Playing the Hardest Character in Tekken as a Noob

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  • @TheMainManSWE
    @TheMainManSWE 11 місяців тому +2322

    Very patient and calculated gameplay considering the ranks. Well done!

    • @Megidolaon_
      @Megidolaon_ 11 місяців тому +225

      Thank you dad for encouraging the tekken youth.

    • @selmathers5830
      @selmathers5830 11 місяців тому +103

      Ayo no way MainMan himself is here sheesh

    • @kajetanmiliankovic3183
      @kajetanmiliankovic3183 11 місяців тому +18

      woah

    • @xbgsheikiii3593
      @xbgsheikiii3593 11 місяців тому +14

      Im in the early comments to witness this, what an honor 🙏

    • @Kyo_Of_Shadows
      @Kyo_Of_Shadows 11 місяців тому +22

      Now thats a masku moment

  • @flackos1567
    @flackos1567 11 місяців тому +770

    Yo wtf this is insane yesterday I just watched your 100 tekken games video and was like "damn I wish this guy did more tekken stuff" ty for this keep it up

    • @Berserkport7
      @Berserkport7 11 місяців тому +5

      Same

    • @GallagherSan
      @GallagherSan 11 місяців тому +5

      Merry christmas

    • @MishimaDate
      @MishimaDate 11 місяців тому

      Maibe one if jin kazama

    • @Sykamori
      @Sykamori 11 місяців тому +2

      He’s really good for how he’s thinking about the game

  • @TheOnlyPersona
    @TheOnlyPersona 11 місяців тому +504

    This series reinforces the more community “arcade” aspect of tekken being an integral part of the experience. A lot of tekken is “if you know, you know” but you need people to tell you!

    • @WeMissDimebag
      @WeMissDimebag 11 місяців тому +31

      Good news is they are adding a bunch of info into move lists and practice mode in T8 to help remove some of the mystery of learning the game

    • @agiyx8591
      @agiyx8591 11 місяців тому +20

      You just gotta hit the lab which the guy didnt do at all

    • @Crowbar
      @Crowbar 11 місяців тому +7

      ​@@WeMissDimebag also you can watch your replays and the game tells you how to react to moves you got him from, good stuff!

    • @felix5728
      @felix5728 11 місяців тому +3

      More importantly, if you want to know, ASK. Maybe it's because people are automatically in a competitive mindset that they feel afraid or ashamed to. Most people are more than happy to share knowledge, especially with newer players, as we love to see the community grow.
      An hour or two with that Fujin in a private match would've taught him just as much, though most likely much more, than those 100 matches.

    • @panikk2
      @panikk2 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@CrowbarI'm really looking forward to that part. As much as people would like to pretend the fgc is holding hands in harmony while you skip through fields learning, that's not and has never been the case. The less obtuse bullshit, the better period

  • @alphawolver
    @alphawolver 11 місяців тому +270

    I'm enjoying the Tekken content! You definitely improved noticeably by the end of the video; your movement was much better after you switched to the dpad, you were converting a lot more combos, applying the hellsweep mixup effectively, hit confirming 1,1,2 and just punishing things in general a lot more often.
    If I could give one general piece of advice, I'd say you're too eager to respond to things with attacks, and it gets you killed a lot, either because you get counter hit or you whiffed (extremely common among new players). Especially on wakeup, I think I lost count of the number of times you got counter hit doing a wakeup kick. It's even more dangerous when you're face down. Picking more defensive wakeup options like techrolling, holding back to get up backwards, staying down and/or siderolling, or just standing by pressing up (or d/b if you think they'll do a low) if you missed the techroll or can't techroll for whatever reason. Also maybe don't accept matches with wifi players, you saw how well that usually goes lol.
    Oh, and don't beat yourself up about not being able to react to Dragunov's low. Pretty much no one can, it's only 18 frames. General consensus is that moves become reactable when they're around 23 frames or slower (it can vary a little from person to person and depending on the move).
    That Lucky Chloe was definitely a smurf, btw.

  • @the_other_hiro3983
    @the_other_hiro3983 11 місяців тому +398

    That Chloe at 30:52 is ChaoticPerfection, Tekken God Prime Chloe who recently lost his rank data due to data corruption 😂

    • @bonfist7277
      @bonfist7277 11 місяців тому +19

      That sounds extremely convenient.

    • @bonfist7277
      @bonfist7277 11 місяців тому +53

      Also I am coming back because I realized, if they really lost their progress and wanted it back because of that, they wouldn’t be rematching against a 1st dan at 3rd dan, you don’t get much reward for it.
      He is doing it just to have fun punking people.

    • @kingsentertainment248
      @kingsentertainment248 11 місяців тому

      your saying that as if bro couldnt leave the match as well lol no one forced him to remtch 2,000 times lol@@bonfist7277

    • @samubertolotto
      @samubertolotto 11 місяців тому +9

      Maybe they saw a person that was trying to do something and learning how to counter so they sticked right there, I do this on my second account

    • @samubertolotto
      @samubertolotto 11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, way way too good even for blue rank

  • @MrNigel117
    @MrNigel117 11 місяців тому +447

    lmao that yoshi was hella funny. yoshi is probably one of the hardest characters to learn, he's got tons of stances, and so much weird stuff it's hard to retain everything you can do with him. he's really cool though

    • @dennisslobaton1539
      @dennisslobaton1539 11 місяців тому +62

      Almost every yoshi player learn their own combos that's why it's hard to play against yoshi in a ranked match because you don't know what to expect

    • @AeternumUnus
      @AeternumUnus 11 місяців тому +128

      I'm the Yoshimitsu Aeternum, Lol looking back at it, me doing seppuku looked like i was bming but... I wanted to not stomp him into the ground and keep him on me so he can keep learning since I spotted that he was new (he's played like me when I started playing. I played Heihachi back then so I saw similarities) and I was goofing off too, since domination on someone new isn't fun, and if it were me in his position, I'd be mad.

