The penrose diagram is my favourite recurring character on space time. After seeing it on at least 3 episodes so far, I'm understanding it better each time :D
I like that people do constantly tell him hes wrong ( and he could be about things ) but clearly he knows what he is talking about. Then again Neil Degrass Tyson has be scrutinized too. I think the only one no one touches is Michio Ikaku lol.
Also to understand the diagram, i would look at the video talking about light actually seen inside a black hole recently, suggesting parallel universes where white holes exist.
Well, we can see a black hole, weirdly, because we can see the light bending around it; we see it as it's effect on things we know how to see. A theoretical white hole doesn't necessarily have to constantly radiate light - perhaps it is also black. Perhaps light external to the white whole interacts with it in a way we cannot see it. We had to understand what a black hole was before we could see one, probably the same is true for a white hole. There may be qualities of a white hole that we have yet to understand, and until we know what to look for we won't be able to catch one.
Lucifer: It's not inside the black hole, nor inside the white hole, but at the other side of the Penrose diagram, in the parallel space-time to our own. Also there are probably infintely infinites many of them. Scary!
@@OphidianEy3 imma be real, i don't swing that way, but Dowd has a voice and face made for Space Documentaries. who says nerds have to be neckbeards????
They will discuss it in a past episode of space-time. I reversed causality in the last statement, but I didn't reverse time, so you can check them out.
If a white hole ejects matter, what determines the direction in which the matter comes out? If it's something about position within the white hole, then what if you place an elementary particle, like a photon, in the exact center of the white hole, then will it still come out?
Four years after its release - I continue to love watching this episode… encouraged by all the current quests of science to explain white holes. I continue to, using my minuscule physics background, ponder the possibility of white holes (using Penrose diagrams and Schwartzshield metrics). Math May claim it’s “possible” however I can’t wrap my head around the possibility due to the second law of thermodynamics. Some theorize that white hole may originate at the singularity of a black hole, how can the gravitational force immediately convert to a repulsive force. I have concluded that a while hole is “possible” however, only at the merger/impact of two universes (M theory) 😉 Thank you Matt for the infinite knowledge provided. Cheers
Nor do we know for certain that entropy will always flow in the same direction within our universe. For all we know, entropy could fluctuate back and forth like a sine wave but that phenominon would only be observable from a perspectice seperated from the flow of time as we know it.
aFuturnaught Isn’t that a meaningless argument though? If the existence of something, anything really, is so outside our perspective as to be impossible to perceive and thus has no impact or bearing, then for all intents and purposes, it does not exist and is ultimately irrelevant to our laws. We can only create hypothesis and theories based on things we can observe, directly, indirectly, mathematically, etc. You could argue the whole ‘does a falling tree make a sound if no one is there to hear.’ But we know the answer because we know how sound works. If something is so far removed from us that we cannot ever interact with it, it might as well not exist.
Bruno Pereira Yes, it is a very simple concept. Yet, that doesn’t fit here. If you cannot prove that a system exists, because it is literally outside of our perception/reality, then you can only continue to operate on the premise that it doesn’t exist. I mean you can BELIEVE that it exists all you want but, like Religion, that doesn’t make it real or even useable. You either work with what you have in front of you or you don’t.
Bruno Pereira No that isn’t what I’m saying at all. If the system has ZERO affect on us or anything that we can observe in this universe or ANY other framework of a reality that we can interact with, then why would we waste time trying to prove such a system exists? I can say that outside of our observable universe, you can destroy/create energy. In our observable universe that isn’t true so changing the laws to accommodate the opposite isn’t going to help at all. There is no bias. I’m not saying it simply cannot exist, but if we cannot interact with it and it cannot be observed then we cannot formulate anything that takes it into consideration.
Bruno Pereira I did not say that you said we should waste time nor was I trying to imply that you did. In fact, I did. Because I think it would be a waste of limited time and resources. Also, the guy that I was replying to essentially said, in a way, that we couldn’t when he said that the phenomenon could only be observed from a perspective outside the flow of time as we know it. That is, in essence, outside of our reality as we are governed by the flow of time as we do currently know it. Also I sense there is a mild misunderstanding in what I am trying to say. I’ll try to state it more clearly with what I am assuming you think I am trying to say and what I am trying to say: “If it is outside our reality, our observable universe, it cannot exist as it exist outside our laws.” “If we cannot observe something because it is outside of our observable universe, then we operate as if it doesn’t exist until otherwise.” I’m of the 2nd mindset. Why waste time and resources chasing something that has no evidence of existence? Now obviously the KEY note is something with no evidence can just be hidden in the math but usually there is something that hints at it. That is not what we are talking about that. Something completely outside our observable reality which has no impact or effect on us is a fool’s errand.
Back in the 70's, I remember hearing theories that Quasars were white holes. That was before we realized that they were black holes at the center of galaxies.
Nature is fractal. Nothing is really forever. Every system is stable until a certain level of energy. After will arrive instability. A change, and another time stability. And things repeat forever. So, at the moment there is something we can't observe at our scale. And is difficult to find explanations to process we can't observe directly. Then we need to construct (I hope) working model try to explain what we cannot do now.
As soon as I saw the half-filled penrose field, I saw the implications for white holes to be both star-like (the past of black holes) and like the Big Bang. It also seemed like, if we had a magical ship, we could enter the black hole and exit in the white hole, making it a form of one-way time travel. It could also be that every black hole has an exit as a white hole in a new universe. I think that could be plausible.
@Angelo Ferreira This ignores the possibility that they came into existence on the inside of the interior, like maybe us. This, I think would fit best with one of my favorite theories: Quantum Darwinism. I usually think about the version of quantum darwinism that allows other versions of Conway's game of life to be played out on differing systems, not strictly the field dimensions and relational data our local universe uses. In context with the black hole interior acting like a matter fountain for our universe, as some form of white hole or white hole cousin for reasons we don't yet understand... just think of them as singularities, and start presuming that singularities are just the natural cellular element that allows for vastly different internal and external 'spatial' relationships. (or properties of locality/nonlocality in qm) in that realm, particles and universes would be a constant emulation of cellular automata that dance out as our experiences of particles: ('particle pixels' 'multicellular quasiparticle life') in universe: ('white hole' 'birthing white hole like structures inside itself in the form of black holes').
@@betterlifeexe - Describing existence, and making good use of flow of Entropy in the process. Well done - and Interesting ! .Balancing positive and negative (from OUR point of view - "frame of reference" depending on which side of the Black/White hole your Universe originated. Matter vs. Anti-Matter (again - depending ... ) ? HHhhmm.... MIGHT be connected somehow with the M/A-M disparity we observe on _THIS_ side of existence. Btw- sounds like an EXCELLENT Story Premise 👍 , to me !
@@chuckintexas I love the idea of matter-antimatter 'shells'. Perhaps some fractal 'gene-like' pattern gets imperfectly copied and mirrored into new universes, but with opposite matter-'ness' instead of handedness. the black-white hole duality might end up just being a more generalized description of a cellular membrane in a live system that we are to ignorant and young to understand. what I mean to say is, physics may become generalized biology. (in this model)
Does the concept of "everywhere" make any sense at inception of universe? I.e., what's the difference between a singularity and "everywhere" if there is no space or time yet?
Joshua Augustus Bacigalupi nothing was never anywhere. That's why it's been everywhere. It been so everywhere, you don't need a "where." You don't even need a "when." That's how "every" it gets.
Joshua Augustus Bacigalupi As much as the concept of longitude does in the Poles It's quite technical: you need to trap all worldlines in a 'Cauchy' sense inside a surface to have a singularity. If the primordial egg doesn't contain one, theoretically we could 'bounce' off it (weird, huh?)
Well for one thing the big bang doesn't necessarily suggest the beginning of space and time, in some models it does but not in others. The math behind it can get a bit head-ache inducing but the difference is like that between dividing one by zero (Singularity) and having an infinitely small number. (Big bang) A big bang that was a singularity,in the sense of a black or white hole doesn't work since it is a center. What it would produce would also have a center from which everything would originate (and in some cases wouldn't produce anything at all. Why would the center of a black hole expand for example.) It's a subtle difference that's hard to explain, but it's an important one.
"The Way To Create A Black Hole,Is to Reverse ENTROPY..." My Brain: *YPORTNE* Edit: 390 likes??? oh. thanks guys. i can't believe that this is from 9 Month ago...
TheWoldIsFullofSheep EducateYourselfDontBeOne wow you are so damn ignorant. I didn't know people like you lived. And why saying they are lazy? You judge so fast. Get a life dude.
You know, I always thought I had my head around the core concepts of relativity, space time, black holes and the likes. Until I watched this video. I got a lot more learning to do. Thanks a lot PBS Spacetime
Taking your meaning AND your intent 👍 seems they ALL do. Never forget this thousands-year old TRUTH: The MAP is _NOT_ the _MOUNTAIN_ . _ALL_ the BEST - C.
