Fun fact about the mobile version of kino. If you shoot the zombies before they run into the fire trap, it will count towards your kills. So it's not impossible for a runner to get kills from the fire trap. But just not the amount that the one guy said
ZWR just needs to split console/PC into different categories due to the massive advantages and differences between the 2 experiences, especially when talking about speedruns and maybe sort of like how origins has an any% speedrun perhaps fast ray could fall into that category too
Simply changing the FPS alters the gravity of the older zombies games so most of the highly optimized movement speedrun games are all on PC due in part to that and due to how the interaction buttons work on PC compared to console as well as things like fast restart allowing for more attempts.
For that fast ray gun thing, I think it should he allowed as a seperate catagory, so you can have normal WR rounds and FRG allowed WR for example, that way people who like the exploit can have their own scene without ruining the biggest scene of WR round players
I’d say to just split the records, kinda like with old Wii games. Wii Sports 1.0 has faster load times and less cutscenes than its 1.1 update. Also 1.0 is EXTREMELY rare so they separated the speedruns for 1.0 category and 1.1 category respectively Just split the records into Console Runs and PC Runs, that way people can use it but keep it fair, with that it’s then Console players Vs Console players and PC Vs PC
A note for the round 74 on Five: After looking at old web archives of his channel, he uploaded multiple videos of the game until the elusive round 74 video. The video was actually unlisted until July 2021, but no one apparently had the link for it. The other videos weren't archived and are still unavailable, but he didn't just use godmode the entire game (presumably).
I really like Rushins videos, i used to binge the Nixaru world record history videos like a mofo but now that they're gone for good i was really upset but then Rushin started making these and i really like them
I miss Nixaru. I don’t know what happened, I woke up one morning and the channel was just gone. I stopped watching his content several months before it disappeared, but now I just wish Nixaru would come back.
@@mozz6790Nixaru came out as trans as changed her channel to Vixarya. She made a few videos but got a lot of backlash for being trans so deleted all vids and stopped uploading. I think the channel still exists
@@mozz6790 from what i heard he started making really overly left wing political content about zombies which cause him to get lots of hate, then a bit after that he transitioned then deleted a lot of his old videos and changed is account name
“No clue how Dalek keeps popping up here.” Well, I do. Dude cheats. A lot. And he steals content. A lot. Apologizing doesn’t make it better if you keep doing it. Idk why he always gets a pass.
For me, personally, the removal of Fast Raygun was justified Everyone should be on fair grounds when high rounding or speedrunning in general. It's why a lot of speedruns require you to cap at 60 FPS, so someone with superior hardware can't immediately have an unfair advantage because they paid for said hardware
A lot of glitched speedruns have you lower fps to like 3. It causes skips and many other things but you are right when someone can have 165 fps they will have a slight advantage
In orginal zombies, at least bo1 and before, any damage would cause the zombie to "bleed out". Not respawn. Hours of trainig the last zombie on nacht only for it to drop dead and start a new round, taught us this.
what’s the point in removing things for speed runs bc fairness, it’s a test to see how far you can get in the fastest way now and like you said most of the runs are at a stand still, i don’t see why not keeping it around to see what ppl can do
For me, where do you draw the line? This has long been a problem in speedrunning, what constitutes an exploit in a glitchless run? If you can reach a checkpoint through a wall? If you can gain speed by bhopping? Or more specifically to zombies: If you can get into a spot enemies can't hit you? By banning the fast raygun, are we saying that exploits can't be used? So then that firetrap spot you showed a few times throughout the video on Kino, that would be disallowed. Or the infamous dog round spot.
I don't know if anyone else has pointed this out but I find the comment "use crappy wall weapons, shoot all of the ammo into the zombies, buy ammo and repeat for like 50 hours straight" as a diss to points based records, pretty funny considering, how different is that to going for high rounds?
I've been around the zombie scene for awhile but never really got into bo4 I wanna go for high rounds on bo4 zombies now a days but don't know any good solo/co-op strategies. Are there any good ones ?
Back when the game first came out, getting to high rounds was fairly easy due to all overpowered shit the game gave you. The best strat for me was the specialist katana, wraith fire, and the victorious tortoise perk on the 4th slot (Basically making you invincible). As for training, you'll find a spot as you learn the map layout.
