2:39 that shot of Ride of Steel and Predator with the water in front is really nice, but is like a bootleg version of the iconic El Toro - Kingda Ka shot with the water in the front lol
I would add a fresh new coat of paint to ride of steel, and I would add geysers around the helixes that shoot up as you rush through, and add a tunnel or a airtime hill on the straight track.
This is a nice park. It's my home park so I'll always have a special place for it. However, it could use some new rides, and definitely some new coasters. It's only been Six Flags for 2 years now, so give it time. They're revamping the water park for 2020, which is nice because it's legitimately a very good water park here. After that, we'll see what happens in the years to come.
I've visited the park my whole life, I worked there this year infact. It has improven so much in the past 2 years that Premier and Six Flags owned it it's unbelievable. Also according to guests who took surveys the park is in upper tier Six Flags. Top 3 in the country.
Better than Great America in Chicago? Discovery Kingdom or Magic Mountain in CA? Better than Great Adventure in NJ or Over Georgia? No. However, it's definitely a decent park for sure that with some TLC could be a great park someday.
It was physically rated above all of those parks overall. I was shocked too but seeing how nice it was this year I wasn't surprised. Every park scored below 9/10
Where did you get your information from? How do you think is park is upper tier anything?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 . So you're own infinite wisdom you think this park is better than SFMM, SFGV, SFFT, SFOT, SFDK just to name a few. So I am just curious to how do you think park is a upper anything?
Grew up in the area, and used to go when it was Darien Lake Fun Country. The park is built on land that used to be a lake -- Darien Lake. Six Flags Darien Lake is a rural area, but the proximity to a major city is about the same distance as Kings Dominion to Richmond, VA. But I will agree there aren't many hotel options near the park.
"Moose, moose, moose on the loose!" Never gets old, also, I agree that Ride of Steel is so much better at Darien Lake. The straight section and the giant helixes fit when they're over the water. It's almost as if the coaster was specifically designed for the setting at Darien Lake. They really should have used a different layout at SFA.
I grew up in the Buffalo area. Darien Lake's light show predates both its stints as a six flags. It also has a concert venue run by Live Nation that gets some pretty good acts, and when you buy a concert ticket, the themepark admission comes with.
@@Reality_a_thing Look at more than just the coaster lineup. The place is beautiful. Multiple lakes, surrounded by woods...the scenery is so beautiful. Also, there are other aspects to the place, such as a big, modern waterpark, good local food options, and a fantastic nightly laser show. It offers many unique aspects, not common in other Six Flags parks.
Noah Wisniewski the line up isn’t even that bad. The coasters are mostly average. The only 2 rides that I even consider bad is Mind Eraser and Predator, which have easy fixes with Mind Eraser getting the new Vekoma vest restraints and Predator can get the Iron horse
Darien Lake is the park I grew up going to, I’m 17 and I’ve probably been going at least once a year sense I was like 5. we’ve been season pass holders for the last 5 years and now we have memberships. The park has gone through many ruff times financially in the last 12 years but I’m very glad it’s still kicking! I don’t like some of the ways that Six Flags runs the park, for example, the rides games and stores close at 9:30pm now when it was 10:00pm for decades. They have been doing the laser show (it starts 10 mins after the rides close) for as long as I can remember. Six Flags did announce that they are remodeling the water park which sounds exciting, but I’m also worried that they might make the water park separate from the rest of the park. Over all this is my childhood theme park and I hope it lasts a long time and keeps getting improved!
I've been going to darien lake for 30 years and I've always loved it. I may be a little biased because I grew up in Buffalo but they've been doing the laser light show since I was a kid, always a great way to end the night.
@@codyfitzgerald290 I think Six Flags can justify putting an RMC Raptor here. Or, just an I-Box conversion of Predator, but i think a raptor would be more likely.
I don't see why new coasters would be out of the question or even unlikely. I mean, Six Flags re-acquaired the park last year and immediately added the Tantrum, so good things are just beginning.
Six Flags owned the park years ago, and did basically nothing with it. Hopefully they do this time. Nothing more frustrating than any park in any chain not getting yearly rides.
I don’t see why they wouldn’t. The park has been seeing a new coaster about every 10 years. I’m sure Six Flags wouldn’t wait that long, even if it’s seen in the lower tier. This place has RMC Predator/Raptor written all over it.
You need to camp there thats one of the better things about the place. There is hotels and cabins if thats what you want in the park. But its for campers. Then you can go in and out of the park all day anytime and no lines to get in. 🙂
35 years ago it WAS really big. In 1989 Magnum XL-200 at Cedar Point opened as the first ever 200 ft hyper-coaster. Nowadays the contest is to see who can make a coaster that is bigger, taller, faster, loopier, etc, and the new breed of coasters now dwarf the previously large Arrow coasters of the 80s. Even the Ride of Steel's first hill is 208 feet tall.
@@johnd5931 Yes, Jack Rabbit!! At the time Quantum Loop existed as well, that was my first upside down experience.. and what a strange one it was. LOL. I just hope Six Flags enthusiasts don't expect Darien to be as top tier as their other parks. Darien has need new coasters and updates for a very long time. I have been hoping for a Predator remake for YEARS.
@@n8ball058 According to Coasterpedia:"Quantum Loop was purchased by Salitre Magico, an amusement park in Bogota, Colombia. The ride opened there on 7/12/2004 with a new name, "Doble Loop" and continues to operate at Salitre Magico in Bogotá, Colombia."
@@mr.rollercoasters right?! Lol did you come back to this video a year later because you miss the park too? I did. Also I don’t remember seeing this video the first time but I found some comments I left a year ago lol
My dad was in a band that used to play in the park and we used to always stay to see the show. We never went on the rides but it’s like the one thing I remember about going as a kid.
I went here a lot as a kid. The light show was always amazing. I haven’t been there in about 15 years, but it doesn’t look like much as changed. When my mom was a girl you could swim in the lake. I remember there used to be a ride in doors, waited 3 hours when it first opened and it was the most disappointing ride I have ever been on lol. Best part of this park is the wait times. Especially compared with Canada’s Wonderland. I can’t believe you didn’t stay at the park! Camping is half the fun! Great memories at this park. Thanks for the upload.
Nightmare at Phantom Cave was only there for a few years in the mid 90s but the lines were always super long and slow. Eventually that coaster moved to Great Escape, and has since been removed from there as well.
