It's fairly obvious those Wheelock chimes on Simplex 4903 light plates are replacing older bells or chimes that were flush-mounted. The school I went to for kindergarten had 6" Simplex 4090 school bells (that sound just like that stock "Premiere Edition" school bell you always hear on TV) flush-mounted behind grilles just like that.
SAFETECH I meant on UA-cam, as there are no other techs who have 49 fire alarm inspection videos in real buildings. Another thing is that you do a good job keeping the places you visit private. There was a UA-camr named twoplyboy a few years back who had great fire alarm inspection videos, but they got privated because if privacy violation. One last thing, if you have a fire alarm collection, you should make a video on it.
I am betting that the Art Center at my friend's university has a Simplex 4007ES panel now. They used to have a Simplex 4002 system (installed next to a gutted Simplex 4208 used for terminal wiring). Some time back they removed the old Simplex 4051 horns and slapped TrueAlert horn/strobes onto the 4050-80 light plates, which suggests the 4002 panel was replaced as well.
I'd Usually See this Combo(Wheelock CH-70's and CH-90 Remote Chimes), On Either Older 2903 Plates, Or On Wheelock RSS Plates. A few Times, I've seen these Devices on 4904 plates and 4903-9101 Strobe Plates, But the more common Install(At least in my area, Are CH-70's on 2903-9101 Strobe plates That are Installed in Hospitals in my area, Most of the Systems In hospitals are Coded by Zone(Ex. Zone 1 = 1 Chime, Zone 2 = 2 Chimes), So these Installs Are Typical, But Some Places Use Voice EVAC Nowdays, Although Eaton Still makes Wheelock Remote Chimes/Speakers and The CH-70 Devices for Future and Cost-Effective Installs
Those newer panels are beginning to become more prominent in my service area. If your referring to the chimes in the old building they are Wheelock on 4903 incandescent plates. The others are TruAlerts
Time Stamps for the video. 0:00 Panel Setup 1:44 New Building 5:16 Old Building 10:49 Panel Reset 13:37 Annunciator 14:35 End If I missed anything please send a reply.
@@XxGG_the_HackerxX You think so. You can't have people pulling alarms anytime they want causing chaos. Is there like specific thing I need to be able to do this, though?
I think the original building had bells under the flush mount grill plates, then when the 4020 was installed the bells were replaced with 4903 light plates with mechanical chimes, then when the 4007es came along the mechanical chimes were replaced with Wheelock CH70 chimes.
What were the older alarms in the original building? I asked that because the simplex 4903 light plates are on old grilles were and older bell use to be ar.
I thought TrueAlert chime/strobes were longer like speakers were? Anyway the chime sounds like the start-up tone in my car. XD Did they replace the alarms in the building where they took out the 4020? Also, what the hell is with the lone 9833?
The 4903-9102/Wheelock chimes shown in this vid were in the old building. So no. Also that horn was likely there as part of the original system so as to why it was left there I’m not sure. Regardless, it gets the job done.
Gary Beltz They have for quite a while. 4906-9133 (red wall, seen in video), 4906-9144 (white wall), 4906-9135 (red ceiling), and 4906-9136 (white ceiling). They also have the 49CMTV and the 49MTV in the TrueAlert ES line (yes, those have a chime sound setting, and frankly, it sounds like shit).
It’s a great job I love it. But I must clarify I am strictly a fire systems inspector for SimplexGrinnell/Johnson Controls. When people hear “fire inspector” they often think of the guy who works works for the state who enforces code compliance. That I am not. My role strictly pertains to the facilities fire safety equipment.
Like what SAFETECH said, they've been around for a while. UA-cam user msj191961 has owned one in his collection (except it's white) and has done a test video of it.
How come there was only one 2903/9833 in The building (aside from the fact that all of the other A/Vs meet the requirements for having chimes in an institutional facility)?
I believe it was there before the chimes. Originally the facility had bells & horns. As noted by the old cover grates which the current chimes are affixed to in the original building.
Yo I saw a weird ass video many years ago with that ugly ass face (your profile pic) and can’t find it anywhere lmao I think it was titled “most annoying song” or something like that haha
Because, the purpose of the alarms are to get your attention and louder devices are much more effective at doing so. You wouldn’t be able to hear these devices if you were wearing headphones or were hard of hearing, so thats why they need to be loud.
@@CJWJR My point was that they were loud for a reason. Unfortunately, the NFPA is very specific on which devices go where so most can’t even be quiet to begin with.
