Joker (2019) - REVIEW and DISCUSSION [Spoilers!]
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Eric Rick Carmen and Calvin talk all about the 2019 Movie - Joker - with spoilers galore
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I'm hearing alot of people say that the flashbacks after the "girlfriend reveal" was not necessary, but guess what.... there are alot of people who, even with the flashbacks didn't get that the relationship wasn't real ... lol ....
Exactly, that scene was necessary for most people who don't get how the Joker works.
The twist may seem obvious to some but the movie needs to adapt to all types of audience including the people that don't' have any experience with the character mind state.
Yep, the girl that was next to me, didn't catch it, the others next to her had to tell her. There's people that is slow to get things, that doesn't mean they are stupid
It's not just that... I thought that the flashbacks were also important to dramatise his "relationship" even more, making you see that the dates were real, not made up... that he actually went on those dates by himself all dressed up, wearing cologne etc., which makes it more twisted and sad.
You are absolutely right, my parents don't get it that Arthur never dates Sophie, they just thinks that she was scared because she see something wrong with him at that point of the story
her character is also very one-dimensional, we see her through his eyes so as he would want her to be - laughs at his jokes, approves killing of those people, calls the killer (him) a hero, comforts him when his mom is in the hospital. i kinda figured out something's not right after his stand-up at Pogo's. we didn't see her reaction to his uncontrollable laugh and she still goes with him afterwards
My god, I haven’t been able to stop thinking about this film since Thursday. Heath will always be special but what Joaquin did was next level. The scene on the cop car was mesmerizing and actually brought a tear to my eye. Fucking masterpiece of filmmaking!
Swank 47 fuck ! That’s right that part on the cop car and with the crowds I cry was amazing and beautiful
Same here bro! I also saw it on Thursday, and im still in shock. I have no words for this film, Masterpiece is an understatement!
Joaquin Phoenix joker version is fucking cool..
same here man. I can't get over it. i have watched it twice and i still watch reaction videos to its teaser , trailers etc lol. oscar is coming ♥️
Just got back from watching it again boys. It’s even more heartbreaking the second time around. Flawless is the only word that comes to mind...
The worst part was that Arthur was someone that wanted help and asked for help and everyone turned their backs on him. He recognised his condition, he went to a social worker therapist, he took meds. He wanted to get better and that for me was the worst part. Society turned their backs on someone willing to accept help. It could have been a totally different story for this man if he ever received even a little bit of help or compassion..
That's part of the political message of the movie. People who need help don't get it.
“But you’re awful, Mur-Ray”
Im totally getting this on "BLU RAYYYYY"
Murrrr rayyyy
I laughed when he kept mispronouncing his name every time. Just to add it onto what would happen later.
@@darthkenobi415 or fourr-kay 😂
"What about another joke Murrr-rrraaaay ?"
The soundtrack deserves a mention as well. Such a powerful score
You are right best and strongest soundrack
They managed to make Fred Astaire sound depressing. Amazing.
Indeed. The music was very subtle most of the time, you almost couldn't notice it, but you did. It got more noticeable to the end, probably to symbol that Arthur no longer doubts his existence - so the Soundtrack shows that it clearly exists too. Am i the only one who felt it like this?
Totally agree! Especially the music at the end, when Joker is on the car putting the smile on his face. It's such an epic scene and the score just takes it to the next level.
The composer has also done both Sicario movies, Chernobyl, Arrival and The Revenant,
I even felt bad for him after he shot murray, because that’s when he completely turned into the joker. He sat there with the coldest look on his face and was just shaking his leg, man what a great scene.
Am I turning soft, or did the Murray murder scene seem realistic as fuck? The whole movie is a dark twisted masterpiece
____ Nah it was very dark. I felt like I was watching one of those live leak videos
@@darianchambers3227
Seriously, no other movie made me feel like that, and I'm trying to really figure out what it was.
I have never watched a movie twice in a theatre, but this may be the one
Same I just felt sad everytime I saw him get closer to the madness.
Try In Bruges, got a lot of good shit in that one
Actually Arthur stopped laughing after he became joker coz he wasn't nervous or anxious or sad anymore
He has so many more eyes on him on the Murray show, but whereas he loses control at a simple comedy club, he is completely confident on TV.
You could say that the laughing was the Joker trying to break free of Arthur. Arthur is in pain when laughing where as Joker enjoys it.
