Spotify’s Mathematical System For Determining Your Music Taste

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  • @ConfusedRambutan
    @ConfusedRambutan Рік тому +5875

    spotify never quite gets my music taste right, i just kinda wander along until i find a band/artist i like and then listen to them obsessively

    • @Scrod117
      @Scrod117 Рік тому +220

      Spotify is fucked for me. I exclusively listen to metal/heavy metal. Guess what they recommend me? Jazz.

    • @moondiver1987
      @moondiver1987 Рік тому +81

      @@Scrod117 They're... not that wrong, I'd say.

    • @MrTurbo_
      @MrTurbo_ Рік тому +58

      @@joaovmlsilva3509 UA-cam Music is a lot better at recommending in my opinion as well

    • @IllIlIllIlIlI
      @IllIlIllIlIlI Рік тому +2

      Who?

    • @TheFalseShepphard
      @TheFalseShepphard Рік тому +1

      @@Scrod117 yeah that's what you probably deserve for having such a shitty taste

  • @DavidFrostbite
    @DavidFrostbite Рік тому +915

    I really wish I could just see the genres directly. It baffles me that Spotify doesn't display the rest of the metadata.
    It would be so cool to see what Spotify thinks I like so I can actually search for that type of music - without having to wait for Wrapped once a year.
    Makes me miss Pandora but their bitrate sucks worse that UA-cam

    • @BrandonSchabes
      @BrandonSchabes Рік тому +31

      if you search spotify for 'picked just for you' it will bring up hundreds of custom playlists of different genres.

    • @quas3728
      @quas3728 Рік тому +21

      Genre tag is the one mp3 feature I need in streaming service

    • @balls3289
      @balls3289 Рік тому +3

      @@BrandonSchabes it's very bare bones though

    • @anon5760
      @anon5760 Рік тому +6

      You could make a last fm account and track all of your music data that way

    • @DavidFrostbite
      @DavidFrostbite Рік тому +14

      @@anon5760 That's my whole point tho - every other music service shows you all of the metadata. Album and Genre are like the most basic info that all music has had since pre-internet, and Spotify goes out of their way to hide it.

  • @Krebzonide
    @Krebzonide Рік тому +509

    I wish there was some type of voting system on the discover weekly to tell spotify if it's good or not. This week specifically I got a lot of trash in mine.

    • @KrolPawi
      @KrolPawi Рік тому +55

      There is one. You can Say that you dont like some music on Discovery weekly. Im Not sure if it impacts though

    • @dalanoyo
      @dalanoyo Рік тому +54

      @@KrolPawi It does. My discover weekly used to recommend a ton of gospel music to me and I hated it. So I started disliking every single one of them and after a few weeks it completely removed them from my recommendations.

    • @rhettorical
      @rhettorical Рік тому +1

      Pandora has you covered.

    • @jmccoomber1659
      @jmccoomber1659 Рік тому +10

      I've gotten much better recommendations since I started clicking the heart to tell Spotify which songs I like best. I'm careful not to "Like" too many songs by any single artist. My personal playlists are really eclectic, too - like Janet Jackson, Megadeth, Jackson Browne, Five Finger Death Punch, The Mamas & The Pappas, Iron Maiden, Alanis Morrisette, Slash, Little Big Town, Jimi Hendrix, Damn Yankees, Billy Joel, Ozzy Osborne and a bunch of one-hit wonders on a single 6-hour playlist list . I've been getting really mix lists lately:-)

    • @Krebzonide
      @Krebzonide Рік тому +4

      @@KrolPawi is that the “hide song” button?

  • @BobbyHill26
    @BobbyHill26 Рік тому +775

    I’ve never had much luck with the autogenerated playlists, but I think their “similar artists” or whatever section is usually super spot on even for really obscure stuff, and when they automatically play songs that aren’t in the playlist you are listening to, it’s also usually really good.
    Lots of people here in the comments are saying it’s only good for chart toppers but maybe you guys just listen to too much of the chart toppers because I’ve found tons of great music that was exactly what I want and from groups with like 10000 monthly listeners or even way less

    • @drewm8502
      @drewm8502 Рік тому +21

      Factual. Only gripe is that I listen to the song radio, and given enough time my radios end up consisting of songs I've already liked

    • @AidanPatko
      @AidanPatko Рік тому +21

      Fuuullly agree here. I think the people complaining are the ones who think they’re quirky and “indie” because they listen to Billie Eilish and Tame Impala.