Nothing can travel through space faster than light. However, Universal Expansion has to travel faster than light. I believe that Dark Matter and Dark Energy are a 'visual' to Universal Expansion. I use 'visual' very weakly. We see nothing but empty black, just like a Black Hole. We only see the surrounding causal events,
@@neillpriest-fletcher1252 You're right, nothing can travel FTL through space. But the speed of light can be beaten. Like you said "Universal expansion" is one means. Quantum entanglement is another thing that is FTL, at least 10 to the 4th power faster, possibly instantaneous. Though visibly, physically observing and measuring both of these is difficult. Though an observable, measurable earthbound FTL also exists, in the form of Cherenkov radiation. Certain charged particles can pass through a dielectric medium faster than 186,292 mps (not sure by how much). But in doing so a blue (Cherenkov light) glow is emitted. It's basically the visual/speed of light equivalent of a sonic boom occuring when the sound barrier is broken. I'm kind of curious about gravity and FTL. Gravity, or its effects at least, move at light speed. But as it's a force (no matter/particles), it doens't have those constraints. The studies and research in to this topic following Newtons laws, Einsteins General relativity theory and others is really interesting; although testing such ideas is complex considering you'd really need something with a much higher gravitational force than our sun gives off! I'm also curious about whether the universe possibly spinning contributing to the universal expansion speeds. Moving your finger through 90''' in one second covers a distance of 15cms-ish. If your (unbreakable, unbendable) finger was a light second long (187,000 miles) and you were still able to move it through 90'', the end of your finger would have to travel much farther than a light second in a second; therefore FTL. Could use the same idea except with a spinning rope. 1rpm might not seem much, but if that rope (or galactic filament) is long enough, distances require FTL speeds. Higher dimensions (at least in my mind) may beat FTl as well. I think the above is it for FTL; well those and super-diarrhea! Sorry about the length! Chapter 2: It was a dark, stormy night... jk lol :D
I think we're living in a white-hole. The continuous expansion of the universe, with distant parts of the universe expanding faster than the speed of light such that the light can never enter our field of view, certainly seems to support the idea.
This sounds fake and why is it white in colour it's just a excuse for a opposite of a black hole. How does it eject stuff. Also he just says random long words to sound smart.
@@dylanprice1978 This is all highly theoretical and isn't meant to be an excuse for anything it's just a theory for an object that the math of Einsteins theory of relativity would allow. The chances of there actually being such an object are very slim. Not everyone is interested in theoretical physics as it's nothing but a bunch of mind boggling equations but it has lead to the discovery of things like black holes and more importantly the creation of the quantum computer.
"Very rare reductions in entropy do happen, as long as globally, entropy increases on average." So, does this mean that in order to decrease the entropy in a particular area, the entropy of some other area in the universe has to increase more than the average? So that's why my room gets so messy all the time. There's someone out there arranging theirs!
Not really. The increase of entropy is not some "first principle" of the universe, but rather a statistical consequence of the ergodic principle and boundary conditions of your isolated system. Now go tidy your room!
Disorder is a misleading characterization of entropy so I wouldn't get too hung up on it. A better explanation of entropy is that it's a measure of how many ways the energy of the system of interest can be distributed amongst the available energy configurations or "microstates". As was mentioned in the video, entropy can decrease, it just very rarely does and whatever system had decreasing entropy will quickly maximize its entropy since things want to maximize the number of ways energy can be spread out simply because there are far far more ways for energy to be spread out than to be localized. In some highly idealized cases, entropy can be decreased by doing work on the system but the system in its new state will still obtain the highest possible entropy it can have.
Frank Schneider what if the big surprise is that the moment any extinction-level event hangs over us, one we can't control, some apparently external force, something "outside the system", intervenes. ;)
Give me some hard conclusive evidence for the existence of an "external force" from "outside the system" (e.g. the flying spaghetti monster) and we can talk, until then it doesn't exist, just like Santa and chem trails.
When looking at a black hole's energies, you will see a structure that has no mirrored structure of energies. What if a black hole and a white hole simultaneously exist in the same space? With a black hole, the event horizon is the rim around a black hole that holds the matter that is still "trying to escape via gravitational slingshot" that can't. But what about what can? Isn't it thrown away from the black hole as if repelled?
So Hawking radiation is random virtual particle pairs spawning and taking away energy from a black hole, right? Does that mean hawking radiation of our mother-black hole, viewed in reverse, could be responsible for dark energy? Dark energy is just energy being added uniformly to our universe, after all. (Disclaimer: I also have no clue what I am talking about.)
Thanks for pointing that out! Although I have to admit I didn't get what he was saying, and baez himself says he doesn't know whether the pop-culture interpretation is even wrong. Anyway something radiates at least, so the question still stands. Would you know anything about that by chance? Do the numbers check out?
yrusb, I meant that since black holes radiate away energy, and our universe might have been caused by a white hole (which is a black hole with time reversed), maybe our "mother-black hole" radiating away mass could cause dark energy when viewed in reverse. I wasn't talking about the black holes in our universe, but I'll quickly edit that in
I don't know, that's why I'm asking. Since my question seems to be obviously stupid, let me ask another one, so maybe I can understand: What effect does hawking-radiation have on white holes? What effect does hawking-radiation have on the hypothetical baby-universes inside black holes? Radiation due to observer disagreement also means nothing to me, sorry. :/
negativlex32 Dude, since you seem to be on the know: from what I grasped from Hawking's paper, it's quantum scattering - and I'm always commenting in these terms. Anyway, reverse who is outgoing and incoming, get WH result?
Hawking radiation: Randomly, two virtual particles appear at the event horizon, one leaves and the other falls back in. Reversing it gives the exact same result.
I think like Liam but that way of thinking actually goes against what Hawking posited about black holes evaporation. I don't think they evaporate at all.
I am not a physicist, just a lover and admirer of science and physics as a whole. I don't really know if this pertains to the video really, but is it possible that white holes are at the edge of the universe? Redistributing and spreading matter from event horizons of black holes across the universe?. These white holes would be so immensely far away that the light emitting from them would be stretched and red shifted into almost nothingness. Could every black hole have a partner white hole? They would be intrinsically linked, almost like entangled particles, redistributing matter through a higher dimensional cosmic "chute" system? This probably sounds completely insane, but most of the commenters here seem like very smart people, and I would love to hear your take on this. Thank you!
It makes sense that the white hole is an exit of a black hole as everything has to have an opposite like jing and jang/black and white. If you go through one hole, you get out of another. Light has to escape somewhere, same with an object that gets sucked into one. What I want to know is what happens if you do go inside a black hole. Multiple youtubers says that you'd become spaghetti and die but I don't believe that in the slightest. Gravity is gravity, if you drop a rock on the moon, itll drop slowly to the ground. If you drop a rock at mars, it'd drop faster and on earth the fastest. It wouldn't stretch or bend, just accelerate faster towards the ground. Meaning in reality that if you fall into a black hole, you'd just fall faster the further you go in the event horizon, sure you'd probably go unconscious because of all the blood going to the feet or if ur falling, all ur blood go into ur head. But you wouldn't die though.
@@chuckintexas Nothing to enlighten here, i just have the (arguably silly) Hobby of recommending Science-UA-camr to people i know like science cause they are in comment-sections-of-science.
Matt, I have one word for you on this subject (and I might have said it before, but I'll repeat it anyway): Alice-Through-the-Looking-Glass (1 word). "The looking-glass" part refers to distant singularity; Alice has her life partner (the counter-part) Bob; Alice implies Bob (and vice versa); "Alice" part is consciousness, "Bob" is (pure) information (in this metaphor), and the preposition implies point reflection. White hole is "information dual" of a black hole, and the artifact (one among the many) arises from GR only because physics doesn't treat the (purely digital) information properly. Note: This is fast-publishing thought, so it might be amended in the future…
The Cat: So, what is it? Kryten: I've never seen one before - no one has - but I'm guessing it's a white hole. Rimmer: A *white* hole? Kryten: Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. A black hole sucks time and matter out of the Universe; a white hole returns it. Lister: So, that thing's spewing time... Lister: [donning his fur-lined hat] ... back into the Universe? Kryten: Precisely. That's why we're experiencing these curious time phenomena on board. The Cat: So, what is it?
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If white holes are opposite ofblack holes can it be possible the universe is in time loop of black hole and white hole where al the matter entering blackhole exits at start of time and cycle continues, this happens eternally , and every blackhole creates a white hole at beginninh of time,and because of it ,it is not possible to enter white hole or exit black hole as the matter is stuck in time loop eternally
I think this is what defines infinity. It makes sense since it obeys the most elementary rule of energy that energy is neither created not destroyed it's just recycled forever.
@@MrSomeRedditor yes, but only after it has already absorbed matter. If the 2 universe theory is in place, this would be ejected into the second universe through a white hole, where this mass would once again be able to become dense enough to form another black hole, therefore continuing the loop
Polintalu an unstoppable force would literally meet an immovable object. I think he universe’s credits would roll and we’d have to start the New Universe +
Nothing would happen. Its basically the same as 2 magnets. One attracts and one does the opposite. If you put them together, they don't touch because when the one that attracts wants to take the other magnet, the other magnet pushes it away. So if they met, nothing would happen, they'd just become neighbors to each other.
It's good content. But it's also really advanced content. It has a level of detail and depth greater than most stuff made for the common masses. So it makes sense that it's really popular with people who appreciate such content.
Everything that goes into a black hole travels in time to the beginning of the universe. The only white hole we know of was the big bang itself. This is why all the information seems lost and it is impossible to see through a black hole. Even light is sucked into the distant past of the universe to meet the singularity of the beginning of time, the big bang white hole. And that's why everything is connected, past, present and future are consequences of each other.