    • @hamidsafdar1219
      @hamidsafdar1219 11 місяців тому +43

      ​@@AeternumUnus bro ur so kind wth😭 we need more of this in the fighting community, its genuinely rare lmao

    • @randomlygeneratedorcname
      @randomlygeneratedorcname 11 місяців тому +37

      ​@@AeternumUnuswhat an actual king bro 😂

    • @flamingpaper7751
      @flamingpaper7751 11 місяців тому +18

      Bro was created with the question of "how much bullshit can we give a bad character before he becomes playable?"

  • @Elijah668
    @Elijah668 11 місяців тому +14

    that guy from game 11 and on for a bit, thats how you know someones playing to learn, they keep remaching and you keep learning from eachother i love it in fighting games.

  • @LordDarkDan
    @LordDarkDan 11 місяців тому +130

    Full props to you dood for trying to learn Tekken while also using Kazuya, Kaz is honestly Tekken in its purest form requiring heavy execution and knowledge. If you flop on either end its pain. At least if you intend to learn properly rather than just relying on vortex mixup which is deadly effective yet only carries so far if you go against someone able to move around as you discovered. Most of Kaz's moveset can be stepped/sidewalked to the left, making nearly all his key attacks useless if they do so at the right time.
    However! While its true Noctis and other characters are 'easier' to use. Honestly please don't feel pressured by people whining 'Oh its not true Tekken cause its too easy' Use who you want too and who feels the most fun to you. Tekken is arguably one of the hardest games to play in general and it sure helps with motivation if you enjoy using a character for whatever reason. So if in it for the long haul might as well do it with the character you like.
    Oh wait, I'm a Mishima player myself one second.....Ahem! I meant, goddammit man, you suck, you gotta spend hours learning to spam EWGF to git gud. All other characters are trash! :P

    • @Therodaas
      @Therodaas 11 місяців тому +9

      You had me in the beginning, but the final part redeemed the whole thing!

    • @Filterdeez
      @Filterdeez 11 місяців тому +1

      Kazuya is so brain dead wym😂 higher tiers only use his uf4 lol it's unreactable to a newbie like me

    • @Deathwindgames
      @Deathwindgames 11 місяців тому +5

      @@FilterdeezLOL. Great satire

    • @tableprinterdoor
      @tableprinterdoor 9 місяців тому

      @@Filterdeezjust block low or sidestep

  • @kySoLuni
    @kySoLuni 11 місяців тому +83

    it’s nice to watch someone genuinely enjoy the improvement process in tekken even going far enough to play one of the hardest characters.
    That being said I just want mention you played against a few smurfs. i haven’t seen it commented much at all, but it seemed like more smurfs than actual low levels lol. Not saying they were all pro players, but that Jin, Lars, Claudio, and Lucky Chloe were far above bottom 4 ranks .. You did really well at the end because you played against players way better than you for days(something most are unwilling to do) and finally played against some people as new as you. Just wanted to share. Genuine great video earned a like and a sub from me

    • @offbeatecho3057
      @offbeatecho3057 11 місяців тому +4

      Yeah tekken 7 low ranks are covered in smurfs now they're so common and they're honestly killing tekken cause they're making players not wanna play the game since getting past 1st Dan is impossible if your unlucky

    • @5higuy
      @5higuy 10 місяців тому +1

      Chloe was a tekken god prime who lost all their data

  • @takarin64
    @takarin64 11 місяців тому +16

    Really enjoyed seeing your Kazuya game plan slowly getting more optimal. The way you naturally started mixing Hellsweeps and FF3's on oki is actually very satisfying and interesting to watch!

  • @Jamal0602
    @Jamal0602 11 місяців тому +124

    One thing to remember. Do not let people decide your main. It doesn't matter if your character is hard or easy as long as you having fun.
    Also yes i dont recommend using hard characters to learn tekken. Characters that are easy may teach you more stuff because you can execute their moves, combos, punishes. But if you're okay with it its fine.

    • @ClutchClick
      @ClutchClick 11 місяців тому +1

      @phoenixgaming7739 ok?

    • @arthurdaffos1490
      @arthurdaffos1490 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@phoenixgaming7739 keep practicing and try it out in ranked, its very timing based so the netcode will screw some times but at one point you will be able to Juke an Omen on wake up or at start of the round

    • @yazsz9715
      @yazsz9715 11 місяців тому

      If I learn a hard character first would that make the easier characters easier to play after or does it not work that way?

    • @arthurdaffos1490
      @arthurdaffos1490 11 місяців тому +1

      @@yazsz9715 a bit for execution and combo timing although characters are very different from each other but most of all you gotta train fundamentals, the transition is smoother then

    • @ClutchClick
      @ClutchClick 11 місяців тому +2

      @@yazsz9715 I would just pick a character that you enjoy the most first, learn as much as you can and then if you decide to you can split off and learn others. But playing a difficult character doesn't always transition into others being easy. @arthurdaffos1490 had a good answer as well.

  • @partlyblue
    @partlyblue 11 місяців тому +147

    Bro that troll was so fucking funny. I felt your pain, man 😭

    • @AeternumUnus
      @AeternumUnus 11 місяців тому +33

      I'm a troll? Lol I'm the Yoshimitsu Aeternum. Trolling wasn't intended but me tryna make it fair (and not dominating him)ended up seeming like that. 😂

    • @partlyblue
      @partlyblue 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@@AeternumUnusAh, gotcha. I certainly don't know enough about this game, but that moveset is quite goofy. Cheers

    • @NormalHatter
      @NormalHatter 11 місяців тому +10

      @@AeternumUnus Yoshi mains, keep partying.

    • @AeternumUnus
      @AeternumUnus 11 місяців тому +11

      @@partlyblue you're fine, I could see why I'm some eyes it's bm. I was just too silly for my own good.

