Gwyn, Artorias, Manus, and Kalameet already fought Ornstein and Smough in their own videos. That's why I skipped them here. Gwyndolin will be in a separate video, and Priscilla won't be in any AI battles - I'll upload a video that explains why.
Would be cool to see O&S battle all bosses in their areas. Wonder how would they manage when for example Nito spawns skeletons all time, or 4kings spawning and such :)
@@mitsuri3096 I disagree on multiple accounts. One: it would make his boss fight less interesting. Two: with 2 versions of the game, it would create a massive discrepancy. The original DS1 has reached a sort of status such that it won't be updated again by FromSoftware under any condition. Three: FromSoftware has never changed entire boss fights just for preference. They may rebalance stats, at most, but never outright change a boss's mechanics. Four: FromSoftware hasn't updated any of the Dark Souls games in years, excluding patches for serious bugs or glitches.
@@khajiitimanus7432 3 of your four points just don't make sense. He never said he wanted to have two different versions of the boss, he only said he wanted the boss to be like this. You wrote all that but couldn't understand his comment...
this shows why Ornstein and Smough set the last line of defense of anor londo itself. The fact that they are two is not a difficulty, but the fact that they work as a team.
I saw a video that says the main character in soulsborne games tend to be around 5'1" I think? It's to take up less screen space so you can better see what's going on.
@Miguel yeah no. Anor Londo is designed after Milan's cathedral, and the only reason the characters talk English is that English is the universal language, and not all games are always dubbed in every language. In fact in Japan it's dubbed in Japanese, not in english. It's fairly common tbh. Also, Anor Londo doesn't come from London, it's Sindarin, one of the languages spoke by the elves in The Lord of the Rings.
@@jim-wr3lp idk about ds2 and 3, but ds1 does have the Japanese dub. Anyway he said something like Lordran and Anor Londo are based on old England and that's why all the characters speak English. He also said that Londo comes from London, which is totally wrong.
@@simonepriolo Wait you're serious? I'm a Silmarillion fan and I, had no idea that Anor Londo is in Sindarin. It feels like recently I keep finding references to it in unexpected places (Sindarin is not restricted to The Silmarillion obvs, but Silmarillion is much more of a "compendium" of sorts so it feels like Tolkien's constructed languages are closer to it and to his non-Hobbit/LotR works). I do have a question. "Anor" means "sun" in Sindarin, but I can't find a meaning for "Londo". Could it just be "lord"? Or is it the "lond - haven, harbour, pass, strait"?
To be fair, I imagine any arena with hazards would be difficult. I don't think either Snorlax or Pikachu are programmed to not leap off cliffs, for example.
yeah , but the battle wouldn't be as enjoyable , like if they fight bed of chaos in the arena with the holes and the branch that constantly pushes you off
This somehow simultaneously makes the world of Dark Souls more terrifying but also makes you the players feel more bad ass at the same time. The world of Dark Souls is full of monsters but despite all odds you succeed where the monsters failed.
Genuinely surprised Asylum Demon lasted long enough to attack at all - I would have assumed Ornstein's opening thrust he always does would immediately oneshot it
The sanctuary guardian fight was so fun to watch even though it didn’t do that well. Like some monster just invaded anor londo and they’re fighting it off
Every video ive seen of Bosses vs Bosses have been so cool i need too watch all of them like a Anime series, keep up the good work Sir. You got a New Subscriber Comrade .
Cool vid; I love watching these!! It was awesome to see big O come out to play during the Iron Golem fight. And then one lightning bolt from our boy the dragonslayer and it’s all over! Sadly, he doesn’t seem to live up to his name against the Scaleless monstrosity. …. And I just also have to say, I’d almost forgotten Seath’s goofy, mischievous, “Bugs Bunny ruining someone’s life” theme music
Smough couldn’t help but laugh at how pathetic the bed is when it can’t spleef you. Pretty cool to see our favorite Buddy Cop duo actually squaring off against evil unleashed for once! And that duel between ornstein and the golem?!! Straight outta the OG God of War games, that was.
I thought of something when seeing Seath fight them. Why hasn't Priscilla made an appearance? Then I thought to myself... "Maybe she won't work, since she isn't hostile the moment you encounter her, so she isn't considered a valid target, or something." The bosses would probably just stand there, and nothing would happen.
