I think since you are doing great on this tier, but for improvement better to go more detail. For example you can separate Saint support and saint AA into different tiers. That also for RM MDB and RM AA, Magic beggeter and physic beggeter and so on SEA Eternal Love Radjakirik
Choosing the class refering to the tier list still depends on what RNG will grant to your runes. Most on the list are rune dependent. The list is very helpful to those who have big investment and wanted to use multi classes on each instance. xx_reptar_xx SEA-EL
Hi mate!, I'm wondering, have you considered making shorts of how to deal with certain mvps? The traveler notes only gives hints and too much text, hardly noob-friendly... 😢 Ideally a short per mvp, smvp, Purgatory MvP, Void MvP, or World MvP; examples: -"How to deal with Snake Gorgon" -"How to deal with Lord of Death" -"How to deal with Yggdrassil Seed" -"How to deal with Turtle General" -"How to deal with Wolf Grandma" -"How to deal with Caith sith" -"How to deal with Dragon Bone" -"How to deal with Dark Seyren" Etc.
Dragon first should have a higher rank as it can taunt nuka in museum 3F too. It also increases team hp by 20%, percent mobs to attack, increase melee res. It’s a good tank as well
I'm an old returning player. I use your tier list to choose which class I want to main then search your guides for it. I'm currently using Rathgricy and I've finished all the main quests because of it. Keep up the good work! phat4kwatro SEA
I'm making begetter my main but the items are too expensive because you need the MATK switch and I'm a priest too so I can easily get accepted in runs. I want to also do convert to finish instances quickly. SEA Apostle
Was playing this game for almost 2 weeks as nogu since i saw your prev recom but my max dps was 1m and was very lacking in most maps. Guess gonna try any of the top 2 now
NoGu is still very strong if you aren't dealing with legend instances. Do you have the two runes? I used NoGu for most of my ROM life, I only stopped when dealing with legend instances
With new meta for lb, for starters, it will be a good boost in farming. For pve, I think the phantom dancer should be buffed by devs, it's the only class that was really bad to use in pve or farming since it was released.
So for a f2per, I’m guessing Rathgricy would be best for me if I wanted an S tier class while lvling or is SH still a viable route to go to start with and then unlock Rath afterwards?
If you're new best start with archer still the easiest & cheapest to build for farming .. then farm at wasteland asap for materials to exchange lvl&job potions for later use .. u still nid lots of items & upgrade before playing rath .. most new player quit before they're able to build a decent job .. most strong f2p players been playing 4-5years not few months .. but becoz of changes in Rom till date I think you can build decent job in 2-3 years to be able to solo in some instance & mvp hunting .. U can get free job change ticket once u 4th job any job by completing brave instant for comodo or lost isle .. u can basically unlock all free job for free ..
Yes. I started as a Stellar when the game began and just farmed like crazy. Then chose a class for PvE after. For long term play you need a good farming class to give you zeny. Then when you can afford good gear, you can switch to Rathgricy by going down the crusader line first and getting divine avenger
@@dwiputrawahyukusuma7821 luckily I’ve already got DA maxed 😅 I had started with that cuz I always like playing sword and shield classes yet it seems DA isn’t great with sword and shield from what I’ve been told…
@@ONzy13 appreciate the info! At the moment I’ve got DA and GS maxed lvled but only got Saints gear on them cuz hardly any zeny and as of yesterday I got carried thru Lost Isle so I could get voucher to unlock SH and now have SH at lvl 88/168, hoping to get it maxed or near maxed today and then find a good place to farm zeny with my Saints gear unless I can afford some decent starter farming gear
As an old school RM AA user, I just don't recommend this class anymore. The work to be done and investment is just too extreme to see result. It's only for the most dedicated players and those who have a thing for playing as "Knight" in games. I always do pubs in weeklies (SEA - MP MOF VG) and I have never seen any class out-damage me in instances like PSR and and CML/LIL, the only exception is a whale Ronin. For RM to really shine, you have to invest in everything, even on your MDEF switching set, it's just not worth if you just like to finish your weeklies. Not to mention that AAU just wrecks RM in PVP now. I will still play as RM though, it became more like a hobby building an RM for me. I somehow enjoy trying to unlock everything and min-maxing stats especially enchants. :D
This new tier is even better than previous, WSA really ressurected (and burried too) some classes. Maybe I'd give Thor, Beggeter and Heinrich A tier, since I don't see an "unfair advantage" on them. The S tier for RM is also relative, since the high depo req. wodsonslk global
@WobblyWallabyGaming for Ronin is it a requirement to have a Hit of 500+ for Legend Instances ? Because when I didn’t have that 500+ I find that I am consistently Missing my Skills on Legend Runs but the Rest of the Instances are fine just Legend Runs Hope to hear your input on this TIA More subs!!
