thank you for sharing this, because I'm one of those people that do what you do. and if I'm put in such a position I'll keep you're information in mind.
I got in bootcamp as E1, I passed my 1st PFA and DEP test and got E2.. I also applied to be section leader and I was one. Not just that, all my 2nd and 3rd phase inspection are 5.0, also my section got the lease hit during inspection. Also I passed all 3 tests and PFA..I got advanced to E3. My RDC managed the female house. I had to work extra hard not only to get myself into the 10%, but also I need to make my section looks good for inspection to make my RDC acknowledged that I do work hard. I only talked to my RDC like 3 times over the 2 months training.. So for future recruits that lives in your brother div's house, you need to work extra hard to get advanced..
Tee H I was in bootcamp from June to August 2015. The test is easy, you will get a lot of time to study those..I spent 2hrs studying for each test. Are you going to bootcamp?
Silverwood Productions just focus on the START guide and you should be good to go. That's what I did, just mastered the START guide.. everything else you will get those in bootcamp
Thank you for tell me this, He worked hard in the dark. Though his work was not seen by his instructor. Make sure you are seen doing the work. Thank you for telling me this.
The way I found to pass each exam was to study continuously, not take leave this adds up at the end of your enlistment. and to create a game out of it and each person in the class is your competition for end game points so that's how I proceeded to achieve a 90.70 average in GM A school. It is all about pride in your work if you're planning on becoming a Gunner's Mate. It's definitely not for everyone.
Basically, the triangle higher ups can only pick the triangle workers for the 10%, and the square higher-ups can only pick the squares, aka, they can only pick people from their own division(square/triangle). What's unfair is that soldiers who are square can live in a dorm filled with mostly triangle people, and most importantly, only triangle instrustors/commanders(promoters). Meaning, no matter how hard a square works for those 3 faces(triangles), the ultimate person who really matters, who is the only one that can choose you for the 10%, is not there to see you work hard because they live in a separate building->where most of the squares live(the drawing on the right). This is for an integrated division aka where triangles and squares are mixed together. For an all male division, there is no triangles or squares, there is only all circles :) Correct me if im wrong, but the triangles and squares are divisions right? And in those divisions for an integrated house, there can be both genders for each division, yes? Oh, and on a note, it is also possible that they did see you work hard but they didn't promote you because you did all those things for the other house, not their house, so it didnt matter to them. So maybe, if a person goes to the other(their main division) house, the one they don't currently live in, to do those things, they may be seen to be qualified for the 10% in that main division, but mostly -> 8:15 Going to the other house would just be weird
How do you understand?Literally the simplest explanation from a nice Guy!Cant wait to be a Marine.This was me at work.I would work hard in the little things my manager couldn’t see but somehow saw when I was on my phone during my shift.
My recruiter mention that with my AA degree, and I'll be going in as an E-3. My question is if I do the necessaries as you explain in the video will I get promoted to an higher rank?
shit, I want to come out of basic a pfc or specialist so bad, I will grind my ass off if I have too. I'm going in as an E-1 and I'd be happy coming out an E-2 just anything to get a freaking patch on my uniform, I don't want to come out with nothing.
JustYoon nope. Army, l thought about joining the marine's but I had a situation where my recruiter had been trying to get me in the Army for like 7 months, and I didn't want to back out on him at the last second.
BenDover9561 it’s basically saying you have to make a sacrifice. You can either be a guy and live with a bunch of girls but never get promoted. Or live with dudes and get promoted XD
*Both of the examples are integrated houses.. *One house (the 🔺) is oversaw by female instructors the other (◼) is oversaw by male instructors (i.e. his instructors) *🔺 =females ◼= males * he was in the integrated house with the female instructors thus his instructors never really saw him working hard.
You've repeated the same scenario 3 times and it still doesn't make sense the triangles and integrated division. How do you be a triangle in a triangle house what's the difference between those houses?