@@Zikk0_o he's also off his medication, so the drugs aren't causing him to laugh now. he's completely embraced what he tried to run from.
@@kasperhawser6431 Yep, the drugs were only suppressing who he really was. Like he wrote in his journal, he was expected to act normal as if he had no mental illness.
Lakross101 that’s because he is behind clown ‘mask’ painted on his face
It wasn't the same woman at the end.
WalterWhite they didn’t even look alike
@@ZeroHero530 No they don't. WTF
@@ZeroHero530 he just didn't get it.
Gabriel Ferreira ever heard of a joke?
She wasn't the same. But she was made to look kinda the same like the social worker. Same hair-do, sort of clothes, etc. To have the audience question everything
“If I’m going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice” -The Killing Joke
My fav part was him coming to the stage like a damn boss. Then he even has the balls to admit the killings like it was nothing.
That’s the joker for you he sees killing as completely normal
@@jackj9816 since he himself already died (within) with the society.
Athan he just dose not see what wrong with it his fine with killing and really dose not care when someone tries to kill him he only try’s to out play Batman because he thinks it’s fun not because he is trying to get away
When you talked about that last scene in the fake gfs apt being ruined by the flashback, I don't the director was trying to cement the plot twist. Up until then, the audience has been kept in the fog so it would be weird to suddenly push that specific part. I think those flashbacks are more through Arthur's eyes moments were he is probably admitting that he made it up, whereas in other movies the main character would be shocked that it could happen. It throws you into a whirl because you don't know just how much control he actually has over his thoughts and actions.
Good point!
That's what I got from it too. It reminded me very much of The Sixth Sense, when The Twist was accompanied by similar flashbacks.
I also feel it was the movie's way of telling the audience, if they weren't already aware, that not everything was real, that Arthur's recollections and point of view is faulty. So now you start second guessing everything else that happened
Lakross101 I don’t see how that was ruined by the flashback tbh seemed very exaggerative on his end lol
Nah, that's just a thing directors do when they don't trust their audience to make their own conclusions and understand correctly what's happening. To the point where they literally have to spell it in your face... I agree that those flashbacks weren't necessary
I would love to see Joaquin in a movie full joker from start to finish
I would love to see juaquin play the fully evolved joker! The glimspes we got from it was fucking amazingly well acted, like when he dances down the stairs :)
@poopmannelson1 well in interviews he has said that he would not mind playing as the joker again it all comes down to todd Phillips if he would like to
@@bryanmejia1806 but the unknown makes it even better... The use of imagination makes it awesome. We might get disappointed like how i was slightly disappointed by the deadpool 2 movie. It was fun but not as fun.
@@jonathanmalangis2323 Agreed, My imagination literally views Joaquin as a sarcastic and mocking Joker than heath but in reality this will always be asked, is the movie what you expected and wanted?
I felt so sad for him that he laughed when he did not want to. Me and my friend went to see it and we had a 2 hour discussion afterwards, great movie
It was actually strongly hinted that Thomas Wayne is his illegitimate father because of the picture Arthur picked up of his mother in the file that said "such a pretty smile" -T.W. (Thomas Wayne). But then again was ANY of it real?
Bad things after bad things just started piling up in his life , you can’t help but feel remorseful and pitiful for him. He don’t deserve this things to happen to him, but after finally reaching his breaking point, he found his rhythm hence why he danced so gracefully,he felt confident after those killings.. no longer the insecure Arthur he was, his transition to Joker was done well.
I think the final scene was implying directly to the tragedy of the Wayne family demise. The realization that Arthur was once adopted and orphaned by his mother and now that young Bruce is also orphaned without any parents , that was the “joke” of it for Arthur at least to me. It was so symbolic to how Joker was born on the same day that Batman was born, Joker”s enduring chaos indirectly and unintentionally created Batman - both of which are victims of society, victims of the environment that their raised in.
Also, That midget scene and his friend was SOOOO intense.
We are suppose to find it funny, at the same time, we were we were scared for the midget”s life whether he will get out or not depending on Arthur”s decision, if he didn’t want any witness , he would’ve murdered Gary as well. It”s a really dark twisted humor in a moment that was unnerving and unsettling at the same time.
The things about the Joker persona that they also captured so well in the movie from the comics , not only they encapsulated his tragic downfall leading off a spiral of unfortunate events but also pointing towards the Killing joke multiple origins point- his unreliable narration to the audience letting us guess which one of those things he spoke of was true or false or was it all made up in his head?