Eh the nerf Thana got really sucks especially with rath and thor around. The recent gvg was a pain in the ass because of rath stagger and thor's crazy vacuum. The 2nd phase of thana is basically suicide. Yea i still deal a lot of dmg, but holy shit those cc's are annoying as fuck. Lastly, a ton of rath in the map makes me lag a bit hahaha
Hey hey :) I'm mostly agree with your tier list, it's just I would move Apocalypse higher (he's dmg is in on pair with other top dps classes in pve) and then split that S into two, with SS classes being way more superior than others. Aside of that I would move Nidhogg (she's excellent in both pml and lil although she's rather weak in psr and wsa) and Holl (a bit lol, but he's buff is so strong that I prefer someone to bring him than even semi good geared S tier dps if we already have 2 proper dps). Classes in B tier and under... they all need some love - either in dps or support department. EU Eternal Love bulls_covfefe
May I ask what is that blue flower on your item bar? I've just returned from a 4 year hiatus and loving Heinrich right now, glad he's in S Tier :D rvlicious SEA Eternal Love
Imo some classes with rank S are significantly better than others. And maybe Tyrant should be a bit higher. Other than that I agree with your assessment :) melcia (with a dot between mel and cia) EU Eternal Love
Mostly agree with your tier list. But I'd demote Rune Master from S to A due to the reason enumerated -- I think many A, B and C classes could be S with enough depo and money. I'd think Thor as an A class too but since I haven't fiddle with it enough, I trust your rating :P
@@WobblyWallaby I was thinking of Soul Binder deleting TTL bosses heh I've seen it with my own eyes o_O woosh - insta-clear! On second thought, it's very impressive but perhaps too limited and off-meta for S tier
@@WobblyWallaby @WobblyWallaby using the sleeping method, when you get unable to use skills, just play dead right away and will help the skills to activate as well. Another thing is that only attack skills get blocked, but the healing skill and charging wind skill are still available to use, so use them and you skill do damage to Nuka.
@WobblyWallaby remember that any channeling skill will activate the Mjolnir effect and attack any near enemy. This includes the previously mentioned skills.
New player here, trying to learn the mobile RO. Is stellar hunter still a good class or should i aim for something else? I am a semi f2p player. Also if you can post a guide for tierlist of classes that are both good at pvp/gvg and decent pve it would be helpful.. thanks in advance
Stellar hunter is great if you want to farm and get expensive weapons + cards. That is my original main class. I'd say the best class for semi-F2P is Rathgricy. That class is great for PvE and PvP. The other one is doram, which is what I use for PvP. Rathgricy is the strongest F2P class, but requires some luck for the runes (need 6 second lines), but that's the class I would build towards. In the meantime, just keep farming with Stellar Hunter and maybe unlock Rathgricy by getting Divine Avenger to unlock the hero class.
RM AA player since game released 5 years ago here, IMO RM AA should have been downgraded into either A or even B due to its effort + time + investment needed You need not only +15 on all gears, phantom gears and oracle extract, but also insanely good enchance mora on every single gears, multiple expensive MVP cards, crazy good skill runes, good purple relics and last but not least are very high deposits. To make it short : invest in everything based on those, RM AA need tons of investment so you better be either very lucky or very loaded in case you have very bad unlucky hands in gambling. That's why it's so misleading to say "you need +15 Heaven" as if it will suddenly make you a powerhouse instantly. From my own experience as RM AA, +15 Heaven is just a check point to continue grinding others gears, cards, runes etc Unless you're fans of RM AA, chances are you might dissapointed that all your efforts and investments only lead to incrementally small upgrade and not up to your expectation. So I suggest to avoid RM AA completely since with same amount of efforts + time + investments, you can get much more faster visible noticeable results with other job class
@@WobblyWallaby yeah, you should. I mean I love and still playing RM AA but I also self-aware that RM AA is one of the worst job at there since it demand so much from the players who plays it but give very little in return Ask yourself, even if somehow RM AA miraculously has full +15 gears, phantom gears and oracle extract, good purple runes, cards, mora enhance and relic. Can it compete effectively with other jobs if RM AA still has low depo under 30% ??? Or vice versa that RM AA has more than 150% depo but the gears and other are somewhat mediocre From my experience playing RM AA since this game released, the answer is no
why do you use doram for WSA? its useless in 15 if you want sss, you should just use Holgrehen instead of doram. def reduction is useles because your dps already have enough and unlike pen it doesnt give any inc for ignore def.