I loveeeeeed Nightmare at Phantom Cave, for the awesome queue theme alone. As a child, and still to this day, loveeee haunted houses. The theme for the queue was so epic.
@@n8ball058 I waited in line about 45 minutes for NAPC but the line only moved about 10 feet. So I left to go ride something else. So unfortunately I never got to ride it before they removed it a year or two later.
I'm really old and when I was a kid all that was there was the lake and a snack shack. I think you could rent paddleboats there too. When I was in high school I worked there and there was the campground, camp store, game room, bike rental, miniature golf and nothing more. But it was a fun job and I made a bunch of friends among the season campers. After work I'd hang around the campsites with my friends. Great memories!
With it being the only amusement park we have here in buffalo, we kind of gotta love it. It’s definitely not one of my favorites by far. But it’s my hometown so it’ll always hold a special place in my heart. The water park isn’t too much better either.
I first visited this park when it was originally Six Flags, and I had a great time, other than being stuck on the lift of Superman for about 20 minutes. My family had season passes throughout my time in middle school. I maybe went back a time or two in high school, then started working there during college. Honestly, the park has improved so much. I miss The Ranger and UFO, but I realize that maintenance costs were too high for those. I love what they did with Rowdy's Ridge, it used to just be Scrambler and the kiddie coaster, but now Scrambler is in another part of the park and Rowdy's is great (I spent 4 years working in that area, I love it, even if guests get annoyed about height requirements). Overall, I love this park, it will always hold a special place in my heart, but I know that it definitely could be better. If you're planning a trip here, there is a resort off the park (both hotel and campgrounds), but if you're looking for a cheaper option, there is a campground on the other side of Darien and there's a hotel on the other side of Corfu. There are hotels in Batavia too, but it's a bit further of a drive.
Had been to this park several times before and after six flags bought it the first time and before many of the coasters that six flags have put in. Will say that they could do more to do some touches over the years to upgrade the sidewalks/pathways and do more to add in for trees/shade/plants/flowers. Things use to run faster back in the day for getting on rides and ride lines back in the day which has majorly slowed down over the years. Overall will say that the park is a nice set up.
Ive been going since i was a kid. 18 now. Such a great place. Small but packed with lots of fun. Great concert venue and amusement park/water park. My mom has been going since she was a kid too. before the viper was built
I LOVE Darien Lake and always will! I have been visiting since I was 4 (1994). And worked there in 2009-2010 in attractions, rides and waterpark and then again in 2016 as a rides team lead.To clear confusion of the name the actual "Darien Lake State Park" is down the road. Where there is an actual lake. Darien Lake started as a swimming hole. (The pond over by predator) Putting all that aside, your review nailed it! Its not the best... It needs work, but they are getting there! Glad you had a good time! There is nothing like a Darien Lake sunset and ending the day with ignite the night! The laser show is a tradition! I loved it as a kid and now my children look forward to it every summer!
Ah yes, my home park. The park really hasn't changed that much since Six Flags bought it back. The only differences are the signs, dining plans, and season passes. The park itself has not really changed no name changes or rmc predator :( But they did give us a Starflyer so... cool! :)
Ride of Steel feels like it was built specifically for Darien Lake’s terrain and space constraints. Weird that they decided to clone it. It’s almost like if they tried to make a clone of The Beast in a parking lot lol
Last went to Darien Lake like a decade ago and everything you've described is exactly how I remember things being. They have the only Boomerang I've ever liked and the light show was incredible.
I used to work there, and have been a guest for most my life, I have to say most of what u say is very true about the park, most of the rides could use a paint job, maybe some more gardens, something to make it look better, one thing I really hope for is that the Ferris wheel gets some lights on it soon. The prices are a little high for most the people in the area, maybe six flags could lower them a bit. Other than the rides and attractions, I have to say the employees of the park are what makes the experience the best. It's a fair review, glad to see we made the internet, stop by again next season, there is supposed to be a new waterslide built.
It was a privately owned park, then six flags, then privately owned, and now six flags again. They need another full season to retheme the park back. The water park is fun even though it is pretty compact. It is a midrange park that will get better with the corporate money. I would say that in the next 5 years you will probably see some upgrades and some aesthetic touch ups. Fright fest is nicely done. They have some nice scare zones. Get your membership and enjoy
There is definitely the potential for Darien Lake to become one of the top-tier Six Flags parks - all the pieces are there to make it work, we just need to have Six Flags invest the time and money to refurbish some things and smooth over the rough edges of the park operations. Maybe also RMC that Predator - that would make a big splash for sure! :)
Oh well, here come the Predator RMC comments... Predator, in all honesty, doesnt look that bad. I think if they retrack it they have a really solid woodie. Every park needs a woodie in my opinion, especially in America, the country of wooden coasters. Also, due to the RMC craze we are running out of older woodies. I would much rather have a Raptor there then a RMC Hybrid.
IDK. I rode Steel Vengeance at Cedar Point and it was the singularly best coaster I've ever been on. When it was called Mean Streak before the RMC it was nothing special. If Six Flags did the RMC treatment on Predator it would make me want to visit way more often.
I live in the southern Ontario area but have never visited this place. I think it's cool though that I have a Six Flags and Cedar Fair park an equal distance away and the only thing to make it better is for Sea World to buy Marine Land
Harrison Schneider I never went to La Ronde so I can’t judge it 😐 but marine land has an abundance of space and it seems like la ronde needs some. Weird
Not to disparage Darien Lake, but comparing Darien Lake to Canada's Wonderland is like comparing a Chevy to a Cadillac. Darien Lake is a fine park for what it has to offer, but Canada's Wonderland is one of the top-tier theme parks in North America.
I remember Darien Lake when it was a skateboard park. Consider it a "locals" park. The Viper is 40 years old....it was one of the first steel tubular coaster and built in 1982. The Viper is rough because the center line for twists and rolls is based on the car....not the riders head like they are today. Darien Lake was the "party spot" that had a roller coaster. Bringing your own food to cook and things to drink was the thing. Think of it like a tailgate party next to a roller coaster. Go Bills!
