Sharif’s Talks Offer Serious But Poorly Phrased; J&K Biggest Hurdle to India's Rise-Mushahid Hussain
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The Chairman of the Pakistan National Assembly’s Defence Committee, a former Minister of Information and Broadcasting and a former Minister of Communications, has said Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif’s offer of “serious and sincere talks to resolve burning issues like Kashmir” is serious and reflects a nationwide feeling in Pakistan that there is a need for a change in the relationship between India and Pakistan. Senator Mushahid Hussain says this is why the Pakistan Prime Minister has “taken the initiative”. However, asked what Prime Minister Sharif meant when in his interview to Al Arabiya he said “we have learnt our lesson”, Senator Hussain said this was “poor choice of words” and re-interpreted his Prime Minister to be speaking not just about Pakistan but the sub-continent as a whole. As the Senator (mistakenly but humourously) put it, his Prime Minister was using “the royal we”.
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Two patriotic pakistani citizens talking to each other and blaming India for all the problems under the sun. Karanuddin Thapar deserves to get Nishan e Pakistan.
He should get Hilale Pakistan
Such a useless discussion these guys are talking like india is dying to talk pakistan.
Ha ha ha... don't tell me
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Mushadid could make a great standup comedian
Summary of the discussion:
We are Pakistanis
We have nuclear power
We have no money
We have no food
We are not terrorists
RSS is terrorist
We are better than India
We need Kashmir!
😂😂😂😂
let them starve
Karan Thapar father was the general under whose leadership indian army was severely defeated by china and he bravely left the battlefield and resigned.
Yes, over these years this man has been a huge sham of India in the name of journalism
@@manthramurthy7549 your assessment of Thapar Sahab as a journalist is lop- sided and unfair . He is a true journalist who has raised the standard of journalism world-wide .
@@imteyazkhan1723he is one of the So called journalist who sucked India's journalism for several decades...
@@imteyazkhan1723 oh yeah by praising pakistan he surely does
You noticed how Karan Thapar cleverly approved him calling kulbhushan Jadhav a terrorist
Karan showing his complete incompetence in nailing the Pak Senator. He is himself so apologetic and agrees to the guest’s threat immediately. God save India from folks like Karan.
200 % correct you are
I support every Indian supporting Kashmiri people … they are our fellow citizens but we don’t have to be apologetic to any Pakistanis.
Karan cannot be faulted,he is bold and impartial.
@@sarathbabu1173 shut up
I doubt from whose seed 🤔 he came out ? I dbt his father was always away .
Imagine we have been surrounded by these types of journalists since 75 years and complaint about India's weak position against pak and the sufferings they inflected upon us.
Our fault for having let them rule the roost, instead of consigning to the garbage bin
But we Indian never influenced by media's propaganda 👍just look at election after election results 👍👍
Karan is so intense when criticizing PM Modi, but he listens patiently the B-grade Pakistani nonsense. Result:52 seats in Lok Sabha elections for Pappu.
Less than 40
actually the interviewer is drunk
Bogus interview. Cnt understand why Mr Karan is so patient & listening to this Pak. person . Total regret for this channel.
Not surprising given his lineage 😏
I would vote for zero
When Hussain said India forcefully occupied Kashmir u didn't condemned unfortunately u gave him a free pass to defend his argument.
2. Hussain is giving lecture to India.. Pakistanis can proudly say they have 135 UN designated terrorists and 25 UN designated terrorist entities.. i don't think any country in the world can achieve this achievement 😊
What can u expect from the wire, For modi hate they can except anything
That's why i donate to wire everyday whenever they ask for donations.. yes i am serious. Everyday i donate 10 crore rupees.
His father had publicly criticised the Indian Govt for conducting nuclear tests, while serving as India's ambassador to South Africa. A greater example of ingratitude, disloyalty and treachery you'd be hard put to find 😏 What go you expect of such s man's progeny 😱
@@praveenmalviya3604 😂
senile interviewer
I still don’t understand what Is there to talk about Indian side Kashmir?? Jammu, Kashmir and Ladakh were, are and will be integral part of India… if at all we talk with Pakistan, it has to be on POK
What a walkover this interview was. Not once this so called GOAT interviewer raised his finger when the pakistani was having a field day with his vacuous virtue signalling and propaganda.