And his actions and every act, his emotions , his thoughts are like a storm raging within his mind - the unpredictability of his character. It was done so well to a T, true justice to the chaotic nature of his conflicted character.
The Joker is the BEST DC movie I have EVER seen since TDK so far, I loved it, such a thought provoking movie from a great antagonist that people have known for ages.
Marvel: Spider-Man when arthur locked the door, you know somethings bad is goin to happen
Agree but say little person or something. Midget is just distasteful.
@@abcdefghi2749 the movie said midget. Plus, "small person" is usually used for children.
@@abcdefghi2749 facts dont care about your feelings
abcdefghi2749 I have a midget friend, and he would be offended if I called him little person.
My audience clapped at the Blood smile scene
Do you live in Hell?
The Boognish hE LiVEs iN A sOciETy
The Boognish 😂😂😂
@@applebottomjeans7571 LMAO 😂😂
@@applebottomjeans7571 No, he realizes The Rich don't deserve sympathy.
When Gary tried to open the chained door I was thinking "Please Arthur don't kill him. Please please please." This scene was so good.
"be kind to each other". I have never agreed with Rick this fast!
I noticed all the clocks were always 11:11 (Joker is the 11 card in a deck)
Oh, interesting!
A lot of people don’t know that in the comics, Joker has literally inspired cults that worship him. I feel like the end of this movie touched on it.
And, Batman and Joker have always been intertwined. This did it in a new/interesting way.
yae that makes sense.
Yeah even in gotham young bruce series the woupd be joker had worshippers
Why does the girl leave her door unlocked IN GOTHAM?
We don't know if that was also just Arthur's imagination or not
I used to live in an apartment and we wouldn't lock our door, mostly because we lost our key so we had to leave it that way.
We were still safer because there was always at least one person home at all times, but this is PREBATMAN Gotham, not Fox Gotham where every Batvillain came out before Batman, but snithole Gotham.
Here is an easter egg I havnt seen mentioned anywhere yet. Young bruce is on the playset and starts toward the fence to talk to Arthur. They tighten in on young bruce reach out and you get a foreshadow of Batman sliding down the Batpole
...the Batpole? I’m afraid I’m not familiar with that one 😂
Guess he’s a firefighter now
Another thing that no one seems to notice is that Arthur (Joker) has a job with clowns that are also mobsters which in various other interpretations of him he always hangs out with mobsters and even is one. His entire job in this film inspires his future and his crime.
GENIUS.
I've seen a couple of reviews and none of them mention the photo the Joker's mother is in. After killing her there is a scene where he is smoking while holding a photo of her. In the back you can see something that says "I love your smile - TW". Arthur doesn't even look at it because he throws it away after only looking at the front.
I don't know how people can miss that, it's pretty obvious.
Oh yeah,
"I've been looking forward to this"
I believe that there were news articles written about how the Wayne family got killed in an alleyway leaving their son alone in the world and the Joker read about it afterwards
During the movie I never thought about Joaquin Phoenix I just saw the joker he gave it his all and you can see it absolutely amazing movie
Surprise you guys didn't talk about the joke when he killed Murray.
prattable you watch the video at all man? try 15:15
@@banjomanmania9795 They don't specify which joke they're talking about. There was 2 jokes. I specifically meant the one when he pulls the trigger.
You mean Mur-ray 😂
The flashbacks in the apartment scene were powerful and drove the point home.
The 1930's WTF? Also the reason the fashions look like today is because the 80's is trending as fashion today.
Also Zorro the Gay Blade came out in 1981
On newspaper headline it mentions disaster in Ukraine which is a reference to Chernobyl
right? lol, it seems a lot of younger people really have no concept of a proper timeline...they think the 70's were the 90's and the 70's are the 30's lmao
@@SpeedOfThought1111 he looks old enough to know better, clearly not though
I couldn't believe he thought it could be the 30's.
The second she was okay with him following her I knew they were boutta pull a Fight Club move on us.
I'd argue the flashbacks are necessary because they're not for US, it's Arthur fully realising just what he has been doing to himself... Absolutely brilliant movie, on so many levels. Not only did we see Joker as a broken thing, but we also saw Joker as performer. Loved it.
Excellent movie he will win an oscar
Will he though? They don't really put comic book movies in the runnings for the Oscars. I don't think Heath Ledger would've received one had he not died. Not saying he doesn't deserve it, just asking if he'll even be nominated.