@RushinGG How to do the fast raygun trick on console: first hold your controller with index finger on top bumper, and middlefl finger with bottom trigger. Then hold button to reload with index finger, lean index finger to switch weapon button and hold both, then shoot with middle finger and aim with thumb, already patched on console though
if it goes for official records every strategy is and should be both "hardware and software normalized". what i mean by that is simple: a strategy is valid when a) everyone can do it no matter the plattform and b) no matter their used hardware. fast ray gun should therefore not be valid simply because spending money to buy a mouse with unlockable mouswheel just so you can have a shot at WR shouldnt be encouraged. this doesnt need any discussion. there is a reason why many speedruns have the rules they have: fairness in the competition. if you can pay for an advantage is it really a competion?
To people who don’t think fast ray gun isn’t cheating, it’s like taking steroids it is cheating it giving an advantage into performance that wouldn’t be possible without the substance. Far as I can see it should be if can’t do it on console it should be ban.
My highest round on zombies mobile (or anywhere)is around 260 I was just running around with a galil and thunder gun. The thunder gun is so glitchy it just makes the zombies despawn instead of flying away in high rounds 😂
@@hemoso5 I call bullshit my guy. black ops 3 has a round limit of 255, after that the game glitches out and rounds stop progressing due to a long standing bug. The current world record for kino in black ops 1 is 240, and thats an incredibly optimized run that took 80~ hours. why lie on a yt video literally about debunking a liar?
Honestly I’m not surprised but hey it’s was then they don’t make this these mistakes and actually call people out like u do so props love u Luke keep it up❤❤❤❤
Zwr is so fucking confusing to me. You can’t do the staff glitch on bo2, yet you can use offline megas in bo3. So something everyone can do is banned, but something that gives pc a MASSIVE advantage is totally allowed. Worst thing is that the rules are fan voted. We decided that was a good idea. We’re dumbasses
Ever since I joined the community on BO3's release you quickly realized that MrDalekJD and MrTLexify are figures to be far away from. Both talking and promoting so much nonsense.
As someone who recently got back into zombies thanks to Cold War going free to play on PlayStation for the month of July, I believe that round 250,000 is just not humanly feasible. It would just take way too long unless you use that round skipping glitch.
@@matemindak384 yeah. Being on an untouchable portion of the map is only useful if you can get out of it without dying. You'll run out of ammo eventually, and at some point full ammo won't get you through a round.
the zombies one sounds like someone was butthurt because their times got beat and just decided to ban it. I would to if I spent countless hours to get WR and then some start just makes it irrelevant by 30 hours. Just sounds like a case of butthurt than trying to really optimize the game for everyone.
I said Syndicate cheated. There's just not an obvious smoking gun moment that you can point to and 10000% say its all fake because of. Syndicate's was a culmination of many smaller discrepancies
Lemme get this straight; Dalek has attempted to fake multiple records and has been caught blatantly plagiarizing smaller Zombies UA-camrs work? He can make all the low effort clickbait YT vids he want I don't think he deserves the respect you were giving him a video or two back
I think fast ray is fine as it allows you to shoot the ray gun that the speed the dev allowed to be shot at, just don’t use a macro. Besides it shouldn’t matter if it’s splitting people from console and pc since pc the best place to do it especially blops 2 since console gets hunk errors about 30 hours in. Only records that should be done on console is the waw maps.
You shouldnt really try to give excuses for darlekjd, he's been caught several times outright copying videos and apparently did it again recently. Honestly the best thing anyone can do with that guy, stop watching his crap.
Why are you digging up crap from so long ago he’s not into that crap anymore or doing anything like it. Why are you bring attention to him like this? especially with all the attention of giving him. It’s going to be awful and negative why would you actually do this to him.
The posts don't exist anymore and I never showed their name. You would have to do some incredible digging to find who even started all of this. Don't really get how anything could be negative for them 🤷♂️
It took me and my friends 9 hours to get to round 150 on blood of the dead on BO4 I couldnt imagine going to 250k legit. That would take weeks lol game would've crashed by then
Fun fact about the mobile version of kino. If you shoot the zombies before they run into the fire trap, it will count towards your kills. So it's not impossible for a runner to get kills from the fire trap. But just not the amount that the one guy said
ZWR just needs to split console/PC into different categories due to the massive advantages and differences between the 2 experiences, especially when talking about speedruns and maybe sort of like how origins has an any% speedrun perhaps fast ray could fall into that category too
Simply changing the FPS alters the gravity of the older zombies games so most of the highly optimized movement speedrun games are all on PC due in part to that and due to how the interaction buttons work on PC compared to console as well as things like fast restart allowing for more attempts.