Bit disappointed in Ornstein for the Seath performance, but then again Seath would probably have enough lucidity left to know that someone whose moniker is "Dragon Slayer" should be taken care of before Mr. Creosote. Also I wonder if any AI in the game is advanced enough to be able to win the Bed of Chaos fight. Doubt it, but maybe?
I'd say no, mainly because in ds3 even the late game bosses struggle with deacons of the deep(because they aren't programmed to target the glowing deacon)
@@tylervanpeursem7627 The only DS3 boss that didn’t struggle was Yhorm, and that was only because his weapon was long enough to hit the Archdeacon inside of Aldrich’s tomb
say what you will about Seath and Pinwheel as Boss fights, they sure got my favorite Songs from the Album it´s really hilarious how Smough just auto cancels every attack coming form the left
I really would want to do that, to show people that Pinwheel isn't as weak as they think, but unfortunately Asylum Demon only works in Asylum, and Pinwheel's clones and teleportation only work in his arena.
Iron golem fight was amazing the balance thing kinda makes it fair since its a mechanic meant to be exploited by the player, two bosses would make him go into this state more often and win easily, the bug of chaos fight was hilarious i wonder how many of them would kill O&S but if too many used the pyromancy at the same time then your pc would melt instead lol what about ceaseless discharge? can it be moved from it's arena? although i am not sure if there's too many places to spawn him due to his size and because *tentacles* . for moonlight butterfly i just remember there were some butterflies on seath level, i wonder if those dont cause the lag issue you've mentioned before
Ceaseless Discharge can be moved, but he can't attack enemies at ground level. Moonlight Butterflies in Crystal Caves are the same as the boss, just with different stats and AI.
Seath's claw attacks seemed to not be aimed properly the entire fight, but theirs did to, so it's as fair as it gets for fights where one party is completely immune to the other party's main offensive ability. It's weird that the Stray Demon and Demon Firesage always use their weak magic attack instead of their much stronger and more varied melee attacks. Not really fair to put Centipede Demon against them away from its arena. Four Kings could probably beat Ornstein and Smough, if there were actually four instead of one. I've always found it really weird that Seath and Nito are so much weaker in boss vs boss fights, especially Nito, since the bosses aren't straight up immune to his primary method of killing.
I think their AI just attacks were the other model begins and since Seaths head leans over them they might think it´s right in front of them, not being able to tell the height difference
@@Pantagana True, but perhaps you can just pause their AI and spawn in the appropriate version? Something to consider, anyhow, but it does sound like it could be a bit difficult to somehow deaggro the arena while maintaining health statuses...
Artorias, Manus, Gwyn, the REAL Four Kings, would have all given these guys a fair shake. Real shame to see they didn't make the cut, I'm honestly bummed.
Artorias, Manus, and Gwyn all had their own vs all bosses vids. They all lost to O&S, though credits to Manus and Gwyn they could win under the right circumstances. The only one to beat O&S and fairly comfortably at that was Kalameet.
@@AR-bj5et Again another contender that failed to make the cut. My thing is sure we already saw the match but who cares. How many times did we see Gael vs. Yhorm by both Pantagana and Bonfire VN, and all the other modder channels? Probably about a dozen to maybe even as high as 30 Gael vs. Yhorm matches between all the channels and videos. Does that make any one of them less interesting or less viewable? In my opinion no. These are in fact actually some of the most well-performing videos from all the channels. I also constantly requested Midir vs. Gael in Gael's arena back in the DS3 days, which I'm 1,000% sure would have brought in Millions if not at least a half million views, but no one wants to do it. Why? Again that is what baffles me, more fights in the videos = more watch time = more views = more content revenue... I guess some people(maybe even the modders themselves) really would just prefer to NOT see certain fights.
Ngl thinking of an alternative timeline where Orstein and Smough where both chosen undeads would make a very lore inacurate but very cool story to tell
@@wujekmarian3414 That makes sense, though it would be helpful just to add them in here for completion. And still Butterfly and Prescilla still missing. But thanks for clearing that up :)
Gwyn, Artorias, Manus, and Kalameet already fought Ornstein and Smough in their own videos. That's why I skipped them here. Gwyndolin will be in a separate video, and Priscilla won't be in any AI battles - I'll upload a video that explains why.