I C Renegade I definitely believe he will win because joker is unlike other comic book movies in a sense that it gives actors a chance to showcase their skills being that joker has a serious mental illness . I think heaths performance was also amazing and he would have won regardless of his death or not . It was a performance everyone left that theater will remember for the rest of their lives. That is what the academy is looking for and thats what joaquin has done
@@IBEtripz Well said.
The Joke was...He was going to leave a trail of blood, try and catch him." The End!
I saw it in Kyoto, a late show on a Wednesday night, and the theater was about 90% full, this movie is rocking!!
i came out of the cinema and the first thing i saw was the notif about this video, perfect timing.
i loved it, the weirdest movie experience in my life. people were laughing when i was completely terrified, and it terrified me. i wanted to laugh even tho i didn't mean to.
and then i was laughing when everyone else was terrified
10/10
This is the best movie Ive ever scene. Its the best comic book movie Ive ever scene. Insane
@Beverly Huttinger well the "superhero" shit was still here. Its just not the way Marvel does it. DC has always been grittier and more realistic and that will be proven with Batman 2021, and a man could hope that Joaquin would be in that
Mikey T because the flash tv show is known for its grittyness and being realistic?
@@gumbythehorse2540 CW. Look at the non-cw DC properties lol. In case you dont understand what I meant, anything WB or DC handles themselves is usually dark, gritty, and realistic. CW is given the rights for those characters and for those shows.
Mikey T so justice league, Shazam, Batman forever, Batman and robin, green lantern and catwoman are all gritty and realistic?
@@gumbythehorse2540 ok. Dc tackles harder subject matter, obviously a fucking dude flying in space isnt green or realistic.. if youre speaking on the movie justice league, that is a mistake all around. Idk what the big deal Batman specifically is more realistic and gritty than anything else in comics..
The CORRECT dosage is very important when dealing with mental illness.
Joker: where the whole movie is just a joke.
But you won’t get it.
Battlefield Earth?
First time watching this channel. The 30s? The 1930s?? What? I can’t stay for this haha
I though she would have been his wife like in the killing joke for a second until the apartment scene
I’m pretty sure there’s a storyline explored where joker is Bruce’s brother
When he first started laughing at the therapist at the beginning, I thought it was soo goddamn great that I was just smiling and kinda laughing to myself. Pretty crazy 🤪
The names on the theater signs shows it's set in the 1980s btw
When he started to dance when the cops got beaten up, I had a big grin and I know I shouldnt
6:15 Calvin hits the nail on the head
Just saw the movie, and this discussion was fantastic. I loved the movie, it's definitely going to stick with me for a while. Thanks for the great discussion as always, Blind Wave!!!
I believe the only time he was acting somewhat normal was the scene of him speaking face to face with Thomas Wayne in the bathroom. It seemed like a genuine moment were he felt "normal" for only a few seconds.
The tragic thing about that scene is that Arthur's pleas for help and love fell on deaf ears to Thomas Wayne. The fact that Thomas punched him despite that and focusing on his laugh (thinking that arthur was mocking him) shows the selfishness and ignorance of the wealthy to the poor and disabled. Just look at Donald Trump for example and the shit he says on national tv.
Heath’s pencil routine was ok but Joaquin’s knock knock jokes were killer
Eath's and Joaquin's have something similar. Whenever they went for a close up, the eyes are glassy, like no one 'human' lives inside, and it's all instinct to kill and harm. They did it too well. But Joaquin's better maybe because it wasnt a 'superhero' movie
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He's just the better actor
In laughing, he distracted them and did protect a "little person in distress" so he empathises with anyone who gets abused.
Rick, that scene WAS needed..
Imagine if Joker killed everyone in the audience like in The dark knight returns.
That would have been too much but at least he kissed the doctor.
We need Carmen in some reactions with Calvin. I think she would be an awesome addition to the group
Police sirens right outside my window as she brings up police sirens. Spooky!
Such an amazing film. Seen twice now
I want to go at least 3 times
hahatoldyouso seen it twice also. Going to watch it tomorrow again
"It takes you down a dark alley and leaves you there and you have to find your own way out and you have to make youre own sense of it and that is what makes you crazy " calvin... just like batman/Bruce Wayne left in a dark alley alone and he has to make sense of it or it will make him crazy
80's. Blowout was playing at a theater, With John Travolta
I remember seeing that movie as a kid and the ending still gets me, because he failed.
I can see this version of Joker pull off the white night story!