Taekwon have new runes that you can fill your star every few sec. Then i can do universe starshard every few sec.. with my 51% depo i can outdamage ronin that have 100%++ depo in legend instance.. sadly still easy to die
@@WobblyWallaby if i can survive psr i can deal more dmg.. sadly i die a lot lol.. for wsa never try cuz will die a lot.. i hope with 50% shadow TK can have anti fatal that we need 😭
@@WobblyWallaby that certainly sounds much better. Ty!. I guess now i just have to wait for them to release a hero class for the Doram, since that's my main job xD
I think they got buffed after the re release after it couldn't be gotten anymore. Before the change the slash light it wasn't damage over time. I do read the responses and adjust the classes in future videos to try and be as accurate as possible. Hopefully it will be released again soon
Now that I have played Fenrir more, it is S tier. Really, really high DPS. But I also put vit to make it tanky. now with tyre's armor tier 5, survivability is even better
@@WobblyWallaby I am upgrading mine from 30% to 50% next week, I can't wait. The character is so fun and I really love the water archer / wolf theme. Definitelly I never played a stronger character in this game like Fenrir.
I personally don't find it strong. I have tried a few times but physical doram out DPS my magic doram in legend. I think magic begetter is better than magic doram
My heart is still with SH since this was my favorite class. I still hope that this will get a decent buff in the unforeseen future. I have Genos 7/7, Saitama 7/7, and Rathgricy 6/7 it is fun to have since this is in S Tier. I still love the DPS long-range with the capabilities of a trapper. I haven't tried Heinrich still lack with runes 2/7. Any meme build for Heinrich's poison build would be much appreciated. Since it can wield two weapons the thought of having a Dark Lord Cards would pique your interest in this build. I wonder how it would do.
Hello sir. I wasnt able to find your correct fb page. I want to send my video regarding ignore m.def bug using fire bird chiri * card. I just posted it in youtube instead. Additional 25% ignore m.def was not added visually on stats when attacking mvp or mini.ty
Im a casual player so your tier list allows me to see if the classes im using are still ok or if I should change to something more effective for a casual player. jebalsag EU
For hero classes, you need to have 6 runes with second lines to level up the core hero to level 7. The probability to get second lines is about 6%, so it is hard
I also use rathgricy for weeklies since the survivability is high, but lately i feel like invensting in my saint. It's just hard to get 1m hp and 100k heals but im managing it little by little. Rn ihave 670k hp and around 70k heals i still need some deposits to increase it even more. I hope boss wobbly wallaby make a saint convert build in the future. Kenlee03 SEA server
the key points here is deposits. If you're F2P or even light casual spender then just enjoy the growing process and don't compare yourself to both lucky gambler or whale spender Most Rath that has more than 1 million hp and tons of damage falls into either lucky or whale or even both
Overall I agree with most of your observations. I would like to say one thing about AA AM though. It's definitely not a popular class. But I do use this for 1 weekly, CML3F. I've tried TK for it, and because of the way I play, TK was too squishy on full auto. Obviously if someone isn't controlling all 6 characters this would be a different story. But I run CML3F with 2x AA AM and 2x Valk. The dmg is pretty much even between those 4 dps. ID: chan1800, Global Eternal Love
@@WobblyWallaby I would think so, because when we talk about PVE, there are different aspects like farming, mvping, instances, buff, debuff, etc. And not all jobs excell on those categories. Great farmers are useless in some instances and some of the best mvp killers suck at farming.
Think Priest is great f2p class and belongs in the S-Tier was well. Don't really need depo and easily get into parties. Can make a bonk to convert as well. Global Eternal Love JustHunting.
I drive 4 guy party with emu. Will adjust class composition after this video. The prob is… I’m too weak to even get through brave to gain free vulture😂 Evilord6880 Global
WSA,Ec and psr is really a priority. I having trouble getting in a party for WSA. It sad but their is nothing i can do. Hope these content creators will make a free run for us new and low f2p low depo players.