This was my home park growing up so I visited it ALOT. I agree the laser light show is by far the best thing at the park, and I love Viper, superman and predator (I remember back when superman wasn't there and also remember when mind eraser fist got put in....it was a sad day lol) I miss a few of the attractions that are no longer there but overall I think the ride experience is better as six flags though some of the park attractions (concerts and some other things; an indoor coaster and a 4d theatre exhibit) where really cool back in the day) along with security, food stands and what not where much better back in the day but I was also a kid then so I might just be remembering what I thought was something super awesome being the main amuesment park I knew (I had gone to disney, hershey, and cedar point as a kid mainy of time as well but it wasn't right in my backyard like darien was)
So this is my home park and I've been going on and off for the last probably 25 plus years and all the things you like about the park are more or less original and most of the things you griped about are six flags 😅.
This is my home park it’s fine but can get old after a while since there haven’t been a ton of new attractions before tantrum next year, hoping for an rmc predator soon now that six flags owns it again
I visited as both Darien Lake and six flags Darien Lake. What's also very nice about the park if your going for concerts at the amphitheater you will have access to the park for that day.
I think i remember hearing that they don't give you access to the park when you go to a concert anymore, unless they started doing it again after Six Flags bought it
I was just there to get the coaster credits. I wish I would’ve stayed longer. I agree, that Predator should be an RMC. I thought it was kind of rough, but I do think the layout is good. Motocoaster was a nice cute surprise. Overall I enjoyed it, but it’s just one rung above America. I hope SF invests a lot of love into it, I hear the land acreage is ginormous! Hopefully they have a bright future. And I do like Superman there much better.
Wow! I hadnt been here since.. 09? I had no idea about the lazer show.. if any iteration of it existed back then. Next time i'm in Rochester Im definitely gonna try to make a day trip out of my time in NY!
I went in 2001 and I remember Superman being amazing and Viper being a very good Arrow looper. Anyone mourning the loss of Vortex should try to get out and ride Viper.
This is my home park, fortunately, or unfortunately. It's better than what a lot of people get. I actually worked there (in the waterpark) for a few summers when I was in high school 10 years ago.
I grew up going to this park because it was only a few hours from my house went there plenty of times, when I started going there they only had viper and predator as their main coasters.
Since Six Flags only got the operating rights back last year, we might just have to have patience for these things to happen. I don't think Six Flags will outright neglect it though - it has all the right pieces to be a top-tier member of the chain, but hasn't had the investments of time and money to upgrade it from "good" to "great" yet.
@@DoswarePictures But I have. Mid-tier Six Flags park in my opinion (Better than La Ronde, Darien Lake, Discovery Kingdom, America, St Louis, New England, and maybe Frontier City.
@@DoswarePictures I just thought it had the charm that most Six Flags parks seem to lack. (Darien Lake, America, and La Ronde lack charm. Discovery Kingdom lacks a cohesive identity. New England lacks proper shading. St Louis lacks a signature ride (Some say Boss, others say Screaming Eagle. Great Escape has a clear signature in Comet). You know what? I would put St Louis equally with Great Escape.
@@DoswarePictures When judging Great Escape not as a thrill park, but a family park, that's why I put it as a mid-tier park, due to its execution of what it is setting out to do. I think it has improved massively over the years, especially with the return of the Storytown theming.
@@DoswarePictures We drove by it. I went to Great Escape for a couple hours. My recommendations: Visit the Storytown Area and the main entrance. SKIP GHOST TOWN
Now that you've ridden both of the Ride of Steel clones, it would be cool to see a review of the one in Darien Lake, or a comparison of the two based on your opinion of the rides. Darien is my "home" park (I live 3 hrs away) so I've grown up riding RoS. Let me tell you that with a full train, mid afternoon and no wind, that ride can give some of the best airtime anywhere, in any row you choose, especially on the last three airtime hills (though in the back row, the last hill isn't as good since the brake run is literally right after it, so you can feel the train slowing down when you're at the top of the hill). There's also something so satisfying about sitting in the front row, speeding on straight track over the water. You can really appreciate it since you're not being tossed around like Skyrush for example (though Skyrush is a much better ride overall, even with the wonky restraints).
There's a... Dining plan??? I'm a New Yorker (not NYC, there is other places in New York :P) and... What? I heard about the acquisition (for the second time) but didn't know they did... That to it! I thought I was there recently!?!? And it was Darien Lake at that time... Yikes I need to go visit sometime to see what's left of my old park!
@@darrylellis5616 Well in good ole Western NY, We do not get a long time span of nice weather like many of the more southern parks lol. Plus, Darien Lake is so small compared to other SIX FLAGS you could ride everything you want to ride in one day. They are in need for MANY updates.
@@n8ball058 I would definitely agree with that. We get similar weather because I am in Maryland. SFDL has potential because it sits on prime real estate. But dam no B&M it's something wrong with that picture.
@@darrylellis5616 No, they used to have two trains on the coasters but the previous owners had financial problems and sold off the second trains. Now the wait times on these coasters are way longer than they need to be, even on moderately slow days.
I love visiting this park. It's the closest to a home park I can claim, and every time I get close enough to see the ride of steel airtime hill it's like a homecoming. I do hope we get more coasters soon though, and that some of the existing ones need a paint job badly (looking at you mind eraser). I feel like predator is a different experience depending where on the train you ride. Back gets airtime, but also feels more sloppy. Middle gets okay airtime and a smoother ride from my pov. Cannot wait to see what they do in regard to new attractions going forward.
@1:13 uhhh what?? The whole idea of Darien Lake is that its a campground with a ton of campsites, RV's and cabins to rent. Can't believe you could miss that....
hey, Taylor, are you thinking about you making a video about the new CEO running the six flags industry I curious to hear an opinion about what could change for the six flags chain good, bad, and in-between.?
I went to this park 2 times, once in between its Six Flags tenures and then again a few months ago. Both times the parking gate employees just waved us in without asking for payment or membership cards. Also, arriving mid day I walked right in with no metal detectors and no lines at all.
i get the lines are slow but there is nothing you can do about it im a regular and its something im used to and bro you have to show up again in 2024 the light show is epic af
I don't know about Darien lake or whatever its called no disrespect but at SFA it's one of the best rides there what's up with the straight track I don't know but still it really gives awesome air time it is a fun ride
Once they get the rights to DC and looney Tunes bc ig they don’t have them quite yet I think Six Flags will pay more attention to it. There’s a lot of potential really for a dark ride (preferably Justice League) in the old Batman Stunt show building. And with Grizzly Run most likely done you could add a roller coaster there but they’ll probably just add that dumb Harley Quinn coaster thing and call it a day
iv been there as both darien lake and six flags darien lake great park i do like canadas wonderland better more rides since youve been to both park could you possibley do a park battle between darien lake and canadas wonderland i was hoping to someday see one of them
@@Steezy_B. My mistake. I was thinking of the Viper, which is the 80s Arrow Looper. The Predator was retracked a few years ago and it's way better than it was, but an RMC of it would do wonders, not only for the Predator, but for the park in general as well.
