I've listened to this clip at least 20 or more times. Never tire of it. Love the sax section sound and love Buddy's drumming. My favorite thing about this clip ? The camera shots from the show. One Hell of a director and a classy TV Show !
OMG! I believe Buddy allowed the tempo to drag toward the end! The piece started out pretty darn fast, but during the trumpet solo it slows down unbelievably! I'm a longtime Buddy Rich fan, and I've never noticed this happen before!!!
This edition of the Buddy band had just backed up Sinatra on a Latin American trip to the Dominican and shortly after that Buddy had the massive heart attack-this band was soooo tight playing this great Oliver Nelson chart of Duke's classic.
What can you say? It’s buddy rich there is not one single drummer who could come close gene Krupa said this buddy rich is the greatest drummer to draw breath gene said that and today that statement still holds true enough said
Buddy had a few ringers in there for this band. Pretty much the same band that did your buddy rich show… Available through drummer world... Lin Biviano on lead tpt, Rick Stepton on lead bone. Star veterans of earlier bands, both. Andy Fusco is on lead alto and he hangs with the very best.
The quintessential version would be Frank Foster's arrangement for the Count Basie Band. The trumpet section is: Walt Fowler (travels with Lou Marini in James Taylor's band); Lin Biviano (teacher at Berklee); John Harbaugh (teaches at University of Central Washington) and Nick Thorpe (arranges all the production shows for Carnival Cruise Lines). I believe the trombone player on the left is Conrad Herwig. Andy Fusco is the lead alto player.
The technology is better now - crafty, sometimes. F'rinstance, you can get electric basses that resemble a naked upright bass. I mean with full-length, conventional, fretless neck and a small, solid bottom section, with electric pickups. And thanks to the popularity of Karaoke in Japan, mics that don't easily feed back have been developed. They only pick up from close by, damping down sounds from further way. I have a couple such (I made some K-tapes with original backing: some are on UA-cam).
davidwrightatloppers The main limitation here was the television medium… Just before improved sound became a thing. There’s about $20,000 worth of expensive German large diaphragm condenser mics on that stage. Balances are quite good, as is usual for British engineers. But sadly, television audio as a format was still in the dark ages
I seem to recall Buddy DID use a double bass fiddle in the early days of the band (say, '66-8) but I s'pose practicality eventually took over. The DBF is a bugger to amplify (and different venues exacerbate the problem) - plus it's BIG! But I agree the MELLOW tones of a DBF are WAY preferable to the harsher sound of the electric bass, particularly with SWING numbers. I have seen bass players use BOTH - the DBF for Swing - and the electric for faster numbers, where its faster action was needed.
Can you imagine the sort of feedback problems a double bass would experience once it's amplified enough to be audible with a big band featuring God knows how many horns??? It would feed back constantly. An upright bass has its place undeniably, but it isn't on a big band stand going through a massive loud PA.
@lawrencelam2000 i agree buddy's sense of time was near enough flawless throughout his long career...but the man was near to death..in fact 5 years away to be exact so i think its understandable if he overlooked the tempo slowing down...its still good .
What after playing in perfect unison for over 4 minutes? Do you have any concept of timing and what it entails to be a musician? Yeah even after 7 years you deserve correcting!
@@alilacherruse What do you expect? They were all at the top of their game. Do you think he hired stand ins? Chill out, we both appreciate his music and leadership. I don't think it was "Iron fist rule" to be there and stick it out, it took talent and respect. Not subjugation. After all he wasn't a warlord but instead one of the best musicians around. Bowing in time is that perfectionist cherry on the cake that any professional would revel in when playing amongst the best musicians he will ever play with during his lifetime.
@@cunning-stunt You're telling me to calm down? YOU came at me with a boatload of attitude. I read your comment. we probably disagree on the matter of Buddy being an iron fist ruler. My observation remains; they do not take their bow until he takes his bow first. Of course he IS the band leader. There is no certainty that I am right beyond doubt. I've been wrong, many times. Of course they're all skilled discipline musicians. Do I have to remind you, again, I never said they were anything less than. I didn't negatively critique their performance once. Smh take it easy
Of course very good players. But. Sax special out of balance (bariton too much to hear, maybe the sound engineer was sleeping. Special chorus tutti is played without any dynamics (the score says here: begin with p). Too much powerplay.
