Guess the Match's Star Rating!
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You guys should seriously follow through with the Sleeper or Stinker idea. One full video dedicated to reviewing a match whether popular or forgotten, breaking down all the moments in the match, maybe even going in depth on the build up to the match, how good the crowd was, how good commentary was, theatrics in the match, story telling within the match, ATTIRESSSS, and how the match affected both wrestlers later in their careers. I love your guys’ regular content, but hearing you guys talk about wrestling is great no matter what, and I think doing so with a different content format could be beneficial, exciting, even educational for us viewers. Keep it up regardless, long live Stacheclub🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
The rule of Meltzer: if it happened in WWE, deduct 1-2 stars; if it happened in Japan or AEW add 1-2 stars.
Yeah his ratings are well off. That Jericho Vs Regal match was definitely worth more than 2 stars.
-1 star for a women’s match too
I mean maybe? WWE themselves have always been synonymous with bad matches that either end with double count-outs, disqualifcation, non-finish. Coincidencedentally, that reputation has really only ended now that the piece of sh*t Vince Mcmahon is out of the picture.
Fun Fact for people who don't know: that belt Dante currently holds is a _real_ belt that was used in the company back in the Attitude/New Era. A fan gave it to them back in the Lumberland days
Definitely wasn't a new gen belt, as the winged eagle was still in use during the early Attitude Era (they switched to the big eagle belt on the RAW after Mania 14, when Austin won his first title).
Definitely a cool piece of trivia, though, and cool that they have it. Just wanted to clarify that point.
Way to spoil who won this since John was holding the title the whole clip.
@@metalswifty23 Fair enough I always get the belts confused since they both look so similar
@@jonathancohoon uh....sorry?
@@jonathancohoon Dont read the comments before you watch the video then?
Note Stone Cold wasn't 60 he was 57 at the time he face Owens. Also this was the 4th Planet of the Apes in the new reboot series but This is the 10th overall. The first ever one came out in 1968
The problem with a quiz like this is that you have to get into the mindset of someone like Dave Meltzer, while also taking into account that at least half of the matches will be during Vince McMahon's atrocious booking. So you could have a match of excellent performers, but Meltzer won't rate it very highly if McMahon had his fingers all over it. In short, there are way too many variables to account for.
Oooooor it’s just his personal opinion? An opinion that matters no more than yours or ours? Opinions that hold no merit on anything and are not representative of any match’s quality as that’s subjective.
@@247charlie247found the Meltzer simp
@@247charlie247I hear you and I agree, but it is a bit silly Dave doesn’t think Kurt has a single 5 star match
@@MrBoxreviewswhy is it a bit silly?
Also some matches with good performers sucked. He rates matches, not names.
Taker vs Angle is one of the best and most underrated matches of all time imo
Fans taking the Meltzer star rating as gospel is still one of the weirder things about wrestling to me
Nobody does nowadays. But for a long time, it was the only indicator for the quality of a match if you wanted to pick your matches from a certain show. That's why it got popular. Not in a "this match is better than that match cause Meltzer said so" way but in a "I don't know which matches I should check out, let's look at Meltzer's recommandations" way. Now we have Cagematch which is an all around much better indicator.
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I upvote this.
@@MJ-rr4hd i also commented this on their latest video… upvote on that aswell
it has more likes 👍
Speaking of Batista's best matches; Fun fact: Meltzer gave Batista vs Undertaker 4 stars... 4 times. Yes, 4 different Taker vs Batista matches got exactly 4 stars from Uncle Dave.
That is interesting
What are these 4 matches ?
@@raouftaoutaou1687they would be Mania 23, Backlash 07, Cyber Sunday 07 and Survivor Series 07.
They had a very good Rivalry. One of the best ever
The Stone Cold/KO match was definitely more than a novelty match!! Bret vs Vince or Rock vs Rowan could be considered novelty. Those two put on a hell of a match!! Definitely deserves more than a novelty tag!
That Big Show/Mark Henry match was the one where the ring collapsed. It's a low-key banger too, worth going back to watch.
And then Cena and Del Rio had a Last Man Standing Match in the broken ring.
So you are saying it wasn't just two big meaty men slappin eachothers meat?
We need more of these
For the Halloween Havoc match, I liked how Brian Zane put it in his Warrior in WCW video: "This match has some of the most boring wrestling I have ever seen. Trying to describe all the moves hold for hold of this match would be like trying to describe colors to a newborn baby, it would be pointless, moronic, and someone would soil themselves by the end of it." Also, for why Regal vs Jericho match and the Triple Threat for the Hardcore title were probably low was because they were short. The reason for the Hardcore match for being so short as well is because Russo always thought, "No one cares about the wrestling bro! No one likes that fake stuff bro!" Even though that is the most real thing on the show....ugh
“I mean… Lego Star Wars. I know what happens” is peak stache club. so real 😂
I never got a WCW PPV but If you do go back and watch Hogan and Warrior @ HH 1998, you have to find the TV segments that were the lead up to it on Nitro. They take stinkin the joint out to a new level.
