The S wrench you were using was designed that way for fitting into tight places on locomotives, back when steam and even early diesel engines were used. Auto manufacturers, Henry Ford fallowed suit in the design for the same reasons. Pretty Cool wrench you have Mike!
Cool wrench I unofficially call that a Ford specialty tool 👍🏼, Moved in to my house thirty years ago I found the same wrench you have on the property along with a bunch of Ford stuff so I always referred to the S wrench as an early Ford specialty tool , I dig when I get to use it👍🏼. Cool video 😎
I bought a 2002 FLSTC last summer and a wrecked 2001 Road King in Dec. I was looking for an EVO when I got these two twin cams. I am an old dude that has a lot of experience with fatheads pans and shoveheads and I do not like these new Harley's they are designed so you can't do your own work. Shovel motors are basically a garden tractor I like my 72 FLH. I think I will sell this Road King as soon as I got it back on the road and maybe my Soft tail too and hunt down a EVO or another good FLH Shovelhead. Great video thanks.
Hi Mike: I used to put the Crank-shaft in the fridge for twenty minutes. Then warm the bearings so that they get bigger than the crank-shaft This gets rid of the interference fit, lower the new bearing onto the shaft, then in about two minutes it cools down and grips the shaft again. Well I am nearer 70 than 60, so we had to make do and mend in the old days. Take care now.
Don't know why per say but I really dig those EVO Motors! Used to have a Rottweiler years ago that passed away, his name was Evo!👍 Great video Brother!
Thank you. There are several reasons to like Evos. Let's see... they're dependable, they're easy to hop up, not as expensive as other motors. Parts availability is good. For a lot of guys, it was their first Harley. All of the different Harley motors are a different experience from each other. They all have their place.
You performed the vintage-traditional method of building a H-D motor. My respects and peaceful salutes Mike, from San Diego California. Happy New Year!
Hey Mike. New to the channel. Really liking the videos. Very informative. Ive got a 98 Fatboy, and I love my Evo motor! She is a true road warrior. I have a lot more confidence tearing into it after watching you do your thing. Good stuff!
Sir, your channel is great. I will definitely stay tuned. You sound as cool as you look. You're a lot less grumpy around Harleys than Tatro at Tatro Machine. I don't think he sleeps, though. Best regards from a DOD civilian in South Korea riding harleys all over the peninsula.
I believe you are right. I really like tatro but some of his practices i dont agree with. He is very talented guy and his insistence that people learn to repair their own bikes is something I can dig.
Love all the videos, Mike. I’ve been going through them they and having a fun time. I’m glad to see guys like you still out there, very inspiring. Keep the shiny side up! -Mike
the reason why I love working on Harley engines is because I look at them as a piece of art these engines are or has been made for how long and only been through what 5 or 6 changes or designs sense they were produced love your videos reminds me of me and my good friend that started me out on rebuilding them may he RIP he showed me a few simple tricks before he lost his life a great man thank you for your videos
And thank you for watching. I appreciate your point of view. Of course I do. It's one we share. And I sure miss my friend I worked with for so many years. He taught me what I call, "The appproach."
Thanks for your amazing content. I’m sure you make your brothers proud. Could you do a video on checking specs on Evo flywheels? I’m about to do my first Evo rebuild and the only part that makes me nervous is the case and measuring the specs on the flywheel. Much respect. You seem like the Bob Ross of motor building. Thanks again.
Really appreciate your videos Mike, have been watching for some time now. I'm currently in process of rebuilding my 67 shovelhead engine and it's helpful watching someone else going thru the same motions. Although you don't seem to stop and stare at it as much as I do :-) Keep on keeping on.
I don't know if anybody has said this, and it's meant strictly as a massive compliment, but you Mike are the Bob Ross of Harley wrenching. "Happy bearings and a little dash of assembly lube. Over here just a special tool and lapping to a lught grey, there now isn't that nice". 😁
@@pacificmike9501 I disagree entirely, your calm and thought out delivery of accurate and complete information is top tier. I have referenced your videos countless times and will continue to seek answers and apply them on my own projects. Gearing up to do a 96 evo bottom end that was ridin by a friend/ mentor until the mains gave up. He gave it to me and that means it must be rebuilt and breathe fire again. Thank you for your time,knowledge and your excellent way of sharing both.
Hi Mike. Such awesome videos my brother. A joy to watch a master. I was watching you use that big wrench and watched it drop off the nut because it’s so heavy I’m sure. An idea came up. If you added a large enough washer to that contraction directly below the nut, the wrench could rest on it and won’t drop and make it that much easier to turn to tighten or loosen. Just a thought. Keep up your amazing videos. Sometimes I turn you on as background noise when I’m doing chores around the house. Lol.
Thank You. If you work your hands hard enough and long enough, the pain becomes routine. You hardly think about it. Of all the things I've been hard on, I think my hands got the biggest workout, now wornout.
To install the bearing on the shaft I heat the bearing up in a pot of oil that is heated till it just begins to smoke ,and then slide it on the shaft . Not have a hammer and a length of pipe in case the bearing need a little persuasion to find its seat . No special tools needed.