I've listened to this clip at least 20 or more times. Never tire of it. Love the sax section sound and love Buddy's drumming. My favorite thing about this clip ? The camera shots from the show. One Hell of a director and a classy TV Show !
Easily the best saxophone feature i’ve ever heard
Never heard a sax section so tight before😂😂 so good!!
OMG! I believe Buddy allowed the tempo to drag toward the end! The piece started out pretty darn fast, but during the trumpet solo it slows down unbelievably! I'm a longtime Buddy Rich fan, and I've never noticed this happen before!!!
This edition of the Buddy band had just backed up Sinatra on a Latin American trip to the Dominican and shortly after that Buddy had the massive heart attack-this band was soooo tight playing this great Oliver Nelson chart of Duke's classic.
What can you say? It’s buddy rich there is not one single drummer who could come close gene Krupa said this buddy rich is the greatest drummer to draw breath gene said that and today that statement still holds true enough said
Arr. by Oliver Nelson. Lin Biviano is the lead tpt. Walt Fowler plays the jazz solo. Pete Beltran is on Bass Trombone
Buddy had a few ringers in there for this band. Pretty much the same band that did your buddy rich show… Available through drummer world... Lin Biviano on lead tpt, Rick Stepton on lead bone. Star veterans of earlier bands, both. Andy Fusco is on lead alto and he hangs with the very best.
The quintessential version would be Frank Foster's arrangement for the Count Basie Band.
The trumpet section is: Walt Fowler (travels with Lou Marini in James Taylor's band); Lin Biviano (teacher at Berklee); John Harbaugh (teaches at University of Central Washington) and Nick Thorpe (arranges all the production shows for Carnival Cruise Lines).
I believe the trombone player on the left is Conrad Herwig. Andy Fusco is the lead alto player.
That's Chris Payson on the harmon trumpet solo. Hey Rich - Monkees!
Walt Weiskopf on 2nd tenor, and think I saw Conrad Herwig in the trombone section
that trumpet solo's pretty killer
wonderful!!
I believe this is the only time I ever heard buddy drag a chart - slows way down -
I always like these tempos...'cuz Buddy always played such inventive and tasty fills. And the one at 3:48 ain't bad either :)
And, after the performance, Buddy took the entire horn section outside and he showed 'em what it's like.
lol....i love a mellow tone
the Bari is tooooo nice
The tenor trombonists are playing Earl Williams horns, which were handmade. The trombonists in most of the Rich videos I have seen were playing Kings.
Great band,great chart.The sax section soli is as good as it gets.
Never knew Carmine Appice could play saxophone... and with Barry Beach....
The technology is better now - crafty, sometimes. F'rinstance, you can get electric basses that resemble a naked upright bass. I mean with full-length, conventional, fretless neck and a small, solid bottom section, with electric pickups.
And thanks to the popularity of Karaoke in Japan, mics that don't easily feed back have been developed. They only pick up from close by, damping down sounds from further way. I have a couple such (I made some K-tapes with original backing: some are on UA-cam).
davidwrightatloppers The main limitation here was the television medium… Just before improved sound became a thing. There’s about $20,000 worth of expensive German large diaphragm condenser mics on that stage. Balances are quite good, as is usual for British engineers. But sadly, television audio as a format was still in the dark ages
They would rehearse bowing for an hour after a bad gig. The band called them 'hate rehearsals'.
I seem to recall Buddy DID use a double bass fiddle in the early days of the band (say, '66-8) but I s'pose practicality eventually took over. The DBF is a bugger to amplify (and different venues exacerbate the problem) - plus it's BIG!
But I agree the MELLOW tones of a DBF are WAY preferable to the harsher sound of the electric bass, particularly with SWING numbers.
I have seen bass players use BOTH - the DBF for Swing - and the electric for faster numbers, where its faster action was needed.