As people say, support is best like Saint. But also find guilds that help carry. My guild Zenith helped carry me and my wife through all sorts of instances before I could do anything. Now I can carry and I can help others. Find a nice guild that advertises carries
I fully agree with your assessment, just hoping that Thor could be on par with Ronin since it was a BCC hero. For now, Thor feels like a very expensive class to build (weapon and cards) Am glad that I made the switch from TKD to Rath when it was out. I finally am able to be valuable contributor to the team in weekly instances. SEA-EL ERyu1899
Genos for life but if not much time on screen Rath also good for auto dmg dealing ,,,umm for Ronin this class sooo op but still waiting for snap the +15 weapon LoL Id: m1njoe Sv: SEA
i just got back from the game. i am using stellar hunter sadly i had low deposits. making new hero means back to zero. maybe months from now am gonna get rathgency. sea id. TotoPernando ethernal love
Thanks god genos still make it on S tier, otherwise i dont know what to play magic type loll but wish dev resale elf, sad that I missed it ID: riod7058 Server: SEA
I'm playing valkyrie, I took another torah, it's a big problem to make the necessary runes (( I was interested in the Oracle, how it will damage you!! Thanks for the video!! ID: myaufka Server: EU
Hey Wallaby. I am so new to this game. I have a Rune knight and now I am levelling my Mecha. Can’t really say much cause I am new but I use your videos to have ultimate goal of what i should have. Thanks for teaching. My ID: 4301629174 Server: SEA
I think since you are doing great on this tier, but for improvement better to go more detail. For example you can separate Saint support and saint AA into different tiers. That also for RM MDB and RM AA, Magic beggeter and physic beggeter and so on
SEA Eternal Love
Radjakirik
Good suggestion, I can try to do build next time.
Choosing the class refering to the tier list still depends on what RNG will grant to your runes. Most on the list are rune dependent.
The list is very helpful to those who have big investment and wanted to use multi classes on each instance.
xx_reptar_xx
SEA-EL
Hi mate!, I'm wondering, have you considered making shorts of how to deal with certain mvps? The traveler notes only gives hints and too much text, hardly noob-friendly... 😢
Ideally a short per mvp, smvp, Purgatory MvP, Void MvP, or World MvP; examples:
-"How to deal with Snake Gorgon"
-"How to deal with Lord of Death"
-"How to deal with Yggdrassil Seed"
-"How to deal with Turtle General"
-"How to deal with Wolf Grandma"
-"How to deal with Caith sith"
-"How to deal with Dragon Bone"
-"How to deal with Dark Seyren"
Etc.
Thanks!!! im f2p LB with some good gachas and 10% depo now ill try begetter! and stay LB for farming
Dragon first should have a higher rank as it can taunt nuka in museum 3F too. It also increases team hp by 20%, percent mobs to attack, increase melee res. It’s a good tank as well
I'm an old returning player. I use your tier list to choose which class I want to main then search your guides for it. I'm currently using Rathgricy and I've finished all the main quests because of it. Keep up the good work!
phat4kwatro
SEA
Hey, can you send me a discord friend invite for wobblywallaby. I will add you so I can DM your code. Thanks
@@WobblyWallaby I got the new costume from your ticket! wow! double lucky! thanks!
I'm making begetter my main but the items are too expensive because you need the MATK switch and I'm a priest too so I can easily get accepted in runs. I want to also do convert to finish instances quickly.
SEA
Apostle
Was playing this game for almost 2 weeks as nogu since i saw your prev recom but my max dps was 1m and was very lacking in most maps. Guess gonna try any of the top 2 now
NoGu is still very strong if you aren't dealing with legend instances. Do you have the two runes? I used NoGu for most of my ROM life, I only stopped when dealing with legend instances
@WobblyWallaby ya I have most of the stuffs you recom in the prev vid. Except for +15. Cause after 12 I cant do safe refine.
I’m surprised begetter got ranked as S. Nice to see it getting some love.
Bro im just 15% depo can solo nilfheim 😂
With new meta for lb, for starters, it will be a good boost in farming.
For pve, I think the phantom dancer should be buffed by devs, it's the only class that was really bad to use in pve or farming since it was released.
cause it ment to be an a PVP job
@@Foxy994Anime yep. But on the original RO, it was a versatile job capable of farming (bow) and mvp hunt (dagger/backstab).
So for a f2per, I’m guessing Rathgricy would be best for me if I wanted an S tier class while lvling or is SH still a viable route to go to start with and then unlock Rath afterwards?