Thank you, Yoon. This was very helpful. I've watched most of your videos and find them all to be some of the most informative in regards to the Navy. I'm thinking about joining in the Spring of next year, so I really appreciate your efforts at educating future sailors and sharing your experiences. One question for you: do you know much about the Cryptological Technician ratings? I'm thinking about trying for the CTI rating, but I've heard its very hard to qualify for (everything from the DLAB test to the DLI schooling afterwards). I've alway enjoyed linguistics though. Do you have any input? I look forward to your future videos! They have been very helpful for me personally. Thanks,
+Donavon Wilbanks Hey Donavon, I didn't forget about you. I did some digging around and got to meet an experienced CTI. The job is a top secret position so the information the individual could tell me wasn't much. So... It is very rewarding position, not a lot of stress, translate well into civilian life afterwards, gets deployed on ships, work in a secluded place, and a very great rate to get. Unfortunately, that's as much as I could get for you.
Charli Mile no. Females are in integrated divisions, so all the females from both sister divisions will sleep in and care for one house. It’s a 50-50 shot if you’re in with your own RDC’s or not.
So wait do the shapes represent male and female? Or something else? If they do why not just use M and F? I scored 98 on the Asvab and I'm still confused... 😂
you divided the rectangle in to two squares right? is that like 50 in both or what's going on with that? I'm also confused on why you put the triangles and the squares the way you put them
*Both of the examples are integrated houses.. *One house (the 🔺) is oversaw by female instructors the other (◼) is oversaw by male instructors (i.e. his instructors) *🔺 =females ◼= males * he was in the integrated house with the female instructors thus his instructors never really saw him working hard.
which branch were you talking about? that would straighten out a lot. USMC are strictly partitioned males/males, females/females so, you couldn't be talking of the Marines. squares/triangles?
+Jeremiah Whitfield Hey Jeremiah, E1-E3 are generally treated the same. It's not really until you hit E4 that people really start to notice you from my experience.
RobdoB 601 going into USN basic as an E3 you leave basic as an E3, doesn’t matter. E4 for Navy and Marines are non-commissioned officers, therefore those promotions are competitive, and generally you need to be in rank (E3) for 6months before you can test. However, you can’t strike the test while in A school. So, showing up to basic as an E3 means you can’t test for E4 until the first test cycle after you graduate A school.
JustYoon ok sweet! And another quick question, for the swim I think you have to swim 450 yards. But do you get a little break in between each lap or do you have to constantly swim with absolutely NO breaks (10 seconds or so to catch your breath)?
Bro if you have a degree, be a fucking officer. You’ll make double the money and have to do none of the bullshit work that enlisted does. You’ll end up making 4-5 times as much money in your career as and officer than you will if you enlist
RafDBiker96 it’s easy - if you’re in a division of all males, then you’re all in the same division. If you’re male-female division, then you’re in that integrated situation he was talking about. My division (02/450) was integrated, but I lucked out as I was in my own “house” with my division’s RDC’s, plus I maintained DivYeoman for the entirety throughout, so I left Great Mistakes as an E3.
Jon Smith, that’s actually easy. If you’re an all male division then you’re in your own house with your own RDC’s. If you’re in a male/female integrated division, then have to pay attention to which division’s RDC’s control which “house”. Your RDC’s, then it’s your house; other RDC’s then your in your sister division’s house.
*Both of the examples are integrated houses.. *One house (the 🔺) is oversaw by female instructors the other (◼) is oversaw by male instructors (i.e. his instructors) *🔺 =females ◼= males * he was in the integrated house with the female instructors thus his instructors never really saw him working hard.
+Racks69er You will know 100% which division you belong to when you boot camp. This only applies to integrated division (male female). If you go into all male division you wont have to worry about this.
hey Yoon, if you have a good amount of college credits, does this effect what rank you come in as?? I have 61 and am going to Bootcamp in August of 2016
+Guy Greenleaf I guess you might get in as E-3. I'm going to the BCT which is for Army in July and I enlist as E-3 just because I have more than 70 college credits. I dont know does it apply to any branch or not.