@@TheLucarioProject Pretty sure you mean current FPS changes the physics, FOV has nothing to do with it
Yeah FPS not FOV but the point is still the same
Definitely
Just move with times get a pc and use a controller
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The transition from the mobile version to the regular one made me reappreciate how nice it looks.
Shit looked next-gen for a sec 😂
I think if fast raygun were used in a run it should be for a “Glitch high round speedrun” type category
I agree. Apparently the zombies community don't know what categories are
For that fast ray gun thing, I think it should he allowed as a seperate catagory, so you can have normal WR rounds and FRG allowed WR for example, that way people who like the exploit can have their own scene without ruining the biggest scene of WR round players
I wish that was the case for all speedruns. Having any% being the default just sucks.
I’d say to just split the records, kinda like with old Wii games.
Wii Sports 1.0 has faster load times and less cutscenes than its 1.1 update. Also 1.0 is EXTREMELY rare so they separated the speedruns for 1.0 category and 1.1 category respectively
Just split the records into Console Runs and PC Runs, that way people can use it but keep it fair, with that it’s then Console players Vs Console players and PC Vs PC
"we came up with a new way of getting to higher rounds"
"it would be too difficult for everyone to do, so no, we won't allow it"
A note for the round 74 on Five: After looking at old web archives of his channel, he uploaded multiple videos of the game until the elusive round 74 video. The video was actually unlisted until July 2021, but no one apparently had the link for it. The other videos weren't archived and are still unavailable, but he didn't just use godmode the entire game (presumably).
I really like Rushins videos, i used to binge the Nixaru world record history videos like a mofo but now that they're gone for good i was really upset but then Rushin started making these and i really like them
I miss Nixaru. I don’t know what happened, I woke up one morning and the channel was just gone. I stopped watching his content several months before it disappeared, but now I just wish Nixaru would come back.
@@mozz6790Nixaru came out as trans as changed her channel to Vixarya. She made a few videos but got a lot of backlash for being trans so deleted all vids and stopped uploading. I think the channel still exists
@@mozz6790 from what i heard he started making really overly left wing political content about zombies which cause him to get lots of hate, then a bit after that he transitioned then deleted a lot of his old videos and changed is account name
She came out as trans and got proceeded to be bullied right off UA-cam. A UA-camr named Krazy Rabbit made videos almost daily targeting her.
@@malcomholmes5250no she didn't. She made a video about how patriarchy applied to the map Ancient Evil and was shunned and bullied until she left.
“No clue how Dalek keeps popping up here.” Well, I do. Dude cheats. A lot. And he steals content. A lot. Apologizing doesn’t make it better if you keep doing it. Idk why he always gets a pass.
He gets away with it because he was good friends with Noah
No, we have not all posted fake stuff online for attention from strangers in the form of reddit posts
For me, personally, the removal of Fast Raygun was justified
Everyone should be on fair grounds when high rounding or speedrunning in general. It's why a lot of speedruns require you to cap at 60 FPS, so someone with superior hardware can't immediately have an unfair advantage because they paid for said hardware
A lot of glitched speedruns have you lower fps to like 3. It causes skips and many other things but you are right when someone can have 165 fps they will have a slight advantage
i mean round 250,000 that title alone kinda smells ¨this aint legit¨ 😂😂
In orginal zombies, at least bo1 and before, any damage would cause the zombie to "bleed out". Not respawn. Hours of trainig the last zombie on nacht only for it to drop dead and start a new round, taught us this.
For fast ray gun, do you bind all 3, shoot, reload and switch weapon do the same scroll up/ scroll down or how does it work ?
what’s the point in removing things for speed runs bc fairness, it’s a test to see how far you can get in the fastest way now and like you said most of the runs are at a stand still, i don’t see why not keeping it around to see what ppl can do
Whats even more crazy, TheRelaxingEnd is now an unboxer... did not know this until recently, glad he found his hitch
For me, where do you draw the line?
This has long been a problem in speedrunning, what constitutes an exploit in a glitchless run?
If you can reach a checkpoint through a wall?
If you can gain speed by bhopping?
Or more specifically to zombies:
If you can get into a spot enemies can't hit you?
By banning the fast raygun, are we saying that exploits can't be used? So then that firetrap spot you showed a few times throughout the video on Kino, that would be disallowed. Or the infamous dog round spot.
