Pirates On US Navy Satellites - UHF SatCom
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yes, this is Brazilian portuguese. A little hard to understand, but one of the guys is saying that he's running out of battery and needs to clean his "board" (not sure what he means) during the weekend. Basically, it sounds like they are setting up their radio systems.
Thanks Luis!! That’s awesome! 👌
Brazilian criminals uses WhatsApp. This is from remote areas. He say that the battery is bad because your solar panel is dirty, so they need to clean up in the weekend. Maybe they are Gold diggers in remote areas.
He's talking about his solar panel (not board), that he's got to clean it. He's also complaining the batery he's using is old.
@@juliocesarpereira4325 You're right
the audio quality is a bit poor, but he was saying he had to clean his solar panel, and that his battery was with low power and the battery was an old one, and he had to replace with a new one.
Without radio equipment, the common person is oblivious to what is going on airwaves literally around the world. Very interesting stuff.👍🤓🇦🇺
I've been listening to these "pirates" for years... I have one side of my Yaesu FT-8800R parked on 255.550MHz NFM...
Brilliant 😁
WHere r u roughly and what antenna r u using? Thanks man!
I'd say that "pirate" is a bit of an embellishment. Not one of these alleged "pirates" was heard saying "arrr" when they transmitted...
😂😂
StringerNews1 and none were in the Caribbean
I believe it is spelled "arrgh!"
"Intruders" is how the IARU name people who uses amateur radio frequencies without a valid license.
Maybe not but i sure did when i read this comment ..... :-)
i can hear them all the way from greece on the exact same frequency,wow
Nai Kai ego me teleio seima
Πως το κάνετε?τι κεραία χρησιμοποιείτε?
@@justsomedude4660 exw valei kata mikos olis tis taratsas ena kalodio orizodia(tixeou mikous)kai to pianw
Me too from germany
Τι μηχάνημα ;
Hi. One of them were talking about replacing his solar panel and his battery was old and that need to be changed too. Nothing else.
They are not all “pirates” intentionally as the input “uplink”’ to these few particular satcom channels happen too be in the legal bands in Brazil for commercial / business band / public bands similar to fm cb..... also in a few of the channels they are using the frequencies illegally BUT they are not talking through the satellite intentionally, just simplex on the ground from truck to truck as example, the normal daily traffic your hearing is mostly trucking operations with no clue they are on the satellite and it is not directly on the satellite input / uplink frequency either which why the quality of what your hearing is poor and off center carrier from the output your listening too. This started almost immediately when these sats were first put in service due to poor frequency management on the uplink side plus very high receiver sensitivity and with the main beam being in the lower Southern Hemisphere- Brazil region centered and these particular uplink / input channels are wideband linear which also playing into the issue. This has been a “conspiracy topic” with tons of wrong / misinformation since it started... The configuration of the satellites uplink / input linear transponders will not allow for reconfigurations that could be done to block the close frequency, they are using in Brazil, without effecting the other operational needs on these sats so it is just a fact a few channels pick up these users unintentionally. Yes there was a few cases of true malicious / illegal stations but what is heard daily on the few channels is not this case.
It is a Portuguese dialect with strong slang & abbreviations used heavily plus with the signal being off frequency on the uplinks input and the modulation index is higher then intended for the sat it makes it harder to understand too.
Thanks for your help, I had a feeling it was a CONSPIRACY theory, I've got enough basic knowledge of signals cb ham radio etc that I didn't believe it was even intentional
Most is intentional. Been there for decades now. Some guys in Brazil and Portugal even specialized in modified ham radios and commercial units (Motorola, etc.).
The first excuse from the "promoters" of the selling of the units was that they were using abandoned satellites. It was true at first. They would chose "past life" sat's that were "overshoooting" expected operacional life. Frequencies were carefully choosen to avoid troubles with the military.
But as units were being sold to everyone, less care was being taken, and soon started lots of abuse.
Mainly used by truckers, it became a sat CB.
Abuse of language, truckers tallking from Germany to their wives in Portugal, truckers in Amazonia (Brazil) in long chats, and illegal activities communications in South America became regular.
In Portugal, in the early stages of "brazilian copycats" I've warned those guys that there should be no normal use of UHF satcom for chats like CB. That was not a good idea.
But people pushed it (brazilians were doing it for years allmost without any trouble).