Would be cool to see O&S battle all bosses in their areas. Wonder how would they manage when for example Nito spawns skeletons all time, or 4kings spawning and such :)
@@Damzyboi The reason I did it in Ornstein's and Smough's arena is so that their phase 2 transition would work.
@@Pantagana ahhh ok, makes sense :D
Is it because Priscilla is an actual pushover that even Pinwheel can be considered harder than?
@@JckThRppr No its because Priscilla is hardest boss
Iron Golem put in faaarrrrr more work than I would have imagined.
It's the Iron Giant reincarnated in Dark Souls. What'd you expect? Hehe
The reason he did this good is because he wasn't scripted to lose balance when damaged here (because I don't know how to script that).
That's how he should be in base game
@@mitsuri3096 I disagree on multiple accounts.
One: it would make his boss fight less interesting.
Two: with 2 versions of the game, it would create a massive discrepancy. The original DS1 has reached a sort of status such that it won't be updated again by FromSoftware under any condition.
Three: FromSoftware has never changed entire boss fights just for preference. They may rebalance stats, at most, but never outright change a boss's mechanics.
Four: FromSoftware hasn't updated any of the Dark Souls games in years, excluding patches for serious bugs or glitches.
@@khajiitimanus7432 3 of your four points just don't make sense. He never said he wanted to have two different versions of the boss, he only said he wanted the boss to be like this. You wrote all that but couldn't understand his comment...
11:00 That fight was INSANE. It was neck-and-neck there for a minute.
which one pinwheel or bed of chaos
@@jerylazman8247 both were super close...
And Smough laughed as he walked away lol
Holy shit that was a crazy battle
this shows why Ornstein and Smough set the last line of defense of anor londo itself. The fact that they are two is not a difficulty, but the fact that they work as a team.
And the fact that if one dies the other gets boosted and back to full hp
@@davidgutierrezestrada2157 full hp? They got their hp doubled 😂
Ornstein- One shots Bed of Chaos
Smough- hehe
Loved how Capra Demon and Ornstein were just circling and testing each other and then Smough came in like a battering ram :D
Teamwork at its finest
"I distract him with an edge walking competition, and you strike"
Smough at 11:10 laughing about how weak the bug was.
Well it is labelled as one of the Four Lords, when it’s a puny insect
If only they fought bed of chaos in its own arena
@@arnabkumardas8358 Like fr why tf would bed of chaos go to Anor Londo, and how would it get there tho ?
@@spiritif she got taken by capra demon who wanted to see the amazing chest but was told to bring a parent (bed of chaos is his mom)
@@things-z8o Relatable (didn't know i was Capra Demon)
I never realized before how tall Ornstein is. Dude's like a solid 10ft but Smough makes him look smaller than he really is
I saw a video that says the main character in soulsborne games tend to be around 5'1" I think? It's to take up less screen space so you can better see what's going on.
@@rustyjones7908 Interesting
@Miguel yeah no. Anor Londo is designed after Milan's cathedral, and the only reason the characters talk English is that English is the universal language, and not all games are always dubbed in every language. In fact in Japan it's dubbed in Japanese, not in english. It's fairly common tbh.
Also, Anor Londo doesn't come from London, it's Sindarin, one of the languages spoke by the elves in The Lord of the Rings.
@@jim-wr3lp idk about ds2 and 3, but ds1 does have the Japanese dub. Anyway he said something like Lordran and Anor Londo are based on old England and that's why all the characters speak English. He also said that Londo comes from London, which is totally wrong.
@@simonepriolo Wait you're serious? I'm a Silmarillion fan and I, had no idea that Anor Londo is in Sindarin. It feels like recently I keep finding references to it in unexpected places (Sindarin is not restricted to The Silmarillion obvs, but Silmarillion is much more of a "compendium" of sorts so it feels like Tolkien's constructed languages are closer to it and to his non-Hobbit/LotR works). I do have a question. "Anor" means "sun" in Sindarin, but I can't find a meaning for "Londo". Could it just be "lord"? Or is it the "lond - haven, harbour, pass, strait"?
You literally just disarmed the Centipede demon and took away his best advantage- *the lava.*
Yes. Unfortunately, it was either this, or Ornstein's and Smough's phase 2 transition not working.
To be fair, I imagine any arena with hazards would be difficult. I don't think either Snorlax or Pikachu are programmed to not leap off cliffs, for example.
Same for Gravelord without his immortal skele pals.