I'm Joy 22 years old. MAY 2017 I graduated with an Associate degree and currently I'm going for my Bachelor's degree I'm looking forward to joining the Navy as an officer, but I need some tips on how to become an officer and how they train the officers?
Hi Joy. At your school join the ROTC program. If your school doesn't have one find one in your area that does. Connecting with a officer recruiter wouldn't hurt. You would first go to an enlisted recruiter then they would lead you to the right direction. The enlisted recruiter, most likely, will try to get you to join enlisted first. They will try to say its a better way, but its not. They're doing their job of recruiting and filling numbers. So yeah, the biggest thing is find a ROTC within your school or in other schools and join.
Jolly Charleston You could enlist and then go MECEP (MECEP is basically the Marine's enlisted to officer program). I'm sure the Navy has a similar process. But MECEP is very competitive and I don't anything about you (fitness, brains, personality, etc.). I'd say try and find an officer recruiter and apply for the NROTC scholarship. You can get what's called a side load (2-3 year) scholarship that won't cover ALL expenses, but will still take off a huge chuck of money. I only know this because I'm a high school senior going through it all. Be ready for lots of paperwork and, most importantly, pay attention to the details. If you don't know something, ask someone who does.
I leave on April 4. So how will I know if I am in a integrated division or all male division? Will they tell me? Also if what happened to you happens to me, what should I do?
+luke selvage You will quickly know within few days. Either they will tell you, or you will see females in your division. The only tip I can give is to make sure you work hard to stand out. Take hard roles and be outstanding.
This may or may not be a stupid question but is there such thing as an all female division? I know this is the case for male divisions but I'm curious about the females.
if anyone is enlisting in the michigan national guard could i please use you as a referance so i can go in as an e-2. add me on facebook marcus halcomb
Prince Angelo Baybayan he might of had a few from getting collage credits from highschool classes but he signed up straight out of highschool or maybe right before he graduated. He’s very smart and was at the top of his class. A lot of depends on your rate I guess for promotion rates.
Gold must be meritorious promotion or a top guide at bootcamp otherwise its very rare to be E3 after bootcamp i only see 3 people got e3 in bootcamp i went 2017
VAULTZ #2 you get E2 if you do two or more years of jrotc, only one person can get E3 while in boot camp, and the person is the honor grad who was a contract E2
miguel Vasquez Not true for Navy. Honor Grad for Navy was the only one able to go from E1 to E3 upon graduation, everyone else was a single pay grade advancement. I got to basic as an E2, left an E3, and was not the honor grad.
+airman88 fusionfall legacy In RTC you can take DEP Test and pass to go from E1 to E2. If you take a leadership role and your instructors like you they can choose to also promote you again from E2 to E3. So yes, you can get promoted twice.
that's a stupid system 😑 you're basically saying you can choose to work your ass off but you have the potential not get noticed at all. that's lousy you'd think higher ups would say oh hey one one hour triangles is doing really well.
I can’t believe I came across this shit, surfing the net. Focus dude, focus. I joined the Navy 7/71, I was 17. I didn’t give a shit about rank or medals, I joined to fight a war. I was discharged 4 years later a GMG3. Went to Vietnam twice and held an E-5 billet my last 2 years. We lost the war and 58,000 men. Please focus on winning the damn wars. I’m 65 now and my country has been at war with somebody all my life. Train for war.........
Basically, what I got from it is, don't work so hard if your efforts will not be noticed anyway. What I want to know is how do you know your efforts will be noticed at all?
What if Im a square but I really identify as a triangle?
O_o
That's exactly what this GUY is doing he said he's a square but he is clearly a triangle lol
Pretty sure the military doesn't give a fuck during bootcamp specially the marines
Your fucked, out of the running.
I though it depend on your contract you signed.
How to make it complicated when u could make it simple.
facts
I'm so confused
thank you for sharing this, because I'm one of those people that do what you do. and if I'm put in such a position I'll keep you're information in mind.