After a while, chaos and abuse was standard:
Long chats, interference with italian navy NATO coms, and the likes.
There were even guys using digital voice to avoid interception by other pirate users😀.
Things went so bad that a joint investigation by the Judiciary Police (high prestige Police), ANACOM (the portuguese FCC), GNR (kind of National Guard but with daily police action) and NATO military resulted in a border between Spain and Portugal welcome to truckers with prision arrests envolved.
Same in Brazil:
Next generation military direction finding (US military guys don't joke arround) led to precise pinpointing of pirate use, even in the Amazonia jungle.
Activity went down a lot after those operations.
The bad sound in this video is a result of low quality SDR (high quality SDR based receivers cost thousands) and a improvised antena (you should use a direccional antenna pointed at the satellite).
Some satellite transponders would let you get in touch with military tact teams in deep South America and Far East at the same time !!!!
Hope my information was usefull
it's a 100% intentional, see the antennas? no one uses circular polarization by accident. most of them are truck drivers.
@@jplacido9999 That was extremely useful and informative! Obrigado! 😉
@@jplacido9999 thank you for explaining
I think this is brilliant if space trash is no longer used then fair play to them. I would personally love to make something to listen to them.
Yeah 😂😂😂 most hams are crying about it online but hey if it keeps an unused sat alive who cares 🤷♂️
Is it possible that these pirates are just operating on the uplink frequency, and have no idea that they are ending up on a satellite?
yes they know what they are doing, there are people specialized in sales of equipment to operate these satellites here in Brazil, most of them are truck drivers who use the system just because there are regions that do not have any type of cell phone signal, they end up buying radios and installing and using it clandestinely, the guy who sells the equipment sells a kit that consists of a conventional vhf radio (136 to 174) and a converter for (250 to 320) and an antenna that is called a shower head.
Apparently, Ukrainians & Russians shout on them too. Battle sounds can be heard, so you know what's going on.
That's a great video. I'm from Brazil (PU5-YUR) but just came back to HAM. Didn't really know this, since videos that cover equipment able to transmit on the 200Mhz, namely the Socotrans, Radtel, etc, always mention "those activities" but not saying what they are for obvious reasons. Thank you
I've been receiving this frequency for over a year using a yagi antenna and a nooelec SDR. thanks for the great videos.
*Top Tip* for my Zombie apocalypse Toolbox. Cheers Matt.
Worked these Sats in 86 to link to P-3 in Iceland from the states.
we used them too in pacflt
While looking at the transmission without sound, I noticed how much of the band lit up..Plus, it looked like Morse code. That made me think the speech could be cover for the actual encrypted info that is piggybacked with each packet. It is an old CIA technique to do so. It was explained to me as "Kind of like playing a song in the back ground of a recorded conversation, You can hear it but you don't notice it much". The trick is, knowing the correct frequencies to cancel out and which ones to enhance so you can hear the actual transmission clearly and catching the signal as it too modulates within the frequency being used. . Think of it like Noise canceling headphones. An entire conversation could be going on in the background while two guys seemingly talk about dead batteries and cleaning a solar panel. Mundane yet jam packed with info. Doubtful but entertaining to think about.
One of this pirates used to send SSTV (slow scan television, no motion, only pictures) signals on one of the UFO sats consisting of old black and white pictures of some kids, a family, again kids and so on. Now, he (or she) moved to the new (and first) hamradio Oscar 100 part of a Quatar geostationary satellite. Nobody knows why he sends the photos, to whom, maybe he is ill, but he is not a full. He knows how to build the setup for Oscar 100 sat, aswell as he knew how to acces UFO sat until now. The transmission goes all day long, no identification, no voice, no explanation, nothing but theese old b/w pictures.
Wow creepy
Florin Gataiantu Tell me more about this and this Oscar 100 satellite for ham radio. interesting.
Maybe someone abducted by aliens long ago calling for help ;)
I'd call the police and see if they are missing persons.
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716😂😂😂😂
Some guys are like that. Shame on them. Incredibly, some are legal radioamateurs !!!! Shame !!!!
I'm in Portugal and I just discovered this today with my RTL-SDR, I was so confused in how I was receiving Brazillian amateur radio in Portugal :P I made a simple dipole antenna tuned to receive NOAA APT and I was able to receive these signal with that simple antenna. I also had to put a noise reduction filter but my reception was a bit better than that from your video, I bet if I tune the antena to 250 MHz I would receive it much clearer.