    • @brokenursa9986
      @brokenursa9986 Рік тому +3

      The “similar artists” section can get a bit weird. There’s a synthpop group I like called Ashbury Heights, and the “similar artists” section on their page recommends a lot of electro-industrial artists, like Imperative Reaction and Assemblage 23. Fortunately, I like both styles of music, but I find it weird that Spotify puts such distinct styles of music together.

    • @francescoalexgiacalone878
      @francescoalexgiacalone878 Рік тому +1

      Yeah it's true for tbe song it plays outside the playlisy when it doesn't recommend somgs you already like. I discovered what basically was my favourite of last year (fluorescent adolescent) through autoplay and its even a genre i dont listen to much

    • @MidnightUnity
      @MidnightUnity Рік тому +2

      I agree! I think the "similar artists" section is the best when you explore a new genre and you only know one or two names, you can quickly discover an entire scene with some majors tracks!

  • @noneontheair
    @noneontheair Рік тому +134

    I’m pretty thoroughly convinced that Spotify only bases it’s recommendations on recent additions to your listening habits. I only ever listen to my one big playlist that’s a giant conglomeration of everything I like (currently approaching 2k songs), while frequently adding any new music I come across that I enjoy. And according to my Spotify wrapped, I listened to 2035 songs from 900 artists across 107 genres this year. However, my Discover Weekly is only ever songs related to whatever I’ve added in the previous few weeks. My recommendations would be so much better if it _actually_ looked at everything I listened to.

    • @eduardobarreto5555
      @eduardobarreto5555 Рік тому +26

      It would also be far more computationally expensive, so unfortunately they limit themselves to your most recent activity.

    • @seranes_silence
      @seranes_silence Рік тому +2

      Haha me too, same listening habit, challenging Myself to keep the Playlist under 2k 😂

    • @PrentedImNotHere
      @PrentedImNotHere Рік тому

      That’s similar to me. I enjoy Indie pop, indie folk, pop, classical and rock and all it ever gives me is indie pop

    • @Schindlabua
      @Schindlabua 10 місяців тому +1

      I've given up on doing genre playlists because you never keep them up to date anyway but what's been going great for me is creating a new playlist each month where I just chuck everything into. At the end of the month I create a second playlist called mixtape where I pick my top 10 from that month. It's really nice going back a few years and listening to your old mixtapes every now and again.

    • @mr_clean575
      @mr_clean575 2 місяці тому

      same

  • @michaelshields1861
    @michaelshields1861 Рік тому +63

    My problem with Spotify is that what I want to listen to can vary wildly from one part of the day to the next. so I never know what I'm doing to listen to next when I let the server create a playlist

    • @alexandergilles8583
      @alexandergilles8583 Рік тому +12

      Exactly. Like I’ll wake up in the morning and want dubstep, but then in the evening, I’m playing 70s folk. Like I love all my music, but those playlists throw EVERYTHING together. So if I play it, I’ll go from head banging to Excision and then the next song is Joan Baez. Talk about vibe killer. Or the playlist will have The Rolling Stones playing and then next up is a migos song. Like my “New Music Mix” in Apple Music today had a series of three songs. Shanghai Doom (dubstep), then NBA Youngboy, then Lamb of God. Like I love all them, but dupstep to rap to metal in three songs kills any vibe lol

    • @ender7278
      @ender7278 Рік тому +2

      I like using a master playlist with everything in it so that's not a problem for me.

    • @finnanut1098
      @finnanut1098 Рік тому

      @@alexandergilles8583 just go to the made for you section they have different playlists for the different genres you like

    • @ESC_jackqulen
      @ESC_jackqulen Рік тому

      I have this same problem

  • @b127_1
    @b127_1 Рік тому +3639

    I find that spotify isnt that great for discovering new music: it kinda just recommends stuff close to what it knows you like and after a while, listening to similar music gets a bit boring imo. However, finding some new songs on youtube and then playing their radio on spotify works very well, so im pretty satisfied overall.

    • @class3pwr
      @class3pwr Рік тому +134

      It's the exact opposite for me, Spotify has suggested me everything from Brazilian funk to Vaporwave. And I always look forward to what my discover weekly will have. It's interesting how different people can have wildly different experiences with the same algorithm.

    • @kovu159
      @kovu159 Рік тому +16

      I switched back to Pandora for that reason. Their algorithm recommends more unique stuff so I don't just keep playing my same playlists over and over again.

    • @pax1217
      @pax1217 Рік тому +11

      Yes, I mean, I like synthwave but I also want something different, Spotify keeps insisting in synthwave each weak :(

    • @adminfebhost
      @adminfebhost Рік тому +2

      This.