U need to unlock DA before rath
If you're new best start with archer still the easiest & cheapest to build for farming .. then farm at wasteland asap for materials to exchange lvl&job potions for later use .. u still nid lots of items & upgrade before playing rath .. most new player quit before they're able to build a decent job .. most strong f2p players been playing 4-5years not few months .. but becoz of changes in Rom till date I think you can build decent job in 2-3 years to be able to solo in some instance & mvp hunting ..
U can get free job change ticket once u 4th job any job by completing brave instant for comodo or lost isle .. u can basically unlock all free job for free ..
Yes. I started as a Stellar when the game began and just farmed like crazy. Then chose a class for PvE after. For long term play you need a good farming class to give you zeny. Then when you can afford good gear, you can switch to Rathgricy by going down the crusader line first and getting divine avenger
@@dwiputrawahyukusuma7821 luckily I’ve already got DA maxed 😅 I had started with that cuz I always like playing sword and shield classes yet it seems DA isn’t great with sword and shield from what I’ve been told…
@@ONzy13 appreciate the info! At the moment I’ve got DA and GS maxed lvled but only got Saints gear on them cuz hardly any zeny and as of yesterday I got carried thru Lost Isle so I could get voucher to unlock SH and now have SH at lvl 88/168, hoping to get it maxed or near maxed today and then find a good place to farm zeny with my Saints gear unless I can afford some decent starter farming gear
I am curious about how Fenrir will fair on this tier list. And how it compares with other classes in Tier A or Tier S.
As an old school RM AA user, I just don't recommend this class anymore. The work to be done and investment is just too extreme to see result. It's only for the most dedicated players and those who have a thing for playing as "Knight" in games. I always do pubs in weeklies (SEA - MP MOF VG) and I have never seen any class out-damage me in instances like PSR and and CML/LIL, the only exception is a whale Ronin. For RM to really shine, you have to invest in everything, even on your MDEF switching set, it's just not worth if you just like to finish your weeklies. Not to mention that AAU just wrecks RM in PVP now.
I will still play as RM though, it became more like a hobby building an RM for me. I somehow enjoy trying to unlock everything and min-maxing stats especially enchants. :D
That is great to hear. I wasn't sure if RMs could compete with Ronin and I am glad RMs will still win since it takes so much work.
This new tier is even better than previous, WSA really ressurected (and burried too) some classes.
Maybe I'd give Thor, Beggeter and Heinrich A tier, since I don't see an "unfair advantage" on them. The S tier for RM is also relative, since the high depo req.
wodsonslk
global
@WobblyWallabyGaming for Ronin is it a requirement to have a Hit of 500+ for Legend Instances ? Because when I didn’t have that 500+ I find that I am consistently Missing my Skills on Legend Runs but the Rest of the Instances are fine just Legend Runs Hope to hear your input on this TIA More subs!!
Yes. I add dex to have 500 hit. Otherwise you will miss
New here, Does Begetter and Ronin have a Hero class yet?
Begetter is Hela, but I'm not sure if she's actually better/an upgrade or not
Eh the nerf Thana got really sucks especially with rath and thor around. The recent gvg was a pain in the ass because of rath stagger and thor's crazy vacuum. The 2nd phase of thana is basically suicide. Yea i still deal a lot of dmg, but holy shit those cc's are annoying as fuck. Lastly, a ton of rath in the map makes me lag a bit hahaha
Hey hey :)
I'm mostly agree with your tier list, it's just I would move Apocalypse higher (he's dmg is in on pair with other top dps classes in pve) and then split that S into two, with SS classes being way more superior than others. Aside of that I would move Nidhogg (she's excellent in both pml and lil although she's rather weak in psr and wsa) and Holl (a bit lol, but he's buff is so strong that I prefer someone to bring him than even semi good geared S tier dps if we already have 2 proper dps). Classes in B tier and under... they all need some love - either in dps or support department.
EU Eternal Love
bulls_covfefe
May I ask what is that blue flower on your item bar? I've just returned from a 4 year hiatus and loving Heinrich right now, glad he's in S Tier :D
rvlicious
SEA Eternal Love
The blue flowers recover HP and SP to full. You get them from events and some paid stuff. Alternatively you can use Yggdrasil berries or honey.