👏👏👏 For you karan thapar for defending india so well.
That is how you let the people speak their mind real meaning of interview. Unlike Godhi media fish market
Toolkit in action against India... Great job Thapar !!!
i am reminded of Gen. Bipin Rawat and the 2.5 front war that india faces. China & Pakistan and the intellegencia inside India which supports this nonsense.
He himself seems to be a holy cow on Pakistan. A useless debate as the guest is taking Pakistan on a very high level which Pakistan is not.
Hussein's big, baseless talk is exactly like the situation of Pakistan. Talking out of their hat while their underwears are solied. I'm sure Hussain, while wearing a blazer in the camera frame, is sitting on a pair of boxer shorts underneath it.
India has very little to gain by 'normalizing' relations with Pakistan. But a lot to lose by letting its guard down and trusting the Pakistani establishment. We had enough of this 'positive gestures'.
Lol typical narrow-minded deluded Indian. Pakistan stands between India and all of central Asia. Imagine the resources and riches both countries could have if they normalized their relations and there are road links and all sorts of pipelines from central Asia through Pakistan all the way to India.
@@user-gv5mo1rd2p Typical Pakistani mindset of making money off others' business. But ur days of extracting such geo-political rents are long gone. We will figure ways to trade with Central Asia without engaging with Pakistan. You worry about where you would beg next. Turkey maybe ?
It would be hard to negotiate a peace talk with Pakistan especially after 1999 fiasco.
I have a strong feeling that if Mr. Mushahid Hussain is given responsibility to lead the talks with India, I can guarantee that the talks won't go any further than 1 hour or may be just up to introduction.
I just fail to understand one thing. Where from comes this prodigal amount of confidence? A Nation which begs, a PM who says "Beggars cannot be choosers". Who on earth wants so much bonhomie with Pakistan? Vajpayee tried and we have got our Kargil. Every man on the streets of Pakistan threatens India of Nuclear holocaust. You started all the 4 wars. You have destroyed Afghanistan through your bizarre idea of strategic depth. You have destroyed Kashmir through militancy. Who wants to talk with you?
Karan truly shines in the interview complying ever so smoothly along with the guests tune not so much as even raising a finger.....Pak is so generously offering peace for India's development and "well being and safety" india should take it up with dead seriousness 😂. Seriously , Karan listening to all this absooute Bs without even raising an eyebrow...speaks volumes about you
Seriously... Karan's apologetic slavish demeanor became hilarious after a certain point. As if he was paid to listen to all this bullshit.
We need to create an illusion to karan that the guest is Modi, then Karan will recoup his usual animal instincts.
With this standard of Interview we can conclude that The Wire is on last legs
Kudos to a seasoned journalist Mr. Karan Thapar for allowing the person on the other side to score a century without any resistance. It was a simple walk over for the politician from Pakistan. They interview was done in such a fashion as if a Pakistani Journalist is interviewing a Pakistani politician. Keep up!!!!
That's how, people like Karan Thapar, make us "Vote for Modi ".
The is difference between an interview and a debate. An interview is when you put questions and get answers. It is in a debate that you start rebutting the other person's views.
@@sreekr irrespective of Debate Or Interview, the outcome depends on the attitude and mindset of the person who is conducting the session.
@@sreekr I think same rule should be applied when he took interview of right wing....but what he did and now continuously doing when it comes to right wing Indian politician...he continuously disrupt without waiting for complition of sentences and ask silly questions in counter again and again.... I don't know if you are able to understand or not what I am trying to say because I am Hindi speaking person and my English is not so well grammatically but I hope you would understand sense of my reply....
@@sreekr as a journalist, you need to make counter points to what your interviewer was saying. When kulbushan topic was raised, why was ICJ judgement not brought up which showed blotched imvestigation. When kashmir issue was raised, why was terrorist funding and Pakistani support for JeM LeT not highlighted. When RSS is said to cause genocide in India, why was he not asked for proof for the same. Lastly, what is even meant by resolving kashmir issue from Pakistani side. Are they talking about POK? Why would India or any nation make any concession on any land that they control. Is the kashmir narrative only for their local population rather than actual peace
Mr Karan Thapar calls himself a journalist, when the guy said India has occupied Kashmir like Russia has occupied Ukraine, secondly about Atal Ji, the efforts of Atal Ji was met with Kargil War, Thapar keeps mum.
