International NHL Prodigies | Where are They Now?!
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In this video we go over the prospect stories of Matvei Mitchkov, Aito Iguchi, Leon Draisatl, Tim Stutzle, Yasaku Ando, and Moritz Seider.
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Who is the greatest prospect of all time?
Taro Tsujimoto. No doubt.
Wayne Glensky if not him no one else
Of all time??? Anyone who argues against Gretzky is just plain wrong.
@@guyami8892 Glensky is the best hockey player of all time, gretzky is bust.
In terms of NHL prospects maybe Lindros
The rise of germany in hockey deserves a video on its own.
At least what I know, It's all thanks to the Powerplay26-program they started in like 2010 where they give more room for the young players in the top league (or something like that).
Rise of Finnish hockey recently is all thanks to a former coach of the national team, Erkka Westerlund. He put up a meeting in like 2008 where all the "big bosses" of hockey would meet and he wanted to reform the junior development program, focusing more on individual skills (without forgetting the Finnish style of play in hockey), better co-operation between the national- and youth teams (better tracking of development and room for improvements of the prospects). This was made possible by hiring a fulltime coaches to each of the national junior teams starting from like U15 or something.
@@ibee7823 I actually also have to credit the Suiss NLA and its marketing towards to the german markets, it provided a real stepping stone league for German players to develop, and garnered great fan interest in the game. Then the silver medal in 2018 really brought the worlds attention to german hockey.
The Spengler cup too
I think if the federal government knows it has potential to compete with the best, it will continue funding ice hockey development - and Germany will be a force alongside the traditional greats. I
@@GusMacGus313 Germany gives a shit about hockey. Soccer is important and that's it. Why do I know this? I am from Germany and I played semi pro hockey there
That 962$ doesn’t even account for how much it is to play on a AAA or even AA team, my mom always jokes that if I didn’t play hockey, we would be Millionaires living in a mansion
Yeah 962$ is low low. Thats less than i paid for single A. 962$ is the equipment but then you have Travel cost, league registration costs, and in most cases you have to pay to enter tournaments with your team, then you have hotel costs in that case. Its crazy to think that there could have been some kid who was better than Gretzky who never got to leave the Pond because his family was poor. If youre not middle class or upper middle class you are dead in the water
Ya my skates alone are more then that
Being a goalie is easily gonna cost you thousands of dollars
@@le_Pooch my goalie said he wants custom pads and I ask how much, he says 1200 and that was Black Friday, it’s ridiculous
True, we had to take a loan out so I could play AA, I was lucky though, my buddy gave me some Bauer supremes that he only wore a couple times for my skates, helped me get rid of my little $50 skates😂
I so hope Michkov reaches his potential he seems like he be someone that would make the NHL even more enjoyable to watch.
Me too, until he plays against Finland...
Only after his khl contract is up in 2026
Sweden pocket michkov in iihf
Why would he sign such a long amateur contract? You would think his goal would be to get to the NHL asap. His parents probably messed it up for him.
I play beer league in central Japan. We have 22 men's league teams, most of it is the legacy of Paul Kariya and the Nagano winter games which really sparked a passionate (though not widespread) interest in the world's greatest sport.
Thats awesome to hear. Cheers from Canada
That's so cool bro! Cheers bud!
Absolutely LOVE The Golden Eye song, you have on this video. Totally EPIC Rob.
Saw michkov live in Dallas for the U17s. One of the best players I’ve seen live. Scored a hat trick with ease and the shots he was pulling off were nuts
I love how hockey is growing around the world. Nino Tomov from Bulgaria is someone I think has the potential to develop into at least a top6 dman in the NHL.
Lol
Well I goddamn hope so. Never heard of him but it'd be cool to perhaps one day see Bulgaria play in the world championships, and a top 6 defenseman would certainly help get there.
@@topiheimola69 He's played pretty well in the Czech Extraliga.
Matvei Michkov is probably the best prospect I've ever seen. I've never seen any kid close to his age with his goal scoring ability except maybe Ovi. I think he's quite a lot better than Bedard. He probably won't go first though, because of his KHL contract.
most KHL contracts signed at that age have an NHL out. But these outs only are for the NHL, if the player is sent to the AHL or any other league, the KHL team can recall them. Thats why many russian prospects don't play in the AHL. Michkov's contract most likely has this out so he probably would play in his true rookie year
@@spark__plug2009 Interesting, didn't know that. I don't think he's gonna have to play in the AHL anyway.