I've spent a lot of time wishing I had fancy tools. I really enjoy them. I bought them a little at a time. I still have a lot of tools my friends and I have made over the years. Whatever works the best is the best.
Well Mike; i don't think you look old, just a bit weathered my be like me, due to enjoying our self's too much, with open faced helmets on those addictive, pesky old Motorcycles. No: that's not 'GREY hair', its CHROMING, adds a bit of CLASS. Another thing I have found is, we sometimes forget what we are doing for a moment, but it's not our memory that's at fault. It's the recall. It pleases me that you are passing on this good old wisdom to the younger ones. Thank you.
Well, thank you. Until 1991, this was a free state, no helmets. But, thanks for the kind words. I do like the idea of "Chroming Up" my appearance. And some of those "young guys" really are worth the effort. If they could all have old bikes and feel how cool they really are, I think this would be a better world. I'm counting on them. We're lucky to get old, you know. Lets continue it for quite a while.
Just viewed your video the one thought that came across was if that is indeed 1 7/8, wouldn't the tranny socket work great there. I believe it is also 1 7/8 and is extended reach. Of course you may just have wanted to show off your brother's wrench. I also noticed you put the nut on one way and then a different way for the outboard bearing. I would have put the nut on the second way with the shoulder up against the thrust bearing of the tool. Good work my friend, living the dream.
@@pacificmike9501 Just checked my bearing installation tool after I made those comments and to see why I don't use my tranny socket and what I found out was my tool takes a 1 7/16 socket or wrench to turn the nut. Thank you.
Did you have the flywheel serviced? I'm wondering if you replaced the pin and the connecting rod bearings and did you have it balanced/trued? Trying to learn......Love your video and presentation style.
i saw a video from tatro machine checking the flywheel alignment before installing those cases... it was a great video on how to check those flywheels and how to hit them back into alignment with a hammer. now they sell those tool fixtures for this process .. it looked easy to do this process and do you ever do this type of alignment ??? i would think you would do this procedure before installing those cases... i worked in a Aerospace machine shop for 9 years and i am a skilled trades certified Aerospace machinist so using machinist tools for inspecting is what i do... i would think you would at least check flywheel alignment at least teach us your tips to check flywheel alignment for other projects we will end up doing for us or our friends.....
I don't rebuild flywheel assemblies very often. It's a lot easier to demonstrate things you do often. We'll show it at some point. This was a "known good" assembly. So, after checking it for runout on my truing stand, I put it in. It was well within spec.
Hi Mike again: No your sir name is not again! Sorry for the pun. An old trick I used to do when fitting big-ends and the misses used to get all upset. Fancy putting crank cases in the oven, not only that; she thought i was extracting the urine, when she found the rollers in the fridge! I made the mistake of saying; they where very clean! Well needles to say, the bearings just slid right into place, Proper Job.
Fun stuff. I bought an electric oven from a guy who was remodeling a kitchen. I gave him $30.00 for it. I put it on a dolly, attached the right plug to it (220) and it is my shop unit. I cook painted parts and expand parts that require heat expansion. Works for me.
Just wondering what the dimensions are of that flywheel rebuilding jig your friend made. Thinking about making one. Also couldn't tell what he used for the pins?
The pins are just hardened studs. You want a loose fit for the flywheels so yoy don't stick to the studs. Mesure between the holes for the studs for the flywheels you'll be working with. There are diferent flywheels. This will also affect how they sit on the fixture.
Looks like a Steam fitter crescent wrench. Also used them on oil rigs out on the ocean. I haven't a clue why they have an offset handle. I've been a plumber for some 40 odd years. The offset pipe wrench has always been an easier wrench to operate. Did I miss you putting together the rods & flywheels? I'd like to see that part if you have it on video?
Cool, and thank you. I've liked it for years. And my brother-in-law passed a while back and I miss him. The wrench reminds me of the goodies he used to find and bring to me.
@@pacificmike9501 at our age. You don't find those little gems anymore or should I say that you don't find them as often. Not like we use to find them.
No, I didn't do. This is a flywheel assembly out of another motor. When I do one, we'll show it. I don't do it often enough to be real comfortable showing it. But, we will.
We still find an occasional gem. I bought my stuff a long time ago. And I hung onto it. The goal was to some day retire and play with my toys. I did and I do.
hey Mike Great video. I might have missed you saying anything about this but thought id ask anyway. was that crank new, with new rod bearings, or rebuilt with new bearings and trued up?
