, looking forward to more :)
This is what I'm wondering . . . You said she tool her Filofax everywhere and all of th3 sudden this guy ends up where she's swimming and she can't remember telling him about it. Maybe he swiped it from the bar she met him at? That would give him access to her entire life essentially.
Can you do the case on Steven Avery?? The Netflix doc “making a murderer” gives the idea that he was wrongly convicted but there is a new series by the Daily Wire coming out this summer that is going to be giving evidence and new interviews that he is in fact guilty
So happy to see your beautiful face , Bella. Great work on this case.
I feel so sad for Annie’s family & friends. I can’t imagine having no answers. I agree , this does not add up. She seemed like an amazing young woman. May she Rest in Peace ♥️🕊️
The theory that she is a spy makes no sense. These people are professionals, they would know how to stage a death. In addition, they wouldn't delete all of her personal emails.
Wow! I’m from Edinburgh, and although I was young at the time, I’m shocked I have never heard of this case! I have been a subscriber of yours for years now and it is crazy (and scary) to hear you speak about so many familiar, local places to me! I am so sad for Annie and her loved ones. I hope they get more answers one day. Thank you for sharing her story Bella 🥺
Like wise, I'm from Ayrshire and don't remember ever hearing about this , especially with her body washing up on the shore. They clearly kept this so hushed. X
Totally hushed up. Poor family. And thinking that she liked bonnie wee Scotland so much...
Corruption with law enforcement happens in every country. I went through something similar with a family member's death so my heart breaks for her family and friends as they will probably never have the truth about what happened to Annie.
If I was experiencing this I'd want a DNA test conducted by someone I personally hired.... If any government could have been involved? Her saying she was gonna make a decision that could change her life? It wouldn't be the first time someone's death was faked so they could go completely undetectable... I know it's unlikely... Or maybe this boyfriend was the operative/agent... No random person wiped that many phone history down to the carrier level..
MISSED YOU SO MUCHH! I love how Bella covers cases I have never heard of. And does a fine job might I add. :) This is such a strange case!
Just had a horrible day, then I see Bella posted and now it’s not so bad ❤