Wasn’t this guest the same person who was the spokesman for Pak government during the Kargil war and said that occupiers of Kargil heights were non-state actors and not regular Pak army men.
Non state actors or not, they were Pakistanis supported by the Pakistani establishment.
Yes, the very same silver tongued reptile. And then many many years later, one sees him in a BBC interview baring all..
OMG!!! Mr Hussain is saying, Sun is shining, rivers are flowing, flowers are blooming in Pakistan. It’s India who attacked Pakistan & destroyed music in the air.
No, We are not ready to align or involve India With Pakistan's current situation, Unfortunately !
We feel sad and have our empathy for the economic and overall crisis that Pakistan is going through from a humanistic point of view.
But it's for our own betterment we better not involve ourselves in Pakistanis matters. It will only demean our current growth and image that we have in the world we are better off without them. History witnessed what it gave us whenever we had connection with Pakistan.
Pakistan is fundamentally and ideologically different and has no acceptance for Indians deep down , the call for talks on the table is just because they're dying for financial aid. Only if there are some real changes in their approach to really have a good relation with India, we always welcome you to talk to you.
Our India has a track record of forwarding hands for aid and any other kind of assistance and for any possible development, we always were ready for that irrespective of what country , what ideology and what background you stand with unless it's humanistic .
But Pakistan see world through imperialist Islamic lens , the only obstacle that I feel as a proud Indian and a human to not involve our India with Pakistan unless they're really ready for changes.
Funnily, what Pak did in 1948 (with kashmir) was the same Russia did in 2014 (with Krimea). Both used irregular troops (aka terrorist) to capture
They're called "Freedom Fighters" apparently
*Dr. B.R. Ambedkar:* The allegiance of a Muslim does not rest on his domicile in the country which is his but on the faith to which he belongs. To the Muslim, Where it is well with me there is my country is unthinkable. Wherever there is the rule of Islam, there is his own country. *In other words, Islam can never allow a true Muslim to adopt India as his motherland and regard a Hindu as his kith and kin*
-Source: "pakistan or partition of India" Book by Ambedkar
Taking head on the right-wing forces, in his book, Pakistan or The Partition of India, Ambedkar wrote, “If Hindu Raj does become a fact, it will, no doubt, be the greatest calamity for this country. No matter what the Hindus say. Hinduism is a menace to liberty, equality and fraternity. On that account it is incompatible with democracy. Hindu Raj must be prevented at any cost.”
Of the 22 vows of Dr Ambedkar the top three were:
a) "I shall have no faith in Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh nor shall I worship them."
b) "I shall have no faith in Rama and Krishna who are believed to be incarnation of God nor shall I worship them."
c) "I shall have no faith in 'Gauri', Ganapati and other gods and goddesses of Hindus nor shall I worship them."
Ambedkar wrote to Gandhi, "I would like to assure the Mahatma that it is not the mere failure of Hindus and Hinduism which has produced in me the feelings of disgust and contempt. I am disgusted with Hindus and Hinduism because I am convinced that they cherish wrong ideals and lead a wrong social life. My quarrel with Hindus and Hinduism is not over the imperfections of their social conduct. It is much more fundamental. It is over their ideals."
On October 14, 1956, while he converted to Buddhism in a grand ceremony in Nagpur, Ambedkar said: "By discarding my ancient religion which stood for inequality and oppression, today I am reborn."
Ambedkar publicly proclaimed, "I was born a Hindu because I had no control over this, but I shall not die a Hindu."
I hope Karan took a hefty amount to push the Islambad's agenda. All these specimens from Doon's School have same worldview.
Which skool did you go to ?
@@narkelnaru2710uska baap bhi 1962 war mein bhagya tha woh bhi thapar tha
UPSC question 'biased media is the real threats of democracy ' discuss in 250 words????