Hey Mike a little off topic, I have a leaking Shovelhead rocker box, all the way in the back on rear head, in the low spot where they usually leak. I've done my very best to clean up the gasket surfaces without gouging them up but I found a few imperfections undoubtedly from someone using a hard metal tool on aluminum from it's past life, although not horrible but not perfect either which brings me to my question. What type of sealer would you use in conjunction with the gasket, and what gasket would you recommend to use with a sealer that might fill in the imperfections. 3 bond 1184? Of course I'm concerned about anything that might break off and get into one of those oil drain holes and clog up the works. Thanks in advance for any wisdom you might share. MLLH&R
Well, without looking at the parts, I can only speculate. However, I think I've seen quite a combination of rocker box leaks on Shovelheads. I've even milled the surfaces. Be careful! At that point, it better be microscopic. I blasted one of my own heads once, and opened up a casting flaw in it. I used to fill that flaw with high temp silicone until I finally had a friend weld it up and machine it. First, realize, anything that is leaking at a low point is usually leaking from a higher point, and, it ran down there. Thicker rocker box gaskets, good sealant of your choice. Torque according to your service manual. A little "ultra grey" sometimes will do the trick.
Do you ever freeze the flywheel assy and heat the bearing so it would just slide together. A magnetic bearing heater might be handy. Good show Mike thanks, Bo. Oh yea, dropped that flywheel assy on your finger didn't say a cuss word. You da man!!!
hey mike! im building an evo stroker and an watching your videos as guidance. I've watched both the evo and the stroker playlists and dont see a video that shows the case grinding to compensate for the offset nut clearance. Can you recommend a video that shows this process? thank you sir for your time!
I actually built that stroker a long time ago and just recently did all of the topend. "Clearancing" the cases for strokers is best outlined by S&S in their own catalog, which you can find online. Go to "sscycle.com."
I have a question I need to change the the gaskets on the jugs to the base not sure just what you call them. My question is when I remove them from the piston when going back will I have to hone and re ring them or can I remove them put new gaskets on and just put them back
Sounds like an Evolution motor. Answer to first question: They are referred to as "base gaskets." Second answer: What you could get away with and what you should do are two different things. If you're not comfortable with all of it, get help with what you don't. Honing the cylinders is a simple operation and installing new rings is not difficult. But, you need to adhere to all of the rules and specifications spelled out in your service manual. End gaps must be checked and set as needed. You might have a shop prep your parts for you and do the assembly work yourself. Find a competent shop..
Hello mike. Question on bearings with the engine rebuild,do you purchase the bearings from the dealer or do you match up part numbers when you remove them from the case to shop at bearing supply shops
Good morning Mike, I’ve watched you for a few months now, and you’re very informative . I recently subscribed and I will continue watching because I have a 1997 Fat Boy which has a worn cam bearing. Since I will need to break the engine down and look for shavings, I want to completely break the engine down and upgrade to reliable parts , and add horse power. I’ve order d a service manual and hopefully I will become successful with the upgrade . Rebuilding engines throughout my life is different than rebuilding a Harley engine. My question is, what advise you have for me?
Take it slow. You don't know what you'll need until you're in there. The most different parts to a Harley engine, are the flywheel assembly and the oiling system. My friend Jim's engine is pretty well covered in there as far as upgrades are concerned. There is quite a large series on it in the playlist section. Go to our UA-cam Homepage.
Hey Mike ! First of all thank you for your videos, I'm currently rebuilding my 90 EVO engine. I just wanted to know where did you find the tool you used to press the bearing on the crankshaft ? Thanks in advance. Greetings from Switzerland
Pacific mike I’m wondering about the pinion shaft bearing race. I’m in the process of putting my whole lower end assembly together and while I was pressing the race in, with a 20 ton press it does not want to go and now I have scored my case. Is it possible there are different sized races or did I get a garbage part from Jim’s
Hey MR Mike have you ever tried to set the bearing on a incandescent light bulb while setting up your rig ? the bearing gets warm but not to warm and it expands will drop right into place and when it cools the bearing will be tight if you have a reason for not doing it that way I would love to know what that is great videos thanks much
@@pacificmike9501 the timken bearings I used to replace bearings on laundry equipment and we would place the new timken bearings on a incandescent light bulb while we removed the old one by then they would be warmed up expanded and slide right on and in place
@@pacificmike9501 Sorry, I cant differ between left and right :), of course it is on the left side. my question is when I see all people using special tools to seat the bearings, and I can push it on by hand, it indicates something is wrong?
Hey Mike. Love the videos. Just pulled top end on my 91 heritage. Everything is in spec and it has 87,000kms on motor. Is there a way to see if i need to split bottom end with out splitting cases ? I tried your method of pushing connecting rod to side and tapped with mallet. It checked out. Any info would help. Thanks again
You got it. You did it. That's all there is without tearing a completely good motor apart for nothing. I assume the bores are still good in that Evo. I'd do a nice ball hone on the bores. Fit a new set of piston rings (as per proper specifications). A real sweet job of hand lapping those valves and a new set of valve seals and umbrella valves and proper torqueing as per either Harley Davidson or the manufacturer of the head gaskets and you're good to go for a long time. Wait! While the top end is off, inspect everything in the cam chest. If they haven't already been replaced, you should consider the valve lifters and the cam bearing.
What I showed is what I know and do. I don't quite understand what you're trying to do. You draw the flywheel assembly into the Timken bearing rather than press and risk distorting the assembly out of true. I hope that answers the question.