I got in bootcamp as E1, I passed my 1st PFA and DEP test and got E2.. I also applied to be section leader and I was one. Not just that, all my 2nd and 3rd phase inspection are 5.0, also my section got the lease hit during inspection. Also I passed all 3 tests and PFA..I got advanced to E3. My RDC managed the female house. I had to work extra hard not only to get myself into the 10%, but also I need to make my section looks good for inspection to make my RDC acknowledged that I do work hard. I only talked to my RDC like 3 times over the 2 months training.. So for future recruits that lives in your brother div's house, you need to work extra hard to get advanced..
Tee H I was in bootcamp from June to August 2015. The test is easy, you will get a lot of time to study those..I spent 2hrs studying for each test. Are you going to bootcamp?
Silverwood Productions just focus on the START guide and you should be good to go. That's what I did, just mastered the START guide.. everything else you will get those in bootcamp
I leave in November, I've been studying the start guide, I really want to advance to E3 in basic, appreciate the advice.
Hey man, what branch are you going into? what day do you leave?
Inebriated Skunk navy. I leave November 27
Thank you for tell me this, He worked hard in the dark. Though his work was not seen by his instructor. Make sure you are seen doing the work. Thank you for telling me this.
9:06 And here you can see very accurate military style graphical demonstration about 15 things affecting each other in a very simple way.
So you are saying if you are a male in a integrated division you won't be seen because they focus on females in the integrated one's?
Making E-5 will forever change your life. GM2 thank you very much for making these videos. making this veteran's day.
Does C school still count towards your active duty service, and potential extend your service date?
The way I found to pass each exam was to study continuously, not take leave this adds up at the end of your enlistment. and to create a game out of it and each person in the class is your competition for end game points so that's how I proceeded to achieve a 90.70 average in GM A school. It is all about pride in your work if you're planning on becoming a Gunner's Mate. It's definitely not for everyone.
Yes, it still counts. Usually with C school they have a contract extension for a year.
lol a lot of anger with that writing but thanks for info.
So, basically no credit for simping. Got it. 💯💪🏾
Basically, the triangle higher ups can only pick the triangle workers for the 10%, and the square higher-ups can only pick the squares, aka, they can only pick people from their own division(square/triangle). What's unfair is that soldiers who are square can live in a dorm filled with mostly triangle people, and most importantly, only triangle instrustors/commanders(promoters). Meaning, no matter how hard a square works for those 3 faces(triangles), the ultimate person who really matters, who is the only one that can choose you for the 10%, is not there to see you work hard because they live in a separate building->where most of the squares live(the drawing on the right). This is for an integrated division aka where triangles and squares are mixed together.
For an all male division, there is no triangles or squares, there is only all circles :)
Correct me if im wrong, but the triangles and squares are divisions right? And in those divisions for an integrated house, there can be both genders for each division, yes?
Oh, and on a note, it is also possible that they did see you work hard but they didn't promote you because you did all those things for the other house, not their house, so it didnt matter to them. So maybe, if a person goes to the other(their main division) house, the one they don't currently live in, to do those things, they may be seen to be qualified for the 10% in that main division, but mostly -> 8:15
Going to the other house would just be weird
Well written and efficient.
Thanks, great tip
wow this is helpful ty!
How do you understand?Literally the simplest explanation from a nice Guy!Cant wait to be a Marine.This was me at work.I would work hard in the little things my manager couldn’t see but somehow saw when I was on my phone during my shift.
He would revise the cameras like a psycho over me using my phone a couple times
My recruiter mention that with my AA degree, and I'll be going in as an E-3. My question is if I do the necessaries as you explain in the video will I get promoted to an higher rank?
also after a school the top grade will be advanced to e4 automatically
Pay Attention to Point #1! The Most important 1st!
Great explanation!
shit, I want to come out of basic a pfc or specialist so bad, I will grind my ass off if I have too.