Dhool mein luth chalana = Beating around the bush = Without any rhyme or reason 😂
It is Pakistan who initially attacked kashmir when it was a separate state and they chose to stay there even when the maharaja of Kashmir agreed to join with India, so it is the Pakistan that has illegally occupied parts of Kashmir and are reluctant to vacate the Kashmir even when it is clear that whole of Kashmir is an integral part of India hence it is no country's business to interfere with India's internal aspects.
Complete Wire team should be thrown out of India and should be sent to Pakistan
hahahaha....what an interview mr. thapar, u defended india well. Isn't it??..Heart pains when my fellow indian just stay silent when the other gentlemen spews venom. very credible reporting.
@@veenamohanannair ha ha good one.
He is karan thapar.... Is there any reason for him to argue with that pak comedian.... He sits tight always to bully India,, Hindu,,, modyeee government... Its ur problem that u expect silly nationalism from suchhh a highhhhly educated prrroggreesive liberallll secuuulerrr person
Some people hate Modi ji so much that they cross the line and don't remember that they are Indian and become propaganda instruments of Enemies of India.
the guy totally incompetent 😅
Karan Thapar is not a patriotic Indian. He should be thrown out of India.
Your guest makes blatantly false statement of annexation equating it to Crimea whereas it was decision of Princely State of erstwhile Jammu and Kashmir to merge with India. There was no annexation. However you chose to stay silent and did not challenge his mischaracterising and false equivalence.
I understand as interviewer Karan needs to be objective and neutral. But does that mean you don't challenge your guest at all? The Senator could get away with his constant virtue signaling, some half-truth and outright lies and at times ludicrous points; he lauded Bilawal's disgusting behavior and even gave off an impression that both the countries are in same state, are on equal footing. Where was the cross-questioning?
And did you ask what really is India's incentive to resume talks with Pakistan? The 'status-quo' works just fine for us.
Pakistan in its arrogant entitlement of owning Kashmir,side lining its walking talking people has had devastating , heart wrenching painful effects on its People which nobody can alleviate n heal.
Kashmir is ours
Pakistan being a hurdle in the rise of India is a flawed argument. India's rise since independence is despite the hurdle called Pakistan. Yet, we progressed despite this minor itch called Pakistan.
The gentleman from Pakistan is a Pakistani after all. Nothing can be expected from him.
Yeah, he actually proved by his way of talking that thay just want to buy some time. And they will go back to terrorism.
India is growing and increasingly becoming a power to reckon with by pursuing its own policy. Judging by the rigid approach of Pakistan with threat of nuclear weapons in its possession, Pakistan should not have any place in our frame work of development and in attainment of its dream to build a wealthy and happy India.
Pak "offer" for talks? Who sought their offer?
From Kashmir and thank you mr Thapar and for allowing healthy debate for peace in my country. Kashmir is like a ticking time bomb and we need stability not Hindi heartland terrorism.
When Pakistan is begging for money, the world is asking/expecting pakistan to solve it's issue with its biggest neighbour with stable & growing economy. So, Pakistan wants the facade of talks. The attitudes of pakistan's army and political leaders is the same. Ignore them and proceed with our own road map of economic prosperity is the best response.
It's okay, if they return the PoK.
We can talk on this condition, if they agree to it.
J&K Biggest Hurdle to India's Rise - ghanta! ... hahahahahaha....
when the first time he said cashmere I understood where this interview will go.
Hilarious ! Specially around 18.3 to 19 mins when Hussain explains how sherif lesson learned included lesson learned by India too :)
Dishonesty at its peak !
Also kudos to Karan for not asking what exactly he meant by that.
Mr. Thapar never sounded like a seasoned journalist during the whole conversation. Minister sahab was like a teacher who was teaching his very fond student. .. Representatives like him can be of no help to any side. Look the way he's talking about 370 and Kasmir, a one sided monologue!!
Even at this stage of pauperdom, he just can't forget his atomic power and come out of this mirage. Your PM sahab has learnt and he rightly used ' we'. Its only arrogance and no magnanimity when ministers like u describe that 'We' as 'Royal We'.
If only Karan Thapar had been critical of the guest just a fraction of what he was with Narendra Modi. This makes me wonder if Karan Thapar is willing to degrade India for getting rid of Modi from Prime Minister ship.
