Why Cleaning the Seine will Fail
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
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This is a video about the 1.5 billion dollar cleanup of the Seine.
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Paris, Urban Planning, Design
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Obviously the german you found is Simplicissimus. I'd recognize that german boy any day of the week (mostly wednesday thogh 😜)
omlette du fromage
Haha, I left a comment on the Putin underground bunker fern video a few weeks ago, asking if Hoog had another channel or if the channels shared a voice actor.
@@thevis5465 Curious! I am very intelligent.
Do you know know the term "sewage"?
this aged well
and smells
“tHiS aGeD wElL” copy paste ass comment 😭
@@Charlie-yi8cf cringe on yourself
@@Charlie-yi8cf found the stinky frenchmen
@@Charlie-yi8cf People complaining about copy-paste comments with copy-paste, NPC responses... 💀
I find it hilarious how professional this videos visuals and tone are and then out of the blue its like "The sewer system mixes the s*** water and storm water together". I wish more informative videos did that.
yea but teachers cant play it in class now :/
It's incredible
This feels like Half As Interesting or Wendover Productions cooler younger brother 😂😂
Yeah that was a strange choice of words
@@Imperial_Squidand much better than either of those channels too
"The people onboard, weren't on board." Perfect line
As a Parisian, I had friends in highschool that would go swim in the Seine. Naturally, once they got out of the water, they were no longer my friends.
I remember two years ago during the music festival there was a drunk dude who got into a fight and swam straight in to escape.
There were cops on boat fishing him up in no time with a nasty fine
Ca va, c'était juste pour un défi (que j'ai gagné par ailleurs).
jure c'était toi mdrrrr@@Greeneetch
Bv le pseudo
qui ?@@slg_sasha
Future Note: they messed up cleaning the Seine, and Paris became famous for athletes getting sick after swimming in the river.
@@MedElallami who got sick 🤢?
@@liammacaodha4783 there was footage of an athlete vomiting just after swimming
@@1280-user there are always atheletes vomiting after triathlon
@@hectorgonzalez3512 doped up chinese lol
@@hectorgonzalez3512 NPC?
This video aged like wine
More like shit.
@@Der.Geschichtenerzahler good wine? or u dont like wine, or what?
@@mike_w-tw6jd more like vinegar
Aged like a spoiled wine
@@earnestangel lmao YT deleted my comment i see
I love the way he says "shitwater". It's so professional.
i keep having to replay the vid just to make sure i heard him correctly, since CC wont show shit water lol
Imagine the amount of retakes required.😂
Haha!
Don't you mean eau de merde?
In an otherwise very well made video. But why stick with shit water? Mix it up! What about piss water? Used condom water? Bloody tampon water? Rush week puke water? Go big or go home.
It's 2023, no one should be overflowing sewage into a waterway. Absolutely not one to judge, we have combined sewer systems still in Michigan and it's absurd they haven't been separated yet. Especially with climate change increasing heavy rain events. Our outflow is the Great Lakes basin and fresh water is kind of important. More power to her and hope progress pace gets picked up worldwide (IJA is helping here some at least).
Detroit can barely afford to maintain its infrastructure, let along completely rebuild it.
yeah but it's so hard to fix, especially in cities like Paris with stupidly large and complex rail tunnel networks and high density. The fact that there's train stations like Châtelet-Les Halles being basically massive voids under Paris' center is both a marvel of civil engineering and a challenge...
Colonizers tend to learn the worst habits from the people they colonized.
easier said than done. Same thing is happening here in Hawaii. They allowed us to build years and years ago using cess pools and now want you to upgrade to septic tanks. But who is going to pay the 10k, 15k needed for the upgrade? Most people here are just barely making ends meet. We don't have the money to upgrade our septic even if they do help (which they dont). I totally understand the parisans who wont upgrade. The government should fully cover the cost if they are so desperate for it
@@Ntyler01mil during Snyder one of his many taskforces said statewide we were underfunding just water/sewer maintenance around half a billion... And added a footnote that their estimate was conservative. So, yep.
As a frenchman, excellent video! Thank you! On point humor, good descriptions, and nice 3d renders.
Hay Hogg, Excellent video as often.
I live 80km before Paris along the Seine and we swim in it all summer because the water looks really clean there. But when you take the train for Paris (along the Seine all the way) from my small town you can see every 10k the color of the water changing bit after bit, from the beautiful green color from where I live to the classic Paris' Brown™.