Bed of Chaos: "Am I a joke to you?"
@@waelmagdy7757yes
The fact that you included bed of chaos made me smile. Fuck that boss
The iron golem finally getting some respect
The fight with Nito is also summoned skeletons and then we are dealing with a completely different fight.
yeah , but the battle wouldn't be as enjoyable , like if they fight bed of chaos in the arena with the holes and the branch that constantly pushes you off
This somehow simultaneously makes the world of Dark Souls more terrifying but also makes you the players feel more bad ass at the same time. The world of Dark Souls is full of monsters but despite all odds you succeed where the monsters failed.
Dungeon Guardian: *starts spitting lightning*
Ornstein: Oh, that's cute. *starts throwing his own*
Genuinely surprised Asylum Demon lasted long enough to attack at all - I would have assumed Ornstein's opening thrust he always does would immediately oneshot it
I love how Ornstein said "F this pot in particular" after defeating Asylum Demon 1
The bed of chaos was the hardest one for them
If they had to do the real BoC fight, they'd get annihilated.
@@satekeeperyeah but it would be from the cheap and unfair parts of the battle. (The floor falling apart)
@@diablorojosincero4040 that's basically the only fight there is
06:49 oh noo, how did they know Lightning was a dragons weakness.
Oh, because I told them.
Nito: “I’m a God, you dull creature”
Smough: (beats the shit out of Nito) “Puny God”
pues pusieron a un mago a boxear xd,le faltaron sus esqueletos
honestly i was hoping for that Super Ornstein vs Iron Golem fight, a real clash of the titans there.
weird how they made it about projectiles though.
At 12:47 Smough's hammer hit synced perfectly with the music
12:46
@@griddmeirax 12:45
The sanctuary guardian fight was so fun to watch even though it didn’t do that well. Like some monster just invaded anor londo and they’re fighting it off
11:10 Smough laughed after Bed of Chaos died. Oh the irony
5:50 ornstein, you had one job dude
"Ornstein and Smough vc Bosses" what comes to my mind: "joly cooporation"
Every video ive seen of Bosses vs Bosses have been so cool i need too watch all of them like a Anime series, keep up the good work Sir. You got a New Subscriber Comrade .
Cool vid; I love watching these!! It was awesome to see big O come out to play during the Iron Golem fight. And then one lightning bolt from our boy the dragonslayer and it’s all over! Sadly, he doesn’t seem to live up to his name against the Scaleless monstrosity. …. And I just also have to say, I’d almost forgotten Seath’s goofy, mischievous, “Bugs Bunny ruining someone’s life” theme music
Anyone notice smough laughing at the bed of chaos at 11:13 🤣🤣
Ornstein to Smough vs Seath: "WHAT ARE YOU AIMING AT?!"
Smough couldn’t help but laugh at how pathetic the bed is when it can’t spleef you.
Pretty cool to see our favorite Buddy Cop duo actually squaring off against evil unleashed for once!
And that duel between ornstein and the golem?!! Straight outta the OG God of War games, that was.
12:46 that sound syncing with the hammer just just gold
The fight with asylum demon was like:
Ornstein: _Step aside, fat boy_
Smoughs laughs every now and then are so creepy 😂
9:40 - героическое спасение Орнштейна Смоугом
I love how fast the boss music stops for most of these 😂
Honestly, the fight against the Demon Firesage looks really cool
But he did nothing. The Stray Demon that almost won, not the firesage.
Something about the Capra Demon getting MURKED is so satisfying
I loved Seath the Scaleless boss fight when I first fought him. I thought he was pretty cool
Ornstein and Smough you came into the wrong neighborhood!
"Nice big attack you got there, too bad we have *P O I S E*"
I thought of something when seeing Seath fight them. Why hasn't Priscilla made an appearance? Then I thought to myself... "Maybe she won't work, since she isn't hostile the moment you encounter her, so she isn't considered a valid target, or something." The bosses would probably just stand there, and nothing would happen.
Honestly, I wanna see a compilation all boss death animations, as they all look amazing.
Bit disappointed in Ornstein for the Seath performance, but then again Seath would probably have enough lucidity left to know that someone whose moniker is "Dragon Slayer" should be taken care of before Mr. Creosote.
Also I wonder if any AI in the game is advanced enough to be able to win the Bed of Chaos fight. Doubt it, but maybe?