I'm going in as an E-1 and I'd be happy coming out an E-2 just anything to get a freaking patch on my uniform, I don't want to come out with nothing.
Marines?
JustYoon nope. Army, l thought about joining the marine's but I had a situation where my recruiter had been trying to get me in the Army for like 7 months, and I didn't want to back out on him at the last second.
Being in njrotc for at least 3 years I will go into bootcamp as an e3
Triangle is male? So then square is female... right? So you're a female then?
BenDover9561 shit confused the hell out of me
BenDover9561 it’s basically saying you have to make a sacrifice. You can either be a guy and live with a bunch of girls but never get promoted. Or live with dudes and get promoted XD
*Both of the examples are integrated houses..
*One house (the 🔺) is oversaw by female instructors the other (◼) is oversaw by male instructors (i.e. his instructors)
*🔺 =females ◼= males
* he was in the integrated house with the female instructors thus his instructors never really saw him working hard.
Right 😂
You've repeated the same scenario 3 times and it still doesn't make sense the triangles and integrated division. How do you be a triangle in a triangle house what's the difference between those houses?
I appreciate this video.
you got it Alex
Glad I chose infantry
did he explain honor graduate?
Sum it all up: He was a square in a triangle making circles. You take 10% of triangle equally perportional to the circle and square it.
This seems quite overexplained.
Wow that's bullshit! Lol thanks for the info! That's extremely important!
Thank you, Yoon. This was very helpful. I've watched most of your videos and find them all to be some of the most informative in regards to the Navy. I'm thinking about joining in the Spring of next year, so I really appreciate your efforts at educating future sailors and sharing your experiences.
One question for you: do you know much about the Cryptological Technician ratings? I'm thinking about trying for the CTI rating, but I've heard its very hard to qualify for (everything from the DLAB test to the DLI schooling afterwards). I've alway enjoyed linguistics though. Do you have any input?
I look forward to your future videos! They have been very helpful for me personally.
Thanks,
+Donavon Wilbanks Hey Donavon, I didn't forget about you. I did some digging around and got to meet an experienced CTI. The job is a top secret position so the information the individual could tell me wasn't much. So... It is very rewarding position, not a lot of stress, translate well into civilian life afterwards, gets deployed on ships, work in a secluded place, and a very great rate to get. Unfortunately, that's as much as I could get for you.
What if you're female, you live as a triangle house in the triangle instructors house no matter what?
Charli Mile no. Females are in integrated divisions, so all the females from both sister divisions will sleep in and care for one house. It’s a 50-50 shot if you’re in with your own RDC’s or not.
Nice handwriting!
So wait do the shapes represent male and female? Or something else? If they do why not just use M and F?
I scored 98 on the Asvab and I'm still confused... 😂
How did you score so high? Any tips?
@@johngobano6263 he is probably smart or studied
@@johngobano6263 I'm a sophomore and I scored a 71, I head that's pretty bad compared to graduate taking a asvab
I took picat instead... luckily I got 80th percentile so I don’t have to take asvab
you divided the rectangle in to two squares right? is that like 50 in both or what's going on with that? I'm also confused on why you put the triangles and the squares the way you put them
*Both of the examples are integrated houses..
*One house (the 🔺) is oversaw by female instructors the other (◼) is oversaw by male instructors (i.e. his instructors)
*🔺 =females ◼= males
* he was in the integrated house with the female instructors thus his instructors never really saw him working hard.
Hollywood ain't got nothin on the production and visuals, that this par excellent production.
Glad I ain't in the military anymore
do good in both houses.
which branch were you talking about? that would straighten out a lot. USMC are strictly partitioned males/males, females/females so, you couldn't be talking of the Marines. squares/triangles?
hey if there are people going to join the navy, can you please put me down as you referral, i leave begining of jan
How will i know what DI to impress?
So If I enlist in the Army reserves as a e-2. Is it possible to get promoted to e-3 after boot camp.
Not sure how they work. I believe the system might be similar.