Best scene is the talk show appearance. It was absolutely uncanny and eerie. The tension. You don't know where the conversation with Murray was going. Whether they would try to cut him off, what would happen after he pulled the gun which you knew he was going to do. Best Joker scene I have ever seen.
Scene where he crawled into refrigerator was most insane part of the movie
But what about the incredible Glitter Band song sequence where he finally becomes “Joker”. That was the best scene in the movie. I was cheering. Lol
I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, but there was a shot of little Bruce sliding down the pole as he's running up to the gate. An homage to 60's Batman.
I thought the girlfriend was gonna become a black harley quinn
Same!
I really wanted her to be kind of maniacal as well
My favourite part was when he's laughing during the Murray show because it sounded different from the previous laughs, it sounded like a real laugh instead of the nervous one he had the whole movie. It's like he got genuine joy listening Murray list all the damage he's caused.
I loved that part. The laugh almost sounded put on but it was controlled. You could tell he had become confident in being the Joker by that point.
Can I just show love and Praise to Joaquim Phoenix The Joker. The script, environment, timeline, character development and appearance was all on point. I was basically team joker thru this whole film, the declassification of society the political movements it affected his perspective of reality. The lies of Penny fleck crushed him even more. He was basically coming out of his shell and he was waking up from his daydreams and grasping the truth. It's either he remains as subtle Arthur or becomes The Joker who has been seen and has an influence on his followers. Great Film
Went Thursday opening week as I didn't want to be spoiled during the week. Amazing movie! Take out comic book inspiration and you get a real life scenario happening in society today. While movies like Endgame and a Spider man film bring us spectical and joy, it's the smaller more engaging drama film that that makes me enjoy movies so much. Like Dark Knight I doubt will get much awards recognition. I hope to be proven wrong.
i actually like the idea of them possibly being brothers. because it would make more sense why bruce couldn't kill him, rather than just him refusing to kill anybody.
Joker in the cop car reminded me of Heath ledger joker also when they kill the waynes and the pearls drop reminded me of Tim Burtons batman.
Despite the fact that the Joker is an adopted son (I'm not sure, as Thomas Wayne couldn't have forged all this to get rid of an unwanted son?), The film's interpretive key lies in his mother's medical diagnosis: delusional psychosis and narcissistic personality disorder, considering that the Joker also suffered from depression and self-esteem problems (the narcissistic wound can be observed by the absence of the father figure and his desire for attention and recognition, as an artist). As the circumstances add up to the fact that the Joker stops taking the medication, the symptoms become more pronounced. In the end, all the repressed anger is manifested, in addition to his narcissism, no longer projected on a father figure, but on the symbol into which he has become. In addition to all this, Arthur suffered severe abuse in childhood. It is interesting to note that he has no memory of this. In order for his ego to survive, he created a fully idealized image of his mother. It is clear that due to her mother's mental illness she would be unable to transmit any affection to her son. To make matters worse, due to neurological problems, including head trauma, Arthur developed a pathological laughter disorder, an uncontrolled emotional expression, which led the Joker to isolate himself from people, further deepening his fantasy, and even naive , of the world.
I think the end with him standing on the car was also a delusion
Thank you for mentioning the line in his journal about the mental health - very much true
The movie was set in 1981.
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I think that flashback sequence was to indicate that the character of Arthur himself was quietly realizing that those memories were not what he initially thought they were before entering her apartment, and it wasn't a sequence specifically meant to inform just the audience as is often the case with this stuff... I suppose they could have possibly got the point across in a more nuanced and clever way without confusing the audience, but in my opinion there's no better scene that exemplifies the kind of insanity he's personally dealing with.
It’s not just dark humor, it’s humor you can only understand if you get it.
And if you don’t get it...
*YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE*
Lol
I think the flashback scenes with the girlfriend served another purpose. It was the director saying, we will let you know (for sure) when there is a delusion of Arthur. This means that the whole story wasn't a delusion, or a joke that he tells the doctor at the end. Just my thoughts.
Just like Heaths different scar stories if he went to another psychiatric we would see a different movie..
the movie took place in the 1980s the silent film thin was they were doing a special showing of old Charlie Chaplin movies as an event. It was a gimmick for the rich and powerful as an event to go to since this would have been five years after the real Charlie chaplin had won a lifetime Oscar in our world.
Watch Hannibal series you'll be as gripped and conflicted!