I'd say no, mainly because in ds3 even the late game bosses struggle with deacons of the deep(because they aren't programmed to target the glowing deacon)
@@tylervanpeursem7627 The only DS3 boss that didn’t struggle was Yhorm, and that was only because his weapon was long enough to hit the Archdeacon inside of Aldrich’s tomb
Bed of Chaos did a good job.
Been waiting for this day
Man pinwheel lasted A LOT
5:59
Dragonslayer Ornstein? More like Ornsteinsylayer Seath!
bed of chaos vs o&s was super close, had me on the edge of my seat
Ah Smornstein, my favorite duo.
say what you will about Seath and Pinwheel as Boss fights, they sure got my favorite Songs from the Album
it´s really hilarious how Smough just auto cancels every attack coming form the left
I absolutely love how smough laughs after ornstein beats bed of chaos
Bro the iron golem said I'm not taking no as a answer
im surprised pinwheel survived a single hit from smough
Iorn golem vs Super Ornstein was pretty bad ass ngl. They should do a full health fight for them
Sonetimes Smough was helping like THAT guy in school projects
I demand a rematch for every previous enemy that went up against the centipede demon but in their own arenas.
Besides kalameet he killed the centipede demon before he could die
Wait for pinwheel vs asylum demon 👹
I really would want to do that, to show people that Pinwheel isn't as weak as they think, but unfortunately Asylum Demon only works in Asylum, and Pinwheel's clones and teleportation only work in his arena.
Iron Golem without stagger? Yes please!
ornstein and smoug vs bosses but that they are 2v2 that is to say that they are for example ornstein and smoug vs 2 artorias.
Or Artorias and Ciaran ^^
Good video. I think there should’ve been two bell gargoyles
the four kings actually might have had a shot... if there were all 4 of the four kings
What about Artorias, Manus and Gwyn? I have discovered your channel Just few days ago, i thank you for your very good job.
They all got washed in their own vids.
They already fought against Ornstein and Smough in their own videos.
So, I'm curious, why does Asylum Demon only work in the Asylum, yet all other bosses could be spawned in O&S's boss arena?
I don't know, something about his AI is weird. He just doesn't move if placed in any other map.
Yo, how are we not gonna talk about my man Smough no-hitting Nito of all bosses? Wish the player's backstep was that good.
Now we just need tarkus vs the entire soulsborne games. We all know who'd win. Soldier of godrick.
Iron golem fight was amazing the balance thing kinda makes it fair since its a mechanic meant to be exploited by the player, two bosses would make him go into this state more often and win easily, the bug of chaos fight was hilarious i wonder how many of them would kill O&S but if too many used the pyromancy at the same time then your pc would melt instead lol what about ceaseless discharge? can it be moved from it's arena? although i am not sure if there's too many places to spawn him due to his size and because *tentacles* .
for moonlight butterfly i just remember there were some butterflies on seath level, i wonder if those dont cause the lag issue you've mentioned before
Ceaseless Discharge can be moved, but he can't attack enemies at ground level. Moonlight Butterflies in Crystal Caves are the same as the boss, just with different stats and AI.
Since the one with the spear is agile and the one with the hammer is big and fat, it reminded me of Astelis and Obelix.
Ornstien and Smough, the unstoppable duo!!
I can stop them bro 🗿🥂
Seath's claw attacks seemed to not be aimed properly the entire fight, but theirs did to, so it's as fair as it gets for fights where one party is completely immune to the other party's main offensive ability. It's weird that the Stray Demon and Demon Firesage always use their weak magic attack instead of their much stronger and more varied melee attacks. Not really fair to put Centipede Demon against them away from its arena. Four Kings could probably beat Ornstein and Smough, if there were actually four instead of one.
I've always found it really weird that Seath and Nito are so much weaker in boss vs boss fights, especially Nito, since the bosses aren't straight up immune to his primary method of killing.
Wait are they targeting Seath’s head? Is that why enemies always attack the area in front of seath?
I think their AI just attacks were the other model begins and since Seaths head leans over them they might think it´s right in front of them, not being able to tell the height difference
bed of chaos putting in work
I spat out my fucking tea when I saw Bed of Chaos lmao
It’s kind of ironic that ornstein died to a dragon even though he is a “dragon slayer” 5:39
I did not realize that smough was actually the same size as the asylum demon, I swear I thought he was smaller
With Stray Demon against Smough, they seem awfully similar. In my opinion, Stray is just a slower phase 2 Smough with a slight bit of magic thrown in.