Wow a simplex truealert horn strobe sounds like a chime speaker strobe very rare was that the first time you've seen a simplex truealert horn strobe sound like that?
@@mjb1124 Maybe that way saved the hassle of removing the original grille and patching up the cavity and also rerouting wires.And also can make new devices work properly.Then why not do it this cheap and effective way?
The 9838’s were there When the Bells were there still. They have since been Replaced By CH-70’s on Simplex 4903-9102 Light plates here. Looks like a More modern install, Given the CH-70’s.(Early 90’s maybe). So that may be the last 9838 in that building. It might be replaced at some point with a Wheelock Chime/Strobe or a Truealert Chime/Strobe
09:53 and 10:08 The only fire alarm that isn't a Simplex 4903-9102 light plate with a Wheelock CH70-24-RS and just a Simplex 2901-9833 mechanical Horn with 2903-9101 light plate
@@FireRescue80 push a button did I? And I don't mean cute fire alarm button. Relax dude. I wasn't s#!tting on you... it was that to demo the system there are way too many keys on the ring. Don't be so defensive. Wow Chill...
I’ve never seen a 4007 before, a touch screen panel? No way!!
@EthanBlaisAlarms yeah he knows
Wow I never realized Simplex had chime versions for most of its series
Yes, they mostly do. But I think the chimes in the old building are CH70-24-Rs.
@@ryguy2006 yes, Correct. Wheelock CH70 Remote Chimes on Simplex 4903-9102 Light Plates
Simplex chime strobes are extremely rare
I was surprised at this as well! Kinda cool actually. Was this at a hospital or a retirement facility?
@@jasontaylor657 looks like retirement or assisted living
Not gonna lie but, 3:45 sounded like cats meowing at the same time
Almost looks like those strobes are synched
because they are lol, they are SmartSync
It's fairly obvious those Wheelock chimes on Simplex 4903 light plates are replacing older bells or chimes that were flush-mounted. The school I went to for kindergarten had 6" Simplex 4090 school bells (that sound just like that stock "Premiere Edition" school bell you always hear on TV) flush-mounted behind grilles just like that.
The original system has to have been installed at least in the 70s, if not older
Very peaceful sounding TrueAlert Chime/Strobes.
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What’s with the spams ??
Better yet what beautiful sounding simplex chime strobes/lights
I never heard a TrueAlert do chimes before!
SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These are chime strobes
Same right here
It's so weird seeing comments from yourself that are from 3 years ago.
It's also weird seeing comments from yourself that are from 1 year ago and 4 years ago.
7:19 is that an old bell behind the alarm there or is it something else?
Wow. Those are some rare and awesome alarms. 🚨👍
Thanks for viewing!
+SAFETECH. that s rilly cool nice video
SAFETECH I got hired to inspect alarms in February of 2019!
There not rare
@@alexandersalarms5380 They actually are.
Nice turealert chime strobes and doing code 3
Most peaceful fire alarm sound
Wow 😲 really super quiet alarms!Those simplex truealert and wheelock chimes are not severely loud at all!
Chimes are usually pretty quiet
It’s super creepy when they all go at the same time with different pitches
Kinda weird and interesting to see the older wing with the simplex 4903 light plates on an old bell grille.
is that the best fire alarm system you heard or no?
Did the old building originally have bells?
Yes. Unfortunateley they replaced them and threw them out 😣
I find it odd how there are grates the older chime lights are mounted on. Wonder if they had some older system with bells at one point??
this happens a lot
Nice! I’ve never seen the 4007ES before!
Thanks. Now you have! 😀
Nice video especially seeing a 4007ES in the field!👌🏻
Thanks for viewing!
I loved those chimes on the light plates that I wanted them so bad and btw nice video 👍
SAFETECH, you are the best fire alarm tech on UA-cam, keep up the good work 👍🏻
Thank you for kind words but I’m sure there’s many out there who are a lot more talented than I.
SAFETECH no I agree with Conor you are the best fire alarm tech out there
SAFETECH I meant on UA-cam, as there are no other techs who have 49 fire alarm inspection videos in real buildings. Another thing is that you do a good job keeping the places you visit private. There was a UA-camr named twoplyboy a few years back who had great fire alarm inspection videos, but they got privated because if privacy violation. One last thing, if you have a fire alarm collection, you should make a video on it.
Twoplyboy used to be really good too bad he got into all that trouble with his old videos hence why they are gone.
@cutegirl6229 no.
The sound of these chimes are making me fall asleep
Until we get to the horn strobes...