@@spark__plug2009 youre 100% but the KHL is the wild west. All it takes is the club putting a lot of money in the pocket of Michkovs agent so he doesnt include the NHL out clause. Basically we have to hope the kid wasnt screwed over.
@@birdiec Michkov wouldnt have signed a contract without on out clause. Remember he has parents that are involved in his decision making too lol
Ovechkin..
I'm always skeptical of prospects. So many double the points of superstars but turn into total busts in the nhl. One can only hope to see the next best thing but proping up prospects like this often turns sour.
I think it’s a sign of stupidity to scout children like they are close to the nhl. I remember I played with Nick Suzuki in minor hockey and no one woulda thought he was going to the nhl at that age. There was at least 7 guys on my team that people woulda picked over him. Parents actually got kicked off the team for the year when they got mad at the coach for making Suzuki captain. Growth spurt matters way to much in hockey. This kid might grow and lose all his skill, or he might not grow at all. I’ve seen both happen to plenty of unreal children when everyone else develops.
Yes I remember Sean Day, he was the next Bobby Orr and today is a pro but far from NHL regular status
Canadian here. Love to see the diversity in the hockey league. Especially with high end prospects
Flyers just drafted Michkov. I’m beyond hype. We gotta wait a few years, but the kid seems like he’s looking forward to playing in the League.
Rob always creates amazing content, I was there to see you hit 1 000, 10 000, and I'll be here to see you hit 100 000 subs!🥳
I don't even follow hockey that much anymore but can't stop watching these videos.
Another great video, Rob… Keep it up brother!
The 2023 Draft Class is stacked as fuck
Bedard, Benson, Carlsson, Mitchkov, Dvorsky and Fantilli are Superstars in the Making
Slavkovský and Nemec also from Slovakia I think they will be pick before dvorsky
Danm the research here is def well appreciated, nice job
Love the videos keep up the good work
Slovakia is getting a lot of great prospect right now. Nemec and Dvorsky etc
Slafkovský, Nemec, Dvorský, Molnár, Ridzoň, Sisik, Strbak, J. Chromiak. Just a few off the top of my head and I'm sure there's more coming. Last draft there were many aswell. I'm glad hockey is growing there.
Don’t forget about Mesar
@@humesspoon3176 Yea, him too. Can't believe I forgot about him :D I've been really impressed by his compete level. Such a hard working guy too. Top 15 in my eyes.
@@MrSharkFIN Heh, understandable. I mean, the fact that we can’t keep up with all the talent shows how great Slovakia’s development programs have become. I’m so proud of them.
And yes, Mesar is a shoe-in for the first round. It’s pretty deep this year, so we’ll see.
We need more uploads your videos are insane
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Germany has had several great players before Uwe Krupp and Jochen Hecht in NHL.
Erich Kühnhackl was the German Lemieux in his prime. 83 goals and 155 points in 48 German league games during his best season. He was a big boy! Also Udo Kiessling was also great, Markus Kuhl, Gerd Truntschka, Dieter Hegen...
Italy also had one of the most dominating international lines of the 80's. Zarrillo - Orlando - Topatigh were lighting the red light every night, although Gaetano Orlando had a dual citizenship with Italy and Canada.
The era of Hecht, Ehrhoff, Sturm and Seidenberg is over and the era of Draisaitl, Seider, Peterka, Reichel and Stutzle is beginning!
This channel should have so Many more subscribers I love this channel soo much your my favorite UA-camr
Aito seems like a mix between Crosby and Kane. Great shot, speed, and hands.
I hope bedard and michkov live up to the ovechkin Crosby comparison it would be rly good for the league
You’re my favourite hockey youtuber big time!
Thanks for the support dude!
I'm always excited to see the Japanese excel in a sport. Looking forward to Ando
Would you consider making a video ranking the 1st round draft picks from the 2021 NHL draft?