Considering his leaders are going around the world with a begging bowl, am impressed by this Senators arrogance, pomposity and virtue signaling.
I’m a bit confused out here… why would the side offering the olive branch be taken seriously, when:
1. They are on the brink of financial bankruptcy.
2. They have a history in recent memory of rescinding on any promise they make.
3. The people offering the olive branch are unsure if they will be at the seats tomorrow.
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In other words, I am to believe that the new normal is for the beggar to demand conditions for alms to be given ?
😂😂😂
Nobody is suffering in Jammu and Kashmir in Indian side except Pakistan's terrarisom. But in Pakistan all the four region suffering a lot
Did not expect karan to accept everything to accept so easily
Who needs talks with Pakistan 🇵🇰, definitely not India and it’s PM Modi.
The ceasefire was agreed because India was inflicting serious casualties on Pakistan on the LoC.
I think we need to leave our Pakistani friends on their fate & move on. The fear about nuclear weapon has been busted by Modi. They talk about Kashmiris & Palestinian people but can not see suffering of their own people.
It’s like kindergarten kids discussing a cricket match. It’s dumb.
well India should just ignore (Pakistan and Karan Thapar) and continue on the development path. Let them dream and let's see how many years can Pakistan survive.
Karan I'm apolitical but feels so disappointed hearing you & ur selected guests, also use of words by both. U lost it completely, our country cannot & will not go back to what this government done irrespective of whoever in Raisena
Mr Thapar, despite my respect for you as the devil's advocate, I feel you went easy on him as he was claiming several things which to any sane mind would be completely wrong.
India doesn’t want a third party mediation.
Mushahid Hussain is still living in 90s cold War era. These guys couldn't think beyond Henry Kissinger's obsolete template
The Wire is a channel which is good channel to short circuit Indian integrity
Punch line
India forcefully occupied Kashmir!
beggars cannot be chooser
Joke of year, a member of Defence standing committee say Pakistan is Muslim democracy, then why so many governments have fallen in the country. Why this kind of economic chaos.This man talking from egocentric attitude, he is criticising India, other way round is Pakistan is like that. Karen thapar is silent when all he has to do is silence the other guy by rebutting.
2 Pakistanis talking to each other on a Pakistani channel
Not Kashmir but pakistan is the issue..... insha'Allah we will have free Sindh free Balochistan free Khyber soon and the problem will be resolved permanently
May be some time people are calling Journalist as a Big think Tank
But discussing a Kashmir as a removal of Article 370 and making statehood, or Union territory, no need opinion from PAK. It is none of his business, none of Journalists business to talk with PAK.
Even Un educated will tell that Kashmir may declare as TALUK, or a district, or a united village that is India's matter, it is our internal Renovation of a house, nothing to talk with cunning neighbors.!
Unfortunately we have Un Nationalist Journalists much more !!!
I still don't understand what actually Pakistan wants.
1) First Kashmir War, started in October 1947 when Pakistan feared that the Maharaja of the princely state of Kashmir and Jammu would accede to India.
2) Pakistan's Operation Gibraltar, which was designed to infiltrate forces into Jammu and Kashmir to precipitate an insurgency against rule by India. India retaliated by launching a full-scale military attack on West Pakistan.
3) Kargil War, this conflict between the two countries was mostly limited. During early 1999, Pakistani troops infiltrated across the Line of Control (LoC) and occupied Indian territory, mostly in the Kargil district. India responded by launching a major military and diplomatic offensive to drive out the Pakistani infiltrators. On what position Pakistan want to negotiate, and what they want to negotiate? I simply don't understand, for my commonsense.
Is this a coincidence?
1) TTP- Tehrikh Taliban Pakistan release a map showing Kashmir as part of their proposed territory
2) Pakistan PM via Arab media proposes talk with India telling that 3 wars fought has only lead to misery ; request help of UAE to pressure India to talk with Pakistan
3) China does not object in UN to listing one of the India wanted terrorist in Pakistan .
Pakistan desperate to talk to India . But India cannot rollback abrogation of Article 370 and don't need to also.