@Bruno Pereira i believe there is something there it's just that light can't get away from it to reach your eyes. so the event horizon looks black. it might be the size of a football or something. the mass of a few suns compressed to a soccer ball. i don't thin they mean an actual hole in space. we simply can never see the object from the outside because of its gravity. but once you pass the event horizon its intense radiation will vaporize you.
This "other side" of the black/white hole is just part of our same universe. Remember there are actually 3 spatial dimension, not 1 as in the Penrose diagram. If the x axis is distance to the black hole center, you simply go around to the other side of the black hole.
Yang mill missing Mass Could be "DARK ENERGY " Existing in a Space field as a vacuum like PARTICLE FIELD with Kahler like Metric Distributed in HILBERT SPACE and olny measurable when HILBERT ECLUDEIAN SPACE VECTOR INTERACTION is is Traced or Scaled into the RIEMANN METRIC then You get Gravity If the Einstein-Ricci Metric TENSOR with the RICCI NEGATIVE curvature VANISHING into the Hausdroff measure BY THIS ROTATION gauges the PARTICLE FIELDS VECTOR basis from this TRANSFORMATION FUNCTION And get the WAVE FUNCTION and when these FIELD VECTOR is Reflected back into the LOCAL Gravitational force through RIEMANN metric TENSOR You get the RICC NEGATIVE CURVATURE FLOW Creating Massless particles like Gluons and photons particles Boson and its Intermediates elementary particles ELECTRON PROTONS and NEUTRON thru Radioactive DECAY along with The 4 forces of Nature Of Time and 3 ADDITION DIMENSION OF SPACE and QUANTUM SPIN Being INTERGER and1/2 HALF INTERGER
Are whiteholes expected to grow over time due to reversed Hawking radiation?
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TiagoTiago I don't think so. If they react in an opposite manner to black holes then they should shrink much faster. At least, my reasoning is that blackhole's increase in mass relative to the amount of matter that crosses their event horizon. So in the case of white holes, only when the rate of reverse radiation has overtaken the rate at which matter exits. That said, I still don't think they exist. Black holes aren't tunnels with an entrance and an exit. They're spherical singularities, and the entrance is their event horizon, which is a diameter around the central point. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No nothing can enter a white holes event horizon, while nothing can leave a blacks holes event horizon. Meaning they cant grow with matter or energy form our universe, If i remember correctly hawking radiation is caused when a pair of virtual particles appears near the event horizon of a black hole, and one of the 2 opposite particles gets sucked in the other escapes. But i could be wrong its been some time since i brushed up on this stuff.
No, as in my post above they are really quite different beasties. Black holes are what happens when you put too much matter too close together. White holes are what happens when energy is added to spacetime from another brane through a collision.
I have been thinking, what if we are inside a whitehole? Heres the reason: 1. Whitehole event horizon is a line in space where nothing can get inside. Now let's change out perspective as if we are in the middle of whitehole. Then, the event horizon is a line in space surrounding us in which when something past that line, it never came back. And nothing beyond that line can get to us. Sound familiar? Its perfectly describe the line of observable universe. It seems like observable universe line is just whitehole event horizon inwards! 2. Black hole happen when mass put in very tiny space. Even the tiniest mass can become black hole if it is compressed and dense enough to become a black hole. Now let's imagine the opposite, what happen in a infinitely huge space (actually we currently do). The universe expansion takes over which made galaxies accelerating away from us which led to the observable universe line! Blackhole very small space, whitehole very huge place.
3. In the Penrose diagram, whitehole comes from the infinite past. Now imagine a spaceship at the edge of the observable universe. Since it is moving away from us close to the speed of light, we will observe as if time freeze on them. Infinite time will past on us for them to to experience even a second. It seems as if we are ourself the infinite past.
Well if they are real they shouldn't exist for a long time since they would run out of energy and material so they might have existed also it's not just possible that space was randomly created it was randomly created if it wasn't there would be life in a lot of solar systems if not in every planet.
11:10 If a black hole is the big bang of a new baby universe , and our universe was formed the same way , then this is like the the chicken and the egg problem , which came first ? the black hole or the universe ?
Zahir khan Oddly enough it's possible that neither chicken or egg came first. A black hole in our universe could create a new universe that ends up having a black hole that in turn creates our universe.
Zahir khan Its possible there is no first or last. Remember, time gets fucked inside (and near) black holes. Thinking about these things is bound to make anyone's head hurt.
Dinosaurs laid eggs long before chickens, if there was a first chicken by mutation, it occurred in an egg. Simple. Also time is an illusion experienced by particles within it while it's likely all states of all universes exist statically and eternally. Thus there is no beginning or end, just looks like it from a particles perspective. Both the universe we see and any precursor exist simultaneously.
That physicist's (11:08) revelation was also something I came up with about 7 years ago while very high, despite having no education in the field, only a fascination with black holes and an interest in possibilities.
i was wondering if white holes could just be the antimatter equivalent of black holes, because if consider antimatter as matter with backwards flowing time, then from the perspective of the white holes, stuff goes out of it
@@Majestic469 because they're the opposite of black holes. If we could harness their everlasting explosion of radiation, that's energy to last far more lives than the sun. It's just solar energy.
I am planning on building a reverse entropy device for manipulating gravity. It sounds incredibly like the description of the white hole you gave. One of the things I am worried about is that snap back of energy you are talking about. Incredible you mentioned that. One day soon you'll be talking about my GMD (gravitational manipulation device). It's based very closely on GR. This new theory I'm working on will hopefully break us into the gravity age. The only thing I have done is redefined mass as a force instead of the amount of matter. Mass is only exhibited in matter because of the movement of the energy within its particles vibrating voids into the fabric of space with resonant frequencies, which is what matter is after all. The opposite force of mass from space pushes those voids together, aka gravity. Space is the solid matrix. Energy is the fluid, and matter is standing waves, or bubbles, in the matrix. The trinity is the universe.
Lololololol!!! I literally concluded this watching a video on white holes... I made a massive comment on my theory and everything. Then I get this in my feed less than a week later. I'mma keep telling myself it was my idea, helps with my insecurity. Mine was nearly the same, except where and precisely what a white hole is. Here's the very short version: a blackholes causes space and time to switch places. More precisely that space loses all degrees of freedom and has directionality... the arrow of space I guess? Causality breaks down (kinda), meaning time becomes an axis of freedom. One other thing to point out is that a black hole's event horizon is a boundary is space, but it can still move freely through space. If a white hole is the opposite of a blackhole then it would undergo the same process... but in reverse. In other words it would be a boundary in time, transversal by you temporal degree of freedom. Space would also go from being an arrow to, well, space. I need to empathize the space swapping: backwards is the same concept as yesterday. Well from that it seems a whitehole is the inner boundary of a blackhole. It can be traversed by reversing your experience of time, perfectly doable... not quite sure how. Once you preceded your own entry your energy would have to leave, but its decoupled from time. Just as space goes from free to rigid so would time. Lastly I think it reasonable to assume that matter cannot enter a blackhole, only it's energy. Almost like a ripple of information. As I see it there are two ways to reverse this. Firstly a particle could leave, but decoupled with time... any time becomes possible and it would be annihilation products. Secondly it could maintain its space related tomfoolery, adding energy to spacetime.
The white hole could also help explain why the universe didn't instantly turn into a black hole when it formed. It's forcefully ejecting all of the matter in existence. This could not have possibly have happened instantly or the story would be that we are shrinking instead of the universe expanding. The question to ask is what would happen if a white hole were to form from inside a black hole. This is paradoxical because a white hole cannot allow things to enter while a black hole cannot allow things to exit. In order to resolve this, it expands space. Does space expand locally or "globally"? Because if it expands globally, then there is no friction to slow down the expansion. Like how if you were to throw a ball in space it would just keep floating forever. The universe may just exist in that space between two event horizons that have opposing rules. It is entirely possible that when all of existence was created by a white hole, after the white hole collapsed, then that universe simply formed a black hole. Then by random chance, when a new white hole formed, it formed inside a black hole. This could be how the universe as we know it came into existence. To end it off, I would like to say that perhaps a white hole is supposed to form within a black hole because since time is relative, you are more likely to encounter a white hole if your time moves slower.
You require mass and gravity to form a black hole. At the big bang, the energy of the universe was too high for the fundamental forces to solidify. Assuming gravity is also such a force, then there wasn't any gravitational field so matter would not attract each other. There also wasn't any Higgs field so particles wouldn't have mass.
"The white hole could also help explain why the universe didn't instantly turn into a black hole when it formed." - there was No matter, to begin with; just sub-atomic particles and "space time".
Sub-atomic particles are also matter, just because they are sub-atomic does not means they are not affected by gravity. But in the early states of the universe there is another reason why it didnt collapse into a black hole, the matter has almost the same density everywhere, even with the matter of gallaxies in the space of one proton every point of space has almost the same amount of matter, the gravity net efect from all points of space is zero in that situation. There must be differents of density in the earlier universe, but just enought to make matter collpase to start to form galaxies after some thousands of years, it would need a bigger density difference to make all universe collpase into a giant black hole
"The white hole could also help explain why the universe didn't instantly turn into a black hole when it formed." The opposite is actually true. Matter expelled from a White Hole would collapse back into a Black Hole because of self-gravity.
Mikestion -A grey hole does exist. It's called "Donald Trump's White House". You cannot enter if you have dignity and you cannot leave with your reputation.