I really like this park. I have visited twice, when it was Darien Lake and Six Flags Darien Lake. I personally don’t think the park has changed much. It still has that nostalgic feeling. I love the coasters, except for, aHeM.. Mind Eraser.. and Boomerang isn’t too bad. I personally hate Predator with a passion, but the last time I went and rode it was without the re-track. But it was terrible last time I rode it. I would love it to get an RMC. It was the only ride that made me want to hurl. Ride of Steel is truly great, and unpopular opinion, I liked it better than Six Flags New England’s Superman. New England’s had a rattle, and so did Darien Lake’s, but New England’s was so much more noticeable. Also, Darien Lake’s has WAAYYYY better restraints. But this is a great park overall, and I do agree, it is probably somewhere in the middle or a lower tier Six Flags park.
This is my home park which I visit 2-3 times a year. I am hoping that with it being repurchased by Six Flags that they can put a good amount of money in the park. While I would love a RMC conversion of predator or even a raptor clone of Wonder Woman I think the park is missing some thrilling flat rides. Outside of the coaster we have a blast tower, a Larson looper (meh), and a Star flyer but that’s about it. Would mind getting a giant discovery next year. This years big item was a wahoo wave and a remodel of the water park. Hopefully next year we get something a little more flashy.
I agree with this. RMCs are amazing but i would much rather see them make more ground up hybrids like Zadra then convert classic alright woodies. And since there arent much really terrible woodies anymore (most were already converted) now people want decent woodies RMCed. Rides like Bandit (i know everyone hates it but i liked Bandit, enjoyable ride), Roar, Boss (why would anyone want a good CCI RMCed?) and Grizzly. Woodies that arent like amazing but still enjoyable rides if you dont mind the roughness. Enthusiasts are just craving for RMCs. So please, parks, invest in Raptors and ground ups, but keep the good older woodies.
I’d say unique ones like Beast or The Voyage or El Toro don’t need it. Rides like Predator with a pretty generic out-and-back layout though could definitely benefit from some RMC love
They need to retract predator, completely remove mind eraser, add in a justice league dark ride, add in a frisbee, and then maybe an invert in mind eraser's plot but we know six flags is cheap so they'll probably just put in a free spin
2:39 that shot of Ride of Steel and Predator with the water in front is really nice, but is like a bootleg version of the iconic El Toro - Kingda Ka shot with the water in the front lol
Blake Stoudt lmao
Just remember we did it first ;)
Darien Lake did it before both Kingda Ka and El Toro
@@charleyhibschweiler4555 So, El Toro and Kingda Ka were bootleg iconic shots of Darien Lake's. Seems right :)
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When you said “guess what’s next to the SLC” I honestly thought you were gonna say another SLC, but then I remembered, this isn’t SFNE
SFNE has two boomerangs not two SLCs
Valley Railroad 3025 Productions i know, I simply making a joke about the fact that SFNE has 2 vekoma boomerangs and an SLC
Ha
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@@Bobcatflyfish now it's just 1 boomerang 😭 and the SLC is closed for the time being and it's one of the good SLCs
This is my home park and I’m an absolute fangirl but I have to agree with a lot of the complaints. There is A LOT to complain about there.
I would add a fresh new coat of paint to ride of steel, and I would add geysers around the helixes that shoot up as you rush through, and add a tunnel or a airtime hill on the straight track.
Yeah. The blacktop complaint is what I agree about the most. In the summer, its so hot walking around. I literally sweat walking around the park-
@@imimmunetorickrollsandmore8076 they s should at a tunnel that would be great
@@jaxsonzatech7527 True, also make those helixes more intense
This is a nice park. It's my home park so I'll always have a special place for it. However, it could use some new rides, and definitely some new coasters. It's only been Six Flags for 2 years now, so give it time. They're revamping the water park for 2020, which is nice because it's legitimately a very good water park here. After that, we'll see what happens in the years to come.
Tim Horton's.. the best ride at Darien Lake.
No, Moose on the Loose.
Also, there is a Sims video in which one of the characters is called Tim Horton.
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I've visited the park my whole life, I worked there this year infact. It has improven so much in the past 2 years that Premier and Six Flags owned it it's unbelievable.
Also according to guests who took surveys the park is in upper tier Six Flags. Top 3 in the country.
It's pretty good but I'm sorry it's not top 3
@@johnleuenhagen9068 This is just America. Remember that La Ronde isn't on the list.
Better than Great America in Chicago? Discovery Kingdom or Magic Mountain in CA? Better than Great Adventure in NJ or Over Georgia? No. However, it's definitely a decent park for sure that with some TLC could be a great park someday.
It was physically rated above all of those parks overall. I was shocked too but seeing how nice it was this year I wasn't surprised. Every park scored below 9/10
Where did you get your information from? How do you think is park is upper tier anything?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 . So you're own infinite wisdom you think this park is better than SFMM, SFGV, SFFT, SFOT, SFDK just to name a few. So I am just curious to how do you think park is a upper anything?
0:40 that’s a really trippy shot
Beanie Monster i thought it was upside down.
Ikr I was confused
Sky Screamer is the scariest ride in the park. Seriously.
True
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I enjoyed my time here in 2018 but will not be coming back unless they add something good
A one-visit-per year park for me. Not a bad place by any means, but not a place I'd like to go to multiple times in a season either.
@@56jetman i always go multiple times just because its the only amusement in my area so....
@@willow_animates8123 canadas wonderland isnt too far tho only a 3 hour drive
Grew up in the area, and used to go when it was Darien Lake Fun Country. The park is built on land that used to be a lake -- Darien Lake. Six Flags Darien Lake is a rural area, but the proximity to a major city is about the same distance as Kings Dominion to Richmond, VA. But I will agree there aren't many hotel options near the park.
You're going way back. I think it was Darien Lake Fun Country back in the days when Paul Snyder owned it.