I really hope Madame Hidalgo can put her vision into reality even tho we're not there yet.
Also the canal in the north of Paris is already swimmable and hold small pools in the summer during 'Paris Plage'.
Have a nice day.
As someone who often walks by the quai of the canal Saint Martin and who have more than on one occasion witnessed boats dumping their waste in the water and felt the foul stench that irradiated from it, I don't understand those pools at all...
Doesn't look that brown to me on video
You haven't seen Poltva river brown™ colour
Poltva is the river that goes under Ukrainian city of Lviv, and in my village nearly 5 - 6 km away its still brownier than Sein
Brown water doesn't always mean disgusting shit polluted water. You might know of the very famous Yellow River in China, it is yellow/brown because of the silt and dirt 1000s of km upstream getting carried all along it's length.@@fanOfMinecraft-UAs_channel
@@sirjoey3137 Yes, but brown colour in Poltva is just badly treated shit, my dad said before the world's worst treatment plant was built, it sometimes stinked to our garden
The treatment plant is just useless piece of garbage
Also someone needed to put another plant somewhere before it overflows into river, from which Poles in Warsaw drink their water
Who the fuck says " Madame Hidalgo" ?
Parisian here. I fully support the actions to clean the Seine river. Hidalgo, Paris mayor is looking for lime lights. Cleaning the Seine river is OBVIOUSLY NOT an action limited to Paris but of all Departements and Régions bathed by the Seine. So real actions in water processing and garbage collection is needed, ABSOLUTELY. I can see some progress (Huge difference with my childhood in the 50s) in my home town of Asnieres (20km downstream of Paris). There are fishs, there are plants, animals, no smell, some devices to collect floating debris, bottles, etc, but still quite a lot to do.
I just hope that after it’s all said and done they don’t return to dumping raw sewage back in it, otherwise this sadly is just performative and for the sake of appearances.
South Korea had the same problem. Upstream of the Olympics they built a bridge type structure and loaded it with motor boat motors. Running hard they mixed oxygen into the water which destroyed many of the bacteria. Made a huge improvement.
I just spent some time Googling to try and link an article, but I can't find one. Ir was before Internet. I hope my memory is correct.
@@johnjeanb absolutely! River still not good for swimming, but i hope someday parisiens can swim and fishing at Seine. We have same problem at Moscow. May be our river little bit pure than Seine, but also not suitable for swimming.
@@OlegBulatov The difference in Moscow is that it's actually illegal to dump raw sewage anywhere. Being a Russian law however, it's often being ignored by private houses.
My own attempts to get a local authority to act on a very obvious dump of raw sewage into a tributary of Moscow river upstream of the city have, so far, been in vain.
There's a huge river going through my city. For decades now there was an international effort (it's a border river) to clean it up. And it was working! Until some mines upstream flushed all of their trash and caused a huge ecological disaster. If you want a clean river you have to protect it from its springs up to sea / ocean
I was watching Paris Olympics 2024 "Athletes hospitalized after swimming in Seine"..
personally if given a choice and I had been an Olympic athlete I'd have declined to compete.
@@JeffY-y3z that's why you are not an olympic athlete
@@zayd1111 so you're saying top athletes are mindless idiots
agree
@@JeffY-y3z Lets be honest here, if you were an athlete and trained so much and so hard to finally have the honor to compete in the OLYMPICS, you would not have the balls to just decline the chance... you would go for it to fulfill your ambition like any normal person would.
@@BoterKat Acanthamoeba keratitis, Amoebiasis, Cyclosporiasis, Giardiasis, Naegleriasis, Botulism, Campylobacteriosis, Cholera. E. coli Infection, M. marinum infection, Dysentery, Leptospirosis, Otitis Externa, Typhoid fever, Vibrio Illness, Hepatitis A, E, Norovirus, and Polyomavirus infections are so very easily cleared up. There are no long term health ramifications possible at all from swimming in fecal matter. As you say, they have trained intensely, they are in the best health of their lives. Why shouldn't they risk long, possibly lifetimes, of being painfully disabled, or even possibly death to compete. It takes balls, not brains, to compete, lifelong consequences be damned. If only there were a method, a way to easily prevent all the above infections.