One of the guys said he's in the state of Piauí. He said he's got to clean his solar pannel and that his batery is old and has to change for a new one, then things will get much better. Piauí is on the northeast region of Brasil and it is one of the poorest states.
Thank you sir 🙏
Creamy Pasta it’s free to connect to these sats if you know how.. actually not that complicated, a $25 5 watt dual band Amateur radio from amazon and a little know how and you can tap into quiet a few of these connections this is hardly the only sat in the sky that you can tap into.
A word of warning though, you by law need to be licensed to use any of these things and licensing is free in most countries just need to pass a test. You however can freely listen to transmissions without a license just can not transmit without a license.
@@Honeypot-x9s So are you saying that a licensed ham/amateur radio operator can tap into these satellites?
@@624radicalham i cant speak for this specific sat i assume so because it is decommissioned. but yes to there being sats in the sky you can contact and use as repeaters :D
@@Honeypot-x9s I don't think so. Not legally if they are US Navy. Even if you're a ham
Rotatable Yagi antenna system used by HAM satellite communications.. may gives better reception/result. .
I can hear them even without additional antenna for my radio
do some more on this I would love to play around in this band
Very good video,more of this :)
I thought I was a hardcore SWLer but this is the first time I hear this and I'm blown away. Thank you so much for doing this! It demonstrates activity in a band I thought was dead. So it's 2 satellites and only 2 different frequencies to listen on or do the frequencies vary?
You’re welcome :) From what I gather there are multiple transponders on the satellites, each transponder can cary multiple transmissions, I think. If you’re using SDR you’ll be able to see a hump for each transponder. Maybe I’ll make another video on this . Cheers
@@TechMindsOfficial Oh man yeah another video would be awesome. Thanks so much for the reply I'll be on the hunt for these transmissions now!
Picked them up on my uniden 125 and mvt7100
They've been around for years. I use a DAB folded dipole to hear them along with either my R&S EB150 or SDRPlay RSP2. Reception is sometimes quite weak here in the UK, other times it comes up surprisingly strong.
I only need a small 20 cm long rubber duck antenna, signal is always 9+
@@VicGreenBitcoin I suppose it depends where you live. Here in NW England the sats are low in the sky and there are hills in the way.
@@andyhowlett2231 Always those bloody hills...
@@andyhowlett2231 in England how do you know ware to point it? I'm in northern Ireland...
@@damiengirvan5020 A dipole is not very directional, so just arrange it so it can see to the southwest. The satellites are in geosynchronous orbit (so fixed in the sky) and appear quite low in the sky from the UK.
Also in Equatorial Guinea good reception with a 6m yagi directed to west :) Many "talkers" around 260 Mhz in NFM as of today (06.07.2023)
I can hear these transmissions all the way in Northern Canada! Amazing!
Ive heard them too, with a home brew QFH and a hack RF, as well as on my yeasu ft 817 with a full size gv5r dipole configured as an inverted v
In the tittle you said uhf. But 255.548.309mhz is technically still vhf as UHF classification start at 300mhz
I'm brazilian and they are trucker, not drug dealers. I'm listenning them on my SDR.
I live in Germany (South Hesse) and have received them without problems with a similar setup described in this video. A Diamond X-300N antenna (12m above ground), 20m coax (ecoflex 10) and a 10€ generic RTL-SDR (that thing with the blue plastic case).
It the cheapest setup I used so far, the most important part is of course the antenna which must be able to see the horizon and a good cable. I have also used other SDRs like an Airspy and an USRP B210, but the RTL-SDR works too. The only difference is, that the noise floor of the RTL-SDR is a bit high and you won't be able to see the noise of unused transponders on the satellite.
A friend tried the same, but he used an old TV antenna pointed into a random direction. He also had limited success, the carrier was barely visible in the waterfall diagram and the fft plot (with a lot of averaging to get the noise down).
(But after having received them and knowing that it works, it becomes boring real fast. I haven't tried it for over 2 years, but when it was new, it was quite exciting)
up here in scandinavia you can get them on a discone antenna.