So how do you prevent scissoring the crank when you install it like that? I made a crankshaft install tool also, but mine holds the flywheel that's on the same side as the Timken bearing so when you prevent the crank from spinning during the install there's no chance of scissoring the crank.
I'm there. Don't want to be back very soon. The bearings are relatively inexpensive compared to your time. Motor studs should be inspected. If they look great, they are.
I think it's time to buy a parts manual. When you have difficulty, I''ll try to help. But, I won't do your work for you. If you can operate a computer, you can get part numbers online.
@@pacificmike9501 I have a parts manual. Just thought you might have them handy or recommend a different brand of bearing that could be better. Dont have to be a dick. I can do my own work. You know what they say when you assume.
Okay. I figured out what you meant by watching the video. It is a Jim's Machine Timken Installer. It can be ordered from any of the large aftermarket suppliers. Part Number 97225-55-1 (That is the Jim's number).
How do you know that the spacer between the bearings was the correct size, you never showed checking the play between them? And don't try and tell me that was a matched set, there is no way to match the bearings, and the spacer, without having the cases.
Wrong. The bearings races and spacers come as a matched set. Then, you give it a final check for endplay. The races stop when they touch the spacer. The first Timken goes onto the shaft, all the way. Then the inner spacer goes onto the shaft. the other spacer is between the races. Don't tell me they're not matched. You can get all the components and make up your own set. You can measure and fit to your heart's content. Some do. Or, you buy a matched set and install it (never leave anything to chance. Measure the endplay).
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@@pacificmike9501 that would be funny if i was the one who mailed that to you mike. God is wonderful how he works at times. Us Harley guys use to need each other to keep them running. my evo changed that. we left them inspired, and we rode hard. Man oh man we had the fun did we not. no reply needed friend.
So nice to see a bike/car you tube post from a gentleman with years of experience who talks sensibly and is not a show off.
Thank You. We're all just having a food time, I hope.
The S wrench you were using was designed that way for fitting into tight places on locomotives, back when steam and even early diesel engines were used. Auto manufacturers, Henry Ford fallowed suit in the design for the same reasons. Pretty Cool wrench you have Mike!
Thanks for the info!
Cool wrench I unofficially call that a Ford specialty tool 👍🏼, Moved in to my house thirty years ago I found the same wrench you have on the property along with a bunch of Ford stuff so I always referred to the S wrench as an early Ford specialty tool , I dig when I get to use it👍🏼.
Cool video 😎
I bought a 2002 FLSTC last summer and a wrecked 2001 Road King in Dec. I was looking for an EVO when I got these two twin cams. I am an old dude that has a lot of experience with fatheads pans and shoveheads and I do not like these new Harley's they are designed so you can't do your own work. Shovel motors are basically a garden tractor I like my 72 FLH. I think I will sell this Road King as soon as I got it back on the road and maybe my Soft tail too and hunt down a EVO or another good FLH Shovelhead. Great video thanks.
Thank you. Good stuff.
Hi Mike: I used to put the Crank-shaft in the fridge for twenty
minutes. Then warm the bearings so that they get bigger than the crank-shaft
This gets rid of the interference fit, lower the new bearing onto the shaft, then in about two minutes it cools down and grips the shaft again.
Well I am nearer 70 than 60, so we had to make do and mend in the old days. Take care now.
I've done a lot of things that way. We're from the same time. I think I'm an earlier version than you. How'd that happen?
Don't know why per say but I really dig those EVO Motors! Used to have a Rottweiler years ago that passed away, his name was Evo!👍 Great video Brother!
Thank you. There are several reasons to like Evos. Let's see... they're dependable, they're easy to hop up, not as expensive as other motors. Parts availability is good. For a lot of guys, it was their first Harley. All of the different Harley motors are a different experience from each other. They all have their place.
You performed the vintage-traditional method of building a H-D motor. My respects and peaceful salutes Mike, from San Diego California. Happy New Year!
Thanks 👍 And a Happy New Year to you.
this channel is pure gold
Thank You. Glad you approve.
Also that flywheel tool is cool! The holder that is!
Thank you. I dig it.
Hey Mike. New to the channel. Really liking the videos. Very informative. Ive got a 98 Fatboy, and I love my Evo motor! She is a true road warrior.
I have a lot more confidence tearing into it after watching you do your thing. Good stuff!
Thank You
It's nice to have the correct tool for the job. Cheers Mike
Thank you.
Sir, your channel is great. I will definitely stay tuned. You sound as cool as you look. You're a lot less grumpy around Harleys than Tatro at Tatro Machine. I don't think he sleeps, though. Best regards from a DOD civilian in South Korea riding harleys all over the peninsula.
Thank you. Have fun.
I believe you are right. I really like tatro but some of his practices i dont agree with. He is very talented guy and his insistence that people learn to repair their own bikes is something I can dig.