I love these prodigie vids 👍🏻
Didn’t realize I’ve been watching your videos and we’re from the same place! Kelowna
Props for using the Goldeneye theme
Im always gonna root for someone who comes out of a less privilaged country and enviroment. Hockey is in many ways similar to motorsports that you see the same nationalities mostly and rarely do you see someone with poor financial situation making it out of junior categories or even having chance to have it as a hobby for a long time.
If I was selecting 1st overall I wouldn't be scared of waiting for Michkov.
Bond theme really elevated this video
Always does
You are seriously underestimating Iguchi.
How?
$962? really? It was over $1000 just to sign up to the league. I'm from a small town in Alberta so the travel costs alone for the year was 10x that. Nevermind needing bigger skates every year, taller sticks. Pretty much all new/used equipment every 2 years. I really dont know how my parents did it on top of feeding the 3 of us kids
$962 for equipment. Not for the league.
@@Milehighsnake98 even just equipment. Skates and sticks are like $300 each. Chest protector another 150. Pants 150. Helmet 100.
There is $1000 before we're even fully dressed.
@@tomwilson3969 Oh I know. My skates alone are $650. I had to buy my son 2 pairs of skates last year because with the supply shortage he had a growth spurt right before tryouts, and the only skates we could find were either $70 or $400. Turned out they were both wrong for him (his skating was much more labored and he was much slower and less confident in the expensive skates the before) and we had to buy another pair partway through the season, which was another $250, but made a world of difference in his play. He's broken 2 sticks this year ($100 each), spent the money on a good stick for him now ($179)...and he's 11. So I know.
@@Milehighsnake98 oh man your experience sounds similar to what my parents went through. I went through 3 pairs of skates the one season. Finally when the feet stopped growing it was $500 for a nice fitted pair. And from about 12 it was 3-5 sticks a year. Started buying the pro grade sticks. The same ones they use in the NHL. About $300 to $500 a stick but at least they last me more then half a season. Gloves were 200. That's why I think the average number given is a little low.
@@tomwilson3969 I guess in a way I was lucky because we had to replace his skates after the first 2 years not because he outgrew them, but because the boot broke down. His feet didn't grow. Not often a kid is wearing the same size skates at 10 as he did at 7. But last year, we didn't realize that anyone made a "mid cut" boot for hockey skates, and that's what the expensive ones were. So he wasn't getting the ankle support he was used to and he was bending his ankles bad, had never done that before. It was printed in real small letters on the back of the boot where you wouldn't think about it. Got normal skates and he took off.
Several issues here:
-Iguchi was never an elite prospect. He was the most popular because armchair scouts on YT were wow’d by his moves.
-Ando was first draft eligible in the 2021 draft. He’s not going to see his name called this year either (most likely).
Can’t forget golf too on the sports prices
The golden eye menu music 👌
Ando's stats have regressed each year in the USHL. 1 goal 4 assists this year in 15 games. On top of being 5'8".
Even worse now as he dropped to the NAHL as an overager
this video is blacklisted by yt. had to search your name to get to this video. wth youtube! we want RTH at the top of our pages.
We had a kid on my little brothers team who led the state in scoring at squirts from Japan
🦅🔴⚫️
@@cmunsell fly eagles fly
I grew up without much, but played hockey from age 10. I delivered newspapers year round and mowed lawns in the summer. That covered game fees and used or cheap equipment. It doesn’t have to be expensive.
I’m 37 now, so it wasn’t ages ago. Wasn’t really a big deal back then. My friends and I wanted to work to make money. Raking leaves, shoveling snow, mowing lawns, washing cars, paper routes, etc. An afternoon on the weekends and a kid can earn more than enough to play hockey.
After Drai, and between Stützle & Seider, Germany is well on their way. Boy. I’m so hype
Also, it’s Seider like “cider,” not like “cedar”
Yeah I agree hockey is expensive. My family have spent over a thousand dollars at the age of 11. I play in Australia and the rink is owned by figure skaters so I get almost no ice time. I have to play up too because there’s no enough kids in my age group and I don’t want to play down. I used to play in Canada and North America but I had to move due to my Dad’s work.
what about f1
3:00 My childhood Hero, Paul Kariya, Is half Japanese I believe, or has japanese heritage
Yes, Paul Kariya's father is indeed Japanese.
Wow I didn't know that! That's awesome
Kelowna is my home town too !!