YOU GET WHAT YOU PUT OUT !
wow. so cool . thanks for the Edu. hope to see more. later dan t palm springs calif USA
Curious and very interesting...
Very cool. I love satcoms. I wish somebody made a good SDR transceiver. My old FLEX 5000 had the VHF/UHF card in it and was great.
I used my Icom ID 52a handheld and came across them.
i used to work for a company here in the US that specialized in finding the locations of unauthorized users like that for our customers. We really only worked in C and Ku bands, but the principles are still the same. It would be super easy to find them if they really wanted to.
CRYPTO-RADIO no i wasn’t, unfortunately. That job was based out of Colorado Springs, though technically we could have done it anywhere since everything was done over VPNs to the geolocation sites. They always wanted us in the office though.
i’d love to be out on the west coast somewhere though 😅
CRYPTO-RADIO there is a loooooot of military there, but also a lot of liberal people as well.
I can hear them near the Southern Canadian Border using a pair of rabbit ears oriented horizontally on a pvc pipe in my yard connected to an RTL-SDR.
Brilliant
Yep... it's definitely Brazilian Portuguese... they learned "this illegal stuff" from our politicians!
Thanks. Cool video.
I need to try this!
Wow Awesome video I subscrire your channel!
Seems like narrow band FM works quite well
What's the uplink and downlink frequency's?
"....My battery is weak. i gotta clean my solar panels...." they said
Mostly Brazilians who were caught
Around 320 mhz they were open
Im a complete newbie but this was fantastic!
Amazing !! ... and I had a couple of SDR's ... still can't figure out how to use them ..... maybe someday they'll come with some instructions :(
Not likely. Google is your instructions.
@@christi_L I know your right :(
Brilliant.
And I thought SWL was a short for ShortWave Listening. However, I can hear these brazilian fellows pretty easy here in Sweden, even when I'm mobile.
It does stand for shortwave listener.
awesome video! This is news to me as well.
The antenna on the fltsat satellites looks circularly polarized. How did you manage to receive the signal with a crossed dipole? And how long was each pole in the crossed dipole antenna?
Crossed dipole is easily made to receive circularly polarised signals by introducing the appropriate 90° phase shift between the signals from each dipole before combining them and feeding them into the receiver.
Alternatively, just use a single dipole to receive a circularly polarised signal, and tolerate the 3 dB loss of signal strength.
sim e br esse e o "setelite bolinha" usa rádios de 220mhz com off set
One thing about sdr# is after all the great software why isn't there a mode that will automatically find the carrier (if we can see it the software can "see" it) and automatically move the VFO to center around the carrier?
I use a plug for Inmarsat reception which has the ability to track a carrier. However, you're right, it's an AFC! :-)
@@TechMindsOfficial Now if we can get a universal language translator plug-in we will be all set
Heavy traffic currently on 253.850
i head this today. also heard what sounded more like russian around the same freqs
Wonder what the uplink frequency is? Any tones required?
And when the FLTSATCOMs go down, they won't have anything lol
Very interessting! I have to thing about buying an SDR Card :-) Actually cool when pirates use Militair Satelites. They will be recorded for sure 😂73 from Switzerland HB9TIA
Do you know uplink frequencies? These freqs on 250mhz are downlink, so maybe the transmit on other freq to the sat. Anyone knows ?
Think I read somewhere that they are around 40mhz up, but I am unsure, sorry.
+45
Quite strong with my QFH antenna but I have the bw set at 8 khz
Yeh I just narrowed the BW because they were not that strong with me, great job on receiving them. Where are you located?
For receiving we use sdr but what is the best transmitter and show us the transmitter setup and software.
I don’t think I will cover how to transmit, but there is info on the internet if you desire
I picked up some of this traffic a few days ago. I couldn't figure out what it was. Now, I know.
What are the input offsets? Won't be able to hear the input but its nice to have info.
From some research I done I found one report saying the inputs are 41 MHz up, but as you say, unless you're near the person transmitting I doubt you'd hear them.
@@SignalsEverywhere
Being fined (ten or more thousand) has nothing to do with having a license or not. A fine is a fine. 😟😵
@@TechMindsOfficial
If the bird is over the Indian Ocean, is it possible to receive it in So. California?
Hi. Are these sats still operating? How can listen to that? I mean what antenna and where to point? Will see if can listen from West Europe.