Beau Buehler Basically they can't exist due to entropy, or if they could could it's only for a very very very short time before exploding and only did a temporary statistical anomaly in a specified region. But they are interesting nevertheless because they obey general relativity and some hypothesize that something similar to a white hole (albeit very briefly) was related to the creation of our universe. Heavy Disclaimer: Not a physicist.
From the perspective of inside a black or white hole, wouldn't the singularity be "everywhere"? My point being, if we were inside a black hole in another universe and the big bang is a white hole (Simply a black hole viewed from the inside) like the video put forward, then wouldn't what appears as a singularity from the outside be what we perceive as "everywhere" from the inside? If that's the case, then there really is no difference between the big bang and a white hole.
Raymond Cuenen I know a girl and the Peppermint Rhino that does a trick called the "white fountain" maybe she trademarked it so that's why they can't use it. But one has to do with science and the other with ping pong balls so it might be able to be contested in court.
Since the arrow of time points into the future, white holes can't exist. Reverse the arrow, and black holes could not exist. Essentially, every black hole is a white hole waiting for the arrow of time to reverse. (Which probably can't happen.) If it did, every white hole would become a black hole if time were reversed. In other words, both can't exist in the same universe.
Given the time reversed black hole definition, I would say that conservation or energy isn't violated, because everything ejected by a white hole would be absorbed by its future black hole. In theory this could solve the information paradox, as well, if we say that the sum of information in our universe, the parallel universe, the black hole and the white hole is constant. This is, of course, only if white holes exist
"it sounds strange but it gets stranger" describes all of your videos :))
loving it!
The penrose diagram is my favourite recurring character on space time. After seeing it on at least 3 episodes so far, I'm understanding it better each time :D
Me too
Same I think I get it now
The Penrose Diagram:
_PROOF_ that The _MAP_ is NOT the _MOUNTAIN_ .
Stick until the end... the arc until the season finale is amazing
Please make a video on April fools day where you talk about something completely absurd, but in a very confident way like you do here.
April Fools
Maybe one in which he talks about pop music.
I see no difference
that's what he literally did
@@boris2342 when
As someone said before, if you're ever feeling too smart, humble yourself with one of these videos.
Only dumb people ever feel too smart 😛
I like that people do constantly tell him hes wrong ( and he could be about things ) but clearly he knows what he is talking about.
Then again Neil Degrass Tyson has be scrutinized too. I think the only one no one touches is Michio Ikaku lol.
Also to understand the diagram, i would look at the video talking about light actually seen inside a black hole recently, suggesting parallel universes where white holes exist.
That is a good wisdom
Well, we can see a black hole, weirdly, because we can see the light bending around it; we see it as it's effect on things we know how to see. A theoretical white hole doesn't necessarily have to constantly radiate light - perhaps it is also black. Perhaps light external to the white whole interacts with it in a way we cannot see it. We had to understand what a black hole was before we could see one, probably the same is true for a white hole. There may be qualities of a white hole that we have yet to understand, and until we know what to look for we won't be able to catch one.
In this parallel spacetime region in the other side of the penrose diagram, there is a PBS Spacetime, where this video is about black holes.
Actually more of a SBP TimeSpace.
Lucifer: It's not inside the black hole, nor inside the white hole, but at the other side of the Penrose diagram, in the parallel space-time to our own. Also there are probably infintely infinites many of them. Scary!
Astrophysics Peter Dinklage’s voice is very calming
he got too close to a black hole and the stretch turned him back to regular size. edit: i cant type lol
Bro, I was like, is something wrong with this dude's head or body? WTF
He's been SPAGHETTIFIED!!!!!
@@OphidianEy3 imma be real, i don't swing that way, but Dowd has a voice and face made for Space Documentaries. who says nerds have to be neckbeards????
ah, conforming the Dinklage law of social physics: the shorter the king the higher the crown *adjusts phd* honhonhon
When the Penrose diagram came up I officially lost the plot lol
They will discuss it in a past episode of space-time.
I reversed causality in the last statement, but I didn't reverse time, so you can check them out.
Yup, like put down the bong Penrose and get back to work!
Also, shut up physics, you’re drunk.
those diagrams appear really complicated without much expounding. he should do an episode on how to interpret them
@@pacotaco1246 Like I will say in a past comment, he will do it in past episode, check it out!
Indeed-
The Penrose Diagram: PROOF that The _Map_ is NOT The _Mountain_ .
If a white hole ejects matter, what determines the direction in which the matter comes out? If it's something about position within the white hole, then what if you place an elementary particle, like a photon, in the exact center of the white hole, then will it still come out?
Thank you for giving subtitles guys, really appreciate it. Cause some channels even disable auto-subtitles and it really makes a difference
Who else was acting like they understood what he was talking about but was completely confused at the diagram part
FaZe Memes i stopped understanding when the lines on the diagram weren’t straight
*raises hand*
Nobody understands what he's talking about except for the scientists who theorize it
Only people who understand are people that don’t have the name of “FaZe Memes”.
I feel called out.
I wish I could live long enough to see physicists work more of this kind of stuff out.
@@fckstreetshitters4294 jan gya beta kis hram ki olad ho😆
This is what bums me out about dying, all the sweet sweet info i miss out on😢
Four years after its release - I continue to love watching this episode… encouraged by all the current quests of science to explain white holes. I continue to, using my minuscule physics background, ponder the possibility of white holes (using Penrose diagrams and Schwartzshield metrics). Math May claim it’s “possible” however I can’t wrap my head around the possibility due to the second law of thermodynamics. Some theorize that white hole may originate at the singularity of a black hole, how can the gravitational force immediately convert to a repulsive force. I have concluded that a while hole is “possible” however, only at the merger/impact of two universes (M theory) 😉 Thank you Matt for the infinite knowledge provided. Cheers
White holes , black holes, release, where am i
Entropy only has to increase in a closed system. We have no way of knowing if anything outside of the observable universe is a closed system.
Nor do we know for certain that entropy will always flow in the same direction within our universe. For all we know, entropy could fluctuate back and forth like a sine wave but that phenominon would only be observable from a perspectice seperated from the flow of time as we know it.
aFuturnaught Isn’t that a meaningless argument though? If the existence of something, anything really, is so outside our perspective as to be impossible to perceive and thus has no impact or bearing, then for all intents and purposes, it does not exist and is ultimately irrelevant to our laws. We can only create hypothesis and theories based on things we can observe, directly, indirectly, mathematically, etc.
You could argue the whole ‘does a falling tree make a sound if no one is there to hear.’ But we know the answer because we know how sound works. If something is so far removed from us that we cannot ever interact with it, it might as well not exist.
Bruno Pereira Yes, it is a very simple concept. Yet, that doesn’t fit here.
If you cannot prove that a system exists, because it is literally outside of our perception/reality, then you can only continue to operate on the premise that it doesn’t exist. I mean you can BELIEVE that it exists all you want but, like Religion, that doesn’t make it real or even useable. You either work with what you have in front of you or you don’t.
Bruno Pereira No that isn’t what I’m saying at all. If the system has ZERO affect on us or anything that we can observe in this universe or ANY other framework of a reality that we can interact with, then why would we waste time trying to prove such a system exists?
I can say that outside of our observable universe, you can destroy/create energy. In our observable universe that isn’t true so changing the laws to accommodate the opposite isn’t going to help at all.
There is no bias. I’m not saying it simply cannot exist, but if we cannot interact with it and it cannot be observed then we cannot formulate anything that takes it into consideration.
Bruno Pereira I did not say that you said we should waste time nor was I trying to imply that you did. In fact, I did. Because I think it would be a waste of limited time and resources.
Also, the guy that I was replying to essentially said, in a way, that we couldn’t when he said that the phenomenon could only be observed from a perspective outside the flow of time as we know it.
That is, in essence, outside of our reality as we are governed by the flow of time as we do currently know it.
Also I sense there is a mild misunderstanding in what I am trying to say. I’ll try to state it more clearly with what I am assuming you think I am trying to say and what I am trying to say:
“If it is outside our reality, our observable universe, it cannot exist as it exist outside our laws.”
“If we cannot observe something because it is outside of our observable universe, then we operate as if it doesn’t exist until otherwise.”
I’m of the 2nd mindset. Why waste time and resources chasing something that has no evidence of existence? Now obviously the KEY note is something with no evidence can just be hidden in the math but usually there is something that hints at it. That is not what we are talking about that. Something completely outside our observable reality which has no impact or effect on us is a fool’s errand.
Back in the 70's, I remember hearing theories that Quasars were white holes. That was before we realized that they were black holes at the center of galaxies.
Nature is fractal. Nothing is really forever. Every system is stable until a certain level of energy. After will arrive instability. A change, and another time stability. And things repeat forever. So, at the moment there is something we can't observe at our scale. And is difficult to find explanations to process we can't observe directly.
Then we need to construct (I hope) working model try to explain what we cannot do now.
So quasars are not strongest source of energy?
@@divyangverma9880 the strongest source of energy is the universe, as it holds all energy that cannot be destroyed.
Yeah, whenever I'm watching these amazing space videos sometimes I just wonder "but where could I get an attorney? 🤔"
Analytics is doing its job!
Legalzoom got you 😂
Lol
As soon as I saw the half-filled penrose field, I saw the implications for white holes to be both star-like (the past of black holes) and like the Big Bang. It also seemed like, if we had a magical ship, we could enter the black hole and exit in the white hole, making it a form of one-way time travel. It could also be that every black hole has an exit as a white hole in a new universe. I think that could be plausible.