Let's gooooo another new vid by mommy Rushin
That dalek five video unlocked a memory I forgot I had
I don't know if anyone else has pointed this out but I find the comment "use crappy wall weapons, shoot all of the ammo into the zombies, buy ammo and repeat for like 50 hours straight" as a diss to points based records, pretty funny considering, how different is that to going for high rounds?
I've been around the zombie scene for awhile but never really got into bo4 I wanna go for high rounds on bo4 zombies now a days but don't know any good solo/co-op strategies. Are there any good ones ?
Back when the game first came out, getting to high rounds was fairly easy due to all overpowered shit the game gave you. The best strat for me was the specialist katana, wraith fire, and the victorious tortoise perk on the 4th slot (Basically making you invincible). As for training, you'll find a spot as you learn the map layout.
i think they could make a different speedrun/high round category that allows the exploit and does not interfere with the "legit" high rounds/speedruns
U dont even need a special mouse to fast raygun, you only need to spamroll and spam reaload while holding down shoot
@RushinGG How to do the fast raygun trick on console: first hold your controller with index finger on top bumper, and middlefl finger with bottom trigger. Then hold button to reload with index finger, lean index finger to switch weapon button and hold both, then shoot with middle finger and aim with thumb, already patched on console though
if it goes for official records every strategy is and should be both "hardware and software normalized". what i mean by that is simple: a strategy is valid when a) everyone can do it no matter the plattform and b) no matter their used hardware. fast ray gun should therefore not be valid simply because spending money to buy a mouse with unlockable mouswheel just so you can have a shot at WR shouldnt be encouraged. this doesnt need any discussion. there is a reason why many speedruns have the rules they have: fairness in the competition. if you can pay for an advantage is it really a competion?
To people who don’t think fast ray gun isn’t cheating, it’s like taking steroids it is cheating it giving an advantage into performance that wouldn’t be possible without the substance. Far as I can see it should be if can’t do it on console it should be ban.
I know this video is a year later but the should of made a separate wr board for fast ray gun so it still be allowed. A wr for non FRG and one for FRG
Yea, y did they even remove the mobile version of zombies from ALL app stores? Never found anything on it.
They added oldest to UA-cam again! Some of his old vids have a few hundred views crazy
why wouldn't they just make a fast raygun category?
Top 5 drama in the next episode?
You mean that the person who got caught plagiarizing smaller channels videos numerous times was also a cheater!?! Shocked, utterly shocked.
I remember trying to play to a high round on zombies mobile and honestly yeah it was glitchy af
If fast ray gun requires a specific type of mouse then it should be banned, if not then just separate the categories???
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yeah dont place me with your insecurities man
The relaxing end is a troll!
I got here hella fast and well this is surprising what can i say
Babe wake up Rushin posted
My highest round on zombies mobile (or anywhere)is around 260 I was just running around with a galil and thunder gun. The thunder gun is so glitchy it just makes the zombies despawn instead of flying away in high rounds 😂
I have proof of 255 and my training strategy was running around on the stage with the thunder gun nothing too crazy
@@hemoso5 I call bullshit my guy. black ops 3 has a round limit of 255, after that the game glitches out and rounds stop progressing due to a long standing bug. The current world record for kino in black ops 1 is 240, and thats an incredibly optimized run that took 80~ hours. why lie on a yt video literally about debunking a liar?
@@andrewbartlesby7958 did you not read the first sentence?
@@andrewbartlesby7958 also mobile port of zombies doesn’t have a round cap at 255
@@hemoso5 you edited your post LMAO
isnt the reset for nuketown insanely high and round 100 is definitely possible without fast raygun?
Honestly I’m not surprised but hey it’s was then they don’t make this these mistakes and actually call people out like u do so props love u Luke keep it up❤❤❤❤
Zwr is so fucking confusing to me. You can’t do the staff glitch on bo2, yet you can use offline megas in bo3.
So something everyone can do is banned, but something that gives pc a MASSIVE advantage is totally allowed. Worst thing is that the rules are fan voted. We decided that was a good idea. We’re dumbasses
Your telling me you couldn’t figure out if someone getting past round 256 is possible or not 😕
So Dalek cheated and plagiarized? Why do people still watch him after all that
Yeah fast raygun should 100% be it's own category, it's literally not possible on console
Am surprised he was caught cheating
i cant believe anybody would’ve believed it lol
Tbh it's not that the strat was op its that it requires hardware which everyone might not have
Didn’t you already make a video on this
And is there ANYWAY to get it still?