    • @leisti
      @leisti Рік тому +8

      I have the same experience. When I initially started listening to Spotify, I searched for songs that could be categorized as jazz, rhythm & blues, and similar. Nearly all the recommendations fall into the same categories, even though I do enjoy other types of music, too.

  • @toine512fr
    @toine512fr Рік тому +208

    Once Spotify understands you like never heard of artists, man it finds things!

  • @CatWithHumanEars
    @CatWithHumanEars Рік тому +449

    Spotify is really good with chart topping music suggestions but anytime I try and make a ska playlist it basically is just like "You want the entire discographies of Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Streetlight Manifesto, and Less Than Jake? Maybe we'll throw a Goldfinger or Mustard Plug in there to make you think we know what niche is"

    • @EvilTaco
      @EvilTaco Рік тому +6

      ​@@big.muscles.ohyeaheh it's actually been pretty good for me over the years, altho I've recently noticed that Soundcloud is probably even better, mostly because it's not as official so artists tend to post more songs on there

    • @batfurs3001
      @batfurs3001 Рік тому +18

      Spotify also doesn't know that certain genres just don't mix well in a playlist. I listen to a lot of musical theatre, video game music, anime music, movie soundtracks, and some random other stuff I like sprinkled in. Whenever they try to make a playlist for me it just gives me whiplash. One sequence I remember very well is When the Chips are Down - > My Castle Town - > Bubblegum Bitch - > Mixed Nuts - > Test Drive - > Shinzo Wo Sasageyo - > Aria Math
      After that I just stuck to listening to entire albums and my own handcrafted playlists. Because that. Well. It sure was something.

    • @ghostbirdofprey
      @ghostbirdofprey Рік тому +6

      This is why I prefer Pandora's algorithm so much more.
      It's just a shame it's a bit behind the times on the actual playing music part.

    • @sunnohh
      @sunnohh Рік тому +6

      Spotify is awful at everything but pop

    • @pyropulseIXXI
      @pyropulseIXXI Рік тому

      @@ghostbirdofprey No algorithm is good. I am my own algorithm, and this attempt to predict things by tech is a massive failed experiment. But since algorithms are everywhere, they think they work, when all they do is make bad suggestions
      Virtually every service was better before they started using an algorithm for 'advanced prediction.' UA-cam, for instance, was better, not it sucks with its recommended.

  • @CompletelyNormal
    @CompletelyNormal Рік тому +146

    I can confirm that the Spotify algorithm gets a little bit confused if you put Metallica, Queen, Social Distortion, John Coltrane and Claude Debussy in the same playlist.

    • @BobBob-et9io
      @BobBob-et9io Рік тому +16

      Somehow k-pop + American rap = Turkish rap and Indian pop. Not sure how that happened, but honestly they're not bad genres

    • @zauberer9687
      @zauberer9687 Рік тому +2

      I only have completely mixed playlists, because that's the way I like to listen to music

    • @Frostgecko7
      @Frostgecko7 Рік тому +1

      I love Dabussy, but you have to finish on da bach!

    • @WowReallyWhoDoesThat
      @WowReallyWhoDoesThat Рік тому +1

      I can't say I blame spotify for its confusion there. But I also have Kaskade, Dave Brubeck, Explosions in the Sky, John Williams, Eagles, (bluegrass covers of) Queen, Debussy, and George Gershwin all in one playlist.

    • @PrentedImNotHere
      @PrentedImNotHere Рік тому +1

      I put Taylor Swift and Chopin in the same playlist and I think it just stopped trying with me 😅

  • @David-zl1tp
    @David-zl1tp Рік тому +53

    I actually clicked on this video in hopes to learn something about Bricks.
    An insight into the inner workings of Spotifys recommendation system was also a good watch but if I had to quantify it, it was about half as interesting.

    • @Mnnvint
      @Mnnvint Рік тому

      If you look up "benanne" and "recommending music on spotify with deep learning" you'll get a more in-depth presentation of how it worked.

  • @anachronismic
    @anachronismic Рік тому +12

    What I'm learning from the comment section is that the algorithms only work for specific types of listening styles, and that others it doesn't strike the right balance for. Which, duh I guess, but interesting to see how people have such different experiences with the discovery algorithms. I'm on some crazy power user shit with spotify so I'm definitely priming it with exactly the kind of training data that will be useful in it finding discoveries for me, so it's interesting to see how behaviors probably make it easier or harder for the thing to do its job.