The answer is summed up by "If I have to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice". You'll have to make up your own mind on his origin. It's a freaking amazing movie.
Anyone else notice how much these 4 were saying "like"? I started like laughing after a while. Like wow
Why did you say that😭😭😭
The flash backs weren't for the audience, it was joker coming to the realization that they weren't together n it was all in his head. He understands now that he is crazy n has nothing.
I love this lot, I love how contemplative they are, theres a great dynamic here, great show
We realize that we create Joker. And at the same time, we ARE Joker. That's why it's so uncomfortable.
Hear me out, but what if the ladie’s little girl grew up to be Catwoman
I always suffered the Wayne's deaths (games, series, etc) but after seeing the entire movie, when they showed the alley scene I didn't feel sad at all and that was so shocking for me. Plus the bloody smile scene, best fucking scene I've ever seen in my life!
Also I've seen people say he's not the "real" joker and one reason was the lack of the acid bath. But I believe the "acid bath" was done to the City as a whole. He "threw" the city into the "vat" that is the chaos and darkness that is Gotham before Batman shows up.
*We don't know, you get to decide.*
and FIX THAT SWORD RACK behind you PLEASE!!! LOL
^
I love the fact that they left his true identity a mystery, he was adopted so we don’t know where he comes from and fleck is his adopted moms last name and is Arthur the name his mom gave him or?
OR was his mental illness inherited from his mother, which means Thomas Wayne would be his father. I love the fact that this movie gives us multiple paths it could have been, especially since the narrator isn't that reliable.
@@Flashback007 My interpretation was that he (unless of course he imagined everything) actually was Thomas Wayne's son he just spent money to cover it up, getting Arthur's mother locked up which drove her crazy who then abused Arthur. (When Arthur looked at his mother's file there was an adoptation paper but it was completely blank which i would guess is because of the cover up. Also there was the photograph with the young mother with T.W. on it obviously Thomas Wayne so their relationship could very much be real.)
25:10 "it might be a mistake for this movie to have a message"
But that's the point. It's not about making money. It's about sending a message.
11 minutes in you talk about when he killed the guy that gave him the gun. My thoughts were, did that guy actually give him the gun? He told their boss that Arthur tried to buy a gun form him, and at that point I thought it was just to set him up. But then you get the scene where Arthur says "It was his gun" and the guy denies it. It made me wonder. But I really had doubts when the guy actually came over to Arthur's house to see if he was ok after his mother's death. That didn't seem like the kind of thing someone who set you up to be fired would do.
See if he was okay was an excuse. He then starts talking about "making sure their stories were matched"
Thats another thing that makes this movie amazing you cant tell what actually happened and what didnt
What we see in the movie is from Arthur perspective. The way I see it, he is seeing him self as a victim. I believe that he actually steal the sign, and then people chase him, just like what he boss says. However on his head people picking on him. Same thing with the gun. He stole it from Randall. Randall never give it to him. Also with the three guys on the subway. He killed them for no reason. Remember they arguing weather the killer wearing mask or paint? Later we find that Arthur have the mask when he paint his face. He never been bullied, it just inside his head and then he blame the society for his delusion. I take the naration from people around Arthur as "real" instead his fucked up mind.
@@ahadahanafi2729 same I gonna rewatch the film and see if the sign is in his appartment
I didn't like it as much as I had hoped, but I liked the ending with Murray & the joker basically being born that night. Also when he killed the guy in his apartment was pretty funny how scared the other guy was.
Jack Nicholson did a phenomenal job as the joker and showed the comedic side of the joker. Heath Ledger did a phenomenal job as the joker and showed the psychotic side of the joker. Joaquin Phoenix did a phenomenal job as the joker and showed the human side the joker.
Jared Leto did a job as the joker and showed the gangster side of the joker?
1989 "Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?"
2019 "You get what you fucking deserve!"
Best scene for me was the end where he makes the bloody smile where he truly becomes the Joker so sad
The psychologist at the end wasn't the same as the beginning
Seby Emanuele the same women
@@TheKitchenRat no she wasn't
Seby Emanuele who was it then...
Seby Emanuele I’ve just looked on IMDB you might be right
@@TheKitchenRat another character i think it looks similar on purpose to make you think he imagined those things
It is set in 1981. And he didn't kill his neighbor. He doesn't kill anyone who hasn't wronged him.
No sequels or continuation should ever be made of this film. It's perfect. It is driving me crazy wondering if anything was real or was it all a delusion of a crazy person.