Yep, I received this from UK and I just used a dual band antenna on my roof. I’m sure with a dedicated antenna pointing towards the sat you’d get a stronger signal.
@@TechMindsOfficial, what is the Sat name so I can find it's location to point to it?
Use airspy version and short sat tv coax. Reception will be better.
As always, great stuff. BTW, have you done a post showing the differences between gnu radio and sdrsharp? Which is better for new players in this DDR game.
Thanks LordHog! I havnt done that yet, but I have a really really long list of videos I want to make and exploring GNURadio is on that list :) thanks for watching! 👍
LordHog - If you’re new, definitely stick with sdrsharp, for now. Just properly installing the drivers, can be a bit of a challenge. However, there are some great step-by-step tutorials, on www.nooelec.com
Gnu radio runs under Linux, which, if you’re not familiar with using it, may not be your best choice. Also, when using gnu radio, you have to ‘build’ each radio, in the software’s interface, which has a very steep learning curve, unless you REALLY understand how radios work. (I’ve been an EE for 31 years, and sometimes find it challenging.) The real advantage of gnu radio, is that it allows you to transmit, if you’re using a HackRF One.
*Tech Minds exposing pirates since 2019*
I can barely tune FM broadcast radio with my SDR. This is crazy!
utp216 if you’re using the bunny your antenna you need to shorten/lengthen it in order to tune it properly
you do not want that , get a 88.108 notch filter and you will see lots of signals on other bands
The reception with these satellites is great. My dad used to talk way back, like 2003, 04. There were much more HAM operators than there's today, they all used codenames, and it wasn't just Brazil in the past, my dad used to chat with plp in Portugal too, in especial with 2 guys which their codenames were "Asterix" and "Obelix". We later found out they were two helicopter brush fire pilots. Everyone stopped chatting using these sats when the feds busted some guys that sold upconverters. My dad never bought and always made his own converters, very easy to do. Nowadays it is very sad to see that the sats are being used for illegal things, but back in the day it was very fun and plp were very nice.
As far as we Brazilians are concerned, we don't give a fuck that these satellites were designed with linear transponders and no authentication, it's the US Navy problem, and they should deactivate the fleet somehow, but they don't seem very concerned because this is going on for more than 20 years and the only arrests were made only because some guys were building and selling the converters
Great information, thank you for sharing 👍
@@guilherme94 Yes, you are rigth. The commercial selling brought unethical guys to the band that became chaotic.
By the way: the nickname of the band in "pirate" circles is "Bolinha" 😁😁😁 ("litle ball")
The pinned comment is totaly right. One mention Piauí, a state in northeast. I bet this is just someone in a remote area killing time by talking to another enthusiast.
It is Portuguese! How would you build a transceiver for these frequencies or is one commercially available?
if you have knowledge you can build tranceiver for any frequency.
What do you need for an antenna please?
I got the same on my new baofeng tri-bander and it's Portugese but I have no idea what they are saying. The only Portugese word I know is obrigado (thankyou) but they never said that word!
Can they transmit to this satcom with a cheap HT or Modified CB radio with rubber duck antennas or fixed yagis?!
From the pictures I saw on the internet it would most likely require some form of directional antenna, but if you’re close enough to the sat, then probably just a vertical.
Anything under 300mhz is still VHF not UHF. Nitpick I know, but this stuff is at about 250 megs at that's VHF.
Blame the US Navy ... they originally called it "UHF" and now other countries who use similar systems call it the same.
How do you know where to point the antenna? To transmit?
You can buy directional satellite finders for stationary satellites. Great for companies like Foxtel in Australia but of course theirs is for TV. Even apps on your phone can find satellites like Satellite Finder.
Hmmm, 257MHZ, you say UHF. Here in Canada VHF is 30 to 300MHZ. Maybe your country has different spectrum designations. Where are you from?
Steve Carlisle I agree with you, but UHF Satcom is what these satellites are referred to as. 🤷♂️ VHF sounds better tho
How high is high? It's all relative.
Those are ITU frequency ranges, you might have them confused. ITU is international.
Technically you are right. Don't take it personally. It's the generic name for the system (240-400 MHz).
The 4 decades old FLTSATCOM still going 😁
Is this freq still active??
are the fleetcom sattelites simple repeaters with no authentication codes?