    • @AeternumUnus
      @AeternumUnus 11 місяців тому +8

      @@NormalHatter Yoshi to Yoshi communication whenever it's a mirror match.

  • @anthonyirons1857
    @anthonyirons1857 11 місяців тому +14

    I really enjoy this series! I hope you continue to do more videos on Tekken. I'm learning the game right now, and I've learned some things from the last two videos you've done.

  • @DullahanKai
    @DullahanKai 11 місяців тому +35

    More of this, I'd love to see a whole series of you trying to get to the high ranks, or even go through every character and see if you end up having better winrates purely through knowing characters from facing them.

  • @kadeemeiland
    @kadeemeiland 11 місяців тому +14

    interesting fact about the scrubkiller (uf 4 4 4 4), if they get hit by the second kick (the first low), don't finish the string so you can pick them up with df3,df1 4 for a combo. this is also guaranteed if the first kick is a counter hit.
    couple other tips for Kazuya: hell sweep is a key move for kaz but you need to use homing moves to keep them from sidestepping, b4. db4. Another great move for this is ws4. it's also great to keep your opponent in check and to stop them from mashing or set up df1 counterhit. It's deceptively plus on (counter)hit and alot of players will try to attack after getting hit by it, even on counterhit. if you do a wavedash into it (f * d,df) it auto aligns with the opponent to keep them from sidestepping.

  • @Luv_sicc
    @Luv_sicc 11 місяців тому +33

    That yoshi was partying his heart out, love to see it

    • @AeternumUnus
      @AeternumUnus 11 місяців тому +10

      I was goofing indeed (I'm the Yoshimitsu in the vid)

  • @kirbyx2573
    @kirbyx2573 11 місяців тому +93

    I think it should not matter what character you play. As long as you enjoy playing the game I think its completly valid! Either way, gonna enjoy the new ludvix Video now! And merry christmas! Have a great one you all!

    • @aavavertu229
      @aavavertu229 11 місяців тому +6

      This is a complicated subject. Of course play what you enjoy, but also consider the opponent. Playing against some of the cheaper characters is just not fun.

    • @xsasuke13x
      @xsasuke13x 11 місяців тому +23

      ⁠@@aavavertu229 no don't consider other players there's no reason to gatekeep peoples character choice. If they have fun playing a "cheap" character then let them have fun

    • @huecoplanet
      @huecoplanet 11 місяців тому +2

      @@aavavertu229You shouldn’t consider someone else’s fun when playing a character dawg just play who you want to play

    • @aavavertu229
      @aavavertu229 11 місяців тому +3

      @@xsasuke13x Considering other people in life in general is a good option. Doing that in Tekken does not mean you cannot still end up playing someone like Marduk or whatever if that is what you ultimately want to do. For example we have been playing offline Tekken for a few years now with friends. One of the reasons we were able to keep the sessions going in the beginning was not to go cheap and just cheese each other out. Yes half of the group ended up going with easier and cheaper characters in the end and that is fine. Saying that you should or should not consider other people when making the character choice is an opinion with no right or wrong answer.

    • @aavavertu229
      @aavavertu229 11 місяців тому +3

      @@huecoplanet That is exactly the reason why I originally wrote play whoever you want. However, taking someone else's fun into consideration may be a thought process instead of a hard yes or no thing.

  • @AfricanViking_desu
    @AfricanViking_desu 11 місяців тому +33

    Please make more of these! As an upper intermediate player (fujin/yaksa) this is fun as hell to watch. I feel your pain and frustration my friend.
    I picked up kazuya about 2 months ago, and he is disgustingly difficult. Especially for a new player. Well on you though! Looking forward to seeing you improve 🔥

    • @WavyJayZ
      @WavyJayZ 11 місяців тому +7

      Fujin is not upper intermediate. That's a full on advanced player.

    • @ItBeVoltage
      @ItBeVoltage 11 місяців тому

      That's what I'm saying

    • @Zippyd00da132
      @Zippyd00da132 11 місяців тому +6

      Bro you are *at least* an advanced player if you are a fujin wtf lol, and ranked is especially more brutal than it has ever been lately. I want whatever you are smoking lol

    • @RazorIsEpic
      @RazorIsEpic 11 місяців тому +1

      Bro you're already part of 5% of the playerbase. Blue ranks are one step away from purple ranks lmao.

    • @Blackdolphin98
      @Blackdolphin98 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@WavyJayZno it aint

  • @Vivek-Goel_Superfan
    @Vivek-Goel_Superfan 11 місяців тому +29

    I picked up this game and kazuya 1 month ago and can confirm that being trapped in first dan for the first 50 - 75 games is real lmao! Your sense of progression was very similar to mine. After rebounding from falling into 1st Dan for the nth time, Kazuya starts to click, especially after you become more patient. Initiate to Mentor was significally faster!
    Hitting inputs after a launcher was hard for me for a very very long time! I found myself falling back on b2,1 or 3,1,4 into hellsweep or f,f4 after a launcher. Throwing out B2,4,1 also helped in my case as many opponents only blocked the first two hits, leaving the last hit to launch the opponent back, giving me some more time to collect my thoughts back at neutral! In no way am I confident in my Kazuya, but after watching your video, I find myself reassured that this noobie frustration is normal:)
    Also, I think you have a very unique video. Too many Kazuya players on youtube have decades of experience lol, so seeing you learn from point 0 was very refreshing! Are you interested in making any tekken 8 videos? I can say after playing the demo that Kazuya feels quite different!