Who needs drugs when you've got this stuff?
made my day!
Doing drugs while watching this stuff.....
Ebiru2387 way ahead of you
You may need drugs to really grasp this stuff... Ask Carl Sagan the marijuano.
yea but combine the 2 like me atm and boom, mind blown lol
The smarter we get, the more we realise how dumb we actually are
That does not make any sense
The smarter we get the more we realise we don’t know / understand. That’s what it should say.
The smarter we get the more we notice we have to learn more? Lol
I worded this poorly, but you get the point I'm making right?
Thats just relativity my friend
Wouldn’t the event horizon appear as a “white hole” type boundary to an observer on the interior of the black hole?
@Angelo Ferreira This ignores the possibility that they came into existence on the inside of the interior, like maybe us. This, I think would fit best with one of my favorite theories: Quantum Darwinism. I usually think about the version of quantum darwinism that allows other versions of Conway's game of life to be played out on differing systems, not strictly the field dimensions and relational data our local universe uses. In context with the black hole interior acting like a matter fountain for our universe, as some form of white hole or white hole cousin for reasons we don't yet understand... just think of them as singularities, and start presuming that singularities are just the natural cellular element that allows for vastly different internal and external 'spatial' relationships. (or properties of locality/nonlocality in qm) in that realm, particles and universes would be a constant emulation of cellular automata that dance out as our experiences of particles: ('particle pixels' 'multicellular quasiparticle life') in universe: ('white hole' 'birthing white hole like structures inside itself in the form of black holes').
which would make crossing into a gravitational singularity the final boss of being single-universe entropy-bound lifeform.
@Angelo Ferreira - That aside, I think the question's reasonable, tho.
@@betterlifeexe - Describing existence, and making good use of flow of Entropy in the process. Well done - and Interesting ! .Balancing positive and negative (from OUR point of view - "frame of reference" depending on which side of the Black/White hole your Universe originated. Matter vs. Anti-Matter (again - depending ... ) ? HHhhmm.... MIGHT be connected somehow with the M/A-M disparity we observe on _THIS_ side of existence.
Btw- sounds like an EXCELLENT Story Premise 👍 , to me !
@@chuckintexas I love the idea of matter-antimatter 'shells'. Perhaps some fractal 'gene-like' pattern gets imperfectly copied and mirrored into new universes, but with opposite matter-'ness' instead of handedness. the black-white hole duality might end up just being a more generalized description of a cellular membrane in a live system that we are to ignorant and young to understand. what I mean to say is, physics may become generalized biology. (in this model)
Pulls out Penrose diagram.
Me: aight I'm out.
Indeed-
The Penrose Diagram: PROOF that The _Map_ is NOT The _Mountain_ .
_When will this be patched?_
Lmao this just made my night 😭😭😂
It's now a feature and not a bug.
2 months..
It's cut content but it's still in the code, and in-game text occasionally references it
Tuesday
Does the concept of "everywhere" make any sense at inception of universe? I.e., what's the difference between a singularity and "everywhere" if there is no space or time yet?
Joshua Augustus Bacigalupi nothing was never anywhere. That's why it's been everywhere. It been so everywhere, you don't need a "where." You don't even need a "when."
That's how "every" it gets.
Exactly
Joshua Augustus Bacigalupi As much as the concept of longitude does in the Poles
It's quite technical: you need to trap all worldlines in a 'Cauchy' sense inside a surface to have a singularity. If the primordial egg doesn't contain one, theoretically we could 'bounce' off it (weird, huh?)
I think we are not supposed to understand that yet, is like if we tried to explain the solar system to a caveman
Well for one thing the big bang doesn't necessarily suggest the beginning of space and time, in some models it does but not in others. The math behind it can get a bit head-ache inducing but the difference is like that between dividing one by zero (Singularity) and having an infinitely small number. (Big bang)
A big bang that was a singularity,in the sense of a black or white hole doesn't work since it is a center. What it would produce would also have a center from which everything would originate (and in some cases wouldn't produce anything at all. Why would the center of a black hole expand for example.)
It's a subtle difference that's hard to explain, but it's an important one.
"The Way To Create A Black Hole,Is to Reverse ENTROPY..."
My Brain: *YPORTNE*
Edit: 390 likes??? oh. thanks guys. i can't believe that this is from 9 Month ago...
Genius!
White's and black hole's are voids
Dumb way to pronounce it but okay
😂😂😂😂😂 Love it!
You've killed us all!!!
I love this content, it’s so easy to understand and it makes sense. This is one of my favorite channels
If PBS got translators for more languages such as Spanish, this channel would grow even more. Greetings from Chile :D
TheWoldIsFullofSheep EducateYourselfDontBeOne what if they don't live in America or England
TheWoldIsFullofSheep EducateYourselfDontBeOne wow you are so damn ignorant. I didn't know people like you lived. And why saying they are lazy? You judge so fast. Get a life dude.
You know, I always thought I had my head around the core concepts of relativity, space time, black holes and the likes. Until I watched this video. I got a lot more learning to do.
Thanks a lot PBS Spacetime
Taking your meaning AND your intent 👍 seems they ALL do. Never forget this thousands-year old TRUTH:
The MAP is _NOT_ the _MOUNTAIN_ .
_ALL_ the BEST -
C.
This bloke is brilliant. Thanks for making these tremendous videos mate. Should be required learning for all kids. Cheers.
Nothing can be faster than light
Blackholes: let us introduce ourselves
Nothing can travel through space faster than light. However, Universal Expansion has to travel faster than light. I believe that Dark Matter and Dark Energy are a 'visual' to Universal Expansion. I use 'visual' very weakly. We see nothing but empty black, just like a Black Hole. We only see the surrounding causal events,
You've obviously never had ""Super-Diarrhea""!!
@@neillpriest-fletcher1252 You're right, nothing can travel FTL through space. But the speed of light can be beaten. Like you said "Universal expansion" is one means. Quantum entanglement is another thing that is FTL, at least 10 to the 4th power faster, possibly instantaneous. Though visibly, physically observing and measuring both of these is difficult. Though an observable, measurable earthbound FTL also exists, in the form of Cherenkov radiation. Certain charged particles can pass through a dielectric medium faster than 186,292 mps (not sure by how much). But in doing so a blue (Cherenkov light) glow is emitted. It's basically the visual/speed of light equivalent of a sonic boom occuring when the sound barrier is broken.
I'm kind of curious about gravity and FTL. Gravity, or its effects at least, move at light speed. But as it's a force (no matter/particles), it doens't have those constraints. The studies and research in to this topic following Newtons laws, Einsteins General relativity theory and others is really interesting; although testing such ideas is complex considering you'd really need something with a much higher gravitational force than our sun gives off!
I'm also curious about whether the universe possibly spinning contributing to the universal expansion speeds. Moving your finger through 90''' in one second covers a distance of 15cms-ish. If your (unbreakable, unbendable) finger was a light second long (187,000 miles) and you were still able to move it through 90'', the end of your finger would have to travel much farther than a light second in a second; therefore FTL. Could use the same idea except with a spinning rope. 1rpm might not seem much, but if that rope (or galactic filament) is long enough, distances require FTL speeds.
Higher dimensions (at least in my mind) may beat FTl as well. I think the above is it for FTL; well those and super-diarrhea!
Sorry about the length!
Chapter 2:
It was a dark, stormy night... jk lol :D
@@TheEyez187 IDK whatcha smoking there bud, but I like your theory, even if I don't understand much of it.
@@MarisZadinans It's possible that the smoke is coming from my own fried brain!?! :D
I think we're living in a white-hole. The continuous expansion of the universe, with distant parts of the universe expanding faster than the speed of light such that the light can never enter our field of view, certainly seems to support the idea.
Is it just me, or this guy's the magnified version of Tyrion Lanister?
Duy Son Nguyen More like Lord Farquad
@@11ambrose11 😂😂😂 yes, he too, and the way he present his speech has a Tyrion vibe to it
Hahaha
This sounds fake and why is it white in colour it's just a excuse for a opposite of a black hole. How does it eject stuff. Also he just says random long words to sound smart.
@@dylanprice1978 This is all highly theoretical and isn't meant to be an excuse for anything it's just a theory for an object that the math of Einsteins theory of relativity would allow. The chances of there actually being such an object are very slim.
Not everyone is interested in theoretical physics as it's nothing but a bunch of mind boggling equations but it has lead to the discovery of things like black holes and more importantly the creation of the quantum computer.
"Very rare reductions in entropy do happen, as long as globally, entropy increases on average." So, does this mean that in order to decrease the entropy in a particular area, the entropy of some other area in the universe has to increase more than the average? So that's why my room gets so messy all the time. There's someone out there arranging theirs!
Not really. The increase of entropy is not some "first principle" of the universe, but rather a statistical consequence of the ergodic principle and boundary conditions of your isolated system.
Now go tidy your room!
Disorder is a misleading characterization of entropy so I wouldn't get too hung up on it. A better explanation of entropy is that it's a measure of how many ways the energy of the system of interest can be distributed amongst the available energy configurations or "microstates". As was mentioned in the video, entropy can decrease, it just very rarely does and whatever system had decreasing entropy will quickly maximize its entropy since things want to maximize the number of ways energy can be spread out simply because there are far far more ways for energy to be spread out than to be localized. In some highly idealized cases, entropy can be decreased by doing work on the system but the system in its new state will still obtain the highest possible entropy it can have.