Can you send wobblywallaby a friend request or DM on discord? I can send your code there. Thanks
@@WobblyWallaby sent u a dm
Imo some classes with rank S are significantly better than others. And maybe Tyrant should be a bit higher. Other than that I agree with your assessment :)
melcia (with a dot between mel and cia)
EU Eternal Love
Mostly agree with your tier list. But I'd demote Rune Master from S to A due to the reason enumerated -- I think many A, B and C classes could be S with enough depo and money. I'd think Thor as an A class too but since I haven't fiddle with it enough, I trust your rating :P
Yes, with enough depo, some classes can act like S tier. Which C class did you think could be S tier? Just curious :)
@@WobblyWallaby I was thinking of Soul Binder deleting TTL bosses heh I've seen it with my own eyes o_O woosh - insta-clear!
On second thought, it's very impressive but perhaps too limited and off-meta for S tier
I'm main Thor, and I can solo Museum Legend 3rd floor! I approve this PVE tear list 😂
How do you clear nukka? That is crazy that you can clear floor 3 too
@@WobblyWallaby @WobblyWallaby using the sleeping method, when you get unable to use skills, just play dead right away and will help the skills to activate as well. Another thing is that only attack skills get blocked, but the healing skill and charging wind skill are still available to use, so use them and you skill do damage to Nuka.
Neat trick, I didn't know about playdead. I also didn't know nukka would die to his stuff
@WobblyWallaby remember that any channeling skill will activate the Mjolnir effect and attack any near enemy. This includes the previously mentioned skills.
New player here, trying to learn the mobile RO. Is stellar hunter still a good class or should i aim for something else? I am a semi f2p player.
Also if you can post a guide for tierlist of classes that are both good at pvp/gvg and decent pve it would be helpful.. thanks in advance
Stellar hunter is great if you want to farm and get expensive weapons + cards. That is my original main class. I'd say the best class for semi-F2P is Rathgricy. That class is great for PvE and PvP. The other one is doram, which is what I use for PvP. Rathgricy is the strongest F2P class, but requires some luck for the runes (need 6 second lines), but that's the class I would build towards. In the meantime, just keep farming with Stellar Hunter and maybe unlock Rathgricy by getting Divine Avenger to unlock the hero class.
@@WobblyWallaby Oh since stellar hunter would be my first class. Do I use a job switch ticket to rathgricy?
Thanks for your response.
nogu class here... what do you recommended changing class? im a returning player and saw thor but it was a limited edition class...
When Beggeter became meta pve dps? i quit 2 yrs ago lol , At that moment beggetter is tier D pve interms of instances but in farming different story
RM AA player since game released 5 years ago here, IMO RM AA should have been downgraded into either A or even B due to its effort + time + investment needed
You need not only +15 on all gears, phantom gears and oracle extract, but also insanely good enchance mora on every single gears, multiple expensive MVP cards, crazy good skill runes, good purple relics and last but not least are very high deposits. To make it short : invest in everything
based on those, RM AA need tons of investment so you better be either very lucky or very loaded in case you have very bad unlucky hands in gambling. That's why it's so misleading to say "you need +15 Heaven" as if it will suddenly make you a powerhouse instantly. From my own experience as RM AA, +15 Heaven is just a check point to continue grinding others gears, cards, runes etc
Unless you're fans of RM AA, chances are you might dissapointed that all your efforts and investments only lead to incrementally small upgrade and not up to your expectation. So I suggest to avoid RM AA completely since with same amount of efforts + time + investments, you can get much more faster visible noticeable results with other job class
True, I had a few people say something similar. I will downgrade next time
@@WobblyWallaby yeah, you should. I mean I love and still playing RM AA but I also self-aware that RM AA is one of the worst job at there since it demand so much from the players who plays it but give very little in return
Ask yourself, even if somehow RM AA miraculously has full +15 gears, phantom gears and oracle extract, good purple runes, cards, mora enhance and relic. Can it compete effectively with other jobs if RM AA still has low depo under 30% ??? Or vice versa that RM AA has more than 150% depo but the gears and other are somewhat mediocre
From my experience playing RM AA since this game released, the answer is no
new player still can play this game? on new server?
Buy account, it's cheaper than starting new account. Select Eternal Love server
why do you use doram for WSA? its useless in 15 if you want sss, you should just use Holgrehen instead of doram. def reduction is useles because your dps already have enough and unlike pen it doesnt give any inc for ignore def.
Taekwon have new runes that you can fill your star every few sec. Then i can do universe starshard every few sec.. with my 51% depo i can outdamage ronin that have 100%++ depo in legend instance.. sadly still easy to die
Good to know you can put damage ronins, I probably need to play TK again some more. Do you use TK in WSA or PSR?