Pakistan killing itself from Kashmir cancer. Pakistan has fear on loosing Gilgit-Baltistan, so rising Kashmir issue
Pakistan is a free muslim democracy. Made my day😄😄
lawl. ignore the scum bags
Good job Mr thapar.. Once again
he is nonsense
There was no bloodshed when 370 was gone. Pak kept ranting no internet and today Airtel has begun 5G services. Please dont lower IQ
The name of RSS comes in every major interview with Pakistani official. This is true power of RSS though we don't need their accreditation.
Hi Karan, Im hardcore congressi so I like ur telecast but mind you I appreciate the way Modi has handled Pakistan n Kashmir n they Pakistani's are nowhere near us they only have nuisance valve ...that's the fact
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Tq so much Karan the way u defended India make we Indians really so proud of it n hope the viewers know about your thought process...
Sara budget to general kha jaate hai Pakistan Ka
Stop peddling nuclear power. India will not refrain from dealing with it. And South Asia countries must come to terms with rise of India and not try to equal themselves with India. An illusion which will cost dearly, if not costing already. Karan, as usual superb in his questions.
A chairman of senate committee on defence necessarily has to be anti India. Poor choice of guest speaker.
in the past I used to think Karan Thapar was Indian Journalist 😁😁
*PAKISTANI attacking, invading & occupying KASHMIR illegally is on 22 Oct 1947*
But, INDIAN invasion, attacking & occupation of KASHMIR date & time???? Can any serious PAKISTANI state boldly.
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I didn't know Karan Thapar is a Pakistani sympathizer and he is so much into knowing Pakistani version on everything. How can you even tolerate this nonsense that we should revoke Article 370. Go to the UN and get it resolved. You have POK and still want our Kashmir. How is this even possible.
Will Pappu revoke article 370 of voted to power - If yes, please ask him to declare the same to the crowds of Bharat Jodo Yatra.....52 seats will become 2
This means Pakistan will impose war and then tell we (India and Pakistan) should avoid wars. How intelligent.
Forget about Kasmir, now Baluchistan is also not part of Pakistan.
A journalist should not be clouded by 'patriotism', but should be fair , objective & be informed enough to challenge the interviewee if the latter drifts into fantasy. Hussain and earlier Moeed Yousuf were able to get away with brazen lies. In both the cases, if getting across narratives through interviews is diplomacy by other means, then this is another diplomatic coup by Pakistan!
Karan Thapar is trying to get honorary Pakistani citizenship!
What equality is he talking about , Indians are superior, period accept our leadership and move on if you want to survive.
He can’t compare India with Russia and Kashmir with Ukraine. India never attacked Pakistan.
Pakistan is so compassionate to Kashmiris but they never showed this love for Bangladesh during 1971. Pakistan is only interested in extending their borders.
We shouldn't give Pakistan the underserved attention it seeks, Let Pakistan sort it's issues in their own way. Not very bright people are running their Country, we should only engage only when we are convinced that we are dealing with people of high intelligence and calibre.
No govt. Can reverse the position of Kashmir. People of India would not accept that in any condition
If talking about religion, then what will you call about the education imparted at the madarsas where any non muslim is called as kafirs, implanted hatred in minds of young childern and even in Pakistani schools where they are taught false information about India.
Mr. Senetor you have mentioned Mr. Bajpais visit to Pakistan and his friendly gestures and intention, but what India got from our neighbor, Kargil war. Not only state sponsored but Pak. army was directly there. So as a nation we also learn from history.
Good interview. Hopefully something some talks seem to be starting. Extreme hostility may diminish to an extent. Karan Thapar is too brilliant.
Don't make your anti Modi hate become anti India hate..
Is this fearless journalism?
Mr Thapar, Pakistan doesn't have the leverage to push the K bogie. India Pakistan equation has been De-Hyphenated. Punjab&Sind which is called Pakistan, is about to collapse. Better to ask somebody from Afghanistan or Iran as our immediate neighbours for the interview.
The wire come for Sharif cover.
Real job
Don't worry guys, modi saab fix kaar dega, he will leave behind legacy after his 3rd term
Can you ask him once about how much money they have in their reserves to feed their people before talking to India about peace.
Who asks these hypocrites.
Sir you have lot more years experience in all way. I support u and ur team.