Love all the videos, Mike. I’ve been going through them they and having a fun time. I’m glad to see guys like you still out there, very inspiring. Keep the shiny side up! -Mike
Glad you like them!
the reason why I love working on Harley engines is because I look at them as a piece of art these engines are or has been made for how long and only been through what 5 or 6 changes or designs sense they were produced love your videos reminds me of me and my good friend that started me out on rebuilding them may he RIP he showed me a few simple tricks before he lost his life a great man thank you for your videos
And thank you for watching. I appreciate your point of view. Of course I do. It's one we share. And I sure miss my friend I worked with for so many years. He taught me what I call, "The appproach."
I was listening to Abba Waterloo while watching the video suprisly it fit's the timing 😅 another great one cheers keep pushing 💪
Perfect!
Another beautiful day. Knowledge is keen. Ride on 🇨🇦
Backatcha. Thak you.
Oh boy I love the mix of home made and shop bought tools that work perfectly well.... looks a good work out for my friend!!! 👍😎👍
Thank You. I try to be careful and use the right thing.
Learning more never did the bottom end only the top a few times great video !!!
Thank you.
Thanks for your amazing content. I’m sure you make your brothers proud. Could you do a video on checking specs on Evo flywheels? I’m about to do my first Evo rebuild and the only part that makes me nervous is the case and measuring the specs on the flywheel. Much respect. You seem like the Bob Ross of motor building. Thanks again.
Thank you. Next time we remove flywheels, we'll put them in the truing stand and demonstrate. I don't do that very often.
Love the videos, cool tools... and that killer old leather belt you are wearing.
Thank you.
Cool as always Mike ! Thanks for sharing .
Thank you.
Really appreciate your videos Mike, have been watching for some time now. I'm currently in process of rebuilding my 67 shovelhead engine and it's helpful watching someone else going thru the same motions.
Although you don't seem to stop and stare at it as much as I do :-) Keep on keeping on.
I stare at this stuff when I'm not on camera. It would take forever otherwise. Thank You.
And yet another cool video!! Thanks for these!
Thank you.
That’s a very nice wrench!
I think so too!
I remember reading the first 500 rpm of any new/ rebuild engine are the most critical. Great skill.
Thank You.
Another good one Mike! Thanks...
Thank you.
I don't know if anybody has said this, and it's meant strictly as a massive compliment, but you Mike are the Bob Ross of Harley wrenching.
"Happy bearings and a little dash of assembly lube. Over here just a special tool and lapping to a lught grey, there now isn't that nice". 😁
Thank You. I suppose I'm a little corny, but I love this stuff.
@@pacificmike9501 I disagree entirely, your calm and thought out delivery of accurate and complete information is top tier. I have referenced your videos countless times and will continue to seek answers and apply them on my own projects. Gearing up to do a 96 evo bottom end that was ridin by a friend/ mentor until the mains gave up. He gave it to me and that means it must be rebuilt and breathe fire again. Thank you for your time,knowledge and your excellent way of sharing both.
Wow. Thank You very much.
great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Awsum work im glad i ran into ur vidieos long live the evoooooo thnx for your wisdom these are the best vidieos if ever seen.straight up thnx
Thank you.
You are amazing and appreciated.
Thank You.
Bearimg tool work out. Man. So cool to see how a motor comes together.
Thank You.
Hi Mike. Such awesome videos my brother. A joy to watch a master. I was watching you use that big wrench and watched it drop off the nut because it’s so heavy I’m sure. An idea came up. If you added a large enough washer to that contraction directly below the nut, the wrench could rest on it and won’t drop and make it that much easier to turn to tighten or loosen. Just a thought. Keep up your amazing videos. Sometimes I turn you on as background noise when I’m doing chores around the house. Lol.
Thank You. I'm sure you have a good idea there. I don't do it often enough to worry about.
Very good,i learn a lot👌
Glad to hear that
Sorry for your finger Mike, that would put me down in deep pain, you just said ouach and carry explaining to us. God bles you.
Thank You. If you work your hands hard enough and long enough, the pain becomes routine. You hardly think about it. Of all the things I've been hard on, I think my hands got the biggest workout, now wornout.
To install the bearing on the shaft I heat the bearing up in a pot of oil that is heated till it just begins to smoke ,and then slide it on the shaft . Not have a hammer and a length of pipe in case the bearing need a little persuasion to find its seat . No special tools needed.
I've spent a lot of time wishing I had fancy tools. I really enjoy them. I bought them a little at a time. I still have a lot of tools my friends and I have made over the years. Whatever works the best is the best.
Very much appreciated
Thank You.
This is awesome video!!! I love your video. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Well Mike; i don't think you look old, just a bit weathered my be like me, due to enjoying our self's too much,
with open faced helmets on those addictive, pesky old Motorcycles. No: that's not 'GREY hair', its CHROMING, adds a bit of CLASS.
Another thing I have found is, we sometimes forget what we are doing for a moment, but it's not our memory that's at fault. It's the recall.
It pleases me that you are passing on this good old wisdom to the younger ones. Thank you.
Well, thank you. Until 1991, this was a free state, no helmets. But, thanks for the kind words. I do like the idea of "Chroming Up" my appearance. And some of those "young guys" really are worth the effort. If they could all have old bikes and feel how cool they really are, I think this would be a better world. I'm counting on them. We're lucky to get old, you know. Lets continue it for quite a while.