Entropy in a closed system can always decrease, it's just incredibly unlikely for it to happen.
Frank Schneider what if the big surprise is that the moment any extinction-level event hangs over us, one we can't control, some apparently external force, something "outside the system", intervenes.
;)
Give me some hard conclusive evidence for the existence of an "external force" from "outside the system" (e.g. the flying spaghetti monster) and we can talk, until then it doesn't exist, just like Santa and chem trails.
The speaker is very articulate and presents information in a concise manner
you lost me at 00:01
He lost me at 0:00
It had some really good information, but this narrator has an annoying voice... it sounds like he needs to yawn.
😂
he lost me at -13:27
He lost me at an infinite time in the future simaltaneously at an infinite time in the past.
Everything I know about Einstein-Rosen Bridges I learned from Jane Foster.
I learned from Crysis 3.
U mean queen amadala
Dr Rodney McKay touched on Einstein-Rosen Bridges.
Stargate here. :D
Thor Ragnarok. They travel through an Einstein-Rosen Bridge with a collapsing quasar, or something big and scary.
what if white holes are linked with black holes to form two ends of a warp tunnel/wormhole?
Isabella Evamara hey that’s my theory shush
When looking at a black hole's energies, you will see a structure that has no mirrored structure of energies.
What if a black hole and a white hole simultaneously exist in the same space?
With a black hole, the event horizon is the rim around a black hole that holds the matter that is still "trying to escape via gravitational slingshot" that can't.
But what about what can? Isn't it thrown away from the black hole as if repelled?
Daniel Evans you mean it acts just like how we observe it?
Then it's just a worm hole
He already mentioned that theory in the video
Thanks Matt for explaining the Penrose diagram. Nicely done.
So Hawking radiation is random virtual particle pairs spawning and taking away energy from a black hole, right? Does that mean hawking radiation of our mother-black hole, viewed in reverse, could be responsible for dark energy? Dark energy is just energy being added uniformly to our universe, after all. (Disclaimer: I also have no clue what I am talking about.)
Thanks for pointing that out! Although I have to admit I didn't get what he was saying, and baez himself says he doesn't know whether the pop-culture interpretation is even wrong.
Anyway something radiates at least, so the question still stands. Would you know anything about that by chance? Do the numbers check out?
yrusb, I meant that since black holes radiate away energy, and our universe might have been caused by a white hole (which is a black hole with time reversed), maybe our "mother-black hole" radiating away mass could cause dark energy when viewed in reverse. I wasn't talking about the black holes in our universe, but I'll quickly edit that in
I don't know, that's why I'm asking. Since my question seems to be obviously stupid, let me ask another one, so maybe I can understand: What effect does hawking-radiation have on white holes? What effect does hawking-radiation have on the hypothetical baby-universes inside black holes?
Radiation due to observer disagreement also means nothing to me, sorry. :/
That makes sense, thanks!
I'm going to have to dive into some hawking radiation maths, it sounds super interesting.
negativlex32 Dude, since you seem to be on the know: from what I grasped from Hawking's paper, it's quantum scattering - and I'm always commenting in these terms. Anyway, reverse who is outgoing and incoming, get WH result?
Well, that was simple. If my science teacher had just put it THAT way, there'd have been no problem! Jeez.
I _KNOW_ , _RIGHT_ ??!!??
Indeed-
The Penrose Diagram: PROOF that The _Map_ is NOT The _Mountain_ .
Is it me or is he the exact mathematical oposite of Peter Dinklage?
So beyond those singularities, there's a universe where Peter Dinklage hosts this video while this guy is a star of an HBO show?
Lol
@@cuckoophendula8211 and everyone is short, but Tyrion is the tall one
LOL! You win!
The inverse of peter dinklage
"You'd need to reverse entropy"
... imma go clean my room
Its highly underrated
If Hawking radiation slowly leaks out of black holes is it possible for some form of energy to slowly enter a white hole?
Hawking radiation: Randomly, two virtual particles appear at the event horizon, one leaves and the other falls back in. Reversing it gives the exact same result.
I think like Liam but that way of thinking actually goes against what Hawking posited about black holes evaporation. I don't think they evaporate at all.
Slowly enter a white hole...intriguing
I am not a physicist, just a lover and admirer of science and physics as a whole. I don't really know if this pertains to the video really, but is it possible that white holes are at the edge of the universe? Redistributing and spreading matter from event horizons of black holes across the universe?. These white holes would be so immensely far away that the light emitting from them would be stretched and red shifted into almost nothingness. Could every black hole have a partner white hole? They would be intrinsically linked, almost like entangled particles, redistributing matter through a higher dimensional cosmic "chute" system? This probably sounds completely insane, but most of the commenters here seem like very smart people, and I would love to hear your take on this. Thank you!
This takes in to account that the universe has an actual "edge". And that white holes do in fact exist.
So black holes and white holes are just wormhole pairs.
Liam White Yeah.
More like the black holes feed back what the white hole/big bang spat out millennia ago.
It makes sense that the white hole is an exit of a black hole as everything has to have an opposite like jing and jang/black and white. If you go through one hole, you get out of another. Light has to escape somewhere, same with an object that gets sucked into one. What I want to know is what happens if you do go inside a black hole. Multiple youtubers says that you'd become spaghetti and die but I don't believe that in the slightest. Gravity is gravity, if you drop a rock on the moon, itll drop slowly to the ground. If you drop a rock at mars, it'd drop faster and on earth the fastest. It wouldn't stretch or bend, just accelerate faster towards the ground. Meaning in reality that if you fall into a black hole, you'd just fall faster the further you go in the event horizon, sure you'd probably go unconscious because of all the blood going to the feet or if ur falling, all ur blood go into ur head. But you wouldn't die though.
I feel like I learn something, but I don’t know what I learn.
Indeed-
The Penrose Diagram: PROOF that The _Map_ is NOT The _Mountain_ .
@@chuckintexas RANDOM Question cause Randomness makes life spicey:
Do you know Sci Man Dan?
Oversimplified?
Hbomberguy?
Bluejay?
@@loturzelrestaurant - Nope.
Enlighten us ALL ?
Thanks !
@@chuckintexas Nothing to enlighten here,
i just have the (arguably silly) Hobby of recommending Science-UA-camr to people i know like science cause they are in comment-sections-of-science.
@@chuckintexas Mind if i do; to spread Education cause why not?
Matt, I have one word for you on this subject (and I might have said it before, but I'll repeat it anyway): Alice-Through-the-Looking-Glass (1 word). "The looking-glass" part refers to distant singularity; Alice has her life partner (the counter-part) Bob; Alice implies Bob (and vice versa); "Alice" part is consciousness, "Bob" is (pure) information (in this metaphor), and the preposition implies point reflection. White hole is "information dual" of a black hole, and the artifact (one among the many) arises from GR only because physics doesn't treat the (purely digital) information properly. Note: This is fast-publishing thought, so it might be amended in the future…
“So what is it?”
“I’m not sure, no one is but I’m guessing it’s a white hole.”
Is that thing spewing time back into the universe?
Precisely, that's why we're experiencing these curious time phenomena on board.
@@RadioactiveChannel06 So, what is it?
@@talltroll7092 “I’m not sure, no one is but I’m guessing it’s a white hole.”
A _white_ hole?
void (infinite space, no time) black hole (no space, infinite time)
*Dr. Strange has entered the chat*
dormamu wants to exit the chat
@Brad Watson a void is just empty space it is really not that spectacular
Also a black hole has no " "side" cause it is a former star.
3:53 POKEBALL
sorry, I'm paying attention, honest!
Yes. At cern I know some Pokémons playing with bosons..
That’s Just Racict..
Singularizard: A Pokémon with gravity so strong, nothing escapes it, not even light.
“Singularizard! Use gravity well! Oh shi....*”
I wanted to get mind fkd so I came here, it always works. Have no idea what’s going on man, keep it up 👍 😂
I googled this and the search result and it was evident that my content filter was off.
lmao dude..
Yikes!
The Cat: So, what is it?
Kryten: I've never seen one before - no one has - but I'm guessing it's a white hole.
Rimmer: A *white* hole?
Kryten: Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. A black hole sucks time and matter out of the Universe; a white hole returns it.
Lister: So, that thing's spewing time...
Lister: [donning his fur-lined hat] ... back into the Universe?
Kryten: Precisely. That's why we're experiencing these curious time phenomena on board.
The Cat: So, what is it?
We don't want muffins, no toast, buns, baps, bagets or bagels, no croissants, no crumpets, no teacakes, no potato cakes and no hot cross buns! And definitely no smegging flapjacks!
If white holes are opposite ofblack holes can it be possible the universe is in time loop of black hole and white hole where al the matter entering blackhole exits at start of time and cycle continues, this happens eternally , and every blackhole creates a white hole at beginninh of time,and because of it ,it is not possible to enter white hole or exit black hole as the matter is stuck in time loop eternally
I think this is what defines infinity. It makes sense since it obeys the most elementary rule of energy that energy is neither created not destroyed it's just recycled forever.
Even black holes die my dude.
@@MrSomeRedditor yes, but only after it has already absorbed matter. If the 2 universe theory is in place, this would be ejected into the second universe through a white hole, where this mass would once again be able to become dense enough to form another black hole, therefore continuing the loop
I don’t know I’m just trying to figure out what I’m having for lunch.
