Contract Negotiation Rumors! True or False?
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I was hoping you'd say they'd cut pay steps to 8 years but that would also be reaching
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Bro you can’t shake your head at 30 an hour from Tennessee. You can’t comprehend the taxes of the northeast as well as the cost of living and housing market up here
Lots of rumors everywhere it seems. The retention thing sounds legit. My PM said there is a pilot program for new hires and that sounds a lot like what you described.
Who is always putting out all these rumors because Renfro never says anything and it always is the same rumor of top pay getting $44 a hour, stop with the rumors because all you guys are doing is making carriers feel good about the money part of the contract when that stuff sounds too good to be true
Just remember..for every gain...the carrier receives in the contract...we will be doing more..what that will be...who knows. It happens every contract.
I started at 15 and still love going to work with all that overtime
I like it all. Thanks for sharing. I would have really liked the Arbitration dates on that paper too haha. God bless
In a previous video you stated that Brian R. is the only person meeting with management about our contract. Is this normal?! How often is he meeting with them? For how long? The thing to remember to is this, from the end of the previous contract being negotiated and agreed to, to the start of this contract negotiations was only like a year and a half. And the contract "negotiations" right now have been going on for a year and a half. What is really changing contract to contract that it takes this long?! It makes no sense to me. Brian has got to realize just how incredibly frustrated a number of carriers are about all of this! And still he is silent. Which tells me that he doesn't want to listen to the people who is supposed to represent. If he is so set in his ways that he is unwilling to change and adapt then he really shouldn't be in the position he is in! He is probably negotiating his transfer into management.
Silence from Brian Renfroe is: unprofessional, egotistical, irresponsible, and makes him look guilty as shit.
How is it even possible to go this long without even setting arbitration dates?!!?
I don't see the OT list ever being a thing for small offices like mine. We have 4 city routes, 2 CCAs but not enough vehicles so we loan one out to another office everyday and the other CCA covers days off and Amazon Sunday. If our 4 city carriers didn't want to work past 8, we'd be stuck with no CCA or an available vehicle even if we had one if we're all there. They can't put CCAs on call everyday for the possibility of OT. They already told us getting another LLV was out of the question because it wasn't in the budget
Has anybody sold back annual ? as far as I know it was not available to Nalc
$30 is too high to start. $25ish would seem more likely. $30 would be great though, it just seems unrealistic. If they did, I think they would be much more conservative in the hiring process like the old days. Getting a job with the po would not be easy anymore.
And it shouldn't be.... too many trash ass people getting hired
Need that contract credit card going max
Lol excellent points on the dignity and respect. Ditto on the graduated work week. There's way too much sense in this letter, never met anyone in management that had a thimble's worth of sense. Looks more like letter carrier wishful thinking.
If $30 hr start pay would be amazing!!! I started at $19 an hr and still there I convert in August so 🤞
You cant find pivoters with current list, if they change as you say it will just shift pivoting to junior people! Not to mention union is having hard time monitoring one list, just imagine 3, lol!
This retention program is already in place in some states NERP program
What the hell is a long weekend
When u have rotating days off u get friday saturday and sunday its called a long weekend. The next week sucks because u work monday through Saturday
@@Rome73189 yall get days off
Renfro just gave himself a 16% increase so we can assume we will get that too?😅
He's pathetic, how can he argue he deserves over 200k a year and us carriers are out here struggling?
Wait did you just say you have Friday Saturday and Sunday off? I didn't think that was possible....
When you have a rotating day off, every 6 weeks the days line up so you get Friday and Saturday off back to back. Some offices have set days off, others having rotating days.
They don't need no retention program...... If they can't do the job they need to go.... It actually becomes a liability to the station there at....... New carriers now are weak sauce...... Some good one but more lazy bad carriers
Would you suggest someone transferring to Chattanooga? Is it a nice area to live, been thinking about re-assigning somewhere more southern from Rhode Island as custodian
What city in RI do you work in?
@@brady73087 Newport
@@brady73087 Newport/Middletown
Essentially this contract is gonna depend on the carriers standing up for themselves and striking. Or doing a sick out. Whichever will work. Cost of living is insane and a top out of $36 isn’t anywhere near enough anymore. 10-12 yrs ago that was awesome money, but not today. If it’s left up to the uppers then this contract is gonna be worthless. People get record breaking contracts that they deserve by striking. Stop letting them decide how much money you guys will get and go on strike
Anybody but Renfraud ! I hope he actually makes a killer deal because that’s the only way he would have a little chance to get re-elected . I pray Renfraud does something incredible but I’m not holding my breathe : thanks Matt
He knows that too. Probably only reason he's fighting so hard
Don't they make 10 thousands in 2 months why do they need donations 🤔🤔
Stop stop spreading these rumors around.
Stop stop spreading the lies.
Is the T Tennessee? Trump? Or both, don’t answer,,,,
Here in California we need at least 60 dollars an hr no excuses were ready to strike right away
We can't sell AL back
You can open season in November. Only 80 hours.
@@glidewell19 under 2 conditions, have 520 hours at the beginning of the leave year and used 75 hours of sick leave the previous year
75 hours or less
Why would you? That’s a terrible idea. I realize someone might need the money under dire circumstances but if you need the money get on the list for a month. You are only hurting yourself when you do that.
$30 a hour starting pay my ass! Definitely don’t believe that lol
30 isn't even a lot mcdonalds starts at 22 in some areas.