    • @Ludvix
      @Ludvix  11 місяців тому +31

      Tekken 8 will def be happening

    • @Retr-qo8se
      @Retr-qo8se 11 місяців тому +2

      Just wait until people start side stepping lol. Thats when you'll see just how hard kazuya is

    • @danknstein6504
      @danknstein6504 11 місяців тому +2

      I can say without a doubt this game is more ferocious online right now than it's been in years. The real killers are sharpening up for t8, every rank is far harder to survive in on average regardless of how low you go. This is the environment where you learn FAST what works and what doesn't, it can be frustrating to get blown up but it feels amazing to have people force your best out of you and you actually deliver. I've been learning hella fast the last 2 or 3 months thanks to this recent trend, it's satisfying and motivating to remind yourself you would kick you-from-last-month's ass 😁

    • @AeternumUnus
      @AeternumUnus 11 місяців тому +1

      From personal experience, I went into rank as Heihachi when I started and managed to get mentor (had trouble getting to expert) weird. However with Yoshimitsu I go stuck at initiate and 3rd Dan

  • @yo_its_amber
    @yo_its_amber 11 місяців тому +4

    went back and watched the noctis video like 2-3 days ago. as a kazuya main i was really excited to see you try him out. it took me a few months to make almost any progress when i first started playing
    also playing people better than you (but not completely steam rolling you) is one of the best ways to learn as well as rematching to learn what other characters can do ^^

  • @Ghozt51
    @Ghozt51 10 місяців тому +2

    It was rly satisfying watching you improve! Particularly when you got your movement down & got your combos going. Would love to see more tekken content.

  • @MasterJunior93
    @MasterJunior93 11 місяців тому +47

    Man, Melee has really expanded. It has become so photorealistic AND the stages look so clean!

  • @Scrapcat
    @Scrapcat 11 місяців тому +9

    Loving this kind of content,
    Really entertaining to watch someone learn Tekken while staying humble to the fact that people with many hours in the game is obviously more experienced.
    So bored with hearing most people call out cheap characters/moves.

  • @baines803
    @baines803 11 місяців тому +28

    The fact that the lee knew b2 loops and the jin knew electric combos this early is crazy lmao

    • @zaer-ezart
      @zaer-ezart 11 місяців тому +22

      Bunch of smurfs probably

    • @AcceptGamingDKD
      @AcceptGamingDKD 11 місяців тому +5

      Mentor and the dan ranks you get either the most cracked labrat gods or the most braindead nooblits its so hard crawl out of those ranks because its a crap shot of what you get

    • @morky3673
      @morky3673 11 місяців тому +5

      3rd dan too green ranks is full of labrats with 0 defence. They just practice combos over and over (myself included) i have all of heihachis combos down pat (except f3 into ws4 extenders). Can omen and electric on command but my defence and frame knowledge is so bad. Ive ran through red ranks a few times but been mopped by 1st dan lucky chloes too. Its a strange world down here

    • @Real_Genji
      @Real_Genji 11 місяців тому +3

      The Lee was trash but yeah he knew loops

  • @48Mei
    @48Mei 11 місяців тому +3

    These Tekken videos are so interesting to watch and have been a learning experience to someone like me who grew up playing Tekken.
    Where I live, it’s so hard to find people that actually play Tekken as all of my friends, their friends friends etc only play Smash (a rare few actually play SF) so for me, I’m always trying to look for someone to play against and I have friends who have shown a little interest in the game, but I don’t know how to really make them stay interested or anything, so they only really play whenever I’m around.
    I think what this video and your experience has shown me is just how overwhelming this game can be. Most fighting games don’t have over like 20-30 moves, so for a game where the average character has around 80+ must be really intimidating, especially as it’s very easy to forget something you’ve just learned when you’re panicking.
    This series is great tho, hopefully we see more of your Tekken journey 🙏

  • @mikeshark8869
    @mikeshark8869 11 місяців тому +12

    It's worth noting that a lot of these people at lower ranks tend to be either smurfs on alt accounts, or their save data was deleted so their ranks reset. Happened to me a couple of times.
    Tekken is a massive knowledge check especially early on, and it's possible to spend years playing without making much improvement, but you definitely have a lot of potential in your fundamentals. Subscribed and hoping to see more from you in T8!

  • @tylermartin7245
    @tylermartin7245 11 місяців тому +1

    I don't care about your other content but Tekken made me subscribe. Hopefully you keep learning the game. I've been playing Tekken 7 since 2018 and I got Emperor last year. Always good to see new players trying Tekken.

  • @SyrKonrat
    @SyrKonrat 11 місяців тому +2

    this video is sweet. I love the way you document games.

  • @prasanthraonilapu8809
    @prasanthraonilapu8809 11 місяців тому +1

    This is currently my favorite tekken series to watch, enjoyed it the whole way through!

  • @THEdudeproductions
    @THEdudeproductions 11 місяців тому +1

    Ngl. I want a Part 2 to this. The time with your growth in Kaz was pretty good man.

  • @baines803
    @baines803 11 місяців тому +6

    24:11 kazuyas ws1,2 (or while rising) is i13 so it can punish drags d2 you just werent fast enough also if you never know what to punish a low with you can always go with ws4 since it will almost always be your fastest punish except for certain characters

  • @Duncan94
    @Duncan94 11 місяців тому +1

    Worth remembering a lot of the players you're against at this point in Tekken 7 who have a rank of 1st Dan etc aren't actually that rank. A perfect example is Chloe at 31:00 - that's not a new player. You'll rank up way more organically in Tekken 8 since there will be in influx of real new players and the ranks won't be stored locally on your PC.

  • @CGB_Crash
    @CGB_Crash 10 місяців тому

    I love this new series you've started. Getting good at a fighting game from scratch can seem like an impossible goal, but seeing you go through the process makes it seem more realistic to achieve, you just gotta keep playing.

  • @redsteam007
    @redsteam007 11 місяців тому +2

    BRO. What a enjoyable watch. Hopefully you continue this series. Fresh for veteran Tekken players like me. Keep it up!