Very good video. Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Just viewed your video the one thought that came across was if that is indeed 1 7/8, wouldn't the tranny socket work great there. I believe it is also 1 7/8 and is extended reach. Of course you may just have wanted to show off your brother's wrench. I also noticed you put the nut on one way and then a different way for the outboard bearing. I would have put the nut on the second way with the shoulder up against the thrust bearing of the tool. Good work my friend, living the dream.
Thank You
@@pacificmike9501 Just checked my bearing installation tool after I made those comments and to see why I don't use my tranny socket and what I found out was my tool takes a 1 7/16 socket or wrench to turn the nut. Thank you.
GANG GANG!!! thanks for the info Mike!!
Thank you.
My new favorite channel
Thank you.
Did you have the flywheel serviced? I'm wondering if you replaced the pin and the connecting rod bearings and did you have it balanced/trued? Trying to learn......Love your video and presentation style.
Thank you. He had a freshly rebuilt motor he hurt, and a worn out motor. So, he asked me to install the flywheel assembly from one into the other.
i saw a video from tatro machine checking the flywheel alignment before installing those cases... it was a great video on how to check those flywheels and how to hit them back into alignment with a hammer. now they sell those tool fixtures for this process .. it looked easy to do this process and do you ever do this type of alignment ??? i would think you would do this procedure before installing those cases... i worked in a Aerospace machine shop for 9 years and i am a skilled trades certified Aerospace machinist so using machinist tools for inspecting is what i do... i would think you would at least check flywheel alignment at least teach us your tips to check flywheel alignment for other projects we will end up doing for us or our friends.....
I don't rebuild flywheel assemblies very often. It's a lot easier to demonstrate things you do often. We'll show it at some point. This was a "known good" assembly. So, after checking it for runout on my truing stand, I put it in. It was well within spec.
@@pacificmike9501 thanks mike...
@@pacificmike9501 Thanks mike...
Hi Mike again: No your sir name is not again! Sorry for the pun.
An old trick I used to do when fitting big-ends and the misses used to get all upset.
Fancy putting crank cases in the oven, not only that; she thought i was extracting the urine, when she found the rollers in the fridge!
I made the mistake of saying; they where very clean! Well needles to say, the bearings just slid right into place, Proper Job.
Fun stuff. I bought an electric oven from a guy who was remodeling a kitchen. I gave him $30.00 for it. I put it on a dolly, attached the right plug to it (220) and it is my shop unit. I cook painted parts and expand parts that require heat expansion. Works for me.
The adjustable wrench you were using was used on erection of steel beams in tight spaced H beams
Cool. Thank You. My Brotherinlaw, who gave it to me, would be pleased to know that, as am I.
Just wondering what the dimensions are of that flywheel rebuilding jig your friend made. Thinking about making one. Also couldn't tell what he used for the pins?
The pins are just hardened studs. You want a loose fit for the flywheels so yoy don't stick to the studs. Mesure between the holes for the studs for the flywheels you'll be working with. There are diferent flywheels. This will also affect how they sit on the fixture.
Looks like a Steam fitter crescent wrench. Also used them on oil rigs out on the ocean. I haven't a clue why they have an offset handle. I've been a plumber for some 40 odd years. The offset pipe wrench has always been an easier wrench to operate.
Did I miss you putting together the rods & flywheels? I'd like to see that part if you have it on video?
Cool, and thank you. I've liked it for years. And my brother-in-law passed a while back and I miss him. The wrench reminds me of the goodies he used to find and bring to me.
@@pacificmike9501 what about the video of you putting together the flywheels and rods?
@@pacificmike9501 at our age. You don't find those little gems anymore or should I say that you don't find them as often. Not like we use to find them.
No, I didn't do. This is a flywheel assembly out of another motor. When I do one, we'll show it. I don't do it often enough to be real comfortable showing it. But, we will.
We still find an occasional gem. I bought my stuff a long time ago. And I hung onto it. The goal was to some day retire and play with my toys. I did and I do.
Cranking that bearing into place sure seemed to jerk that shaft around a lot. I assume all was OK with the shaft and flywheel ??
Yes.
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hey Mike Great video. I might have missed you saying anything about this but thought id ask anyway. was that crank new, with new rod bearings, or rebuilt with new bearings and trued up?
Nope. In all the years we've had it, never opened the engine.
Hey Mike a little off topic, I have a leaking Shovelhead rocker box, all the way in the back on rear head, in the low spot where they usually leak. I've done my very best to clean up the gasket surfaces without gouging them up but I found a few imperfections undoubtedly from someone using a hard metal tool on aluminum from it's past life, although not horrible but not perfect either which brings me to my question. What type of sealer would you use in conjunction with the gasket, and what gasket would you recommend to use with a sealer that might fill in the imperfections. 3 bond 1184? Of course I'm concerned about anything that might break off and get into one of those oil drain holes and clog up the works. Thanks in advance for any wisdom you might share. MLLH&R
Well, without looking at the parts, I can only speculate. However, I think I've seen quite a combination of rocker box leaks on Shovelheads. I've even milled the surfaces. Be careful! At that point, it better be microscopic. I blasted one of my own heads once, and opened up a casting flaw in it. I used to fill that flaw with high temp silicone until I finally had a friend weld it up and machine it. First, realize, anything that is leaking at a low point is usually leaking from a higher point, and, it ran down there. Thicker rocker box gaskets, good sealant of your choice. Torque according to your service manual. A little "ultra grey" sometimes will do the trick.