So, in the past, our office had a 10 hour list, a 12 hour list and a work assignment list. Not sure whatever happened to it, because now, it doesn't matter if you're not on ANY list, everyone is being forced off their routes unless they have a doctor's note restricting them to 8 hours a day. In an office with 40+ routes, they are pivoting 6+ routes a day, and only have 3 ODL'ers. Glad, every morning and every night, I'm not carrying mail anymore.
Sounds like my office
@noidea1962 me either! Retired from that madness, May 1---my life is a complete difference! Having to grind to the end is something I don't envy for those still gettin it! Fight for everything, protect yourselves, then run for the door when its time and don't look back 📫
That list just made it's way back to my office today
I'm a union steward and I heard $25 and.. now $30 starting pay. we need to have competitive pay again. we need to test again to get hired, stop hiring crackheads.
All rumors. Anyone couldve faked this list. We wont know until we're told.
FYI starting wage is 19.33 as a CCA no one starts as a regular
No one believes this, correct ?
I love this edgy platform they have. Protect an already protected class and dignity and respect. These guys are absolute clowns
It seems like new guys or newer guys are so excited about this new contract. On the other hand, the guys who worked for so long don't wish to see this big pay increase. 😂😂😂
Why is this? I’m just getting out of my 90 days and I’m excited.
I been working my off day for the last 10 years $$$$$£$$$
Additional dignity and respect ? No way this is a real thing.
Lolol I was like wtf
They always say that and it never happens
@371kenny it's edgy like saying I am for good things and against bad things. It's really brave of our leaders.
In my office they won't let you work over 60
How many signatures are there for the petition
When I was pregnant and was coming in to be assigned an office to work at they told me they couldn’t hire me while I’m pregnant and then I had to wait three years for another opening and I went in and they again told me that asked me if I was pregnant and I was and said they couldn’t hire me finally they hired me and after six months of I became pregnant again lol. I have four kids luckily I was already in so it was OK to be pregnant once I was hired, but I felt discriminated against twice. I had to wait years for a job to open up.
Because it would be not fair for others.For example you going to leave to have a baby while the other carriers/CCas are going to busting their asses lol
Imo the retention problem is the very low pay for CCA'S. $19& some change to work 10-12hrs a day out in the summer heat. Finishing your route and having to go help a regular who never should have been kept in the first place and makes quite a bit more. If one stays focused on the long term sure its a decent job but when its hot as hell and your kid that works fast food is making the same hourly pay its real easy to say nah im done!
Yeah us CCAs need at least $22 an hour starting I think.
@BearTrapUnhinged id say $25. In cali people in fast food are making $20 an hour! Sure there isn't benifits and pensions like ours but it's still bullshit we bust our asses every single day six days a week.
I’m just getting out my 90 days in VA, I’m contemplating quitting daily. Iv never worked a job where you work 9 days in a row Weekly and only have 1 day off to rest. My supervisor has done that to me since I started.
He's got my vote and dues if he gets $30 hr
Put in your 96 give drags to CCA ptf, and odl will make any office operate under vacate routes or call outs in a non hostile environment
I worked 6
Days a week for 4
Years straight, then gone, no OT ever, lost 20k
For the most part renfrow did talk about mostly everything on that page in the podcast on June 4th the only thing he did not talk about was the 30$ starting pay
Funny the ot for ns only and 8 durring the week was the devils deal I had with my pm durring covid when there was no one. 😂 8hrs is better on the psyche than 45min every single day
How would you know that the next group of people running gonna be solid and do the right thing for us carriers
Have you not heard the rap sessions? He said it in them and the interview on the pod cast
In Chicago, city wide carriers are being told they cannot work their off day if it falls on a Tuesday or Wednesday.
Did they give a reason why? That just seems so random
If for any reason carriers on the OTDL do not come in on their N/S day and someone NOT on the OTDL work even one unit of OT that right there is a grievance! Spread the word!
What about equitability? I know Tues is the lightest day in our city and any carrier that wants OT doesn't like Tues as an NS day because less opportunity to work your day off.
Northwest ohio, they told us the same.. then it changed to everyday needs to be approved by district. Fucking wild that people who don't carry mail and don't know what the office is like determines how the office should be run with or without ot
Was that note written on toilet paper in brown crayon?
Easing the new hires in could help retention but they would still be hit with the same “dignity and respect” that we see everyday.
I assume this has nothing to do with RCA
My dilemma is i like this job but i have been hearing shit ton of bad things about the job and also heard that management can forget to paytheir employees and i was like "ahh hell nah" i recently got offered this job that starts at 60k 3 days off consecutively and that sounds nice or do i risk making 20 bucks an hour 6-7 days a week ? And hope the new contract PROVIDES? what would you do?
Put your head down and work--set your TSP up so that it will benefit you--fight mgmt at every move cause you give an inch they take miles and miles--I say all this cause I pulled 29 yrs as a carrier and retired in May of this year! I prepared for retiring and am so glad Im out of that organization-- im set for life-- most companies unlike UPS and the USPS do not offer much of anything to retire with--work hard, treat your customers right and you will reap! Good luck📫
@@skychuter if usps doesnt have much to retire with then it would probably be smart to take the bigger bag home
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Management is saying that are lunches, breaks are be taken in the places where the sheets says for the route only. Does that mean we have to eat in the same place every day?
Pretty much
Usps is 49 dollars in 5 years not 49 now…
It's been a couple years already on that. They are well on their way.
Thank you for the updates and for the time that it takes to research all this information I truly appreciate it sir
Can I just say with out being disrespectful I think you would look super normal bald! Shave the head! Been bald since 22 myself, be proud my friend!