Face it, someone on the French/Paris Olympic and or Olympic International Committee was just too cheap to build or assume control of a safe, decent, venue in which to hold the events that were held in the Seine. It kinda shows just how little the French and International Olympic Committees cared for the athletes health. One would hope that the athletes involved would have had the sense to tell the committee to "Eff" off you can take your Seine venue and cram it.
That Fern announcement was brilliant. 🤣
felt the sameee
@@Joe-sg9llyOuRE aN NpC 🤓🤓🤓
@@Joe-sg9lljoe
It was so surprising but I watched through the whole thing instead of skipping so i guess it works
Inprisonned german
In 2012, Portland, Oregon completed the Big Pipe Project to reduce combined sewer overflows, at a similar price tag. But it's worth mentioning that the three Big Pipes are really just the second line of defense.
The humble first line is preventing so much runoff from going into the sewers in the first place: rain gardens and stormwater sumps disconnect downspouts from the sewer and send the rain into the ground, like it did before all the pavement. Clean streams from outside the city that had been canalized through the sewer were given their own, separate pipeline to the river. And some of the combined sewers were separated, with the stormwater going to a large, newly reconstructed wetland.
It took 20 years, but rainy Portland went from 2100 hours of overflow each year to 13.
but you still dont want to be dumping that direct into the rivers too
Good FYI. Am a Portland Metro resident so this is very good to know 👍
As an Oregonian (Klamath Falls) that’s been away serving in the Army for 26 years (Infantry) I didn’t know the details of that project. You’re pretty insightful on your overview and history, well done sir.
I have been swimming downtown portland off the Hawthorne dock for years now. Although the algea blooms this year have been not good
Unfortunately It looks like the shit has come back to Portland and this time it’s all over the streets. Often the current shit has blue or purple hair and would melt if exposed to a third world countries day to day life but is still pushing for anarchy.
It seems Portland will need to drastically update its sewage system before these pieces of shit don’t have anywhere left to get a fancy coffee.
bro predicted it 😭
Yea all the athlete swimmers now sick
quick what are the lottery winning numbers
@@carterm715 seine already in clean up since 2016
@@Adara787 And failed.
@@TenHorizons Good catch. Maybe
Crazy how much Olympics shape urbanism. Daniel and I were recently in Barcelona and we learned that the same happened with the city beach (Barceloneta) in ‘92. Thanks for the amazing content!! And congrats for fern!! suscribed 🧡 love from Valencia
While the olympics is a huge money sink and much of the stuff built is just left to rot, occasionally some good things do come out of it. Too bad this money could not be raised to clean the river without the olympics.
Yes. So many infrastructure projects in LA right now with 2028 goals to meet the Sunmer Olympics.
Who's Daniel!??🤣🤣🤣
Say hi to Daniel for us!
@@auralarchipelago hi back!
German urban planner here :)
60% of the german canalnetwork is a mixed system... We need to change that in the near future. Doing so is incredibly expensive though. Also, separate systems come with the disadvantage, that the rainwater won't end up in a water treatment facility, but instead flow straight into the rivers. This might not sound bad at first, but rainwater, especially in urban environments, is contaminated with heaps of things (carbon emissions picked up by rain from the air, litter, tirerubber picked up off the streets, all sorts of dirt transported by air that end up on rooftops, the list goes on). Some cities, such as cologne, have a separate water treatment facility just for rainwater. This is the ideal way to do it and should be the standard. However as I said before, this is an extremely costly thing to do, especially if there's only a mixed system in place. Switching system means digging up EVERY street and reconnecting EVERY house via two separate connections. So yeah, not really something that's done within the span of a year, but rather a slow process that'll be done piece by piece over several years.
Are Saudi migrants capable of doing it at all considering they didn't do it in their own country before leaving?
Making the city more proud itself so that rainwater can slowly filter down into water table rather than the river being a drain is another way too.
@@actually5004nope, the eurocucks won't admit that letting illegals in to collect welfare and commit crime in mass while simultaneously having enough money to eat out in expensive restaurants and fly back to their home country as vacations spots is a good idea
Expensive but is badly needed because of environmental impact and dwindling source of fresh water.
@@actually5004 What has this to do with migrants at all? Building planners plan seperate rain and used water systems to the street. There diffrent piping systems in the streets are planned by infrastructure planners. According to the tender and plans the system gets build. Companies will mostly use qualified personell. If standards aren't met and the contact gets violated, the building company will be held accountable and has to redo the work until the agreed standards are met.