@@Oof-zl6lt well there's one 9833
I didn’t think wind-downs happened with panels just transformers used by fire alarm collectors
Nice video! I’ve yet to see a 4007ES in the wild in my area.
Thanks for viewing!
I saw one in Stanford
I am betting that the Art Center at my friend's university has a Simplex 4007ES panel now. They used to have a Simplex 4002 system (installed next to a gutted Simplex 4208 used for terminal wiring). Some time back they removed the old Simplex 4051 horns and slapped TrueAlert horn/strobes onto the 4050-80 light plates, which suggests the 4002 panel was replaced as well.
UPDATE: Yes, the Art Center indeed has a Simplex 4007ES, the red cabinet version.
@@safetechI really like video, but what is this place called?
Did nobody hear at the first alarm they died like Spectralert Advances?
yes. that is vary strange.
Yes I did that was weird though
They seem to do that for the 0 tone
Nice! Interesting system!
Thanks for viewing!
Sounds like everything in the old building is conventional due to the "zone" chime, and since the channel and device are the same.
those chimes sounds like elevator beeps when press down or up
Looks like the Wheelock Chimes replaced some old bells. Also, what’s the model number for the TrueAlert chimes?
What is the model number for the alarms in the old buildings? I have never seen those do chimes.
4903-9102 light plates with Wheelock chimes
SAFETECH Thanks :)
is something wrong with the alarm at 3:30 it made a weird noise when it was stopping is it supposed to do that ?
Yes the alarm is supposed to do that when stopping. It’s the way the chime works. Why is this? I am not sure.
Why are the old chimes mounted behind those grey flush plates?
Because they replaced older flush mounted bell alarms that would ring behind those flush plates, which made up the grille for those signals
How bright is that first TrueAlert’s strobe? Looks pretty dim and it flashes pretty fast.
how loud was it? i know chimes are not that loud.
4903-9102's? those are very rare. Rarely see them in videos.
I'd Usually See this Combo(Wheelock CH-70's and CH-90 Remote Chimes), On Either Older 2903 Plates, Or On Wheelock RSS Plates. A few Times, I've seen these Devices on 4904 plates and 4903-9101 Strobe Plates, But the more common Install(At least in my area, Are CH-70's on 2903-9101 Strobe plates That are Installed in Hospitals in my area, Most of the Systems In hospitals are Coded by Zone(Ex. Zone 1 = 1 Chime, Zone 2 = 2 Chimes), So these Installs Are Typical, But Some Places Use Voice EVAC Nowdays, Although Eaton Still makes Wheelock Remote Chimes/Speakers and The CH-70 Devices for Future and Cost-Effective Installs
Wow! How many 4007ES panels have you tested in your career? and wow! That is rare to find those chimes? What are the model numbers?
Those newer panels are beginning to become more prominent in my service area. If your referring to the chimes in the old building they are Wheelock on 4903 incandescent plates. The others are TruAlerts
The true alert chime strobes are like a 4903 something and maby 4904
@@KA6ADE Devices were The Simplex Truealert Chime/Strobes, As well as Wheelock CH70 Remote Chimes on Simplex 4903-9102 Light Plates
Time Stamps for the video.
0:00 Panel Setup
1:44 New Building
5:16 Old Building
10:49 Panel Reset
13:37 Annunciator
14:35 End
If I missed anything please send a reply.
Why do people mount 2903s with the light down. I normally see them up. Is there a reason or just carelessness.
WillardCrafto they made versions with the light on both the top and bottom.
Question, are there requirements to get this job, like school degrees?
I’m guessing trade school
I believe there would be requirements for this job. Makes sense because you would have to be very mature to be able to test fire alarms.
@@XxGG_the_HackerxX You think so. You can't have people pulling alarms anytime they want causing chaos. Is there like specific thing I need to be able to do this, though?
Great video man! Is the 4010 and the 4007ES linked?
Thanks! Yes they are.
Great video 😀👍👍
Maybe the coolest chime system I’ve ever seen!
Why did the truealerts flash so quick?
Thanks for viewing. They were being coded by the 4010 and this is typical with those while in walk test.
I think the original building had bells under the flush mount grill plates, then when the 4020 was installed the bells were replaced with 4903 light plates with mechanical chimes, then when the 4007es came along the mechanical chimes were replaced with Wheelock CH70 chimes.
That sounds about right.
All in chime strobe that’s one I am happy about because there not that loud
Me, too.
Yeah the deaf people will still be sleeping through that extremely quiet alarm.