Yes!!! It is possible but im no scientist or mathematician or ejumacated soooo.....
This video makes me feel like I'm really really smart... Wish I was able to understand it
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What would happen if a White Hole and a Black Hole Collide?
Polintalu an unstoppable force would literally meet an immovable object.
I think he universe’s credits would roll and we’d have to start the New Universe +
Nothing would happen. Its basically the same as 2 magnets. One attracts and one does the opposite. If you put them together, they don't touch because when the one that attracts wants to take the other magnet, the other magnet pushes it away. So if they met, nothing would happen, they'd just become neighbors to each other.
Polintalu, I think that the black hole would absorb the white hole.
The black hole gets on welfare and protests the white hole
star man i’m so tired of’em, aint you?
Holy crap you guys are almost to 1M subs, that's nuts.
People haven't really 'had enough of experts' thankfully :)
Tyler Harris there are other PBS channels to. Like Eons.
Steven Baumann just started watching that-while it's not quite so detailed as this show I still found it really interesting
It's good content.
But it's also really advanced content. It has a level of detail and depth greater than most stuff made for the common masses. So it makes sense that it's really popular with people who appreciate such content.
Teethgrinder 83 I didn't say it wasn't interesting. I just haven't seen it in like 20 years.
So what you're saying is Doc was right when he said the DeLorean had to go faster to go back in time? Great Scott! Doc was a genius!
Of course. Got to compensate for that final oumph required to hit infinity. A flux capacitor can only do so much.
the special effects in these videos are amazing
I was suffering from insomnia till I discovered this channel. Now I get to sleep in the middle of his every video.
FTW?😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Everything that goes into a black hole travels in time to the beginning of the universe.
The only white hole we know of was the big bang itself.
This is why all the information seems lost and it is impossible to see through a black hole.
Even light is sucked into the distant past of the universe to meet the singularity of the beginning of time, the big bang white hole.
And that's why everything is connected, past, present and future are consequences of each other.
Okay...
Where's the math now?
I said MATH, not METH!
Big bang, white hole
@Bruno Pereira i believe there is something there it's just that light can't get away from it to reach your eyes. so the event horizon looks black. it might be the size of a football or something. the mass of a few suns compressed to a soccer ball.
i don't thin they mean an actual hole in space. we simply can never see the object from the outside because of its gravity. but once you pass the event horizon its intense radiation will vaporize you.
I find it easier to think of it like the Ying Yang.
That's true
@@arihant_mate4359 why'd you say "that's true" it isn't true at all, you're just as thick as he is that's what's happened here.
@@jackwatson3944 okay bro
Isn't it Yin?
@SillySushi you just said "no one can confirm" yet he said "that's true" read the comments thoroughly thicko instead of trying to be the good guy.
This "other side" of the black/white hole is just part of our same universe. Remember there are actually 3 spatial dimension, not 1 as in the Penrose diagram. If the x axis is distance to the black hole center, you simply go around to the other side of the black hole.
this would actually hold with the theory of a multiverse
Yang mill missing Mass Could be "DARK ENERGY " Existing in a Space field as a vacuum like PARTICLE FIELD with Kahler like Metric Distributed in HILBERT SPACE and olny measurable when HILBERT ECLUDEIAN SPACE VECTOR INTERACTION is is Traced or Scaled into the RIEMANN METRIC then You get Gravity If the Einstein-Ricci Metric TENSOR with the RICCI NEGATIVE curvature VANISHING into the Hausdroff measure BY THIS ROTATION gauges the
PARTICLE FIELDS VECTOR basis from this TRANSFORMATION FUNCTION And get the WAVE FUNCTION and when these FIELD VECTOR is Reflected back into the LOCAL Gravitational force through RIEMANN metric TENSOR You get the RICC NEGATIVE CURVATURE FLOW Creating Massless particles like Gluons and photons particles Boson and its Intermediates elementary particles ELECTRON PROTONS
and NEUTRON thru Radioactive DECAY along with The 4 forces of Nature Of Time and 3 ADDITION DIMENSION OF SPACE and QUANTUM SPIN Being INTERGER and1/2 HALF INTERGER
The level of focus I show when trying to understand your videos would have been so useful at school.
Are whiteholes expected to grow over time due to reversed Hawking radiation?
TiagoTiago I don't think so. If they react in an opposite manner to black holes then they should shrink much faster.
At least, my reasoning is that blackhole's increase in mass relative to the amount of matter that crosses their event horizon. So in the case of white holes, only when the rate of reverse radiation has overtaken the rate at which matter exits.
That said, I still don't think they exist. Black holes aren't tunnels with an entrance and an exit. They're spherical singularities, and the entrance is their event horizon, which is a diameter around the central point.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No, white holes are tine-reversed eternal black holes, which don't have hawking radiation.
No nothing can enter a white holes event horizon, while nothing can leave a blacks holes event horizon. Meaning they cant grow with matter or energy form our universe, If i remember correctly hawking radiation is caused when a pair of virtual particles appears near the event horizon of a black hole, and one of the 2 opposite particles gets sucked in the other escapes. But i could be wrong its been some time since i brushed up on this stuff.
No, as in my post above they are really quite different beasties. Black holes are what happens when you put too much matter too close together. White holes are what happens when energy is added to spacetime from another brane through a collision.
They get less denser (shrinking) but expanse in universe. Big Bang.
I have been thinking, what if we are inside a whitehole? Heres the reason:
1. Whitehole event horizon is a line in space where nothing can get inside. Now let's change out perspective as if we are in the middle of whitehole. Then, the event horizon is a line in space surrounding us in which when something past that line, it never came back. And nothing beyond that line can get to us. Sound familiar? Its perfectly describe the line of observable universe. It seems like observable universe line is just whitehole event horizon inwards!
2. Black hole happen when mass put in very tiny space. Even the tiniest mass can become black hole if it is compressed and dense enough to become a black hole. Now let's imagine the opposite, what happen in a infinitely huge space (actually we currently do). The universe expansion takes over which made galaxies accelerating away from us which led to the observable universe line! Blackhole very small space, whitehole very huge place.
3. In the Penrose diagram, whitehole comes from the infinite past. Now imagine a spaceship at the edge of the observable universe. Since it is moving away from us close to the speed of light, we will observe as if time freeze on them. Infinite time will past on us for them to to experience even a second. It seems as if we are ourself the infinite past.
Makes me think about how it would be possible for the entire universe to happen by chance.
It works well as a solution to the impossible. We've even got scientists working on it. Time/space reversal engines and everything.
Well if they are real they shouldn't exist for a long time since they would run out of energy and material so they might have existed also it's not just possible that space was randomly created it was randomly created if it wasn't there would be life in a lot of solar systems if not in every planet.
Oh lol I meant to say impossible
Everything happened by chance. Ans science explains how all these things in the universe happened.
@@OfficialDenzy not well. And doesn’t answer fundamental questions with any tangible evidence, only hypotheticals.
White holes are way more hot.
But if you get close to them, you will probably get rejected.
Nameless Ghost *cringes*
*Holezoned* xD
I think I went out with that girl.
i am pretty sure when you go close to white hole it would be like swimming up stream
space that it push out would be more faster than you can go
good one
11:10 If a black hole is the big bang of a new baby universe , and our universe was formed the same way , then this is like the the chicken and the egg problem , which came first ? the black hole or the universe ?
Zahir khan Oddly enough it's possible that neither chicken or egg came first. A black hole in our universe could create a new universe that ends up having a black hole that in turn creates our universe.
Or the universe was already here, but a black hole only created what we see in our slice of the universe.
Zahir khan Its possible there is no first or last. Remember, time gets fucked inside (and near) black holes. Thinking about these things is bound to make anyone's head hurt.
Dinosaurs laid eggs long before chickens, if there was a first chicken by mutation, it occurred in an egg. Simple. Also time is an illusion experienced by particles within it while it's likely all states of all universes exist statically and eternally. Thus there is no beginning or end, just looks like it from a particles perspective. Both the universe we see and any precursor exist simultaneously.
I think the black hole (or a singularity) can come first via quantum fluctuations.
A superb introduction to the concept. Thanks. White holes are rarely ever discussed.
That physicist's (11:08) revelation was also something I came up with about 7 years ago while very high, despite having no education in the field, only a fascination with black holes and an interest in possibilities.
Same.
That moment you realize you typed your search term into UA-cam, not YouPorn.
New Message I'm gonna need that search term. For science.
Should still deliver the same results
Literally LOL'd
If you type "the big bang" into a UA-cam search box, you get something like Space Time. On YouPorn, well, I think you'd get something different.
... Yeah, "black holes" and "white holes" - different results.
i was wondering if white holes could just be the antimatter equivalent of black holes, because if consider antimatter as matter with backwards flowing time, then from the perspective of the white holes, stuff goes out of it
The special effects sounds for the visual animations are taken.directly from Star Trek. Nice touch.
"the universe hasn't existed for eternity" made my stomach hurt lol
I do hope i have fellow Red Dwarf fans here..
"So what is it?"
Only joking
A _white_ hole?
JustAnotherYorkshireman I’ve never seen one before no one has but I’m guessing it’s a white hole
@@alexlong9107 But what is it?
Who re I’ve never seen one before and no one has but I’m guessing it’s a white hole
Wouldn't the universe outside a black hole resemble a white hole from the frame of reference of anything inside it's event horizon?