Hi yoon 2021 is this info still valid?
Yes
are you from Philadelphia
So I have my 2 year degree which puts me as a E-3 Rank so my rank will not matter until after basic ?
+Jeremiah Whitfield Hey Jeremiah, E1-E3 are generally treated the same. It's not really until you hit E4 that people really start to notice you from my experience.
JustYoon I'm going in as E-3...how long till promoted to E-4? what's the highest rank I can expect to achieve while in BT going in as e3?
RobdoB 601 you apply and take a test for e-4 and above
RobdoB 601 going into USN basic as an E3 you leave basic as an E3, doesn’t matter. E4 for Navy and Marines are non-commissioned officers, therefore those promotions are competitive, and generally you need to be in rank (E3) for 6months before you can test. However, you can’t strike the test while in A school. So, showing up to basic as an E3 means you can’t test for E4 until the first test cycle after you graduate A school.
Forgot the JROTC program in high school can get promoted to e-2 and e-3 also
I didn't forget. I didn't put it in. Promotion In Boot Camp.
You come in as a e0 with no college credits
I am so comfused with the male being a square
Males house is the triangle ÷
If you have prior education like a associates degree could you be e3 right of the bat?
yes
So what your trying to say is that you are more likely to get promoted if you stay in your SSG house
hope that does not happen to me when i go in to boot camp.
If I have a bachelors degree, is that an automatic promotion to E3 after I graduate boot camp? Or before?
Make sure your paperwork is good to go and you will go into boot camp as E3
Thanks bro!
JustYoon ok sweet! And another quick question, for the swim I think you have to swim 450 yards. But do you get a little break in between each lap or do you have to constantly swim with absolutely NO breaks (10 seconds or so to catch your breath)?
for normal boot camp its not 450 yards. Maybe like 50 at best. for PST to try for special warfare is 500 yards non stop.
Bro if you have a degree, be a fucking officer. You’ll make double the money and have to do none of the bullshit work that enlisted does. You’ll end up making 4-5 times as much money in your career as and officer than you will if you enlist
If you're an Eagle scout you will be automatically promoted to E-2 in Army boot camp.
E3 for Navy! Maybe it depends on scout rank or time.
Thanks for the information in a minute!
I’m going in as an E3. Sucks you can’t promote to E4 in boot lol
How do you know if you're a square or a triangle?? And know what house you're in!!!
RafDBiker96 it’s easy - if you’re in a division of all males, then you’re all in the same division. If you’re male-female division, then you’re in that integrated situation he was talking about. My division (02/450) was integrated, but I lucked out as I was in my own “house” with my division’s RDC’s, plus I maintained DivYeoman for the entirety throughout, so I left Great Mistakes as an E3.
I thought it depend on the number of years you are serving on your contract. If you are doing 6 years you get E3 automatically.
Source?
how do you know if you are a triangle, and how do you know what house you are in
Jon Smith, that’s actually easy. If you’re an all male division then you’re in your own house with your own RDC’s. If you’re in a male/female integrated division, then have to pay attention to which division’s RDC’s control which “house”. Your RDC’s, then it’s your house; other RDC’s then your in your sister division’s house.
*Both of the examples are integrated houses..
*One house (the 🔺) is oversaw by female instructors the other (◼) is oversaw by male instructors (i.e. his instructors)
*🔺 =females ◼= males
* he was in the integrated house with the female instructors thus his instructors never really saw him working hard.
Do you take the dep test when you're in bootcamp or when you're in dep?
+Brandon Buffa When you are in boot camp. First week
p-day week?
How do you know if you're a square in a triangle division though
+Racks69er You will know 100% which division you belong to when you boot camp. This only applies to integrated division (male female). If you go into all male division you wont have to worry about this.
+Yoon Kim ohh okay I guess they tell you if it's integrated?
Well, if you are in an integrated division you will see females in your division.
JustYoon if you write that in the description a lot less people will ask you this question
He did say that..
We can’t all be squares in a triangle world
What if you identify as a number and not a shape?