@@WobblyWallaby if i can survive psr i can deal more dmg.. sadly i die a lot lol.. for wsa never try cuz will die a lot.. i hope with 50% shadow TK can have anti fatal that we need 😭
Will you be doing a Zeny farming tier list?
why are Devs still call this Ragnarok?
when the main Playable Character is from one punch man?
That was the one punch man anime collab :)
Hello. I have a question, I play a private sever and this path dont have Rune so what the best class for pve ? Thanks
Whats the point of releasing cool looking cosmetics monthly if the best tier classes are the ones that completely overhaul your character appearance?
You can override the appearance. You don't have to use the heroes' looks. If you choose a costume it will override it and you can see all the gachas
@@WobblyWallaby that certainly sounds much better. Ty!. I guess now i just have to wait for them to release a hero class for the Doram, since that's my main job xD
Hi, what server do you play? I am thinking to return to the game, but my server is empty
I play on eternal love on Global. Where are you?
I didnt get the ronin... because it didnt make on Stier on your previous video😭
I think they got buffed after the re release after it couldn't be gotten anymore. Before the change the slash light it wasn't damage over time. I do read the responses and adjust the classes in future videos to try and be as accurate as possible. Hopefully it will be released again soon
So there is good job with magic damage beside genos??
I personally don't think there is. Maybe magic begetter is second best. Ancient artifact user could be third.
@@WobblyWallaby thankss
Do you have guide build for magic begetter?
Where the Fenrir would place in this tier list??
Now that I have played Fenrir more, it is S tier. Really, really high DPS. But I also put vit to make it tanky. now with tyre's armor tier 5, survivability is even better
@@WobblyWallaby I am upgrading mine from 30% to 50% next week, I can't wait. The character is so fun and I really love the water archer / wolf theme. Definitelly I never played a stronger character in this game like Fenrir.
How about magic doram? Is it still good?
I personally don't find it strong. I have tried a few times but physical doram out DPS my magic doram in legend. I think magic begetter is better than magic doram
My heart is still with SH since this was my favorite class. I still hope that this will get a decent buff in the unforeseen future.
I have Genos 7/7, Saitama 7/7, and Rathgricy 6/7 it is fun to have since this is in S Tier. I still love the DPS long-range with the capabilities of a trapper. I haven't tried Heinrich still lack with runes 2/7. Any meme build for Heinrich's poison build would be much appreciated. Since it can wield two weapons the thought of having a Dark Lord Cards would pique your interest in this build. I wonder how it would do.
Hmm Begetter on S class i wanna try that do you have any build guideM
I have a physical begetter build, just search on my channel. I will try and make a magic guide soon. That one is more complicated.
@@WobblyWallaby yey thanks
Hello sir.
I wasnt able to find your correct fb page.
I want to send my video regarding ignore m.def bug using fire bird chiri * card. I just posted it in youtube instead.
Additional 25% ignore m.def was not added visually on stats when attacking mvp or mini.ty
My facebook is facebook.com/WobblyWallabyGaming
Im a casual player so your tier list allows me to see if the classes im using are still ok or if I should change to something more effective for a casual player.
jebalsag
EU
Can you send me a friend request or DM to wobblywallaby on discord? I can send your code there.
@@WobblyWallaby Done.
Thank you for the video !
Credit card is the best PvE and pvp character
What is 77 core heroes?
For hero classes, you need to have 6 runes with second lines to level up the core hero to level 7. The probability to get second lines is about 6%, so it is hard
I also use rathgricy for weeklies since the survivability is high, but lately i feel like invensting in my saint. It's just hard to get 1m hp and 100k heals but im managing it little by little. Rn ihave 670k hp and around 70k heals i still need some deposits to increase it even more.
I hope boss wobbly wallaby make a saint convert build in the future.
Kenlee03
SEA server
The saint convert build is coming soon. I am working with Namputcha for that and he has an excellent build
the key points here is deposits. If you're F2P or even light casual spender then just enjoy the growing process and don't compare yourself to both lucky gambler or whale spender
Most Rath that has more than 1 million hp and tons of damage falls into either lucky or whale or even both
Niceeee your videos are getting a lot more detailed and i love it :D
Keep up the good work!! btw congrats on the 10k
Global Eternal Love
iatoba
How is the Gunslinger class
Bad, pistols aren't that strong for PvE.
Overall I agree with most of your observations. I would like to say one thing about AA AM though. It's definitely not a popular class. But I do use this for 1 weekly, CML3F. I've tried TK for it, and because of the way I play, TK was too squishy on full auto. Obviously if someone isn't controlling all 6 characters this would be a different story. But I run CML3F with 2x AA AM and 2x Valk. The dmg is pretty much even between those 4 dps.