I also thought exactly the same thing. Everything in universe minus black holes satisfy the verbal description of a white hole.
Everything in a white hole must eventually be emitted, everything in the universe will probably not all fall into a black hole 🤔
@@comodojoe59 It might. In a big rip scenario, all black hole event horizons will eventually merge with their cosmological horizons.
The opposite of the cosmic event horizon in a rapidly expanding black universe... A white universe 😁
That end part is so scary - imagine falling into a black hole full of attorneys.
Peter Dinklage lost me at "White Hole Event Horizon"!!! WTF?!?!
"The White Hole" is what they used to call me in high school
That's common
If White Holes exist wouldn't they make a fantastic source of energy?
why?
Duh
Hayden Kerans why
@@Majestic469 because they're the opposite of black holes. If we could harness their everlasting explosion of radiation, that's energy to last far more lives than the sun. It's just solar energy.
you're right, there's probably of lot of crude oil in these holes, come on america, lets dig the shit out of them!
I am planning on building a reverse entropy device for manipulating gravity. It sounds incredibly like the description of the white hole you gave. One of the things I am worried about is that snap back of energy you are talking about. Incredible you mentioned that. One day soon you'll be talking about my GMD (gravitational manipulation device). It's based very closely on GR. This new theory I'm working on will hopefully break us into the gravity age. The only thing I have done is redefined mass as a force instead of the amount of matter. Mass is only exhibited in matter because of the movement of the energy within its particles vibrating voids into the fabric of space with resonant frequencies, which is what matter is after all. The opposite force of mass from space pushes those voids together, aka gravity.
Space is the solid matrix. Energy is the fluid, and matter is standing waves, or bubbles, in the matrix. The trinity is the universe.
Did it work?
before watching this video: I'am gonna learn about white holes.
2 minutes later: I doubt If I have duck's brain.
The lack of white holes might have something to do with the 1 directional flow of time
Maybe?
Maybe our universe is in a white hole
Maybe viewed backwards black holes are white holes and we are just viewing time wrong. We are really going "backwards"
Time and light can only flow away from white holes so they can only exist hidden in our past and probably impossible to observe in the present.
What about entropy?
White hole: *pushing things away*
The introvert
Black hole: *pulling things in*
The extrovert
Lololololol!!! I literally concluded this watching a video on white holes... I made a massive comment on my theory and everything. Then I get this in my feed less than a week later. I'mma keep telling myself it was my idea, helps with my insecurity.
Mine was nearly the same, except where and precisely what a white hole is. Here's the very short version: a blackholes causes space and time to switch places. More precisely that space loses all degrees of freedom and has directionality... the arrow of space I guess? Causality breaks down (kinda), meaning time becomes an axis of freedom.
One other thing to point out is that a black hole's event horizon is a boundary is space, but it can still move freely through space.
If a white hole is the opposite of a blackhole then it would undergo the same process... but in reverse. In other words it would be a boundary in time, transversal by you temporal degree of freedom. Space would also go from being an arrow to, well, space. I need to empathize the space swapping: backwards is the same concept as yesterday.
Well from that it seems a whitehole is the inner boundary of a blackhole. It can be traversed by reversing your experience of time, perfectly doable... not quite sure how. Once you preceded your own entry your energy would have to leave, but its decoupled from time. Just as space goes from free to rigid so would time.
Lastly I think it reasonable to assume that matter cannot enter a blackhole, only it's energy. Almost like a ripple of information. As I see it there are two ways to reverse this. Firstly a particle could leave, but decoupled with time... any time becomes possible and it would be annihilation products. Secondly it could maintain its space related tomfoolery, adding energy to spacetime.
I like the way you think.
"So what is it?" "Oh somebody punch him out!"
Only joking!
I've never seen one before. No one has. But I'm guessing it's a white hole.
Ah the “Big Recycle”. I always wondered if this was the answer to our universe!
Nic Neame -The "answer to our universe" is 42. The cause or origin of our universe may well have been a black hole to white hole universe.
The white hole could also help explain why the universe didn't instantly turn into a black hole when it formed. It's forcefully ejecting all of the matter in existence. This could not have possibly have happened instantly or the story would be that we are shrinking instead of the universe expanding. The question to ask is what would happen if a white hole were to form from inside a black hole. This is paradoxical because a white hole cannot allow things to enter while a black hole cannot allow things to exit. In order to resolve this, it expands space. Does space expand locally or "globally"? Because if it expands globally, then there is no friction to slow down the expansion. Like how if you were to throw a ball in space it would just keep floating forever. The universe may just exist in that space between two event horizons that have opposing rules.
It is entirely possible that when all of existence was created by a white hole, after the white hole collapsed, then that universe simply formed a black hole. Then by random chance, when a new white hole formed, it formed inside a black hole. This could be how the universe as we know it came into existence. To end it off, I would like to say that perhaps a white hole is supposed to form within a black hole because since time is relative, you are more likely to encounter a white hole if your time moves slower.
also, a black hole being a singularity... shouldn't it have less entropy?
You require mass and gravity to form a black hole. At the big bang, the energy of the universe was too high for the fundamental forces to solidify. Assuming gravity is also such a force, then there wasn't any gravitational field so matter would not attract each other. There also wasn't any Higgs field so particles wouldn't have mass.
"The white hole could also help explain why the universe didn't instantly turn into a black hole when it formed." - there was No matter, to begin with; just sub-atomic particles and "space time".
Sub-atomic particles are also matter, just because they are sub-atomic does not means they are not affected by gravity. But in the early states of the universe there is another reason why it didnt collapse into a black hole, the matter has almost the same density everywhere, even with the matter of gallaxies in the space of one proton every point of space has almost the same amount of matter, the gravity net efect from all points of space is zero in that situation. There must be differents of density in the earlier universe, but just enought to make matter collpase to start to form galaxies after some thousands of years, it would need a bigger density difference to make all universe collpase into a giant black hole
"The white hole could also help explain why the universe didn't instantly turn into a black hole when it formed."
The opposite is actually true. Matter expelled from a White Hole would collapse back into a Black Hole because of self-gravity.
i like both holes. Its good to check both options.
It’s hard to describe what I feel whenever I
Look at this guy talking
now imagine being him
Next video: Brown holes
4:35, so far so good
4:40, oh no
When watching your video with lots of interest, I realize I am not as smart as I thought. My brain has melted.
what if a grey hole existed?
like, you can't get in or out of it?
i think it's a cool idea.
That's most likely a singularity
Mikestion -A grey hole does exist. It's called "Donald Trump's White House". You cannot enter if you have dignity and you cannot leave with your reputation.
arthurneddysmith do you really have to bring politics into everything man?
I didnt get it...
Same
simply put:white holes cant mathematicallyincrease due to reducing entropy, something impossible.
brasil HUE Impossible to our understanding of physics on our planet, yes. Doesn't mean it's entirely impossible though.
Beau Buehler, in short it is about the BHLM movement.
#blackholelivesmatter
Beau Buehler Basically they can't exist due to entropy, or if they could could it's only for a very very very short time before exploding and only did a temporary statistical anomaly in a specified region.
But they are interesting nevertheless because they obey general relativity and some hypothesize that something similar to a white hole (albeit very briefly) was related to the creation of our universe.
Heavy Disclaimer: Not a physicist.
So, what is it?
Somebody punch him out. :p
Danny Vasquez nooooo way. I cannot believe it. Another Red Dwarf fan!!!!
So what is it?.....only joking.
smeg
Wait a minute....I missed the discussion!
Thanks to the legalzoom plug at the end, I understood some of this video.
Lol
From the perspective of inside a black or white hole, wouldn't the singularity be "everywhere"? My point being, if we were inside a black hole in another universe and the big bang is a white hole (Simply a black hole viewed from the inside) like the video put forward, then wouldn't what appears as a singularity from the outside be what we perceive as "everywhere" from the inside? If that's the case, then there really is no difference between the big bang and a white hole.
Everywhere in the past. In the future what is everywhere is the event horizon.
Should the opposite of a "black hole" not be called a "white fountain", since nothing can go in but everything is ejected out
Raymond Cuenen I know a girl and the Peppermint Rhino that does a trick called the "white fountain" maybe she trademarked it so that's why they can't use it. But one has to do with science and the other with ping pong balls so it might be able to be contested in court.
Surely the opposite of a black hole is just a star. Produces light and you can't go in
you can go into a star
+Lone Wolf The outer shell regions of a star are not very dense, albeit hot. If properly isolated you can place a craft there.
Jacob Carolan it's not as simple as that. The required gravitational phenomena don't exist around a star
Since the arrow of time points into the future, white holes can't exist. Reverse the arrow, and black holes could not exist. Essentially, every black hole is a white hole waiting for the arrow of time to reverse. (Which probably can't happen.) If it did, every white hole would become a black hole if time were reversed.
In other words, both can't exist in the same universe.
HMMMMMMM
Charlie Horse that makes no sense. Wtf are you smoking lol
Yeah, I don’t believe the universe cares about your physics...
Technically the arrow of time points in all directions, not just the future.
Twat
If white holes continue release light , will it run dry? Should we take the conservation of energy into account?
Given the time reversed black hole definition, I would say that conservation or energy isn't violated, because everything ejected by a white hole would be absorbed by its future black hole. In theory this could solve the information paradox, as well, if we say that the sum of information in our universe, the parallel universe, the black hole and the white hole is constant. This is, of course, only if white holes exist