I live in Munich and always thought being able to bathe in the river in the middle of the city was a norm.
I was so surprised when I went to Paris and Rome.
Having a swimmable river is such a big thing. Every city if possible should have one. Maybe they could also add a surfing wave like we have in Munich :P
Your comment is so Munich 😂 it's adorable, never change Bavaria
@lif6737 Thousands of Canadians regularly swim on Lake Huron in the summer, which borders Michigan, and it's very clean. If Toronto's lakefront is dirty, the blame is on Toronto.
I live in Jax Florida US of A and it's the same but then again we are very evomentalo concess people who never let the river fall to such a state.
Melbourne has the same issue, no swimming allowed
In Berlin, you can swim in it's many lakes. The river, not so much
Here in Basel, swimming in the Rhine River is a huge thing, on hot days there are thousands floating down the river. I wish Paris the best of luck in achieving their goal.
beni grad höt gse👍🏻
@@Filoilemich war im zürisee😀👍
Rhine river is much larger than the Seine and get clean water from the Alps flushing easily the waste germans cities throw in it, it's not really comparable
Thousands of what, floating down the river?
Well, guess what? The Rhine water is not clean as well. Especially since the Rhine has so many small rivers ending in it. Almost every city near the Rhine has something called an overflow, which is like a barier in the sewer, which water can flow over if the water rises high enough which happens when it rains a lot or actually not even necessarily a lot. And that water is contaminated. Also, from the just recent floods in Germany, there were masses of contaminated water flowing down the Rhine. And i often see people and even kids playing in or near the water, after floods or heavy rain. When right next to them, there is water from the sewers directed into the Rhine. And that's also what it smells like, but people apparently are unbelievably stupid. Obviously, all this shit is flowing downstream, but this is not being talked about because people don't care. Only if something bad happens someday, they will use their brain a little bit.
This aged like fine wine
like a fine shitwater
If it aged like fine wine then the seine would be clean
@@baka3262it aged like fine wine.
In an ironic way, obviously.
@@Calvin704704 LOL!!!! 😳
The plot stenches.
8:15 "maybe just dont shit in a public river" that had me laughing on the floor
Yeah, can’t tell who’s shittier: home boat owners, or the Seine?
I can't believe that needs to be said anywhere science is known... blows my mind
Who’s watching this now?
I come from the future to say: IT FAILED. CONGRATZ, FRENCH PEOPLE
🤣 called it
He was right 😂
@@quandovoceleroscomentarios9622 well it did work..
As a French i am cringing....1.5 Billions Fucking Euro wasted for the Bruised Ego of Macron.
It is remarkable how fast the production value of your channel is improving. This is amongst the best stuff out there. Keep going!
my videos are also of this quality
8:06 "but the people onboard, weren't onboard" - made my day 😄
Every time you say "Shit Water" i start laughing uncontrollably lol.
Oh man I love the balance between informative and shitpost. It's just perfect. The introduction to the fern channel was made beautifully
I honestly hope more cities go in the direction she’s going in. Europe’s already less car centric than America, but I’m still surprised at how many rivers there are that are close to or are basically just open sewage.
This week a group of the Paris administration department will come to Basel to inspire why Swiss people can swim in the rivers. Years ago the rivers in Switzerland were polluted too but in the recently years they changed that and there's everyone swimming in the rivers like in Bern, Zurich and even Basel that has a lot of industry there
They will need to do what Switzerland did x 10 so it can have any effect in Paris. We're talking apples and oranges here. In comparison Switzerland is the outer urban area of Paris plus its country side.
You go the usual American route of talking about Europe as if it were a country. Many European countries have solved these problems, the shit rivers are left in for example France.
Europe in many ways is more comparable to Asia than America from a diversity standpoint. You also wouldn’t mix in China, Thailand, and Kazakhstan into one and make a problem Russia might have, one of Asia as a whole. It just doesn’t make much sense
@@ja_u Europe _in general_ is less car-centric and I never said every river in Europe was a shit river, it’s just a surprisingly consistent story across different places in Europe, especially historically. Not that solving that problem in each country would mean the same thing.
@@ja_ularge parts of these efforts are done on a state level in the US, or city-wide levels. In this case there is really no problem at comparing individual cities from across the US with individual cities across Europe.