  • @julesowen-jones9815
    @julesowen-jones9815 Рік тому +11

    Thank you Sam, I’ve discovered my new favourite subreddit and something I need to buy

  • @ethanm7613
    @ethanm7613 Рік тому +3

    @3:44 That’s not a picture of a time frequency representation, that’s a blurry picture of a waveform (which doesn’t explicitly show frequency information). Also called spectrograms, time frequency representations show you what frequency content is occurring in at a specific moment in a signal. Wikipedia has a good article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrogram. Also the frequencies shown on the y axis in the video (0-0.4 Hz) are too low for humans to hear; our hearing range is often quoted as 20Hz-20kHz.

    • @stefansynths
      @stefansynths Рік тому +2

      Yep, it's a bad chart that gets worse the longer you look at it.

  • @BenjaminGrehan
    @BenjaminGrehan Рік тому +18

    I didn't actually know about the weekly recommendation playlist on Spotify till I watched this. I listened to each of the 30 songs it selected for me. Only 4 new-to-me songs I liked enough to want to hear again. Not sure if that ratio is a success in Spotify's eyes but I find Pandora to be much better at introducing me to music I really like.
    That said, I could clearly see/hear the Spotify algorithms (algorhythms?) at work. Every song had familiar tones, beats, phrases, cliches, etc. Just most of it fell flat. I guess welcome to today's oversaturated music landscape 🤷

    • @AllenBaby7
      @AllenBaby7 Рік тому +1

      You have to train the neural network for it to recommend better songs for you next week. For me I started liking and hiding the songs I love and hate in my discover weekly. Then, it learnt what I wanted and constantly gave me songs I'll love.

  • @Skip.8221
    @Skip.8221 Рік тому +4

    Their ‘Weekly Suggested’ playlist, in my experience, is either completely godawful or banger after banger. I’ve found my new favourite artist through it, which I otherwise wouldn’t have even considered listening to

  • @teewithey5879
    @teewithey5879 Рік тому +2

    I wish Spotify would give us a TRUE random shuffle option instead of an algorithm based on things we liked. My likes songs sections contains everything and randomising it on shuffle is like just listening to a playlist with the same vibe rather than going from an operatic number to a heavy metal ballad.
    At the very least give us a slider/switch option of true shuffle and a similar shuffle

  • @GoonSmith007
    @GoonSmith007 Рік тому +9

    I think they have a 4th algorithm too, what do they really really want to push to you to listen, as I get the same random junk artists shoved at me over and over again regardless of what I listen to.
    Almost all their suggestions are for indie artists and nothing mainstream, presumably because they either make more money due to lopsided leverage in the deal negotiation, or have been paid to promote them

  • @FumbleFellow
    @FumbleFellow Рік тому +9

    And still UA-cam does a better job suggesting music that I like to me, than Spotify does

  • @DrewBoivie
    @DrewBoivie Рік тому +2

    I've tried a lot of "systems" for recommending me music based on a sample of what I like. It hasn't ever worked so far, but that's not to say I don't think its possible.
    The current systems just seem to mostly just recommend more of the same group or same genre or just something completely random.
    I think we've all met people with similar "taste" in music. Getting a computer to make good recommendations will be about finding the specific nuances you like in the music you listen to and extrapolating that into other songs...bonus points for doing so with artists/bands you haven't heard before. They're working on it.

  • @fmaz1952
    @fmaz1952 Рік тому +3

    1:12 ... what a weird way to wear headphones.

  • @fortunatestandupdesk7892
    @fortunatestandupdesk7892 Рік тому +5

    It would be very cool if spotify could introduce an algorithm modifier to give you more randomness or reach.

  • @wingedlionn
    @wingedlionn Рік тому +17

    Thanks, Sam from HAI! This is a great educational video!

  • @welfiblablabla
    @welfiblablabla Рік тому +7

    Such a complex system yet Spotify still doesn't manage to shuffle songs

    • @amamoh
      @amamoh Рік тому

      You can't even sort your playlists on web player.

  • @belaskoflek3703
    @belaskoflek3703 Рік тому +3

    The problem is they start feeding you the same type of music and then it creates a closed loop where they think that's what you like. Overlooking the other music your into. It's like the "step sister" problem in 🎉movies🎉

  • @quackcement
    @quackcement Рік тому +1

    ANYONE NOTICE pretty much all soundtrack music is lumped together in one category. whereas hanz zimmer will make very different styles of music depending on what movie he's writing it for, sub categories of soundtrack music seem to be missing.

  • @Treehead667
    @Treehead667 Рік тому +1

    I found that the best way to get good recommendations in my weekly playlist is to ignore the feature for several weeks. When I listen to this playlist weekly, the third week it turns into complete garbage. Then I ignore it for 1-2 month and the suggestions get much better.