What boss arena is this?
Ornstein's and Smough's arena.
@@Pantagana oh gotcha, haven't got there yet cus I can't pass those 2 archers 😭
Yo 10 months later did you beat o&s?@@MarvelGirlMona
I like how we get a good look a gaping dragon
That one of the Kings is strong holy shit
Undefeated tag team duo!!
you should have put the duo in the normal environments against the giant bosses
Ornstein and Smough's phase 2 transition wouldn't work outside of their arena.
@@Pantagana that would be more fair
@@Pantagana True, but perhaps you can just pause their AI and spawn in the appropriate version? Something to consider, anyhow, but it does sound like it could be a bit difficult to somehow deaggro the arena while maintaining health statuses...
@@khajiitimanus7432 You can't put their second phase on other enviroments? After one of them get killed
@@valletos It doesn't seem to be the case, from what I've observed, but I'm not the one to ask, since I'm just a viewer.
Smough really didn't seem to understand where Seath's hurtboxes were. Man kept whiffing a stationary target.
can't believe they got demons greataxe from taurus, I've never gotten it a single time through like 30 playthroughs
It would be cool to see how they fight ceaseless discharge
Dude i never noticed four kings were this big, is it because of the abbys ?
The gargoyls should have been two. And Capra at least with three dogs. Bed of Chaos should have been in his own arena, such as the Centipede.
The battle against the bed of chaos was wild 💀💀💀
Ornstein and smough dance 😎
Artorias, Manus, Gwyn, the REAL Four Kings, would have all given these guys a fair shake. Real shame to see they didn't make the cut, I'm honestly bummed.
Artorias, Manus, and Gwyn all had their own vs all bosses vids. They all lost to O&S, though credits to Manus and Gwyn they could win under the right circumstances. The only one to beat O&S and fairly comfortably at that was Kalameet.
@@AR-bj5et Again another contender that failed to make the cut. My thing is sure we already saw the match but who cares. How many times did we see Gael vs. Yhorm by both Pantagana and Bonfire VN, and all the other modder channels? Probably about a dozen to maybe even as high as 30 Gael vs. Yhorm matches between all the channels and videos. Does that make any one of them less interesting or less viewable? In my opinion no. These are in fact actually some of the most well-performing videos from all the channels. I also constantly requested Midir vs. Gael in Gael's arena back in the DS3 days, which I'm 1,000% sure would have brought in Millions if not at least a half million views, but no one wants to do it. Why? Again that is what baffles me, more fights in the videos = more watch time = more views = more content revenue... I guess some people(maybe even the modders themselves) really would just prefer to NOT see certain fights.
Idk if it's possible, but in my head I need a royal rumble all-bosses against each other in one arena and see who is the ultimate boss of them all :D
Some Bosses only work in their own arenas, so it's not possible to have all of them in one place.
11:04 the literal hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
Man I saw a BUNCH of attacks from the bosses do no damage to O&S despite landing clean hits. Wonder what was up with that?
They didn't hit.
Ngl thinking of an alternative timeline where Orstein and Smough where both chosen undeads would make a very lore inacurate but very cool story to tell
I just realized stray demon is bigger than smough
lmao I forgot the four kings are just so disgustingly fast lmao they flew at ornstein so fast
Out of personal interest, what happened to Moonlight Butterfly, Prescilla, Artosias, Manus and Kalameet? Are they excluded for a reason?
There are already videos with kalammet, manus and artorias fighting all bosses including O&S
@@wujekmarian3414
That makes sense, though it would be helpful just to add them in here for completion. And still Butterfly and Prescilla still missing.
But thanks for clearing that up :)
Moonlight Butterfly causes lag, and for Priscilla - I'll upload a video that shows why I don't include her in AI battles.
So we saw ornstein getting eaten alive by gaping dragon basicly and then just walk away like
"Bugs this year ts"
This is like Astérix and Obélix
Honestly, it’s just very situational.
As it turns out instead of chilling in Anor Londo all day these two should have gone and relight the first flame.
alright but
could ornstein and smough working together beat either super ornstein or super smough.
Interesting question.
Seeing the first boss actually have the cojones to make Smough STAGGER...
respect+