And as the result, many athletes were hospitalized with one contracting e. coli. 😢
2 athletes abandoned, but no link with the water quality has been found, and they didn't find any e.coli either.
@@adk_88 are you sure about that...???
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Stop spreading bs
@@gaetanamiens9629 gaslight much...??? It's on the news.
@@samprasfoon06 its been debunked , it wasne e colli
As a Frenchie, I’m impressed by the quality of this video. Thank you for your incredible work!
I am sorry to hear about your disability. I will pray for you 🙏
@@Haverlock Are you from Great Bretain by any mean ?
@@dreamyangel1858 No
too bad that's an untreatable disease,i give my condolence to you my friend
My condolences, no one deserves your fate 😢
6:30 I really love the way "shitmixed stormwater" rolls off the tongue
Well this aged...
This video is on point, a mix of professional presentation, understandable information and humour is always refreshing.
4:53 that delivery lmfao
He said "...hard to grab object..."
That pun 😂😂😂
That's the problem with these over romanticized places. The reality is that Paris smells, the cafes have become over priced tourist traps with way too many tourists everywhere, and everything is overpriced.
Yeah the problem with everyone of those problems is tourists. Overtourism is a cancer in many cities in europe
Every city in the western world
@@Satan-lb8pu tourism drives the economy for many places. Try telling all the people employed by tourism that tourism is cancer
I agree 100%
@@jeremyjackson8196 Not exactly! Can you even name ONE French city other than Paris, my American friend? Exactly... The ones you can't name are (relatively) fine! ^^
Hey Hoog, I'd love to see videos on urban design and reviewing cities from around the world wether it's because their designed amazingly or terribly, for example perhaps a review of Amsterdam, Hong Kong, Reykjavik, Helsinki, Copenhagen, Barcelona, Montreal, Freiburg, etc.
would love to see stockholm too
All those old city sewer systems need reform. Just do it, we wont notice it with the extra 200 dollar a year, and the toilet don't overflow. Every time it overflows, the cost to me as a home owner is so much more.
>around the world
>Basically only Europe
I mean, europe just has a lot of interseting cities due to its long history@@__-rt5tm
@@__-rt5tm Well yeah... Europe has better cities than other places in the world... There either to poor (e.g) India or to capitalistic like the USA for example. Europe has the balance which allows it to develop walkable pedestrian cities. There are a few here and there outside of Europe but by far Europe is the best in this regard. In part due to colonialism and imperialism, it's had a foundation of design and planning for centuries the same cannot be said about The USA for example.
Switzerland used to have immense problems with unclean water especially due to chemical dumping back in th 20th century. However we introduced sweeping reforms and laws and today almost all open bodies of water are completely drinkable and swimmable. Even in big cities like Zurich you can literally see the bottom of the Limmat (multiple meters deep) on a nice day.
I'm going there to enjoy the nice Leman lake because of its clear waters 🥰🥰
@@TheLily97232 It wasn't always clean. All those multi-million houses along the banks (Swiss and French sides) used to dump everything into the lake. That was all changed ( in the 70s, I believe).
Now you can swim, dive or go sailing in clean water.
As a Swiss citizen I'd never try to drink any of this water intentionally, but swimming is safe and pleasant that's for sure.
Switzerland looks beautiful.
Yes, the water looks clean, but of course it is not drinkable. It is full of microplastics and other bad stuff. Even today chemical splils happen on the Rhine.
I love discovering channels like this one. Really informative and entertaining.
As a show of support, I let the ads play to their full length.
Truly inspiring to know that it's just one person creating these videos. Incredible work as always
I will easily surpass his quality if you keep your eyes open
Bro, I love how honest you can be in your videos. An unapologetic creator is a breath of fresh air.
Yeah, fuck wokes and peoples afraid of words
So yeah the river is not clean for the Olympics :D
ewwwwwwwwww imagine drinking that sewage omfg! those idiot swimmers should have sat out in protest
And they still used it
@@jonathanhanson9977 🤮
The mix of such high-quality video production and the casual use of "shit water" is beyond hilarious to me
Almost cried from the Fern announcement! I always consume English content and most of them are always so US-centric it is hard to watch. Such a relief to see a Europe-centric channel in English. Thank you for doing this!