Do you ever freeze the flywheel assy and heat the bearing so it would just slide together. A magnetic bearing heater might be handy. Good show Mike thanks, Bo. Oh yea, dropped that flywheel assy on your finger didn't say a cuss word. You da man!!!
Thank You. Those bearings, measured and remeasured and then, it'a "feel" thing.
hey mike! im building an evo stroker and an watching your videos as guidance. I've watched both the evo and the stroker playlists and dont see a video that shows the case grinding to compensate for the offset nut clearance. Can you recommend a video that shows this process? thank you sir for your time!
I actually built that stroker a long time ago and just recently did all of the topend. "Clearancing" the cases for strokers is best outlined by S&S in their own catalog, which you can find online. Go to "sscycle.com."
I have a question I need to change the the gaskets on the jugs to the base not sure just what you call them. My question is when I remove them from the piston when going back will I have to hone and re ring them or can I remove them put new gaskets on and just put them back
Sounds like an Evolution motor. Answer to first question: They are referred to as "base gaskets." Second answer: What you could get away with and what you should do are two different things. If you're not comfortable with all of it, get help with what you don't. Honing the cylinders is a simple operation and installing new rings is not difficult. But, you need to adhere to all of the rules and specifications spelled out in your service manual. End gaps must be checked and set as needed. You might have a shop prep your parts for you and do the assembly work yourself. Find a competent shop..
@@pacificmike9501 thank you sir.
The last twin cam using the same cranks assembly just like Evo is 02" TC88, crankshafts runout getting worst since then.
I try not to criticize.
nice 1 Mike
Thank you.
Sorry a little late Mike , my husband says the wrench is a Westcott , used by Steamfitter's & Millwrights !
I did find that out, thank You. I appreciate the info anyway. We get to bring it up all over again.
Hello mike.
Question on bearings with the engine rebuild,do you purchase the bearings from the dealer or do you match up part numbers when you remove them from the case to shop at bearing supply shops
I buy from a supplier of aftermarket Harley parts.
Good morning Mike, I’ve watched you for a few months now, and you’re very informative . I recently subscribed and I will continue watching because I have a 1997 Fat Boy which has a worn cam bearing. Since I will need to break the engine down and look for shavings, I want to completely break the engine down and upgrade to reliable parts , and add horse power. I’ve order d a service manual and hopefully I will become successful with the upgrade . Rebuilding engines throughout my life is different than rebuilding a Harley engine. My question is, what advise you have for me?
Take it slow. You don't know what you'll need until you're in there. The most different parts to a Harley engine, are the flywheel assembly and the oiling system. My friend Jim's engine is pretty well covered in there as far as upgrades are concerned. There is quite a large series on it in the playlist section. Go to our UA-cam Homepage.
@@pacificmike9501 I sincerely thank you for your reply.
mike that wrench is a dentist best hidden secret.
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Hey Mike ! First of all thank you for your videos, I'm currently rebuilding my 90 EVO engine. I just wanted to know where did you find the tool you used to press the bearing on the crankshaft ? Thanks in advance.
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Thank You. It is made by Jim's Machine and the major suppliers of aftermarket parts carry it in their tool section.
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Thank you.
Here's an interesting idea... why not weld a couple of rods at 180 degrees onto the nut! That way the tool has a T-bar :-)
Okay.
Why were the bearings not packed in grease ?? Just curious.
Assembling it packed with grease would throw off the clearances. You'll find that in your Service Manual;.
Pacific mike I’m wondering about the pinion shaft bearing race. I’m in the process of putting my whole lower end assembly together and while I was pressing the race in, with a 20 ton press it does not want to go and now I have scored my case. Is it possible there are different sized races or did I get a garbage part from Jim’s
I've never gotten bad parts from Jim's. You should mic both parts and see.
Hey MR Mike have you ever tried to set the bearing on a incandescent light bulb while setting up your rig ?
the bearing gets warm but not to warm and it expands will drop right into place and when it cools the bearing will be tight if you have a reason for not doing it that way I would love to know what that is great videos thanks much
Which bearing are we speaking of? I certainly use heat when appropriate and properly controlled.
@@pacificmike9501 the timken bearings I used to replace bearings on laundry equipment and we would place the new timken bearings on a incandescent light bulb while we removed the old one by then they would be warmed up expanded and slide right on and in place
Hi, great video, I have a 79 Shovel, where the right side timkens can be removed by hand. Will it need a crank pin job or will loctite it down work?