Is that the N64 Goldeneye music in the background?
1:17 that’s my rink! Bellingham sports plex
A lot of hate on here in regards to the kids from Japan. Sure, the talent pool is hugely different from the US, Canada, Europe and Russia, but when you’re good, you’re good. I’d bet pulling together the top 13-15 skaters in Japan at the PW/Bantam level and putting them up against top tier teams in either country and you’d be surprised. There are several Japanese players all through the USHL, NAHL, NA3HL levels and a few of them are REALLY good. The problem is playing on smaller ice sheets, adjusting to a more fluid game, and dealing with the mental aspect of the game. It’s definitely not an easy transition, nor is it easy fighting for roster spots when you’re virtually unknown.
I personally think it’s awesome seeing all these “smaller”, unknown countries producing talent. 🇯🇵🎌
Not to mention the lacrosse goal was scored for the actual team Russia, not U18 or U20. There was even a rumour in Russian press regarding putting him into olympics roster after this game.
I see you used the Bellingham Blazers rink in this vid! ha
I want to see the league grow more
Where did you get 900 from? I wish!
Wait your from kelowna? Hell yeah!
The Michkov v Bedard rivalry should be crazy. Michkov looks a decent bit better, but the transition from Euro to North American hockey can be hard for some players. I hope they get drafted by division rivals similar to Crosby and Ovi.
I hope too
Russia3 league and MHL aren't the same. Russia3 is the third tier of pro hockey, while the MHL is Russian juniors, equivalent to major junior in North America. It's not fair to compare Michkov's MHL stats to Ovi and Malkin's Russia3 stats
Russia3 was the 3rd ranked league within Russia during Ovi and Malkin's time in Russia. In 2009 they restructured Russian hockey to develop into Russia1 = KHL, Russia2 = VHL, and Russia3 would mostly resemble the MHL and consists of talent that would've been similar to what it was pre-2009. If anything, talent pools have gotten much deeper since the early 2000's.
Back in 2011 Germany also had like 6 NHL players: Ehrhoff, Seidenberg, Marco Sturm, Alex Sulzer, Korbi Holzer, Thomas Greiss, Marcel Goc, (Marcel Müller)...
Where did golf land on that chart? It's rather expensive as well.
had no idea mitchkov was signed in the KHL that long. makes the draft a lot more interesting when he's eligible. cant see him escaping the first round either way because lots of guys who go late first round don't pan out so I don't think its any more risky taking him. but do you take him top 5, wait the years out & risk him not coming here? very intriguing
I would consider taking him at #2. I'm fine with waiting a few years if my team gets one of the best players on the planet. Plus if you are picking high you probably are in the middle of a rebuild and can afford to wait.
@@brenzyc8703 true. but just to throw a situation out there. what If he doesn't end up coming over. what if he wants to stay. as a GM is that something you'd risk because if he doesn't come over then you just completely wasted the 2nd overall pick. I do agree that his talent absolutely warrants using a top 5 pick on him
Draisaitl almost had 200 points in 29 games? That’s insane. How do you not go first overall while putting up stats like that. Even in whl, 105 points in 64 games is crazy
Well first went Ekblad who as a defender had in OHL 53(20-33) points in 58 games and second was Reinhart who had 105 points in 60 games - almost same as Draisaitl, so yeah he went third... What is more crazy is that in this draft Pastrnak went 25th, Point went 79th lmao
I'm 99% sure that Michkov has a NHL clause in his contract. Which means if he signs NHL contract his current KHL contract terminates or if he signs and doesn't get play time in NHL and gets sent down instead of AHL he'll go to KHL.
@@user-ex2ss9hv3w Could be but I don't think Michkov would sign contract without that. If his goal is NHL.
4:52 my home rink
09:00
Do you wann know what did spark the German Hockey!
2010 World Championships in Germany. Game1 "Auf Schalke" 1:0 vs Team USA!!!
This win sparked a whole generation to sign up in Nürnberg, Erfurt, Mannheim, Berlin, Köln, Krefeld, Füssen and other Hockey town across the country! Hockey has a great tradition in the east of Germany due to the soviet occupation! And now its waking up again!