Yes finally! Enough us content in ytb
And once again I am so happy that my city (Kiel, Germany) has had a separated sewage system since 1925. Watching these videos of the sewage problems in Paris or the UK just makes me happy I can swim on our beaches without worrying about wastewater. Only one small neighborhood in the entire city has a conbined sewage system and that one is getting replaced too.
I'm french and it comes as no surprise to me. Germans typically know and anticipate best. I'm glad you get to enjoy that!
@@RomNYC yes, bit not all cities in Germany are like that. Most cities in northern and eastern Germany have seperated systems while most in southern and western Germany don't. That's why Munich or Stuttgart have the same problems as Paris while my city on the Baltic Sea does not. Hamburg and Berlin are also really interesting, they have a mixed system in the centre were they built it first, but have a separated sewage system everywhere else. These cities also heavily invest into storage facilities just like Paris. But as I said, I am glad my city does not have to deal with that stuff anymore. Only one small neighborhood in the north has that problem and since it is only like 20 streets they are separating rhe sewage system street by street there so that in like 10 years or so the entire system in the city is separated, making the already very good water quality in the Kiel fjord perfect once and for all
Only 35% of German cities have separated sewage. France rate is higher.
@@walideg5304 as I said, I am only talking about my city, especially in southern Germany many cities like Munich have the same problem as Paris
@@haisheauspforte1632wdym? Munich has swimmable rivers
They cleaned up the strait in Copenhagen several years ago. everyone loves the swimming areas, a huge amenity for the city!
Damn you dans and your efficiency
To be fair it's a canal, not a river (sea water, not fresh water). Still a big achievement but it's easier to do.
What an amazing color scheme and presentation! Good work, very well done.
The production of your videos never cease to amaze Hoog. Keep up the good work.
my production quality is on par just I need to pump out more :)
6:00 shit mixed storm water
That’s a sentence I didn’t expect
It's France special defense.
@@elfingourmeto1230 🤣
How do you sound so sincere and professional when talking about shit?
Sydney City did a similar thing around its Barangaroo district and plans to make the entire Sydney Habour swimmable.
The parameters for that, however, are 10 years of consecutive clean water tests before being able to be opened up as public swim holes.
This last year saw the first of those being approved.
Heavy industry and malpractice from the last century are unfortunately not something that can be easily reversed in a mere year or so.
Good luck to Paris
Good luck swimming in Sydney with all the sharks! 😂
@@daspec maybe the waste water killed them all off by now 🤷♂
We had a toxic reef here outside the Hamilton Steel District and for the first time in centuries its has life. Its slow, its hard but everyday little actions give me hope that'll we'll fix this
Hoog is always peak content, keep it up man!
I really like your bold language and direct approach on describing delicate situations! keep it up!
I knew that the high quality videos of fern had to come from another great quality channel. Well, I found it ! I really appreciate the quality of the videos as well as the more European focus. Amazing job, keep going !
Fascinating. I hope this succeeds. In addition to attracting swimmers, I'm sure cleaning up the river would also improve the smell!
spoiler: she failed
athletes got sick after swimming in shit river 🤢🤢
This reminds me a lot of the Thames Tideway project they are constructing in London. Here all the overflow pipes are being redirected into a big new sewer tunnel following the route of the Thames but at a depth of 10 or so meters below the river bed.
Don't get why they don't do this instead.
To get homeowners to connect to the sewer system, give them two options : either connect, or install their own septic system with strict environmental laws. They will all switch to the sewer system as it will cost them a lot more money upfront and over time to get their own system. Plus they'll lost a lot of space as those systems need clear ground to work.
that's how it is already for decades
the second option does not even work in Paris. most houses will not even have a garden. they would still need to use public space for it.
Also the biggest challenge is to avoid that they would just go on strike again. This is Paris we talk about. French people are already good at protesting for about anything. But the Parisians are the next level. they will just block the city for weeks if needed.
Bro thinks forcing people to spend 10k to 20k is gonna make them happy they probably didnt do it cause they dont have money to begin with.
@@spaceygnat19908...What facts lead you to believe that people living in downtown Paris are POOR?
Please stay in school.
@@spaceygnat19908 its Paris they have the money Paris is in the Top 10 of the most expensive city the land is insanely high they just dont care
The 1.5 Billion didn't go too well eh?... someone in France is good at washing money ;)
washing it with...shitwater
I love how you indiscriminately call it "shit water" instead of some more professional term. It cracks me up every time.