ID: chan1800, Global Eternal Love
That is good to know your floor 3 comp and the results. That must be hard to control the entire chan army. Floor 3 sounds hectic.
I’d still go for rathgricy all the way. But thor is getting my attention lately😂
Rich Chigga #7791
SEA Server
I'm a new-ish player. Still leveling Rune Knight. To me, a class that can do melee and Fire damage is top tier! XD
NA Eternal Love
Fiery25123
How about pvp?
Hello im new u can make a guide of Saint pls
Your tier list is accurate as far as how players try to complete WSA and PSR here in sea server. Great vid as always.
Sea server
cas0721_
Rath needs a nerf for pvp its absurd
was using Rath & Saint clearing weekly.. Now trying other class to do so. was bored keep throwing feathers lol
SEA | ID : prismkai
Can you send me a DM or friend request on discord? (add wobblywallaby). I can DM your code there, thanks.
I think that your list is ok, but your definition for the tiers is a bit lose or not well defined. But great job.
Global - Eternal Love
Nachitue#8362
Next time I can put in survivability, buff, debuff, and more to each tier to make the criteria more clear
@@WobblyWallaby I would think so, because when we talk about PVE, there are different aspects like farming, mvping, instances, buff, debuff, etc. And not all jobs excell on those categories. Great farmers are useless in some instances and some of the best mvp killers suck at farming.
Think Priest is great f2p class and belongs in the S-Tier was well. Don't really need depo and easily get into parties. Can make a bonk to convert as well.
Global Eternal Love
JustHunting.
Nice video.
wizard and slayer same rank lol
I drive 4 guy party with emu. Will adjust class composition after this video. The prob is… I’m too weak to even get through brave to gain free vulture😂
Evilord6880
Global
WSA,Ec and psr is really a priority. I having trouble getting in a party for WSA. It sad but their is nothing i can do. Hope these content creators will make a free run for us new and low f2p low depo players.
Find guild who make free carry, build ur support job as good as U can, no free carry for wsa
Make a FS and you'll get in any instances you need lol
As people say, support is best like Saint. But also find guilds that help carry. My guild Zenith helped carry me and my wife through all sorts of instances before I could do anything. Now I can carry and I can help others. Find a nice guild that advertises carries
Love the content, I use your videos to determine what class i want to play. I ended up playing apocalypse :)
dnewgee - global
Kijay1498 SEA
not a good list
I fully agree with your assessment, just hoping that Thor could be on par with Ronin since it was a BCC hero.
For now, Thor feels like a very expensive class to build (weapon and cards)
Am glad that I made the switch from TKD to Rath when it was out. I finally am able to be valuable contributor to the team in weekly instances.
SEA-EL
ERyu1899
Genos for life but if not much time on screen Rath also good for auto dmg dealing ,,,umm for Ronin this class sooo op but still waiting for snap the +15 weapon LoL
Id: m1njoe
Sv: SEA
I use the +10 ronin weapon and it is still ultra busted
i just got back from the game. i am using stellar hunter sadly i had low deposits. making new hero means back to zero. maybe months from now am gonna get rathgency.
sea
id. TotoPernando
ethernal love
Dont bruh, wait for fenrir.. already released in beta server.. AA bow user hero class.. it will fit for you
Can you send me a discord message or friend request to wobblywallaby? I can DM your code, thx.
Thanks god genos still make it on S tier, otherwise i dont know what to play magic type loll but wish dev resale elf, sad that I missed it
ID: riod7058
Server: SEA
bigboy buffed ronin is too good atm for PVE.
yami_0714
SEA
I'm playing valkyrie, I took another torah, it's a big problem to make the necessary runes (( I was interested in the Oracle, how it will damage you!!
Thanks for the video!!
ID: myaufka
Server: EU
Can you send me a friend request or DM to wobblywallaby on discord? I can send your code there, thank you
@@WobblyWallaby I found two people with this nickname, I sent a friendship request to both of them)) >.
@@WobblyWallaby Even three😂😂
Genos, Rath for all weeklies. Ronin for Airship. Ronin is too OP in the current meta.
Id : .greatgatsby
Hey Wallaby. I am so new to this game. I have a Rune knight and now I am levelling my Mecha. Can’t really say much cause I am new but I use your videos to have ultimate goal of what i should have. Thanks for teaching.
My ID: 4301629174
Server: SEA