“Kane, Goldberg, Sasha” had me weaaak 😂
Big Show vs. Mark Henry was the one where the ring collaped. The paperview happened in San Antonio, Texas. i was there in person to watch.
4:50 My favorite match of all time, the best ironman match ever. Meltzer underrated it.
Oh Jericho vs Regal.. the storyline based on Jericho pissing in Regal’s tea
10:45 i was there for this ppv as a kid in san antonio, and they did in fact do the broken ring spot with a superplex
That Halloween havoc match is hilarious. Hogan burned his eyebrows off and half his beard off with flash paper lmfao. Y’all gotta watch it.
Great video guys!
Batista's highest rated matches, according to Meltzer, are Batista vs Triple H inside Hell In A Cell at Vengeance 2005, Batista vs Randy Orton vs Daniel Bryan at WrestleMania XXX, and Evolution vs The Shield at Extreme Rules 2014.
7:41 John, Sasha was 11 years old
3:17 This match is always brought up when talking about either Taker’s or Angle’s best matches 😂
"Get well Darbs"
About that. Guess who came back tonight lol
the warrior hogan match is hilarious because i think that was the first time we heard MINUS 5 STARS
Pretty cool cap Dante!! where did you bought it? Can't find it online.
10:50 "two meaty men slapping each other's meat" dante what??!?
The main man Big E uses that term for matches involving big men.
I enjoy all of your quizzes, but guess the star rating is definitely my least favourite. I just don't care what Dave Meltzer thinks about pro wrestling
Then don't watch
@@waterbreathinggod1962its his right to comment and watch i too dont like but as a wrestling fan i see to criticize uncle dave more how he is so biased
@@TribalChief9000then doesn't that logic apply to waterbreatinggod too?
John’s sonics hat 🔥🔥🔥
The simultaneous smh on the wager is classic lol
These are probably the only quizzes I just sit back and watch. I don't pay attention to the match star ratings lol
Premiere prediction: john wins by wager
I think John wins aswell
Well you got the by wager part right
Oof
Close 😂
Im pretty sure that Great American Bash 2007 match between John Morrison (Johnny Nitro at the time) and CM Punk was directly caused by the death of Chris Benoit. He was supposed to win the belt and have an angle with Punk and then they slotted in Johnny Nitro.
Morson vs punk was supposed to be Benoit vs punk but that's when the Benoit tragedy happened
Wrong show. That was Vengeance not Great American Bash.
First off love the podcast! And John I’m with you , I love the planet of the apes movies !! It’s an underrated franchise in my opinion and the 4th was really good as well! Definitely recommend!
Dante with the comeback victory!!!!
Thanks for spoiling
@@maddogg2k855 Maybe don't read the comments that are about the video?
These are the best quizzes
Dante you should watch the Star Wars movies in the order they released (4-6, 1-3)
Star rating quizzes are definitely not my favorite, but it helps when I know the match. I had 15, went all in and guessed 1.75. It wasn't a very good match 😅
Billy Gunn vs Hardcore Holly vs Al Snow was indeed for the Hardcore Championship.
Your comment about Billy Gunn being at Wrestlemania 15 and still going. It's crazy his 1st Wrestlemania was 11 losing to Owen Hart and Yokozuna
Hogan vs Warrior. The fireball heard round thw world.
Damn should’ve went to John.
Please watch TLC match Christian vs Benjamin, such an underrated match. Enjoyed watching it when I was about 8
We have the Friendo Stache Club 😄😄
Let go John
I’m just here to say that those hoodies are the dopest hoodies I’ve ever seen
With the waget wasn't that the year where road dogg was going for the hard-core title and Billy gun was going for the European title and they swapped around mania
Crazy this drops and then Darby returns at aew dynamite the same night. Broken foot and nose and all. Man darbys in my top 5 all time favourite wrestlers. Dudes a maniac
God bless you all🤎 He cares for you!
1:20 its probably againts hhh in hiac that match was good could be 4.5
The GMM/Rhett & Link of The Wrestling Community.
it's comeback season and the Champ is back 🙂
Good old uncle Dave
John you’re right. With the newest planet of the apes, there is a total of ten. The first one started in 1968.