Sounds like what Chicago did. Though swimming in the Chicago river is dangerous for different reasons these days.
And... it rained. Merit to the video creator for being spot on
I saw a Gallic man swimming in the Seine when I was growing up in Paris in the 1980s, once. He was putting his back into it too. This was right by the Île de la Cité. I remember marvelling at him doing this because the Seine was none too clean.
Fun Fact: The Seine is not only the most disgusting river in Paris. It is also the cleanest one, the longest one, AND the shortest one.
I live the professional feel to the video and the informal speech it’s so engaging 😭
It's a bit sad to me that the Parisians don't feel the need to connect their boats or houses to the sewer systems.
Like, regardless of the upcoming Olympics, do you really want the major river flowing though your city to be literally full of shit??
The problem is more complicated than that but yes, paris have a huge part of building only for renting with huge benefits but owners don't see why they will pay a price for just a river they don't really care about and who will not make money in the process.
They're French. Of course they don't care.
@@Haverlock no. even other people in other countries don't care. USA can be an great example of that 😂.
I think they've been offered enough carrot, and it's time to break out the stick.
Pure selfishness. The issue is that they seem to have asked nicely instead of also threaten them with a penalty if they don't connect to the sewer system.
Very Impressively presented Sir. I am amazed by the quality and narration style.
One small point, can there be any way to show depth compared to surface level when showing underground structures? It will be helpful i think.
crazy how this literaly happened on the FIRST DAY during the rain in the opening ceremony
As a Parisian this was very informative , well done! Although your portrayal of Hidalgo is quite kind in my opinion but that’s another subject 😅
Why don't you like Hidalgo, as major of Paris? she did amazing imo, ofc if you're a heavy car user I can understand your point of view but that's a necessity
@@Assassunn not a car owner at all, her car policy is one of the only things I agree with haha
For me I really dislike some of the amenities she’s implementing (removing some historic furniture and replacing them with ugly ones Imo)+ hasn’t delivered on cleaning up the city. Also the cour des comptes report about the city’s accounts are fucking terrible lmao, just giving money left and right to random “NGOs” owned by her friends who do nothing for the city.
@@agathacccc2710 I agree with your concerns but I still think she's the best mayor Paris has had in a long time. She transformed the city in ways that both Chirac and Delanoë were incapable (Or unwilling?) to pull off.
@@agathacccc2710 ah good old politicans being politicans - doesn't matter the wing they're all fucked.
wonder why he calls her "Hildago"
How long will it take to clean a river that's been polluted by humans for 2000+ years?
You know, water flows !
@@lvleminckx yep, right into the river.
Then to the ocean, Taking a lot of the waste with it... 🤔
@@ArnoldRockefeller but not enough to clean all the sediment filled with poo
Surprisingly not a Lot. Water flows, replacing itself, SO once you're able to get a clean river You should be able to mantain it.
As always, great video! Really like your style of doing these videos, both visually and narrative -wise
I hope this comes true. It would be such an important step in the right direction!
My partner raced in the Olympic triathlon test event 10 days ago. The individual race included the swim in the Seine but the Mixed Relay had the swim cancelled due to "water quality reading discrepancies". I have not heard of any major sickness post the race but it begs the question of whether this is a viable race for the athlete's safety. It is an incredible location and idea but seems to be a largely political and symbolic goal that I hope the French and Parisian government makes alternative plans for the race if the plans are not met.
1st time watching your channel, I love how this is professionally edited yet the dialogue scripts are funny as hell
I value the content, and considering the nature of the channel's material, the term "shit water" truly scratches my brain when I hear it in this context. While I grasp the challenge of segregating sewage from rainwater, it's important to recognize that”shit water” harbors not only bacteria and germs but also other substances. For example, excluding human feces from toilets , we have pollutants from the kitchen or other household appliances where grease and other substances can break down over time, releasing toxins that are detrimental to human health. 🤔
To get the point across you gotta call it what it is 🤣
NEEEEERD
Every time he used the word shit it kinda made me cringe. Felt like a young kid who was finally allowed to say it in front of his parents so had to get it out as many times as he could.
@@ollythomas6702
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@@ollythomas6702 If I may ask, are you American? Because I suspect this is mainly a difference between how the word 'shit' is treated in the UK (and hence the Netherlands) versus the USA.
Well, at least they made a good start at it. I hope none of the athletes who got sick will be permanently affected by it.