I identify as a circle what do I do then
hey Yoon, if you have a good amount of college credits, does this effect what rank you come in as?? I have 61 and am going to Bootcamp in August of 2016
+Guy Greenleaf www.navycs.com/navy-advanced-paygrade.html
+Guy Greenleaf Talk to your recruiter he would need to submit the proper paper work.
+Yoon Kim Thanks man, keep it up with the videos!
+Guy Greenleaf I guess you might get in as E-3. I'm going to the BCT which is for Army in July and I enlist as E-3 just because I have more than 70 college credits. I dont know does it apply to any branch or not.
+黄文彪 48 credits and above gets you E-3 , confirmed with my recruiter :)
How many hours do you work a week in the navy?
+Johnny TheNinjaMan This week i am working 64 hours.
+Johnny TheNinjaMan Sometimes I work less and sometimes i work more.
Thank you for responding and making the videos
Oh... My bf is already in e3 when he joined. He's in boot camp right now. I was really hoping they could advance their rank in boot camp
frances tabanas he already ranked enough can’t be a leader with no experience
Is this marines or army? Army calls it basic combat training. Marines are boot camp if I'm not mistaken
Richard Hebert Navy
What about JROTC
What if your e-3 in sea cadets doesn't that garantee you that rate
Not that I am aware of.
going in as E3? yes.
promostions
I'm Joy 22 years old. MAY 2017 I graduated with an Associate degree and currently I'm going for my Bachelor's degree I'm looking forward to joining the Navy as an officer, but I need some tips on how to become an officer and how they train the officers?
Hi Joy. At your school join the ROTC program. If your school doesn't have one find one in your area that does. Connecting with a officer recruiter wouldn't hurt. You would first go to an enlisted recruiter then they would lead you to the right direction. The enlisted recruiter, most likely, will try to get you to join enlisted first. They will try to say its a better way, but its not. They're doing their job of recruiting and filling numbers.
So yeah, the biggest thing is find a ROTC within your school or in other schools and join.
JustYoon I'm in college and I don't have a ROTC program in my town. Why I can I signed as an officer? What can I do to make myself an officer?
Jolly Charleston
You could enlist and then go MECEP (MECEP is basically the Marine's enlisted to officer program). I'm sure the Navy has a similar process. But MECEP is very competitive and I don't anything about you (fitness, brains, personality, etc.). I'd say try and find an officer recruiter and apply for the NROTC scholarship. You can get what's called a side load (2-3 year) scholarship that won't cover ALL expenses, but will still take off a huge chuck of money. I only know this because I'm a high school senior going through it all. Be ready for lots of paperwork and, most importantly, pay attention to the details. If you don't know something, ask someone who does.
Officer Candidate School .. that’s what you want to look up if you don’t want to do two years enlisted first.
I leave on April 4. So how will I know if I am in a integrated division or all male division? Will they tell me? Also if what happened to you happens to me, what should I do?
+luke selvage You will quickly know within few days. Either they will tell you, or you will see females in your division. The only tip I can give is to make sure you work hard to stand out. Take hard roles and be outstanding.
Thanks bro.
I leave April 4th too!
See ya there!
I have 21 college credits. Is that helpful in gaining rank?
Aloysuis if you have 23+ credits you can go in as an Officer. So I would say take another class before you decide to join
I got mad at how over fucking explained this is. Lmao
seems like a communication problem for all parties involved, mostly misdirected initiative.
This may or may not be a stupid question but is there such thing as an all female division? I know this is the case for male divisions but I'm curious about the females.
+Katy Montejano they do not
JustYoon so there is no absolutely way that a female can be promoted even if she was an outstanding recruit who went above and beyond to help?
+Katy Montejano no, females will have the same chances as the males do.
JustYoon oh okay! Thank you for the clarification, it's very much appreciated.
if anyone is enlisting in the michigan national guard could i please use you as a referance so i can go in as an e-2. add me on facebook marcus halcomb
what if i fail the physical part?
no promotion
Is this for all branches? Air force?