  • @Omegatonboom
    @Omegatonboom Рік тому +2

    UA-cam and Spotify are like the only things I pay for except for occasionally paying for Disney or Paramount when stuff I want to watch is on... You have to use UA-cam to find new artists I think... Spotify is excellent but sometimes is limited in exposing you to new stuff. Sometimes I random search for a genre you're interested on UA-cam will reveal a new set of genre or artists that you've never heard of before. So far I've had great luck with this combination.

  • @BD-yl5mh
    @BD-yl5mh Рік тому +1

    I find Spotify is really good at finding and recommending me stuff that sounds like a cheap imitation of stuff I like. It’s like “here’s another group of guys playing around with the same chords with the same energy and obviously having been fans of the first band, but they’re not as good” and what I want is “here’s something that’s not exactly the old favourite band, but sort of an evolution, something new and cool, but carrying a lot of the same spirit and attitude but not in exactly the same way”

  • @tgrules565
    @tgrules565 Рік тому +16

    There's an uncanny valley like effect with music taste. I love AC/DC and Spotify will throw me artists that sound similar yet are absolutely awful. Sometimes it's suggestions are okay but I tend to find what I like myself.

    • @herbertunkraut
      @herbertunkraut Рік тому +10

      Your problem is that because you are used to AC/DC you are able to ignore that they are absolutely awful aswell.

    • @zauberer9687
      @zauberer9687 Рік тому

      @@herbertunkraut that's untrue, because AC/DC IS actually the best music that was ever created

  • @404yokai
    @404yokai Рік тому

    0:22 Sam saying "phonk" in a video was definitely not on my 2022 bingo card. huge day for the phonk community

  • @metalicteapot
    @metalicteapot Рік тому +7

    this is the better than any spotify ad I have ever seen. it actually made me want to try that thing.

    • @shraka
      @shraka Рік тому

      I wouldn't. It's not actually any good at recommending music. I guess unless your taste is 'whatever', then it isn't bad at recommending popular stuff to you.

  • @issacthacker132
    @issacthacker132 Рік тому +1

    Guy deadass did a close up of Ed Sheehan with the voice over “niche, indie”

  • @derpnz
    @derpnz Рік тому +1

    can't wait to see how sam pronounced timbre in the mistakes video

  • @addisondragon7899
    @addisondragon7899 Рік тому +9

    Spotify’s algorithm turned me from a hyperpop listener into a harsh noise and hardcore punk listener and i will never forgive it

  • @landsquid6561
    @landsquid6561 Рік тому +2

    I really like Spotify’s algorithm, I just wish it would recommend me more people. Whenever I try to listen to (artist’s) radio it’s the same people

    • @Root174
      @Root174 Рік тому +1

      Discover Weekly seems to the best place to discover music from artists you've never heard of, alongside music from people you already know.

  • @Vinxian1
    @Vinxian1 Рік тому +3

    Blåhaj!! I love how that cute shork is slowly creeping into the mainstream 🦈🦈

  • @FelixUmbra
    @FelixUmbra Рік тому +1

    All of this and I still want to be able to _buy_ a physical copy.

  • @d_pete361
    @d_pete361 Рік тому +1

    Yet out off over 750 songs in my liked songs library, it plays the same 50 when I play my library on shuffle.

  • @Owen123c
    @Owen123c Рік тому +2

    Spotify has almost 6000 genres in their database yet I can name more genres that I listen to than genres that Spotify said I listened to in the past year.

  • @berendhol4060
    @berendhol4060 Рік тому +1

    These algorithms are the reason spotify will recommend the same classical song executed by 5 different people or orchestras. It doesn’t recognise its the same song because for almost all other genres a song is produced by one person or one group and they have a copyright on the song.

  • @plantenby
    @plantenby Рік тому +1

    The blåhaj subreddit is entirely justified. That shark is an ICON!

  • @sirawesomenessi1796
    @sirawesomenessi1796 Рік тому

    @0:41 what a nice looking ginger lad. I hope he does well in his career.

  • @hughsonj
    @hughsonj Рік тому

    A few years go I listened to "Locomotive Breath" by Jethro Tull, and my in next Discover Weekly half the songs were by Jethro Tull and the other half were Ian Anderson. I like rock flute as much as the next guy, but that week the algorithm was crap.

  • @PixelBytesPixelArtist
    @PixelBytesPixelArtist Рік тому +2

    Blahaj my beloved blue shark plushie

  • @acidrat420
    @acidrat420 Рік тому +1

    blackened deathcore was one of my most listened to genres this year :D

  • @cooperglick4865
    @cooperglick4865 Рік тому +5

    I gotta say Spotify gets my music pretty good and have helped me discover artist I really like that I would have never know about

  • @devinmcmanus
    @devinmcmanus Рік тому

    I have a couple of listening guides that I work my way through. Spotify gets confused because I play records from front to back and rarely listen to the same thing twice.