  • @AeternumUnus
    @AeternumUnus 11 місяців тому +11

    @ludvix Hey dude I'm the Yoshimitsu Aeternum, I wasn't playing serious since I knew you were learning, so I was having fun and letting you learn the controls. I was goofing and it was a blast to fight ya. I hope you don't take it as rude, but I don't play to dominate, I play to have fun and share that with others, Yoshi allows for that goofiness. Also for Yoshis Seppuku / stab self. Was just that until another input or if you stood behind me to be on the receiving end. Also I never thought myself as good, merely the challenger fighting a higher power to show that they can be beat by a pebble like me. I'd be glad to fight you again some time.

    • @r0mit
      @r0mit 11 місяців тому +1

      As a fellow Yoshi player, I respect the hell outta you man

    • @dyo1001
      @dyo1001 11 місяців тому

      Im subscribing just in case you make youshimtius content for Tekken 8 😉

    • @AeternumUnus
      @AeternumUnus 11 місяців тому +1

      Also if those are wondering, and to help others understand how to get good, I started t7 in October 17th I think. I'm not a bigshot, however over time I became comfortable with my character. Time and patience is needed for the game, doesn't matter if you win or lose, as long as you keep your head down and keep on playing you're bound to improve. I've never used practice mode and have my fair share of wins, however I also know despite those wins, I have at least triple the losses. (i have about 300 wins in total)

  • @kingkrow7060
    @kingkrow7060 11 місяців тому

    29:46 actual legend, the fact that you got super good using the analog stick is something you should definitely be proud of my guy

  • @kingspeedwagon2612
    @kingspeedwagon2612 11 місяців тому +3

    Around the 15 min mark and man, I don't remember the dan and teal ranks having combos that decent. Some feel like smurf accounts.
    Keep at it for Tekken. Seeing the progression on learning Kaz and Noctis is really nice. Seeing you try out King would be pretty interesting.

    • @vredxiii5551
      @vredxiii5551 11 місяців тому +3

      The Chloe is a Smurf. Everyone else are legit

  • @Malpracticallity
    @Malpracticallity 10 місяців тому +1

    Kazuya will always be my favorite. His standing 5 hit with the calf kick was the most satisfying thing to land in the game for me in Tekken 4

  • @KirbyGroves
    @KirbyGroves 11 місяців тому +1

    Dude I’m loving your vids rn these are so cool to see

  • @theoneknownasbam
    @theoneknownasbam 11 місяців тому +3

    hey man, absolutely love these videos! i started tekken late into 2021, as a hopeful kazuya from smash who just constantly dropped ewgfs, and now i’m a full fujin player with a consistent electric, wavedash and kbd who’s fallen in love with tekken analysis and philosophies on improvement.
    i loved your noctis video and this! if you ever plan to make a 3rd video, maybe you could spice it up by allowing yourself to use some more outside resources! i understand that this is meant to represent the experience of a new player attempting to improve using only what the game’s given you as information, but personally i think tekken is a very uniquely communal experience; even among fighting games, which are already very community-based in nature. i couldn’t have ever reached the heights i did without the likes of phidx, mainmanswe, jdcr, thoughts of himself, and the like! so i just figure it would be cool if, now that you’ve represented this side of the “new player learning” experience, you’re able to also represent the new player experience of folks who are naturally really curious and exploratory about the game they’re learning.
    love your stuff man! can’t wait to keep seeing more for a whole bunch of other games!!!

  • @abelee9324
    @abelee9324 11 місяців тому +1

    As a tekken player. This video was amazing. Tekken prowess tells you what elo their main character is around. And u were fighting some much higher level ppl smurfing. Props to you man. Keep it up.

  • @Miss_Majin_Anime_Queen
    @Miss_Majin_Anime_Queen 11 місяців тому +1

    Nice wave dash developing by the end there! Nice work dude.

  • @jonmanz181
    @jonmanz181 11 місяців тому +12

    I felt your pain when it came to counter hits when first learning to play, over time I realized that you need to predict the move to hit and just remember a combo route
    Edit: I can't wait you to learn more obscure things like wall jumps, chicken and grab breaks

    • @big7pointer
      @big7pointer 11 місяців тому +2

      I dont think hes learning throwbreaks or chickening if he can't recognize when he gets a ch launch in time lol

    • @rkp4360
      @rkp4360 11 місяців тому

      ​@big7pointer takes time to recognize hit confirms, personally I'm a 2D fighter main starting to learn Tekken and it took me a while to recognize CH opportunities/setups.
      Cant even imagine if youre a smash player going into tekken the uphill battle.

    • @big7pointer
      @big7pointer 11 місяців тому

      @@rkp4360 idk what you're gonna do when you learn what actual hit confirms are, or god forbid a twitch confirm

    • @rkp4360
      @rkp4360 11 місяців тому

      @big7pointer brother, believe me when I say idk, either. I'm literally getting hard carried by yoshimitsu bullshit whenever I win.

  • @fijnman3813
    @fijnman3813 10 місяців тому +1

    That yoshi player knows how to keep things fun for beginning opponents

  • @robbylava
    @robbylava 11 місяців тому

    I had never before had any interest in Tekken before seeing your first video. I'm really surprised by how invested I'm getting in this game -- your vids are a great entry point.

  • @cursedledge6524
    @cursedledge6524 11 місяців тому +1

    Honestly I’d love to see a pt2, I wanna see you grow into an insane ass kazuya

  • @brucky556
    @brucky556 11 місяців тому +3

    Yeah that TTV Chloe was a smurf don't feel bad. Love the progression throughout the video
    Edit: Checked out his stream and his chloe is at the second highest rank in the game

    • @bonfist7277
      @bonfist7277 11 місяців тому +1

      Someone tried to say his save file was corrupted- but the dude is re-matching a 1st dan while receiving low reward at 3rd dan. Makes no sense.

  • @Kristoffer113
    @Kristoffer113 11 місяців тому +2

    This video was very educationional to watch. I learned a lot of idea from an noobies perspective. Keep doing more of this please.