I'm sure there are some similarities. Overall should be different.
I thought it went all the way to e9
At rtc, you're max advancement is e-3, no higher. It's after boot camp you start advancing more.
bro ive been in serving marines now for 2 years still E3
Feels bad. My brother is e3 before he left marine training
Gold he has collge credits i join after highschool and im on board right now for upcoming corporal my mos is 3052 it’s very hard to get promoted
Prince Angelo Baybayan he might of had a few from getting collage credits from highschool classes but he signed up straight out of highschool or maybe right before he graduated. He’s very smart and was at the top of his class. A lot of depends on your rate I guess for promotion rates.
Gold must be meritorious promotion or a top guide at bootcamp otherwise its very rare to be E3 after bootcamp i only see 3 people got e3 in bootcamp i went 2017
What about marines? i heard the max you get is E-2.
+Humza Sheikh I do not understand your question as to max at e2
+Yoon Kim can you get promoted past e2 in boot camp
Oh, unfortunately I do not know about Marines.
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Im in njrotc at my high school is it true i get e3 when i go to boot camp
VAULTZ #2 you get E2 if you do two or more years of jrotc, only one person can get E3 while in boot camp, and the person is the honor grad who was a contract E2
VAULTZ #2 or at least that's how it is for usmc
miguel Vasquez Not true for Navy. Honor Grad for Navy was the only one able to go from E1 to E3 upon graduation, everyone else was a single pay grade advancement. I got to basic as an E2, left an E3, and was not the honor grad.
As for NJROTC getting E3, you still have other requirements to hit to get there. If you don’t do any DEP time, then you’re at E2.
Jared Buetow ik after I posted that comment i commented again saying that's for usmc
But what if I identify as James Charles Trump Jr, where could they put me? Square or Triangle?
Promotion
It doesn’t happen...
If you’re a girl in a guys division, you’re screwed. If you’re a guy in a girls division you’re screwed.
wait you get promoted two times in bmt
+airman88 fusionfall legacy In RTC you can take DEP Test and pass to go from E1 to E2. If you take a leadership role and your instructors like you they can choose to also promote you again from E2 to E3. So yes, you can get promoted twice.
+Yoon Ho Kim nice every other branch just has a honor grad.
JustYoon
If you go in as E2 can you not get promoted past E3 in bmt?
Branch Dependent. Sorry!
misspelled promotions
I did
JustYoon you are a triangle not a square. You can't change your shape no matter what. Hell I identify as an octagon but I'm still just a triangle.
So basically if you get into a integrated division your not gonna get promoted
What if you identify as a figet spinner?
haha
What?
that's a stupid system 😑 you're basically saying you can choose to work your ass off but you have the potential not get noticed at all. that's lousy you'd think higher ups would say oh hey one one hour triangles is doing really well.
+Mizz Daria I don't believe its the system. I think its the RDC's lack of attention.
I can’t believe I came across this shit, surfing the net. Focus dude, focus. I joined the Navy 7/71, I was 17. I didn’t give a shit about rank or medals, I joined to fight a war. I was discharged 4 years later a GMG3. Went to Vietnam twice and held an E-5 billet my last 2 years. We lost the war and 58,000 men. Please focus on winning the damn wars. I’m 65 now and my country has been at war with somebody all my life. Train for war.........
Make videos
Bro why all the males and females and triangles 🤷🏾♂️. Wasted my time .
Why were you a girl ?
Didn’t understand shit
Sorry Adrain, i'll try to post a video in the future better explaining it.
You took forever and over complicated something so simple
This shit is confusing!
I'll try to make it clear in a future video
Basically, what I got from it is, don't work so hard if your efforts will not be noticed anyway. What I want to know is how do you know your efforts will be noticed at all?
Then u my dear will have issuss with the word comprehension portion..this was a simple explanation
Dude is so hard to follow
I'll try to make a better one in the future