  • @nityodaytekchandani701
    @nityodaytekchandani701 Рік тому +1

    Wish they would apply some algorithms to know that we cannot possibly repeatedly listen to the same advertisement of buying Spotify Premium everyday.

  • @andymcl92
    @andymcl92 Рік тому

    Correction incoming: pretty sure that time-frequency plot was just a colourised waveform, not something that shows frequency. Instead, it basically just shows how the air pressure changes. The type of figure you're looking for is a spectrogram, and is actually what you see in the thumbnail :)
    (You can extract the frequency info from the waveform, but that's not what the y-axis is. You can see that's a waveform because it's basically symmetric top to bottom.)

  • @Beatsbasteln
    @Beatsbasteln Рік тому

    very informative video. but the graph you showed at the beginning of "sonic profiles" does not look like a time-frequency graph of some piece of music, but just like a coloured waveform of something that was probably a vocal track or something. not that it makes a difference to your video's message but just in case anyone wondered how that graph would represent a song's frequencies like that

  • @MaceGUK
    @MaceGUK Рік тому +1

    I swear, all my new favourite bands that I have found from Spotify all have like 5k or less listeners a month

  • @BambaliuRojus
    @BambaliuRojus Рік тому

    I liked a song a few years ago, yodeling about Jagermeister, and I get German song recommendations even now. I do not know German, never listened to a full German song recommended by Spotify, but somehow, every week, I get recommended German songs... I guess I am stuck in some sort of loop of their algorithm...

  • @fozzythealbino
    @fozzythealbino Рік тому

    Any chance for a Wendover version of this video?

  • @JakeyBaby6
    @JakeyBaby6 2 місяці тому

    Blackened Deathcore! I love how accurate that actually is! Carnifex comes to mind for that.

  • @TasosKtd
    @TasosKtd Рік тому

    Nicely broken down. Don't forget that most likely sponsored items have "heavier" weights in the synthesis of these lists.

  • @HenryLoenwind
    @HenryLoenwind Рік тому

    The joke at the end hit hard. Prime comes with some music, and I found one playlist when checking it out that I play over and over and over again on repeat...when I need some quiet music to block out environmental sounds so I can concentrate on reading a book.

  • @FaerieDust
    @FaerieDust Рік тому +2

    I'm holding out hope that they'll one day figure out that Kurmancî and Turkish are not, in fact, the same language. Or even similar languages. I know very, very many people listen to both, but I have no use for Turkish language music and Spotify keeps pushing it even though I always skip those songs.

  • @lucadingman2857
    @lucadingman2857 Рік тому

    Sam made a few mistakes here (!) At 3:45, the graph should be labeled in kilohertz, not hertz. Humans can’t hear below ~20 hz, but the 100-300 hz (0.1-0.3khz) range is right where people talk.
    Also, the word “timbre” is typically pronounced as ‘tam-ber’ or ‘tam-bruh’, but not ‘tim-ber’

  • @jadenabrams9595
    @jadenabrams9595 Рік тому

    shoutout to the every noise at once cameo at the start

  • @jaredkennedy6576
    @jaredkennedy6576 Рік тому +1

    Pandora has been pretty good lately, but so has UA-cam. I've been on a kick of melodic instrumental metal, leaning towards the djent end of things, and the recommendations have been awesome. I built up a playlist that runs a few days without repeat, which makes work go so much faster.

    • @bonebrokebuddy5248
      @bonebrokebuddy5248 Рік тому

      Ah yes djent, the metal sub-genre metal fans cannot decide whether it does or does not exit.
      I’ve been listening to hard rock and metal for most of my life but haven’t really been trying to expand what I listen to until fairly recently and Spotify definitely hasn’t been a help.
      The best way I’ve found is to ask people bc word of mouth tends to always be better than algorithm.
      Do you have any particular recommendations for metal bands that you’ve enjoyed recently? I’m not picky over specific sub-genre as I’m still trying to figure out what I like. But I’m quite tired of Spotify continuously recommending me the same shit & never seem to find anything new.
      So any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

    • @jaredkennedy6576
      @jaredkennedy6576 Рік тому

      @@bonebrokebuddy5248I built out a playlist on here, mostly Jacob Lizotte, Balázs Varga, Sofian Sounds Core, Post Moral, Metal Guitar Stuff etc. All instrumental. Charlie Parra del Riego does some great metal guitar covers of stuff, and then I've got some electronic stuff from Made by John too. It's pretty much just stuff to help push through the workday. I'm not a fan of screaming or growling lyrics, but love the tonal range a lot of these songs use, so these instrumentals have been great.