"Moose, moose, moose on the loose!" Never gets old, also, I agree that Ride of Steel is so much better at Darien Lake. The straight section and the giant helixes fit when they're over the water. It's almost as if the coaster was specifically designed for the setting at Darien Lake. They really should have used a different layout at SFA.
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I grew up in the Buffalo area. Darien Lake's light show predates both its stints as a six flags. It also has a concert venue run by Live Nation that gets some pretty good acts, and when you buy a concert ticket, the themepark admission comes with.
This is my home park and personally I really like it
It's mine to
It’s mine three!
same here!
@@Reality_a_thing Look at more than just the coaster lineup. The place is beautiful. Multiple lakes, surrounded by woods...the scenery is so beautiful. Also, there are other aspects to the place, such as a big, modern waterpark, good local food options, and a fantastic nightly laser show. It offers many unique aspects, not common in other Six Flags parks.
Noah Wisniewski the line up isn’t even that bad. The coasters are mostly average. The only 2 rides that I even consider bad is Mind Eraser and Predator, which have easy fixes with Mind Eraser getting the new Vekoma vest restraints and Predator can get the Iron horse
every time i see paul polelle my heart skips a beat
that’s my dad
Woah
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darien lake has resort so you don't have to worry about hotels
Haven't been there recently, but memory serves a camping ground as well.
The hotel is expensive but the cost includes a ticket to the park.
There is an Econo Lodge along I-90 which is about 10 minutes north of the park.
Darien Lake is the park I grew up going to, I’m 17 and I’ve probably been going at least once a year sense I was like 5. we’ve been season pass holders for the last 5 years and now we have memberships. The park has gone through many ruff times financially in the last 12 years but I’m very glad it’s still kicking! I don’t like some of the ways that Six Flags runs the park, for example, the rides games and stores close at 9:30pm now when it was 10:00pm for decades. They have been doing the laser show (it starts 10 mins after the rides close) for as long as I can remember. Six Flags did announce that they are remodeling the water park which sounds exciting, but I’m also worried that they might make the water park separate from the rest of the park. Over all this is my childhood theme park and I hope it lasts a long time and keeps getting improved!
I've been going to darien lake for 30 years and I've always loved it. I may be a little biased because I grew up in Buffalo but they've been doing the laser light show since I was a kid, always a great way to end the night.
The whole park scenery reminds me of Rollercoaster Tycoon :D (Came from europe)
As my home park,I am glad that we will be getting rides annually now.
Zehn yes but say goodbye to getting coasters
@@codyfitzgerald290 I think Six Flags can justify putting an RMC Raptor here.
Or, just an I-Box conversion of Predator, but i think a raptor would be more likely.
I don't see why new coasters would be out of the question or even unlikely. I mean, Six Flags re-acquaired the park last year and immediately added the Tantrum, so good things are just beginning.
Six Flags owned the park years ago, and did basically nothing with it. Hopefully they do this time. Nothing more frustrating than any park in any chain not getting yearly rides.
I don’t see why they wouldn’t. The park has been seeing a new coaster about every 10 years. I’m sure Six Flags wouldn’t wait that long, even if it’s seen in the lower tier. This place has RMC Predator/Raptor written all over it.
You need to camp there thats one of the better things about the place. There is hotels and cabins if thats what you want in the park. But its for campers. Then you can go in and out of the park all day anytime and no lines to get in. 🙂
Viper was my first “real” coaster about 30 years ago. As a kid, I remember it being so big. I recently looked at the stats and well....lol.
35 years ago it WAS really big. In 1989 Magnum XL-200 at Cedar Point opened as the first ever 200 ft hyper-coaster. Nowadays the contest is to see who can make a coaster that is bigger, taller, faster, loopier, etc, and the new breed of coasters now dwarf the previously large Arrow coasters of the 80s. Even the Ride of Steel's first hill is 208 feet tall.
The Viper is everybody from Western New York's first rollercoaster
@@steveothebassist First upside-down coaster yes, but I believe my first "adult" coaster was the Jack Rabbit at Seabreeze.
@@johnd5931 Yes, Jack Rabbit!! At the time Quantum Loop existed as well, that was my first upside down experience.. and what a strange one it was. LOL.
I just hope Six Flags enthusiasts don't expect Darien to be as top tier as their other parks. Darien has need new coasters and updates for a very long time. I have been hoping for a Predator remake for YEARS.
@@n8ball058 According to Coasterpedia:"Quantum Loop was purchased by Salitre Magico, an amusement park in Bogota, Colombia. The ride opened there on 7/12/2004 with a new name, "Doble Loop" and continues to operate at Salitre Magico in Bogotá, Colombia."
It's my home park. I used to be obsessed but it got old after visiting it almost 10 times this year
AND NOW I MISS IT... OPEN IT BACK UP!!!
@@mr.rollercoasters right?! Lol did you come back to this video a year later because you miss the park too? I did. Also I don’t remember seeing this video the first time but I found some comments I left a year ago lol
Lol
My dad was in a band that used to play in the park and we used to always stay to see the show. We never went on the rides but it’s like the one thing I remember about going as a kid.
Gotta love Tim Horton’s! Glad you also went to it often in Canada.
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I went here a lot as a kid. The light show was always amazing. I haven’t been there in about 15 years, but it doesn’t look like much as changed. When my mom was a girl you could swim in the lake. I remember there used to be a ride in doors, waited 3 hours when it first opened and it was the most disappointing ride I have ever been on lol.
Best part of this park is the wait times. Especially compared with Canada’s Wonderland.
I can’t believe you didn’t stay at the park! Camping is half the fun! Great memories at this park. Thanks for the upload.
Nightmare at Phantom Cave was only there for a few years in the mid 90s but the lines were always super long and slow. Eventually that coaster moved to Great Escape, and has since been removed from there as well.
John D yess that was the name!! Then There was a Batman show
I loveeeeeed Nightmare at Phantom Cave, for the awesome queue theme alone. As a child, and still to this day, loveeee haunted houses. The theme for the queue was so epic.
@@n8ball058 I waited in line about 45 minutes for NAPC but the line only moved about 10 feet. So I left to go ride something else. So unfortunately I never got to ride it before they removed it a year or two later.