There’s like 10 Planet of the Apes movies but 5 originals from the 70s, one remake in 2001 and now 4 in the reboot series. The new ones are fantastic but the rest are terrible, I’d only suggest watching the OG movie just because it is a huge piece of cinema history. It was considered a huge it back then to be fair.
MINUS FIVE STARS!
"Where's Sasha?" at Armageddon 2003? She was watching as an excited 11 year old.
Go back and watch that Kurt/Undertaker No Way Out match boys! One of my favorites!
10:52 Pause Dante, Pause ⏸️....... Play ▶️😂
Turns out that Billy Gunn's first Wrestlemania was Wrestlemania 11, way before Wrestlemania 15. Even better, he was with the company before Wrestlemania 10 but wasn't on the card.
Mr.Guess (John) and Memory Man (Dante) superhero tag team
There are 10 planet of the Apes movies. There were 5 made in the 60s-70s. Then Tim Burton remade the original in like 2002. Now the current franchise, which I believe has all been prequel story before the original (I haven't seen any of the new ones), has seen 4 films.
Evps matthew and nicholas jackson
3:20 well it's not gonna be a 5 star because it's a Kurt Angle match and if we know 1 thing about him is Meltzer never gave 5* to any Angler matches
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Dave never gave Kurt Angle a 5 * match and that is a shame.
15-7-22 d title
The reason you might think there are more planet of the apes movies is because these are remakes
I understand that previously Meltzer's ratings had some prestige because he rated pretty much everything and didn't go over 5 stars, but now he gives matches 5 or more so easily. So I wouldn't take them so seriously, because it's always subjective.
Yeah you are right. Breaking his scale was stupid
Goldberg matches are capped at 2
I wish it was how many matches he had after WCW folded that was capped at 2.
Nailed that hogan vs warrior match. To this day, worst match I have ever seen
I saw the new planet of the apes movie just last night with my wife. BANGER🔥🦍
To touch on the planet of the apes thing, there are definitely like 13 movies, but there’s only 4 in the modern 2000’s from what I know. The rest are like pre 1980’s
And there is also the Tim Burton one which we do not talk about
@@richardclark1127 haha good point.
I wonder how much Dante spends on dunkin every year
Wrestling Hivemind
So, according to Dave Meltzer, AJ Styles vs Cody Rhodes at Backlash France in 2024 is better than cody vs roman at WrestleMania 40 (aj match was given 5 stars, cody v roman was given 4.5)
According to dave taker vs shawn is not a 5 star match but cody vs aj is it tells you everything you need to about how he rates his matches
Wager should have been Bryan Sheamus Mania 28 😂
Darby gets hit by bus And hes backk in AEW
9:28 that wasn't their first ppv. Aew's first ppv was double or nothing 2019.
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Dudes, if you want a good laugh watch Warrior vs Hogan in WCW. It... yeah.
I'm pretty sure Dante is right about the wager one being for the hardcore championship
Yes, it was for the hardcore championship. One of the lesser quality matches too.
The fact that old Dave did not give 5 stars to Taker vs Angle makes you understand how stupid his rating system is. I don’t get why people still give importance to him
Dante won by rollup distraction
Speaking of star ratings how was Ospreay vs Bryan only 6.5 stars, clearly was a 100 Star match "it was the greatest US match of our life time" 🤣🤣🤣
Is this is a sarcasm it needs to be dave meltzer is biased his ratings means nothing to the wrestlers
I just downloaded you guys in 2k24. Pick your entrance music.
Good luck everyone and good luck to john and dante
I wanna say the Punk v Morrison match may have felt odd cause it was a month removed from the Benoit tragedies.
It was actually the day before they found out he died.
The reason he no showed this PPV was because of what he did with his family.
@@linkvagar2336 That was Vengeance. This was a month after the Benoit tragedies. I just had to look it up because I didn't realize they had a rematch the next month.
12p
Also, Warrior vs. Hogan from 1998? Atrocious. God awful and never, ever should have been booked but, money talks. Oh and the Vengeance 2011 actually is the one where the ring broke apart from the superplex spot.
The Hulk Hogan vs The Warrior match is so bad that I would recommend not even watching it. Hogan tries to blind The Warrior, there is a back and forth with a low plow and a chair shot to end the match
Dante hates guessing games Pt2
Meltzers ratings mean nothing and the thing that validates them meaning nothing is that a Kurt Angle match never got five stars. The Cena/Orton match was an Iron Man Match as well. Ha, they did. So apparently these two have been fans for how long and don’t know that Hogan vs Warrior is one of the worst matches of all time?
I wish we all stop caring so much about one guy's opinion.
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