  • @zoewhyumadbro3090
    @zoewhyumadbro3090 10 місяців тому

    as someone just picking up Kaz in Tekken 8, i honestly love your enthusiasm with the character.
    also, solid gameplay

  • @Mythansar
    @Mythansar 5 місяців тому

    I laughed so hard at the first Yoshimitsu! :'D Great video btw! Keep it up! :)

  • @Brawlsack-765
    @Brawlsack-765 11 місяців тому +2

    As someone who has played Tekken for a long time, I LOVE your approach. Reminds me of me back in the day.

  • @hollowedboi5937
    @hollowedboi5937 11 місяців тому +1

    I like how you would play a bit, see what you liked doing and what you could improve upon, researched and labbed out some stuff, then returned to play more games. Its a good cycle and fun when you don’t get hard on yourself but laugh and enjoy the process of growth and learning.
    Best thing with Tekken I find is yes combos good for different situations (general launchers, while rising when ducking highs or blocking unsafe lows, counter hits, etc.)
    but also what are good safe options for pokes, quick confirms when someone does something unsafe (1,1,2 for Kazuya where the 1,1 is safe to poke but do the full string on hit), good safe mids for crouching opponents, and what mixups does your character have with lows, stances, grabs, and something really good to know= get up options (The axe kicks that Kazuya has are great when someone is grounded to throw out to check them, I think its forward 4 and double forward 3 but I might be wrong)
    Lastly, throws are teched with 1 for left hand and 2 for right hand, 1+2 for both hands, but of course other grapplers and special throws may have their own knowledge checks that come with playing more match ups and experimenting.
    And also very important, when getting up do just up or back. There’s other options but those are the most safest to get up and block.
    There’s a helluva lot to Tekken which makes it both fun but understandably tedious for some. But by finding what tools fit the above, and what moves are just used to combos, you can dumb down the movelist by quite a bit and find what you will rely on most.
    Think of it like learning a language. You won’t be learning words about neuro science and meta physics, you’ll probably be learning the most commonly used words in speech. I always hear like if there’s 50,000 words, 300-500 of them are like 90% of spoken speech. So just focus on that small but fundamentally great percentage and you’ll do awesome. Continue having fun and growing its a commitment that is honestly rewarding when you continually get better.

  • @rawrdino7046
    @rawrdino7046 11 місяців тому +3

    You can tell this person is a smash player, he didnt immediately go to training to see what Kazuya can do

  • @EpsilonKnight2
    @EpsilonKnight2 11 місяців тому

    Figuring out wake up options and methods is a HUGE part of getting better against players who have their offense on point because they'll always blow you up for the wrong option. Just tapping up to stand up straight is usually a safe option if you get flopped onto your face or facing away from the opponent and unable to tech roll, just be ready to immediately block afterwards. If tapping straight up doesn't work you can also lay on the ground for a few seconds, eat a small hit or scoop they will throw at you if you have the hp left, then tech roll from a bigger distance so they can't vortex you up close.

  • @shardofkingdoms9816
    @shardofkingdoms9816 11 місяців тому +1

    There was a series on a channel called Super Couch Fighters for this game and it helped me learn the game. They go through the mechanics with a few different characters. It was really helpful and if you do wanna keep playing the game I recommend checking it out

  • @AlwaysRetr0
    @AlwaysRetr0 11 місяців тому +1

    This is really fun to watch. I could watch a whole ass series of you learning each character like this

  • @SlunkyBoi
    @SlunkyBoi 10 місяців тому

    Loved this video as a melee player who has never touched a fighting game. Tekken appeals the most to me since it has extra movement options since it’s 3D and has high mechanical complexity, but idk how to get into it when nobody I know plays. This was a sick way to vicariously experience the lower levels of Tekk as a fellow falco. Sick video.

  • @JohnSmithson999
    @JohnSmithson999 11 місяців тому

    I remember watching your other Tekken video with Noctis and am glad to see you picked a staple Tekken character this time. I think beginners who pick Kazuya tend to fall into the "Kazuya Vortex", which is fine when you start but can hurt your knowledge of both the character and the game itself. For example Kazuya has a tackle that noobs online never use, so even just adding that into your move-list would help more than you'd think. Hope to see more vids like this from you!

  • @Chill_Phil_
    @Chill_Phil_ 11 місяців тому +1

    Been following you during the Melee days in 2016 since that was my main game at the time, and I'm glad you kept going with content creation as I always waited for you to upload. A lot of time has passed and now you're experimenting with other games which I think is amazing. What's awesome is that you've decided to give Tekken a try which is my main fighter now as I stepped away from the smash scene and wanted to experience more traditional fighting games. Anyways I just want to let you know that I'm proud of you and the journey you've been on. Wishing you all the best

  • @CharlieGreasby
    @CharlieGreasby 11 місяців тому +4

    Great video! It’s definitely noticeable how much more you’re thinking about the game since the start of the noctis video. Keep up the good work!
    One thing I would say is that often kazuya is incredibly hard to punish with, especially since your electric or normal wind god fist is probably hovering at around 16 to 17 frames right now. I would try to settle more for a simple 112 punish more, you can then bait out any stupid kick getup moves they may do and 112 again.
    Also, kazuya is one of the strongest characters in the game when the opponent is on the ground. Your main moves are hellsweep (CD4 to hit standing guard, FF3 to hit those who try and crouch hellsweep, and FF4 to hit *grounded opponents* and reset the situation) if you can use those effectively you’ll start to understand more of what kazuya is played at a slightly higher level often

  • @imjay2118
    @imjay2118 11 місяців тому +1

    when playing mishimas (heihachi, devil jin, KAZUYA) one of the most important things to learn as a beginner is that 1,1,2 is a hit confirmable knockdown. if you see you hit 1,1, then add the 2, if you see it was blocked dont add the 2. this makes kazuya much easier for beginners to understand how to play the character (imo)

  • @MRxMID
    @MRxMID 11 місяців тому +2

    In all honesty, 100 or 200 might sound like a lot of games played, but in tekken most people who are even somewhat good play st least 3k games lol. I think Noctis is a very simple character, so I'm glad that you played Kazuya, too. However, to be honest, you should just play characters you enjoy. Still, I'm glad you got a taste of what high difficult is like lol. I hope you enjoy tekken and choose to continue playing it!
    Edit: I play Jin(Jin, Kazuya, Heihachi, and Devil Jin are all called Mishimas) so as a Mishima player I understand that struggle of doing combos on different sides lol.