I'm really old and when I was a kid all that was there was the lake and a snack shack. I think you could rent paddleboats there too. When I was in high school I worked there and there was the campground, camp store, game room, bike rental, miniature golf and nothing more. But it was a fun job and I made a bunch of friends among the season campers. After work I'd hang around the campsites with my friends. Great memories!
With it being the only amusement park we have here in buffalo, we kind of gotta love it. It’s definitely not one of my favorites by far. But it’s my hometown so it’ll always hold a special place in my heart. The water park isn’t too much better either.
I first visited this park when it was originally Six Flags, and I had a great time, other than being stuck on the lift of Superman for about 20 minutes. My family had season passes throughout my time in middle school. I maybe went back a time or two in high school, then started working there during college.
Honestly, the park has improved so much. I miss The Ranger and UFO, but I realize that maintenance costs were too high for those. I love what they did with Rowdy's Ridge, it used to just be Scrambler and the kiddie coaster, but now Scrambler is in another part of the park and Rowdy's is great (I spent 4 years working in that area, I love it, even if guests get annoyed about height requirements). Overall, I love this park, it will always hold a special place in my heart, but I know that it definitely could be better.
If you're planning a trip here, there is a resort off the park (both hotel and campgrounds), but if you're looking for a cheaper option, there is a campground on the other side of Darien and there's a hotel on the other side of Corfu. There are hotels in Batavia too, but it's a bit further of a drive.
This is my home park I have been there when six flags first claimed Darien lake and when they claimed it for a second time
Had been to this park several times before and after six flags bought it the first time and before many of the coasters that six flags have put in. Will say that they could do more to do some touches over the years to upgrade the sidewalks/pathways and do more to add in for trees/shade/plants/flowers. Things use to run faster back in the day for getting on rides and ride lines back in the day which has majorly slowed down over the years. Overall will say that the park is a nice set up.
Ive been going since i was a kid. 18 now. Such a great place. Small but packed with lots of fun. Great concert venue and amusement park/water park. My mom has been going since she was a kid too. before the viper was built
This was my homepark for 17 years. It was pretty much the same while it was Darien except for the Star Flyer and Gerstlauer.
I agree could use some curb appeal been there many time during and before six flags ownership
I LOVE Darien Lake and always will! I have been visiting since I was 4 (1994). And worked there in 2009-2010 in attractions, rides and waterpark and then again in 2016 as a rides team lead.To clear confusion of the name the actual "Darien Lake State Park" is down the road. Where there is an actual lake. Darien Lake started as a swimming hole. (The pond over by predator) Putting all that aside, your review nailed it! Its not the best... It needs work, but they are getting there! Glad you had a good time! There is nothing like a Darien Lake sunset and ending the day with ignite the night! The laser show is a tradition! I loved it as a kid and now my children look forward to it every summer!
Ah yes, my home park. The park really hasn't changed that much since Six Flags bought it back. The only differences are the signs, dining plans, and season passes. The park itself has not really changed no name changes or rmc predator :( But they did give us a Starflyer so... cool! :)
I love having this as a home park idc what ANYONE says
Ride of Steel feels like it was built specifically for Darien Lake’s terrain and space constraints. Weird that they decided to clone it. It’s almost like if they tried to make a clone of The Beast in a parking lot lol
Last went to Darien Lake like a decade ago and everything you've described is exactly how I remember things being. They have the only Boomerang I've ever liked and the light show was incredible.
I used to work there, and have been a guest for most my life, I have to say most of what u say is very true about the park, most of the rides could use a paint job, maybe some more gardens, something to make it look better, one thing I really hope for is that the Ferris wheel gets some lights on it soon.
The prices are a little high for most the people in the area, maybe six flags could lower them a bit.
Other than the rides and attractions, I have to say the employees of the park are what makes the experience the best.
It's a fair review, glad to see we made the internet, stop by again next season, there is supposed to be a new waterslide built.
My home park. Most memorable moment for me was when the band The Used cut in front of me and my sister to ride Viper in 2003.
I miss six flags... never too old to go back.
I think Darien lake is very nice park. Predator is right now being rumored to be getting the RMC treatment.
It was a privately owned park, then six flags, then privately owned, and now six flags again. They need another full season to retheme the park back. The water park is fun even though it is pretty compact. It is a midrange park that will get better with the corporate money. I would say that in the next 5 years you will probably see some upgrades and some aesthetic touch ups. Fright fest is nicely done. They have some nice scare zones. Get your membership and enjoy
There is definitely the potential for Darien Lake to become one of the top-tier Six Flags parks - all the pieces are there to make it work, we just need to have Six Flags invest the time and money to refurbish some things and smooth over the rough edges of the park operations. Maybe also RMC that Predator - that would make a big splash for sure! :)
My home park ✌️
honestly ..... Six Flags just needs to invest in the park again. Give it some TLC. When they did, people showed up.
I’m from Canada and stayed in a hotel in Erie PA, after visiting Waldameer we visited Darien Lake the next morning
Oh well, here come the Predator RMC comments...
Predator, in all honesty, doesnt look that bad. I think if they retrack it they have a really solid woodie. Every park needs a woodie in my opinion, especially in America, the country of wooden coasters.
Also, due to the RMC craze we are running out of older woodies. I would much rather have a Raptor there then a RMC Hybrid.
Why not both? Honestly, I'd rather see the mind eraser go and turn into a raptor. That ride is much worse than the Predator.
They have been retracking a bit the past few years! I personally love Predator!
IDK. I rode Steel Vengeance at Cedar Point and it was the singularly best coaster I've ever been on. When it was called Mean Streak before the RMC it was nothing special. If Six Flags did the RMC treatment on Predator it would make me want to visit way more often.
It’s in western New York so blacktop is almost necessary for the snow because the concrete will just crack and cost so much to replace
This has been my home park for many years. One of my favorite places.
wait i never knew Six Flags Darrien lake existed
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Predator got retracked and is better than it was. I can not imagine it being RMC'd. That would be epic for this area!
Darien lake was my childhood and I live it there.
I live in the southern Ontario area but have never visited this place. I think it's cool though that I have a Six Flags and Cedar Fair park an equal distance away and the only thing to make it better is for Sea World to buy Marine Land
Lessardo that would be amazing if sea world did. Marine land has so much wasted potential.
@@Funaabas Which park is better, La Ronde or Marineland?