What's the WR for ascension, I'm on round 300
why the hell did people thing it was fake anyway? no one is getting that
Ever since I joined the community on BO3's release you quickly realized that MrDalekJD and MrTLexify are figures to be far away from. Both talking and promoting so much nonsense.
Can you put music on your vids?
my dad has a record of round 84 on five
Rule of thumb should be if console player can’t do it then it should be ban
I was going for ascension high world wr for bo1 mobile i got to round 212 and my thunder gun bugged out and i couldn't shoot it
yo i actually did this, i played the mobile version for like 1 year but sadly idk my round anymore :(
Why’s bro starting zombies beef in 2023 😭🙏💀
Dalek steals content as well
istg i just watched your video from 2 or 3 years ago on the 250000 fake WR
I could’ve told you that.
Whats the point of bringing this up? This is literally like 11 years old.
Hey nice b-day gift a Luke video
It’s crazy that mrdalek stole someone else’s video and got away with it
17 HOURS LATE SQUAD WHERE YOU AT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
As someone who recently got back into zombies thanks to Cold War going free to play on PlayStation for the month of July, I believe that round 250,000 is just not humanly feasible. It would just take way too long unless you use that round skipping glitch.
I think fast ray gun should be allowed, the high round community is all about pushing the maps to their limits, why does that also need limits?
Not everyone is going to buy a PC to have an advantage with a glitch
a seperate category would fix it all
@@matemindak384 fast ray gun is glitch, aimbot is a hack, how is that a good comparison?
@@matemindak384 yeah. Being on an untouchable portion of the map is only useful if you can get out of it without dying. You'll run out of ammo eventually, and at some point full ammo won't get you through a round.
I get it… but it’s not that serious buddy.
Well duhhh
What about nuke kills
Ok how do you mod a phone game
Game Guardian, Modded APK
OMG NO WAY
9:22a.m. 7/29/2023
Why would bill gates have the newest ipad xd
GODLY NICE!
the zombies one sounds like someone was butthurt because their times got beat and just decided to ban it. I would to if I spent countless hours to get WR and then some start just makes it irrelevant by 30 hours. Just sounds like a case of butthurt than trying to really optimize the game for everyone.
You confirm that he cheated but not syndicate?
I said Syndicate cheated. There's just not an obvious smoking gun moment that you can point to and 10000% say its all fake because of. Syndicate's was a culmination of many smaller discrepancies
To get to round 200k ull have to play for days literally days likes almost a week
3:55 Nvm damn
It was t 8 million it was 800k
Damn
Lemme get this straight; Dalek has attempted to fake multiple records and has been caught blatantly plagiarizing smaller Zombies UA-camrs work? He can make all the low effort clickbait YT vids he want I don't think he deserves the respect you were giving him a video or two back
Meh who cares that dalek cheated, dream cheated and noone said anything about his world record at the time
i had relaxingend friended on bo2
i use to watch all his vids that’s crazy i hella forgot about him
I think fast ray is fine as it allows you to shoot the ray gun that the speed the dev allowed to be shot at, just don’t use a macro. Besides it shouldn’t matter if it’s splitting people from console and pc since pc the best place to do it especially blops 2 since console gets hunk errors about 30 hours in.
Only records that should be done on console is the waw maps.
You shouldnt really try to give excuses for darlekjd, he's been caught several times outright copying videos and apparently did it again recently. Honestly the best thing anyone can do with that guy, stop watching his crap.
Dude this video slaps harder than my Dad's belt
Why are you digging up crap from so long ago he’s not into that crap anymore or doing anything like it.
Why are you bring attention to him like this?
especially with all the attention of giving him. It’s going to be awful and negative why would you actually do this to him.
The posts don't exist anymore and I never showed their name. You would have to do some incredible digging to find who even started all of this. Don't really get how anything could be negative for them 🤷♂️
are we supose to be stupid of something of course 250 000 rounds is cheated
It took me and my friends 9 hours to get to round 150 on blood of the dead on BO4 I couldnt imagine going to 250k legit. That would take weeks lol game would've crashed by then
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Dude dont know left from right wtf lol what else did you get wrong lmfao
nvm lol seen the "fix"
UNBAN FAST RAY!!!!
Person: Mom can i buy a new pc mouse?
Mom: No
Person: BAN THE GLITCH!
Pretty much how it went
I don’t know if it’s impressive or depressing that people know so much about Call of Duty Zombies.
First
1st?
Nah youre a hater. All of these runs are legit
They’re not