Timkens are on the left side. Loose rollers on the right side. Do very careful research. This is no place to experiment.
@@pacificmike9501 Sorry, I cant differ between left and right :), of course it is on the left side. my question is when I see all people using special tools to seat the bearings, and I can push it on by hand, it indicates something is wrong?
Yes. It is a "press fit."
in a pinch could the bearings be installed with a good pipe and sledge hammer?
NO
Hey Mike. Love the videos. Just pulled top end on my 91 heritage. Everything is in spec and it has 87,000kms on motor. Is there a way to see if i need to split bottom end with out splitting cases ? I tried your method of pushing connecting rod to side and tapped with mallet. It checked out. Any info would help. Thanks again
You got it. You did it. That's all there is without tearing a completely good motor apart for nothing. I assume the bores are still good in that Evo. I'd do a nice ball hone on the bores. Fit a new set of piston rings (as per proper specifications). A real sweet job of hand lapping those valves and a new set of valve seals and umbrella valves and proper torqueing as per either Harley Davidson or the manufacturer of the head gaskets and you're good to go for a long time. Wait! While the top end is off, inspect everything in the cam chest. If they haven't already been replaced, you should consider the valve lifters and the cam bearing.
@@pacificmike9501 yes sir. Giving it a new hone and new rings. Putting in a ev27 cam with new bearing. Thanks again Mike. I trully enjoy your videos
no caso da instalação do rolamento, ode se utilizar uma prença tambem? ou não pode?
What I showed is what I know and do. I don't quite understand what you're trying to do. You draw the flywheel assembly into the Timken bearing rather than press and risk distorting the assembly out of true. I hope that answers the question.
How did you get the old bearing off the flywheel assembly?
A proper bearing puller.
So how do you prevent scissoring the crank when you install it like that?
I made a crankshaft install tool also, but mine holds the flywheel that's on the same side as the Timken bearing so when you prevent the crank from spinning during the install there's no chance of scissoring the crank.
I haven't had the problem.
have you ever thought of using a hot plate and heat stick to in stall bearings?
No.
Did you replace the 8 studs with new studs or did you use the old studs? Are you one who also believes you should replace all these bearings???
I'm there. Don't want to be back very soon. The bearings are relatively inexpensive compared to your time. Motor studs should be inspected. If they look great, they are.
I also grease the nut on the tool threads so it will go easier?
You bet, and, it helps make the tool last longer.
Anyway you could post a link to some of the tools you used for this evo assembly?
All of the major aftermarket suppliers carry these tools. I'm not doing advertising at this time.
Hey Mike my 97 eco looks like the left main seal is leaking. Can I get away with just pulling it out and pop in a new one?
Yes, but, replace the spacer too. The seal has certainly worn a groove in it. That groove will always leak.
Hey Mike, I was curious if you knew Missouri John by any chance?
Not to my knowledge.
Whats the part numbers for the all the bearings in the bottom end?
I think it's time to buy a parts manual. When you have difficulty, I''ll try to help. But, I won't do your work for you. If you can operate a computer, you can get part numbers online.
@@pacificmike9501 I have a parts manual. Just thought you might have them handy or recommend a different brand of bearing that could be better. Dont have to be a dick. I can do my own work. You know what they say when you assume.
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Thank You.
Where do you buy those tools who sells them?
Most aftermarket suppliers.
Mike, where can I order that tool?
Okay. I figured out what you meant by watching the video. It is a Jim's Machine Timken Installer. It can be ordered from any of the large aftermarket suppliers. Part Number 97225-55-1 (That is the Jim's number).
Should you pack the bearing?
The bearing gets oiled by motor oil. Don't put it in dry, but, no grease. Assembly lube is okay, when assembliing.
Anybody out there know how to get the fort bearing backwards from your back cylinder to the front just wondering
Sorry. I don't understand the question.
What brand of assembly lube do you use? Thanks
I think they're all probably good. I use whatever the parts house has.
How do you know that the spacer between the bearings was the correct size, you never showed checking the play between them? And don't try and tell me that was a matched set, there is no way to match the bearings, and the spacer, without having the cases.
Wrong. The bearings races and spacers come as a matched set. Then, you give it a final check for endplay. The races stop when they touch the spacer. The first Timken goes onto the shaft, all the way. Then the inner spacer goes onto the shaft. the other spacer is between the races. Don't tell me they're not matched. You can get all the components and make up your own set. You can measure and fit to your heart's content. Some do. Or, you buy a matched set and install it (never leave anything to chance. Measure the endplay).
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@@pacificmike9501 that would be funny if i was the one who mailed that to you mike. God is wonderful how he works at times. Us Harley guys use to need each other to keep them running. my evo changed that. we left them inspired, and we rode hard. Man oh man we had the fun did we not. no reply needed friend.
There's other ways to do that task.
Okay.
You didn't check the bearing free play or clearance like Tatro does. That should be done as part of a quality rebuild. Clearances and fitment matter.
True. Sorry I didn't show everything. It's part of EVERY build.
Where do you check the clearance? What free play? I'm a young amateur trying to rebuild an evo