  • @ixprojectzeroxi
    @ixprojectzeroxi 11 місяців тому +3

    It’s heartwarming to see content like this. Enjoy the game.

  • @uzelac1372
    @uzelac1372 11 місяців тому +1

    You improve really quickly I am really impressed with your dedication to tekken

  • @milatonan9
    @milatonan9 11 місяців тому +1

    I’m really glad you didn’t get discouraged early on, and I’m sorry you had to deal with those mean comments, learning tekken is hard regardless of who you play. I wish you the best, and I hope you have a wonderful day and enjoy more tekken!

  • @Franklojpg
    @Franklojpg 11 місяців тому +4

    Bro I admire your dedication to keep trying when you are getting wreck, sometimes it can be so frustrating to do with people knowledge checking and all that, I hope you come back for tekken 8

  • @Melikith
    @Melikith 10 місяців тому

    god this made me feel better. I grew up learning how to play kazuya from tekken 3-7.

  • @mimi_kittenn
    @mimi_kittenn 11 місяців тому

    That Lucky Chloe you played against is a Tekken God ranked LC main. Considering that you did good!:)
    Im enjoying your content! Keep up the good work :3

  • @GhipZ997
    @GhipZ997 11 місяців тому

    i know you are just starting, but you are already playing the game correctly
    you're always trying to figure out the answer for a move or new situation, even if sometimes your assumptions may be a little wrong, you just lack a bit of technical knowledge
    but this is literally how you learn tekken
    good job, i hope you keep playing!
    also seeing your first time experiencing characters or mechanics of the game is priceless

  • @shanaxis9074
    @shanaxis9074 11 місяців тому +1

    This reminds me of my first hours of learning Kazuya, tho I spent way more time in practice mode before I went into ranked. Nice job

    • @WavyJayZ
      @WavyJayZ 11 місяців тому +2

      Any Mishima player knows you shouldn't touch online until you feel comfortable in almost every situation this game can put you in. I always learn in practice mode, and then practice in treasure battle. Then online. You definitely have to play online to fully learn though.

  • @v-1235
    @v-1235 11 місяців тому +4

    few tips about kazuya vs dragunov match-up
    - the 20f low is considered unreactable, reactable lows are considered from i25 at the minimum
    - the kazuya’s while standing launcher (ws1,2) that you used actually launches that low on block, since it’s i13
    hope it helps, tekken is hard but so cool to learn, see you in tekken 8!!!

    • @genzo454
      @genzo454 11 місяців тому +1

      Yup, once you get into i24, i23 moves, those are considered 'semi-reactable' (see Heihachi's d/b+2, Negan's d/b+2, Noctis' d/b+2)

  • @xelic1996
    @xelic1996 11 місяців тому +2

    I really hope you keep going with tekken content into Tekken 8 next month! They are adding so many more tools to help train and ACTUAL TUTORIALS FINALLY.

  • @mikael9931
    @mikael9931 11 місяців тому +3

    This is so good! Please make more Kazuya grindset videos! :D I'd love to see you reach green ranks.

  • @firesoul5943
    @firesoul5943 11 місяців тому +1

    props on you for taking this challenge, but tekken is still hard no matter who you play
    people genuinely don't understand bruh, hell even i would've recommended Noctis if one of my friends started tekken

  • @dolo4872
    @dolo4872 11 місяців тому +5

    The plot twist that he's been using the joystick on the controller hit me like a truck

    • @Onuardo
      @Onuardo 11 місяців тому +1

      I play with joystick the entire time in tekken, im doing good so far but obviusly electrics are way harder in joystick

  • @josefkadhem2889
    @josefkadhem2889 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video brother keep it up! Just gotta say dont let these crybabies online dictate what and who you can play or not.
    I main jin and have for years but i also love ff15 and noctis is genuienly a fun charatcer to play even though he may be cheap in some regards. However it does not matter if the character is or not just play whoever you enjoy and thats it. If people online cry about it its porb just cuz skill issues they have with themselves and they are prob not good at the game.
    every good tekken player knows how to counter and adapt to other characters and playstyles so dont let the cries of a child change you playing someone you enjoy! Once again great video!

  • @tzitzitzitzi1584
    @tzitzitzitzi1584 11 місяців тому +3

    That Hei and Lucky Hoey were ranked way above their rank. They were 100% smurfs. Hei had a clean wavedash at 2nd Dan😂. And no matter how much you practice, you cant fully use combos or traps like that Cloe at your first matches. He was probably on a new account. That Kazuya was also a smurf. Way too clean movement and he rage quit coz he lost to a player that doesn't use fancy movement. Amazing content.

  • @dragunokdaox3781
    @dragunokdaox3781 11 місяців тому +1

    firstly LETS GO KAZUYA GANGGG! secondly, anything that is -13 frames kazuya can launch, so yes, you could do something about that dragonov low, i could recommend doing some punishment training aswell for good meassure, also dont let all does whinners get you down, you play what you want to play in tekken, everyone are welcome!

  • @brucky556
    @brucky556 11 місяців тому +2

    If you decide to continue with Kazuya, try inputting forward after a crouch dash to get a dash out of the crouch dash. You can use this to mix up hellsweep with ff3 and get a launch if you land the mid. Goodluck!