AND I FUCKING LOVE IT!!! HUGE NHL FROM GERMANY, OUT! :)
In England I have played against people 5 years older then me. And England has lots of good players in there leagues.
So it's Michkov, Wright and Bedard being the top prospects?
Definetly
Idk if you already know by now, but Seider is pronounced "zyder", with a soft "s". "ei" becomes the sound that "y" has in the word "why".
I spent 2.5 grand last year for pads blocker glove chest protector and I've already spent 300$ for sticks this year and my team supplies 2
Let’s go fellow Kelowna bc native
Soccer is super expensive. The local youth team cost $400 just to play.
Robs from kelowna??
0:17
Racing: Am I a joke to you?
10:00 Seeder????
Daniel sprong has trouble staying involved in the nhl but look at his junior stats
Karting defs the most expensive youth sport.
I'm laughing so hard at the sad puppy! Hockey is the one thing I did, where I said who cares about the cost, a small fortune, it's the best damn sport there is!
I believe really any form of Motorsport is much more expensive, like it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars per year and that’s ONLY IN KARTING. Hockey is probably the most played expensive sport, by that I mean that many more people play hockey rather than race karts.
So basically your parents have to be very rich to race or you have to get sponsored very young, such as F1 drivers Lewis Hamilton or Kimi Raikkonen who had so much talent that they were sponsored as like 7 year olds or maybe even younger idk.
Imagine thinking it doesn't get cold in Arizona.
That average price for hockey that was averaged for hockey... Sounds a bit low... I remember at least 3 seasons in a row, my parents had to give up almost everything, to cover the $1,000+ amount that was needed in order to play for just one of those seasons
Is that the golden eye music I’m hearing?
Rob I love your videos I've been subbed since 2k, but you're starting to recycle video ideas. Would love to see you do some videos on your favorite players, maybe important moments in Canucks history and how you remember them etc. Keep making great videos dude
Not recycling dude, just making videos I am interested in. If I am interested in certain stories and those stories have major updates I will make update videos
bruh so goalkeeper pads are more expensive then whole players gear
Stutzle tape job is so bad but it seems to work haha
I pay way more for my season in IL we spend around 6k a season
I had no idea you were from Kelowna
Michkov or Bedard, then?
No way you’re from Kelowna, I live about an hour away !!
The kid in the moritz sieder clip is my friend
Seider is pronounced like the drink, "cider"
10k a season to play in the AAA team in here.
It makes me wonder how could it even be possible that with such a barrier we can assure that only the best players make the team.
Bedard and michkov gonna be the new ovi and Sid
Ando was draft eligible in 2021, and was not picked.
What about goaltending prospects?
Oh damn, you're in Cowtown?!? Hundreds of rinks?!? Where I am we have three times the population of Cowtown and only 7 rinks until last year.... with three new sheets this year we're still only at 10 sheets of ice D: And it's not cold enough to have ODRs...
I want it join the NHL I’m 13 and I’m learning to ice skate soon so I can play hockey or try to play hockey I’m going to try so hard to join the NHL because it’s a dream of mine since I found out what hockey was (I was 10yrs old)
Bruh.. Good luck then.
0:46 „laughs in motorsport“
Got that German prodigy coming out for the Blackhawk lukas reichel haha but no for real I hope one day he turns out half as good as draisaitl that would be nice
Bedard
0:08 karting 6 year old's racing in go karts that go 100kph the cart on its own is thousands of dollars than u need tires gas a way transportation to get to the races so a truck and a trailer etc.
Me: Wants to play hockey as a 12 year old
Also Me: Doesn’t even know how to ice skate
It's never too late to learn I started playing hockey at 13 didn't know how to skate at all and I'm Canadian (originally from Africa)fell in love with the game at 11-12 when the Oviemania was is full effect on and I never looked back
@@Clowis Wow! I’m gonna start learning!
Hey bro I didn’t start roller till I was 11 and I’ve until I was 13 and I played 4 good years of high school hockey and now I play for my schools club team so it’s never too late. I’m also in California where ice is kinda limited so if you’re in a good hockey town get after it and learn cuz you can still have years to develop!
I play in a beer league and I have seen some solid players that began playing hockey around 18-20yo. You catch up quickly. Especially if you have some open rinks or outdoor rinks where youa can practice by yourself even now and then.