Harrison Schneider I never went to La Ronde so I can’t judge it 😐 but marine land has an abundance of space and it seems like la ronde needs some. Weird
Not to disparage Darien Lake, but comparing Darien Lake to Canada's Wonderland is like comparing a Chevy to a Cadillac. Darien Lake is a fine park for what it has to offer, but Canada's Wonderland is one of the top-tier theme parks in North America.
I remember Darien Lake when it was a skateboard park. Consider it a "locals" park. The Viper is 40 years old....it was one of the first steel tubular coaster and built in 1982. The Viper is rough because the center line for twists and rolls is based on the car....not the riders head like they are today. Darien Lake was the "party spot" that had a roller coaster. Bringing your own food to cook and things to drink was the thing. Think of it like a tailgate party next to a roller coaster. Go Bills!
This was my home park growing up so I visited it ALOT. I agree the laser light show is by far the best thing at the park, and I love Viper, superman and predator (I remember back when superman wasn't there and also remember when mind eraser fist got put in....it was a sad day lol) I miss a few of the attractions that are no longer there but overall I think the ride experience is better as six flags though some of the park attractions (concerts and some other things; an indoor coaster and a 4d theatre exhibit) where really cool back in the day) along with security, food stands and what not where much better back in the day but I was also a kid then so I might just be remembering what I thought was something super awesome being the main amuesment park I knew (I had gone to disney, hershey, and cedar point as a kid mainy of time as well but it wasn't right in my backyard like darien was)
I live right in the suburbs of Buffalo, NY in Tonawanda, NY and it is around half an hour away from my home
There's actually plenty of hotels in the area. They're just not right next to it.
My old hometown park and I love and miss it. Friendly staff and great rides and food.
So this is my home park and I've been going on and off for the last probably 25 plus years and all the things you like about the park are more or less original and most of the things you griped about are six flags 😅.
This is my home park it’s fine but can get old after a while since there haven’t been a ton of new attractions before tantrum next year, hoping for an rmc predator soon now that six flags owns it again
I visited as both Darien Lake and six flags Darien Lake. What's also very nice about the park if your going for concerts at the amphitheater you will have access to the park for that day.
I think i remember hearing that they don't give you access to the park when you go to a concert anymore, unless they started doing it again after Six Flags bought it
@@steveothebassist they still do it. I saw Kiss back in August and my ticket worked to get into the park.
I love how blacktop looks
My favorite ride was the nightmare it was a indoor roller coaster by viper I missed it
I live near buffalo, i go to the park all the time, not so much anymore though, because the prices shot up when it became six flags.
Great cinematography as usual! 👍🏼
we lived close to here growing up so i would go there every year and we would go to the light show every night, they even change it each year
I was just there to get the coaster credits. I wish I would’ve stayed longer. I agree, that Predator should be an RMC. I thought it was kind of rough, but I do think the layout is good. Motocoaster was a nice cute surprise. Overall I enjoyed it, but it’s just one rung above America. I hope SF invests a lot of love into it, I hear the land acreage is ginormous! Hopefully they have a bright future. And I do like Superman there much better.
It's actually the 2nd biggest six flags park
Charley Hibschweiler I believe it! ALL THAT ROOM!
Wow! I hadnt been here since.. 09? I had no idea about the lazer show.. if any iteration of it existed back then. Next time i'm in Rochester Im definitely gonna try to make a day trip out of my time in NY!
I went in 2001 and I remember Superman being amazing and Viper being a very good Arrow looper. Anyone mourning the loss of Vortex should try to get out and ride Viper.
2:37 the budget shot of El Toro and Kingda Ka
Hmmm, wasn't it stated that we did it first? :P
This is my home park, fortunately, or unfortunately. It's better than what a lot of people get. I actually worked there (in the waterpark) for a few summers when I was in high school 10 years ago.
I grew up going to this park because it was only a few hours from my house went there plenty of times, when I started going there they only had viper and predator as their main coasters.
What a great shot of the predator at 2:37!
my home park! i love this park but they definitely need to RMC the predator and add more theming to the park
Since Six Flags only got the operating rights back last year, we might just have to have patience for these things to happen. I don't think Six Flags will outright neglect it though - it has all the right pieces to be a top-tier member of the chain, but hasn't had the investments of time and money to upgrade it from "good" to "great" yet.
Waiting for the Six Flags Great Escape review. Great review, I want to check this place out one day
@@DoswarePictures But I have. Mid-tier Six Flags park in my opinion (Better than La Ronde, Darien Lake, Discovery Kingdom, America, St Louis, New England, and maybe Frontier City.
@@DoswarePictures I've only been to Great America and Great Escape.
@@DoswarePictures I just thought it had the charm that most Six Flags parks seem to lack. (Darien Lake, America, and La Ronde lack charm. Discovery Kingdom lacks a cohesive identity. New England lacks proper shading. St Louis lacks a signature ride (Some say Boss, others say Screaming Eagle. Great Escape has a clear signature in Comet). You know what? I would put St Louis equally with Great Escape.
@@DoswarePictures When judging Great Escape not as a thrill park, but a family park, that's why I put it as a mid-tier park, due to its execution of what it is setting out to do. I think it has improved massively over the years, especially with the return of the Storytown theming.
@@DoswarePictures We drove by it. I went to Great Escape for a couple hours. My recommendations: Visit the Storytown Area and the main entrance. SKIP GHOST TOWN
They do the laser light show every single night as well(outside of weather conditions), so no matter when you go you can see it
Now that you've ridden both of the Ride of Steel clones, it would be cool to see a review of the one in Darien Lake, or a comparison of the two based on your opinion of the rides. Darien is my "home" park (I live 3 hrs away) so I've grown up riding RoS. Let me tell you that with a full train, mid afternoon and no wind, that ride can give some of the best airtime anywhere, in any row you choose, especially on the last three airtime hills (though in the back row, the last hill isn't as good since the brake run is literally right after it, so you can feel the train slowing down when you're at the top of the hill). There's also something so satisfying about sitting in the front row, speeding on straight track over the water. You can really appreciate it since you're not being tossed around like Skyrush for example (though Skyrush is a much better ride overall, even with the wonky restraints).
There's a... Dining plan???
I'm a New Yorker (not NYC, there is other places in New York :P) and... What? I heard about the acquisition (for the second time) but didn't know they did... That to it! I thought I was there recently!?!?
And it was Darien Lake at that time... Yikes I need to go visit sometime to see what's left of my old park!