Pretty much yeh
Being geostationary and so easy to use, they are a dream for HAMs. And being so obsolete, and ill-designed I wish they would open them officially to no longer be illegal. Of course it will never happen.
Cá entre nós... Os camaradas americanos colocam um satélite com repetidor linear dando "sopa" no espaço?! O que mais eles querem?! Nem a Nasa p/ consegue estudar nós...
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*"...Pirates..."* Yeah that's what the CIA want you to think. 😁
How can one copy this using a WebSDR?
Thanks
The conversation was about batteries and solar panel, nothing suspicious but could be codewords. I'm Portuguese, the audio was crap but I could understand most of it.
Hey man, which filter plugin did you use ?
If you install the community edition of SDR# I believe that filter is included.
@@TechMindsOfficial yes I've installed it from air spy website. What's the name of the filter ?
Beleza!!
I thought Moonraker was in Australia. Didn't know they were in the UK.
www.moonraker.eu they are based in Milton Keynes area UK. They have an ebay shop too.
@Trent Trent in fairness Moonraker is pretty crappy quality gear. I can understand why the Aussies want to distance themselves from it.
It's fine if you accept you're going to have to improve things and you do get lucky from time to time but it's not top quality kit.
I've had some yagi's advertised as suitable for VHF ham radio from them that were resonant in the bloody air bands, required some tuning post install, which is fine if you're expecting it... Less fine if your antenna is up a mast that requires two of you to move it.
@Trent Trent Moonraker in the UK have been trading since the 80's - i remember them in the CB days and have rediscovered them since becoming a licenced amateur.
Why there is a huge difference in the price of RTL-SDR in Amazon website and in the link which you have posted.
It may just be the package, choose which one is cheapest but make sure it’s authentic
You’ll find out lol. Mine didn’t even do HF.
You’ll find out lol. Mine didn’t even do HF.
@@BrekMartin why ? Was it not working ?
manish manu My eBay ones didn’t work below broadcast FM, even if they claimed down to 500kHz or so.
What is the uplink frequency? 73 de ve3hip in Welland Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
I think it’s 40 or 50 MHz up
+45 MHz or minus. I haven't tried. I receive them very well here in Montreal with a 2 element yagi for 220 MHz.
041.000 shift +
I think Long John Silver used these too.
Avast me mateys, hoist the satellite dish on the mizzen mast!
The fish & chips guy?
why not use hackrf?
I love pirating it greats
this is great. what ya mean by an echo chamber?
It’s a box which goes between a mic and a CB radio so that the voice has an echo effect on it. 👍 Not entirely sure that guy had echo but sounded like it
@@TechMindsOfficial oohhhh i see :P cheers dude - cool video. its neat hearing voices in the maelstrom like that
@@TechMindsOfficial Almost certainly he was using a second radio/sdr to monitor himself coming back off the bird, which gives an echo effect due to the sat delay.
See my answer to Casey's commentary.
Some interesting storys there.
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It's abandoned hardware I hardly call that hacking. Still impressive feat.
They use mostly standard Ham equipment and frequency up-converters to transmit the proper uplink frequency... I've seen a few articles on them... You should check out the antennas... lots are repurposed 18" satellite dishes with heavy modifications to make them RCP (right-hand circular polarized)...
Im Brazilian they are saying: oww ywall its só sad my baterry. Is old when my baterry os old chief theres a lack of signal and clarity ohh that bad (laugh) I will clean the board and change the baterry and trasmittion will be shinny shinny (laugh)
Aeroplane's son, don't let the side down.
I came across those strange conversation in Portuguese some time ago and I was thinking to myself, what I’m actually listen to. Now I know. I have no problem to have good reception using my TV antenna on the top of the roof lol. At the moment when I writing this comment, I can hear about 10 different conversation on different frequencies. What is very interesting, on 254.776 MHz I receiving something what sounds like Ukrainian radio. Anyone can receive this?
Would have been fun to listen to Oliver North and his group back in the 80s....that's if they had the nerve to broadcast without codes.
os brazuka tão em todo lugar em uahsauhsuahsuash
Yep....and the way our gov sees it, tis a great way to monitor for intel. You can definitely rest assure that those sats were left on purpose and judging by what I was hearing.....we need them now, as well as in the very near future
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Is portuguese, they're talking about buying a new battery for a solar panel...