  • @ai_is_a_great_place
    @ai_is_a_great_place Рік тому +4

    UA-cam Music is the only winner. Every streaming service could never figure out my tastes, even when I did my best to lay it out. But with UA-cam Music, it's unbelievable how phenomenal it is. And it comes with no ads on UA-cam, so no brainer.

  • @SuperHunteeYoutube
    @SuperHunteeYoutube Рік тому +1

    I love spotify! I was just listening to it 30 minutes ago on my bus home!

  • @ex0stasis72
    @ex0stasis72 Рік тому +6

    Spotify is also really good at suggesting new songs to add to a playlist. For example, I have a playlist with hundreds of songs manually put on it, and I named the playlist, "Happy Songs With Sad Lyrics." Since it knows the lyrics and the other aspects of the songs on the playlist, it's able to easily find a constant stream of other songs I like. I just love songs that tell me that my life isn't as bad as the singer's and they're still happier, so I should be too.

    • @shraka
      @shraka Рік тому

      While that's sweet, I personally find spotify kinda bad at recommending songs for a playlist. The good suggestions are when a song is from the same artists, or appear on compilations together, but it often just suggests random popular stuff that isn't that much like the other stuff on my playlist.

  • @callumwilliams2172
    @callumwilliams2172 Рік тому

    I did not expect neurostep to be in a HAI video

  • @haiironezumi
    @haiironezumi Рік тому

    I *really* miss Pandora. They left Australia a while ago, and I haven't had anything decent since.

  • @niewoczosny6461
    @niewoczosny6461 Рік тому

    2:05 zamek na Wawelu chilling in the background

  • @Jstraw805
    @Jstraw805 Рік тому +1

    Yo shoutout whoever put Black Sabbath as one of the artists in this video!!! 🤘

  • @thomasrinschler6783
    @thomasrinschler6783 Рік тому

    0:20 "Blackened Deathcore"
    I'm now a bit worried what exactly those drawings she's coloring depict.

  • @Efflorescentey
    @Efflorescentey Рік тому

    I wonder how Pandora differs? Pandora always knew exactly what I wanted to listen to even though I didn’t. I was devo when they left Australia

  • @raymiemiller1455
    @raymiemiller1455 Рік тому

    1:51 I really hope this is actually your Spotify playlist

  • @DubGamin420
    @DubGamin420 Рік тому +2

    My Spotify recommendation is really good actually 🤷🏾‍♂️
    Unfortunate that others haven't had a positive experience with the algorithm

  • @rollinroby4920
    @rollinroby4920 Рік тому

    Thank you for the "Sonic" profiles joke. Made my day.

  • @wgoode97
    @wgoode97 Рік тому

    Your time frequency representation image looked like it was just a colorized time amplitude representation. The thumbnail for the video appears to be correct though

  • @RatingRecords
    @RatingRecords Рік тому +1

    I switched to Tidal and it was instantly better. I highly recommend. Its better audio quality + its the same price too.

  • @icedragon9097
    @icedragon9097 Рік тому

    When spotify tries to make a playlist based on my music taste, it just shows me my most listened songs and i never find anything new

  • @brickrose9756
    @brickrose9756 Рік тому

    "This shark which has its own subreddit for some reason"
    Come-on Sam, we know you have a Blåhaj

  • @aidandonohue4296
    @aidandonohue4296 Рік тому

    Huge shoutout for blackened deathcore!

  • @Stunex
    @Stunex Рік тому +1

    Apparently like many others here I think Spotify's algorithm is not good at all.
    It has absolutely no clue why I like those 10% of songs in a particular genre I keep on repeat (or rather why I dislike the other 90% of them) and happily recommends stuff from the bunch I don't like over and over and over again.
    Which I most of the time just skip, get frustrated after a while and just keep listening to my usual playlists anyway.
    The only good songs in my personalized playlists are usually the ones I have already listened to 1000 times in my own playlists.
    The song radio is... okay most of the time, I guess.

  • @garrettmarshburn5595
    @garrettmarshburn5595 Рік тому

    i love being a listener of the niche examples

  • @Swampdragon102
    @Swampdragon102 Рік тому

    That last sentence will cause some Bad Blood.

  • @RaccoonHenry
    @RaccoonHenry Рік тому +1

    I have honestly never played any of my "Discover" playlists on Spotify. curated playlists are far enough away from complete albums for me, thank you very much...