Buddy made music in so unique ways; 4.45.
Nice.
@lawrencelam2000
I don't think it really slowed down........he was actually listening to the soloist who I'm pretty sure is Walt Fowler.
Hell Yeh, Appice on the Sax :P
Chris Pasin on trumpet solo
I can see it's soothing, but I think classiness is the best, rather than stylishness.
Lee Musiker nice touch. who's the jazz tpt?
Andy Fusco - lead alto; Steve Marcus, 1st tenor.
Rob Scheps Jack Leibowitz on 2nd alto sax
Can you imagine the sort of feedback problems a double bass would experience once it's amplified enough to be audible with a big band featuring God knows how many horns??? It would feed back constantly. An upright bass has its place undeniably, but it isn't on a big band stand going through a massive loud PA.
Haha that slowed down so much lol. Still absolutely love it though!
Totally!
Anders Dybdahl var NÆSTEN lige så go' i sine helt unge dage ;) ;)
It's funny how Buddy got on them about being too loud because they kinda were lol
@lawrencelam2000 i agree
buddy's sense of time was near enough flawless throughout his long career...but the man was near to death..in fact 5 years away to be exact so i think its understandable if he overlooked the tempo slowing down...its still good .
It's so obvious this is not count Basie, right?
the horn players are all looking scared
Raymond Tindell Hell yeah! They probably got their asses chewed after this
Which is why they sound so good.
names of players??
I want that lead alto players sound,,
Andy Fusco. So swinging and a fantastic jazz player.
TattierLivee Andy Fusco
@@jqoconnor ,
You can see the tension on the faces of his band.They all look like Buddy is fixing to bitch slap any giving one of them.
Strange how the band "bows" in unison twice only after being cued to.
Things that make you go hmmmmm?
What after playing in perfect unison for over 4 minutes? Do you have any concept of timing and what it entails to be a musician? Yeah even after 7 years you deserve correcting!
@@cunning-stunt I did not comment once on the performance OR the level of their musicianship, fool. Who do you think you are correcting?
@@cunning-stunt what I was commenting on was Buddy's, widely known, Iron Fist rule over the band. It's on clear display here. Try to keep up.
@@alilacherruse What do you expect? They were all at the top of their game. Do you think he hired stand ins? Chill out, we both appreciate his music and leadership. I don't think it was "Iron fist rule" to be there and stick it out, it took talent and respect. Not subjugation. After all he wasn't a warlord but instead one of the best musicians around. Bowing in time is that perfectionist cherry on the cake that any professional would revel in when playing amongst the best musicians he will ever play with during his lifetime.
@@cunning-stunt You're telling me to calm down? YOU came at me with a boatload of attitude. I read your comment. we probably disagree on the matter of Buddy being an iron fist ruler.
My observation remains; they do not take their bow until he takes his bow first. Of course he IS the band leader.
There is no certainty that I am right beyond doubt.
I've been wrong, many times.
Of course they're all skilled discipline musicians. Do I have to remind you, again, I never said they were anything less than. I didn't negatively critique their performance once.
Smh
take it easy
Who is the arranger ?
Oliver Nelson
His last year using Ludwig .
Yep, restored Radio Kings after that.
Drummers - Doesn't the sax player next to Steve Marcus look like Carmen Appice?
rjvsmb that’s Jack Leibowitz
2:00 n 2:06
Definite tempo slowdown, as others have said.
Only spoiled by the usual incompetent BBC camera director.
What a lead alto player
Andy Fusco
too white? Are you implying something racist against white jazz musicians?
Crap camera work BBC
37 years ago with huge cameras. Crawl back under your rock.
Of course very good players. But. Sax special out of balance (bariton too much to hear, maybe the sound engineer was sleeping. Special chorus tutti is played without any dynamics (the score says here: begin with p). Too much powerplay.
Listen to the original in a mellow tone recording with ellington... the baritone is lead in that tune when it comes to the in a mellow tone melody...
Dude, it was 37 years ago - give the techs a break - sheesh!