Six Flags calls their dining plan a Season Dining Pass - you can either buy one separately or add it to a typical Season Pass when you order it.
@@gordontaylor2815 ah, good to know!
With the exception of Tantrum; all the coasters at DL run one train.
Could It be that the reason why they only run train is because they don't get a lot of guess.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
oof, one train ops SUCK
@@darrylellis5616 Well in good ole Western NY, We do not get a long time span of nice weather like many of the more southern parks lol. Plus, Darien Lake is so small compared to other SIX FLAGS you could ride everything you want to ride in one day. They are in need for MANY updates.
@@n8ball058 I would definitely agree with that. We get similar weather because I am in Maryland. SFDL has potential because it sits on prime real estate. But dam no B&M it's something wrong with that picture.
@@darrylellis5616 No, they used to have two trains on the coasters but the previous owners had financial problems and sold off the second trains. Now the wait times on these coasters are way longer than they need to be, even on moderately slow days.
I love visiting this park. It's the closest to a home park I can claim, and every time I get close enough to see the ride of steel airtime hill it's like a homecoming.
I do hope we get more coasters soon though, and that some of the existing ones need a paint job badly (looking at you mind eraser). I feel like predator is a different experience depending where on the train you ride. Back gets airtime, but also feels more sloppy. Middle gets okay airtime and a smoother ride from my pov. Cannot wait to see what they do in regard to new attractions going forward.
@1:13 uhhh what?? The whole idea of Darien Lake is that its a campground with a ton of campsites, RV's and cabins to rent. Can't believe you could miss that....
I guess this would make it the second Six Flags park with a end-of-night spectacular.
hey, Taylor, are you thinking about you making a video about the new CEO running the six flags industry I curious to hear an opinion about what could change for the six flags chain good, bad, and in-between.?
I went to this park 2 times, once in between its Six Flags tenures and then again a few months ago. Both times the parking gate employees just waved us in without asking for payment or membership cards. Also, arriving mid day I walked right in with no metal detectors and no lines at all.
i get the lines are slow but there is nothing you can do about it im a regular and its something im used to
and bro you have to show up again in 2024 the light show is epic af
My home park, can’t wait for Summer 2020🤤
Basically the same as it was before six flags took over, the different membership options are nice and fright fest was a good addition.
I don't know about Darien lake or whatever its called no disrespect but at SFA it's one of the best rides there what's up with the straight track I don't know but still it really gives awesome air time it is a fun ride
Once they get the rights to DC and looney Tunes bc ig they don’t have them quite yet I think Six Flags will pay more attention to it. There’s a lot of potential really for a dark ride (preferably Justice League) in the old Batman Stunt show building. And with Grizzly Run most likely done you could add a roller coaster there but they’ll probably just add that dumb Harley Quinn coaster thing and call it a day
iv been there as both darien lake and six flags darien lake great park i do like canadas wonderland better more rides since youve been to both park could you possibley do a park battle between darien lake and canadas wonderland i was hoping to someday see one of them
last season war horrendous, hopefully this season is better
Park is alright, I found predator really rough even though it has gotten retracked on some of the rough bits
It's actually better and smoother than most 80s Arrow Loopers.
@@johnd5931 You may be right but that's the riding experience I've had on it
@@Steezy_B. My mistake. I was thinking of the Viper, which is the 80s Arrow Looper.
The Predator was retracked a few years ago and it's way better than it was, but an RMC of it would do wonders, not only for the Predator, but for the park in general as well.
You got there on a less favorable day in my opinion, Darien Lake is usually better when the sky doesn’t turn pink at sunset.
I really like this park. I have visited twice, when it was Darien Lake and Six Flags Darien Lake. I personally don’t think the park has changed much. It still has that nostalgic feeling. I love the coasters, except for, aHeM.. Mind Eraser.. and Boomerang isn’t too bad. I personally hate Predator with a passion, but the last time I went and rode it was without the re-track. But it was terrible last time I rode it. I would love it to get an RMC. It was the only ride that made me want to hurl. Ride of Steel is truly great, and unpopular opinion, I liked it better than Six Flags New England’s Superman. New England’s had a rattle, and so did Darien Lake’s, but New England’s was so much more noticeable. Also, Darien Lake’s has WAAYYYY better restraints. But this is a great park overall, and I do agree, it is probably somewhere in the middle or a lower tier Six Flags park.
La Ronde vibes during this video. And when you said bodies of water in the park I got Diamond Heights from RCT vibes. Looks like and interesting park.
0:34 Is that where SFOG’s Wheelie went after it closed for their Starflyer?!?!?
This is my home park which I visit 2-3 times a year. I am hoping that with it being repurchased by Six Flags that they can put a good amount of money in the park. While I would love a RMC conversion of predator or even a raptor clone of Wonder Woman I think the park is missing some thrilling flat rides. Outside of the coaster we have a blast tower, a Larson looper (meh), and a Star flyer but that’s about it. Would mind getting a giant discovery next year. This years big item was a wahoo wave and a remodel of the water park. Hopefully next year we get something a little more flashy.
This is my home park witch I love and I understand some of the flaws there is with it
RMC fanboy wants every wooden coaster to be a hybrid. Wooden coasters rule and not every semi rough wood coaster should have RMC treatment
I agree with this. RMCs are amazing but i would much rather see them make more ground up hybrids like Zadra then convert classic alright woodies. And since there arent much really terrible woodies anymore (most were already converted) now people want decent woodies RMCed. Rides like Bandit (i know everyone hates it but i liked Bandit, enjoyable ride), Roar, Boss (why would anyone want a good CCI RMCed?) and Grizzly. Woodies that arent like amazing but still enjoyable rides if you dont mind the roughness.
Enthusiasts are just craving for RMCs. So please, parks, invest in Raptors and ground ups, but keep the good older woodies.
I’d say unique ones like Beast or The Voyage or El Toro don’t need it. Rides like Predator with a pretty generic out-and-back layout though could definitely benefit from some RMC love
They need to retract predator, completely remove mind eraser, add in a justice league dark ride, add in a frisbee, and then maybe an invert in mind eraser's plot but we know six flags is cheap so they'll probably just put in a free spin
There's actually a campsite that six flags owns 2 minutes away it's camper and or tent friendly
FINALLY!!!! YOU DID MY HOME PARK REVIEW!!!