My dude, All fire alarms have strobes and lamps for a reason: so the deaf can see that there is a fire and get out safely.
It is not a horn because this is a rehabilitation facility, and old ppl have sensitive ears
cool thanks for sharing. Fire alarm. Videos
I love those trualerts the chiming and the strobes
What was there before on that silver grate? Was that a housing for an older alarm?
Yes bell housings.
What were the older alarms in the original building? I asked that because the simplex 4903 light plates are on old grilles were and older bell use to be ar.
Bells
SAFETECH Single stroke or vibrating?
What camera do you use?
I thought TrueAlert chime/strobes were longer like speakers were? Anyway the chime sounds like the start-up tone in my car. XD
Did they replace the alarms in the building where they took out the 4020?
Also, what the hell is with the lone 9833?
The 4903-9102/Wheelock chimes shown in this vid were in the old building. So no. Also that horn was likely there as part of the original system so as to why it was left there I’m not sure. Regardless, it gets the job done.
I didn't know that TrueAlert chimes could have that high of a pitch. Damn.
I wasn't even aware that Simplex made a chime version of the TrueAlert.
Gary Beltz
They have for quite a while.
4906-9133 (red wall, seen in video), 4906-9144 (white wall), 4906-9135 (red ceiling), and 4906-9136 (white ceiling).
They also have the 49CMTV and the 49MTV in the TrueAlert ES line (yes, those have a chime sound setting, and frankly, it sounds like shit).
I was also surprised when hearing this. It’s a pretty cool sound in my opinion.
SAFETECH Do all alarms run in code 3 during normal operation?
I believe so.
These, Were taken Out of walk test at the end. So the code is Pulse Chime
Nice videos! what is like as a fire inspector?
It’s a great job I love it. But I must clarify I am strictly a fire systems inspector for SimplexGrinnell/Johnson Controls. When people hear “fire inspector” they often think of the guy who works works for the state who enforces code compliance. That I am not. My role strictly pertains to the facilities fire safety equipment.
+SAFETECH oh okay! 😊 I did not know that. how did you start? do you work for a business or own a business?
3:42
Why is there a big blurry box?
Privacy reasons probably
To protect the privacy of the building and people.
Yes. It is for privacy reasons. They don’t want to tell us the name of the building. Some places are like that. Usually schools do this.
@@SimplexEAS2019 Why would a company name be private?
I’m not sure. It’s just how some buildings are.
Those smoke detectors activate the alarm very quickly so we don't have to wait until until it goes off. Great video!
i like the mix of simplex alarms
I like the mix of them
Are the TrueAlert chimes new and are those the multi-tone TrueAlert ES?
No just standard TruAlert chimes. They’ve been around for a while.
Like what SAFETECH said, they've been around for a while. UA-cam user msj191961 has owned one in his collection (except it's white) and has done a test video of it.
9:53 what are those light plates?
2903-9001 or 9101. The 9001 is an incandescent light plate, the 9101 is a strobe plate.
so what exactly is the 4007ES coding the devices to? it seems all over the place, and i couldn't tell if it was zone or point
Why are the strobes flashing so fast?
They are being coded from the 4010 in walk test.
How come there was only one 2903/9833 in The building (aside from the fact that all of the other A/Vs meet the requirements for having chimes in an institutional facility)?
I believe it was there before the chimes. Originally the facility had bells & horns. As noted by the old cover grates which the current chimes are affixed to in the original building.
SAFETECH ok that makes sense
trainerred206 2901 not 2903
BJ Harughty I know, i was shortening the model number so I didn’t have to write 2903/2901-9833. Lazy, I know, but oh well.
The model number for the wheelock chimes is CH-70.
Yo I saw a weird ass video many years ago with that ugly ass face (your profile pic) and can’t find it anywhere lmao I think it was titled “most annoying song” or something like that haha
XD
Alarms:
Simplex 2901-9833 on 2903
Wheelock CH70's on Simplex 4903-9001's
Simplex 4906-9133's (Truealert Chime/strobe)
Pull Stations:
Simplex T-Bar's
Panel coding:
Continuous
Thanks man!
Why does the flash rate on those strobes seem a bit fast?
Alarms:
Simplex 4906-9134
Simplex 4903-9102 w/ Wheelock CH-70
Simplex 2903-9001 w/ Simplex 2901-9833 (Faraday 6020)
Why you open some pull stations instead of pulling them during this inspection?
those truealerts are flashing to fast.. i mean thats not up to ADA standards but hey, gets peoples attention..
I think that’s just when the system is in walk test
Yeah it is. I’m not sure why it’s like that but it’s the way it works.