  • @PS1212
    @PS1212 Рік тому +2

    They claim to have us figured out but by the basis that 95% of my Discover Weekly is music i hate & that theyres plenty of really good songs that never get listened to on spotify; im gonna say its a broken clock thats pretending to be an algorithm

  • @chattphotos
    @chattphotos Рік тому

    Ha!
    Discover Weekly/Pseudo-Recommends does not have me figured out at all.
    I regularly try to train it and still get the opposite of what I'm looking for.
    Songs I like:
    Upbeat German
    Techno-dance
    New-world Jazz
    Spotify:
    Boring & slow 1980's German love songs
    Random artists that aren't in the Top3 styles
    Mallorca Partayyyyyyy

  • @austinrowat5496
    @austinrowat5496 Рік тому

    Now I have a clear idea why I never get recommended anything unique/new on spotify. I always have to go find it instead, but I've always had to do that. But fun to know they're shit at giving you different music and suggest the same thing everytime, thats exactly what I don't want from my playlists.

  • @charleshollinshead
    @charleshollinshead Рік тому

    Spotify constantly recommends me the songs I already listen to,
    But from a different album/release.

  • @sideshowlw-4489
    @sideshowlw-4489 Рік тому

    If only the algorithm(s) would learn that if I keep skipping a suggested song, I don’t care how well it fits my profile and probably don’t want to hear it so it can stop suggesting it.

  • @ashleycarter5322
    @ashleycarter5322 Рік тому

    My Spotify auto-generated playlists like to put death metal and 2010s pop together and honestly its kind of a banger.

  • @oppenz3723
    @oppenz3723 Рік тому

    Basically, use Spotify if you're into discovering new songs and genres, get YT music if your taste is more niche and narrow focused into some specific genres.
    Also, turn off normalise volume on your Spotify, that shit will just messed your dynamic range of your music.

  • @therealdjflip
    @therealdjflip Рік тому

    For me most of the time, my spotify weekly playlist, is full of songs I have either, already heard and have marked as favorite , or are not to my tastes,
    likely due to the fact with certain genres, there is only certain artists I listen too

  • @visasha
    @visasha Рік тому +1

    spotify’s recommending algorithm only works if you listen to pop. emos and metalheads know this struggle all too well- promises of hardcore and scream perpetually unfulfilled by pages upon pages of fall out boy, mother mother, 100 gecs and various other generic tiktok-viral pop acts. their algorithm doesn’t ~miss independent artists~, it just sorts you into the nearest pop niche to the genres you really listen to and calls it a day. it’s impossible to find “new music” on spotify unless you already know where to look

  • @bro2proxbox593
    @bro2proxbox593 Рік тому

    Blackened deathcore goes hard

  • @Brambrew
    @Brambrew Рік тому +1

    0:37
    "Ranging from the world's most popular artists to the most niche indie productions on the platform"
    Shows a picture of Ed Sheeran as he says "the most niche indie production"
    💀

  • @bellakagamine
    @bellakagamine Рік тому +2

    this is probably the best ad for spotify i've ever heard. never used it but now i want to try it.

  • @Cyphule
    @Cyphule Рік тому

    The discover weekly algorithm is like the main reason I use Spotify over anything else. It can hone in extremely well on your tastes and recommends new stuff that you'll likely enjoy.

  • @android927
    @android927 Рік тому

    Okay, but when you showed how the giant matrix works why did you have zoom in to show my account specifically?

  • @feketefeher
    @feketefeher Рік тому

    i noticed years ago that if i want to listen to my favorite songs in shuffle, the algorithm tends to play songs in the genre i listened lately. but i want *mathematically* precise randomness because i want to stop listening that kind of music genre i got enough of. why isn’t there an option i can turn off and on for this?? i hate this.
    also this years Wrapped mostly contained songs i repeated many times within a small period of time. if i hooked on a song for a few days and the rest of the year i barely listened to, it got a place on my most liked songs…

  • @roeltz
    @roeltz Рік тому

    I feel UA-cam Music is better than Spotify in suggesting new music to listen to. Spotify thinks I only like latin genres just because I live in Colombia, and no matter what I started playing, eventually it falls back to stuff I don't really like.
    With UA-cam Music I can put one song, and the autoplay feature will be able to maintain a certain mood related to that song's genre, release era and related artists, even if those artists are not that popular or recent -and that's when I think Spotify is just trying to push the latest and most popular.

  • @tudorjason
    @tudorjason Рік тому

    3:09 - Or Ace of Base

  • @_adamalfath
    @_adamalfath Рік тому

    I feel bad to my Spotify recommendation after figuring out why my playlist jumps from Eric Clapton, then Skrillex, then M83, then Skyrim soundtrack, finally to Rammstein