@@lasttempoinparis Do you understand what a contagious respiratory disease is?
@@lasttempoinparis The Covid cases were isolated to help stop airborne contagion by breathing on others. The dysentery and gastroenteritis from e. coli was in the water, so if that made you sick you couldn't directly infect others by breathing on them, not necessary to isolate them. Even with vaccines, try not to get Long Covid, you won't like it.
It’s hilarious how the mentioning of the Notre Dame came with a clip of it burning lolol
Hi, im from Singapore, and talking about cleaning rivers, you should look at PM Lee Kuan Yew's mission to clean the SIngapore River and actually achieved it!:) All these without the technologies that you just described:)
just watched the video telling the news that multiple olympics athletes fell ill after swimming in Seine ruver
Europeans: "We are so much more sophisticated than those brutes across the ocean."
Also Europeans: "We refuse to stop defecating in the public waterways."
Well you also have to realize that said sewer system is from 19th century. At that same time people in the US still owned slaves... Yeah... Things from that time arent exactly good from modern perspective now are they?
@@dynamicequilibrium5322 Paris = / = all Europe. You USA always making stupid comments.
I took part in the Paris triathlon 10 years ago and we, 3000 participants, swam in La Seine right in front of the Eiffel Tower. So far I haven't contracted any strange disease. And my father did the same back in 1985 so although it is fobbed to swim on a normal day, triathlons have been possible in the recent past.
@@qsaze pretty coll
Pretty cool
Pretty e-cooli.
Time traveller here. The operation failed as multiple triathlon athletes fell sick after contracting e.coli from swimming in the Seine.
Still 5 month later and I'm still seeking this video out solely for that ferntv plug...hands down best channel drop I've ever seen
Thanks for the great video (as always), I'm glad to know more about the plan my hometown is following, hope they'll make it.
PS : Just a head's up, her name is HidaLgo and not HiLdago ;)
PS's the word
1:50 "But to also make videos for people who live in Europe but consume English content"
UK has left the chat
All jokes, loved this video!
I loved even the story about how Fern started 😂 love this! Good storytelling skills
This video is hilarious, not sure how intentional that was, glad to hear Paris is making a strong effort to turn things around
I don't know how long these kinds of projects take. Considering what the Monongahela river used to be and how it is now, I know it's not completely unfeasible.
This aged great
An excellent video, Hoog! Extremely informative. The world tips its hat to France and the Paris mayor for their bold, innovative plan to restore the Seine River to its original, natural, clean and healthy state. I hope before I die, I can sink my feet into that clean river and read my Camus. Thank you, France.
@9:30 "... and are named things I couldn't be bothered to pronounce..." kind of like the mayor, Anne HiDALgo lol. Great video though! Super informative!
I love the combination of knowledge, top notch visuals and potty mouth. You got a new fuckin' subscriber.
Damn dude, this aged like fine a wine. Congrats.
0:04 the Seine is NOT the only river inside Paris, there are also :
- la Bièvre
- le canal Saint-Martin
- le canal Saint-Denis
- le canal de l'Ourcq
i love the high production value and the perfect use of the word "shit" to describe shit.
To me you tried as hard as needed instead of as hard as you can. I really like to see it as it is rare in our high pressure society. Good work man, funny and informative at the same time
Thanks Kino
To think that all these insanely costly plans could've been avoided if only there was rational action earlier
it's not a question of rational action. When the sewage system was built in Paris it was one of the most advanced and forward thinking in the world. Times change, rationalism changes with it
De kwaliteit van de inhoud en productie blijft verbazen. Bedankt! :)
Great videos, great humor, great analysis, great images !
Big fan of your chanels.
As a young (french) european, i feel pretty connected to you.
As i feel we're sharing the same vision on the world.
Plus, i'm a fan of dutch infrastructures 😅
PS: as a french i must correct you, you're pronouncing Hidalgo's name wrong, you're saying Hildago.
I'm glad, the limmat and lake zurich are so clean
Its pretty nice to have a swimmable lake/river right in the city :D
arrête tu va me faire déménager en suisse
I was amazed when I was in Zurich, it's so clear you can see the fishes and the bottom from any bridge...!
Brussels went through a similar process with the zenne. You still can't swim in it, but it does have fish again. Love the video, very informative. To me, the question of where my shit goes to is absolutely fascinating.