  • @FahmiZFX
    @FahmiZFX 11 місяців тому +3

    That Lucky Chloe is a smurf, no doubt. That kind of movement you would only see on Tekken King ranks.
    Shame on this guy.

  • @shadowgaming-oy2df
    @shadowgaming-oy2df 10 місяців тому +1

    Yo hello I'm new to the Chancel since I got hooked up to Tekken again just to give you an info about yoshimitsu
    The move that the guy was doing in the 11:37 can be a one shot combo if the yoshimitsu player stabs himself while looking back at the enemy so best to say that you should get away with it and let him stab himself since it's an advantage because it takes away most of the health

  • @yoch5383
    @yoch5383 11 місяців тому +1

    29:13 his launching kick is launch punishable (-15) but with kazuya can be hard if you aren't really good with electrics so you can DF12 into FF4 or continue the vortex with hellsweap and FF3

  • @DeathDrager
    @DeathDrager 11 місяців тому +1

    you may have gotten a lesser rank than playing with noctis but you surely learned more about the enemy variety playing an honest character.

    • @sumabich721
      @sumabich721 11 місяців тому

      Honest hellsweep vortex.

  • @meeese6_
    @meeese6_ 11 місяців тому

    kinda poetic when you said "unblockables are the scrubkiller" that the lobby dummy is Yoshi

  • @PsychoBackflip
    @PsychoBackflip 11 місяців тому +1

    I really enjoyed this (hoping there are more of these)
    39:40 You have to dash forward after the electric if you want to do the same combo
    I also think your biggest challenge is to be more patient like you eventually said towards the end:
    Just wait and see what they are doing to analyze them and learn how to block their attacks
    Btw: Was it a goal of yours to not check Kazuya's move list too ?
    Because I'm sure that would have made it a lot easier for you, to see what moves you like and feel you can do :)

  • @Yamato_Brett
    @Yamato_Brett 11 місяців тому +3

    Yeah, coming from melee to tekken is an experience, but I find tekken almost as addicting at getting better. Keep up the great content!

  • @leukashot123
    @leukashot123 11 місяців тому +1

    Hope to see this series in Tekken 8!

  • @BoxOfIssues
    @BoxOfIssues 11 місяців тому +3

    You learnt the character pretty quickly, I feel like your biggest weakness is that when you're knocked to the ground you wake up immediately, sometimes if the enemy is spamming mods or highs, it's just safer to wait for a few moments.
    Keep it up man, I can't wait to see what you'll do in Tekken 8

  • @samurai-j7036
    @samurai-j7036 11 місяців тому +1

    Best way to improve would be finding a sparring mate. Either someone who is already playing for a while and willing to teach you the game or either someone who started aswell and is hungry to learn the game. I myself have a mate who is definetly better then me in alot of ways and beats my ass everytime but i still learn alot from him every single time. The community is always pretty open and welcoming to new players.

  • @supersonicward15
    @supersonicward15 11 місяців тому +1

    Yo I see you're back with the Tekken and playing as one of the hardest characters on this game.
    I enjoyed this video, I played as Kaz and he's difficult but I've been doing well I guess.
    Tekken is frustrating but it's fun.
    Just play calm and keep your cool 🙂

  • @bench4015
    @bench4015 11 місяців тому +1

    Really hope you make some content for Tekken 8! It’s gonna be my first time, total noob, so I would love to grow as a player alongside you.

  • @hlogilehlogonolo5438
    @hlogilehlogonolo5438 10 місяців тому

    I’m new to Tekken and I’m definitely not gonna get this game it looks to daunting for me however the game looks really fun to play and it’s nice to watch gameplay of because of how well the colours work together

  • @LeftySSBU
    @LeftySSBU 11 місяців тому

    I literally watch your first video last night for the first time, and I’m already getting more content? Subbing rn. 😎😎

  • @BuddyFr
    @BuddyFr 11 місяців тому +1

    Tekken Fairs game Making.
    First Match:Some Junkie
    Second match: FUKING MIKE TYSON
    Sounds fair.

  • @UgandalfTheBrown
    @UgandalfTheBrown 11 місяців тому +1

    10:16 the fact that casual players think Dragunovs mids are highs really speaks volumes about how broken he currently is

  • @citrusblast4372
    @citrusblast4372 11 місяців тому

    8:35 i didnt know this until literally last week but generic grabs that use 1+3 or 2+4 can be broken by pressing either of the punch buttons, u dont have to match their exact button with these grabs. Notice how he did 1, 2, 1 after he broke out, he was just mashing

  • @zkyeknight9241
    @zkyeknight9241 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for this Vid! I have a couple of friends I'm coaching and one of them picked up Kaz like you. Happy to see you enjoy and learn more. This is great! I showed your 1st 100 games vid to some friends who wants to pick up fighters. They're encouraged to start!

  • @MrSideeXD3
    @MrSideeXD3 11 місяців тому

    19:12 good old 3 bar Law. Never disappoints

  • @wingedsereph1322
    @wingedsereph1322 11 місяців тому +1

    Btw I doubt you’ll see this. But for the ws1,2 combo you used, cd3 is referring to hell lancer which is like a jumping kick. Not ws3 which is the move you were really using in that combo. The reason you get ws3 is because you input cd3 too slow, meaning you are exiting the crouch dash which leaves you returning to the standing state almost as if you crouched. However this is extremely useful because it means you can use while standing moves out of crouch dash. Meaning you can get a good poke with ws4, or launch with ws1,2 or ws2.

    • @Alsry1
      @Alsry1 11 місяців тому

      He's getting ws3 because hes not holding df and going into f. not doing it too slowly.

  • @rRagnaBR
    @rRagnaBR 11 місяців тому

    Excelent evolution in movement at the end.