Why can't more fire alarms be this quiet!?...especially those in quieter buildings like these!
Because, the purpose of the alarms are to get your attention and louder devices are much more effective at doing so. You wouldn’t be able to hear these devices if you were wearing headphones or were hard of hearing, so thats why they need to be loud.
@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 I know that, but that's also why there are strobe lights.
@@CJWJR My point was that they were loud for a reason. Unfortunately, the NFPA is very specific on which devices go where so most can’t even be quiet to begin with.
@@CJWJR what about the blind people
they cant see the strobe
Ch70 Sound Like Mass
I actually never heard mechanical horns on chime
MADBomber 365 Horns and chimes are two different devices
Nice Video , Keep it up👍
I wonder what the main purpose of making a video of testing fire alarms once a year is?
Simplex this Simplex that SIMPLEX EVERYTHING THIS IS INSANE (cool videos tho)
Michael Marcos he works for them
Fantastic video!
Thank you!
SAFETECH np!
i feel like i have been in this building before...
Woah! Truealert chimes.
these alarms are rare you only see them in hospitals and... i think that's about it
Hospitals and Hotels you normally see these
@@XxGG_the_HackerxXI figured hotels would have mini horns regular horns or speakers sometimes strobes in the units too
2:29 sounds like it died
The two short tones represent the number 0
that is an awesome system
My school lets me do this for the fire drills
lucky! I pulled the alarm for three fire drills at my old school in '13, using three different pull stations.
Lol the chime 2:31
Yep it works like that. It’s not broken.
Awesome Fire Alarm Sound It's A Ding Sound
It’s called a chime. You would usually see these in places such as hotels, and hospitals.
@@XxGG_the_HackerxXand rehabilitation places
So cool video and I like then longer videos
Thanks for viewing!
SAFETECH you’re welcome
Wow a simplex truealert horn strobe sounds like a chime speaker strobe very rare was that the first time you've seen a simplex truealert horn strobe sound like that?
It’s a separate model that functions as a chime. I’ve dealt with my fair share of them.
SAFETECH oh really cool
Is this a hospital
Weird way to do a retrofit on existing bell enclosures lol
That's actually a pretty common method from what I've seen.
@@mjb1124 Maybe that way saved the hassle of removing the original grille and patching up the cavity and also rerouting wires.And also can make new devices work properly.Then why not do it this cheap and effective way?
Were there 9838s on the 4903 9102s before the chimes were added in
The 9838’s were there When the Bells were there still. They have since been Replaced By CH-70’s on Simplex 4903-9102 Light plates here. Looks like a More modern install, Given the CH-70’s.(Early 90’s maybe). So that may be the last 9838 in that building. It might be replaced at some point with a Wheelock Chime/Strobe or a Truealert Chime/Strobe
There were never 9838s there. This is a hospital building so its unlikely they would've ever used horns
@@officialsimplexguy how is there 9833s there
@@vintagesimplexfirealarmsof6440 its in an area that calls for public mode signaling
Where in new york city was it in or which place
That info is cofidential
In the old building the alarms sound like my elevator arrived
I wonder if the fire alarm supports midi because it sounds like a piano change the sound to a Odd sound like a crowd that would be funny
I imagine a system with speaker strobes can have one of its "alert messages" to be programmed to be any kind of sound.
09:53 and 10:08 The only fire alarm that isn't a Simplex 4903-9102 light plate with a Wheelock CH70-24-RS and just a Simplex 2901-9833 mechanical Horn with 2903-9101 light plate
British AWS ahh chime😭🙏
Mozart went silent after this dropped
3:00
My favorite!
I have that in my bedroom!!
The second panel is simplex 2001
No. It's a 4007ES. It even has it right in the video stating that.
Cool video
Thanks for viewing!
Why do the strobes flash faster?
System is in walk test.
SAFETECH oh
that key chain rattle is super annoying
Annoying is what gets your attention.
@@FireRescue80 i'm talking about the key chain NOT the alarm.
@@rilda01 if you don't like it than don't watch the video.
@@FireRescue80 push a button did I? And I don't mean cute fire alarm button. Relax dude. I wasn't s#!tting on you... it was that to demo the system there are way too many keys on the ring. Don't be so defensive. Wow Chill...
old building has a 2901 with a ch70
I like that chime
Why is there a Simplex 2903-9101 + 2903-9833 in a hospital?!
Read the description. Not a hospital. The device was left from the original system.
SAFETECH can you give me the time stamp