Remington Revolving Carbine | Uberti Replica rifle
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Back in the 1860s, Remington modified their New Model Army into a rifle configuration as sort of a response to Colt's revolving carbine. Colt made theirs to try to get a military contract, and Remington marketed theirs as a civilian hunting rifle. Neither brand's revolving carbine managed to be a huge seller as there was the danger of having a chain fire and, if you held it wrong, you could shoot yourself in the back of the support hand!
Join me as we take a look at this unique reproduction and fire a few rounds at the 7, 15 and 100 yard targets!
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Perfect timing. I just received mine in the mail yesterday and have not fired it yet. Thanks for the tips. I hope to have better luck with the caps I have.
It could have been the caps I was using. You may have better luck with #10s or #11s. Good luck, have fun, be safe and thanks for watching!
This gun could be seen in The Good The Bad and the Ugly when one of Angel Eye's henchmen aims and shoots it at Tuco and Blondie before being shot back by Tuco in the destroyed city while making their way to Sad Hill Cemetery.
You are correct!
I've had mine for 15 or 16 years, it really likes 30gr of Pyrodex RS & .454 balls, (Lee Mold), I cut my wads & lube with Bore Butter on top of the ball, & I use a 5/16" hardwood dowel to push the caps home, 100 yard clay pigeons don't stand a chance. You'll love this carbine when its dialed in.
I just wish I had some nicer weather to do the dialing in, in! Thanks for watching!
I bought one just like that and have had it around 5 year's and it's a good little carbine and very accurate. I keep it clean as brand new. I use triple 777 in mine and wash it with awesome cleaner and I have had very good luck useing it. And it's still looks new and shiny as a mirror down through the rifleing . And keep it lubed with g96 lubricant and I haven't found any rust yet so I guess I'm doing something right. I've been shooting black powder revolvers and Hawkins for 38 years and they are great to shoot. Well keep up the good shooting and bust some more clays
Real good fun!
I agree! Thanks for watching!
Bought one of these a month or so ago. I took it out to 50 yd standing and it's shockingly accurate. I had the same issue with RWS caps failing to detonate. I wonder if it's 1) the caps, 2) the nipple height being inconsistent, or 3) a weak mainspring. I also used 30gr charges of pyrodex P and RS, it seemed to prefer RS with roundballs. I found loading the cylinder on the gun put undue stress on the stock so switched to loading with a press. Finally, johnston & dow conicals were basically worthless and extremely difficult to load so I didn't bother with them.
I'm also in Ohio and would love to hunt with this thing - lightweight, multiple shots, and accurate.
I think I might have had a little better luck with some #11 caps, I'll have to get it out again some day and give them a try. I may even have to try some Slixshot nipples on it, who knows? Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I was thinking the same about slixshots - I have a set on a pietta 1860 and they rock.
Fun looking one. Are you familiar with the Polish capper? Made by a guy in Poland interestingly. It’s the only capper I’ve found that works well. Although all of my percussion guns are Colts.👍🏻
I have seen them, but haven't ordered one yet.
I think I’ve tried every type of capper out there. The Polish one works the best, for me anyway.
those are cool for what they are but they have alot of the same issues the old ones did so i think it will be a fun gun long as it runs right for you
Yeah, I think the original production was only around 800 units, there has to be a reason for that. Thanks for watching!
30 grains under a pill that weighs 148 grains isn't enough for deer
I think shot placement would have a lot to do with the outcome. I have heard stories of people taking deer with a .22 rifle. There are many other muzzleloaders that would be a better choice for deer hunting, but it does meet the legal requirements for the state of Ohio. Thanks for watching!
Beautiful thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
A favorite fun gun. It took me a while to learn how best to load it. After replacing the nipples with SlixShot ones, pushing the caps firmly into place with a wooden dowel rod (mine is a wooden spoon handle), getting the powder right, etc, when loading the cylinder out of the frame, it eventually became a consistently firing C&B shooter, accurate enough on a man sized target out to 200 yards (furthest I've tested it). With a cartridge conversion cylinder it shoots smokeless "Cowboy" cartridge loads pretty well too.
I keep hearing a lot of good things about SlixShot nipples, I really need to pick some up. I will pick up a cartridge version someday. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Track of the Wolf also has excellent replacement nipples with very tiny flash holes that minimize blowback and really prevent cap jams. Work well with #11 CCI, #11 RWS and #11 Remington caps. Also you can use the #10 Remington caps which have longer skirts meant for revolver use, but are the same diameter as #11's. #10 CCI's will not work as they are much too small in diameter.
[NOTE, FWIW: When removing/replacing the cylinder I always keep the hammer at half-cock].
@@63DW89A I haven't been on Track of the Wolf website in a while, I'll have to take a peek. I have had some issues with CCI caps but sadly that's the only ones I've been seeing on the shelves lately. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching too!
Awesome! I was shooting mine the other day with 30-grain charges and the accuracy was pretty bad. I plan to do some experimenting to find a good load.
25 grains seemed pretty good. I was shooting offhand though. After taking the shots at the 100yd target I went up to see where I was hitting, I was about a foot low and all pretty consistent.
My gun is notably oversized. short story, try .457 RB's or the Lee 456-220-1R (think Ruger Old Army sized bullets).
Check your forcing cone, cylinder bores for uniformity of size and use a bigger ball with 25 gr load and see if that don't get it.
I got 2 good friends who specialize in gunsmithing that do great work.
Good luck!
Also, sight it in and paint a white or red edge on front sight
I like the detail you put into the video. I think the information would be especially useful to those new to black powder.
I hope so and I'm learning more and more every day. Thanks for watching Squib!
Recently bought one of these and added the 45 Colt conversion cylinder to shoot low end Cowboy loads. Thing shoots GREAT and must be the lightest .45 Colt carbine you can find!
I'll bet that thing is a lot of fun. Thanks for watching!
Are you running number 10 or 11 caps? Idk if you can use 11 but it’s my understanding they have more charge allowing for more uniform ignition. The other thing is ANY new gun piled up from the factory I will shoot caps through the cylinders first a couple times just to make sure it’s dry
I used RWS 1075 caps in this video and probably didn't push them on far enough with just my fingers, I usually use a piece of wood to push them on farther. @10:22 I placed 6 of the RWS caps on the nipples to clear them out, I did not show me firing the caps with the unloaded chambers. @11:30 I loaded my first paper cartridges in the cylinders. @12:38 I put the second set of caps on the nipples and did not push them on with my dowel, again.
Maybe a tiny tip about capping. I use a disposable chopstick, with a piece of a rubber tube stuck at the end of it. The rubber protrudes just enough so the cap can be placed in there without it falling off. Then it's easy to push the caps on, then pull to the side and the cap stays firmly seated.
I find it faster than trying to place the caps by hand, then use a stick to sit them in. One less operation. And it seems much less of a fiddly job too.
I have several different capping tools and will probably pick up a few more but it seems I always use my fingers anyway. I do have a stick in the Saloon that I usually use to push them on further but I just didn't use it in this video. Thanks for the tip, I may just do a video on capping tools someday. (maybe when percussion caps are more available) Thanks for watching too!
When I was selling firearms the best for reliability in percussion caps were RWS Dynamit Noble caps
Pretty hard to find, these days. Thanks for watching!
as saied George Szaszvari, after puting caps on nipples, push them with a hard wood piece and you aven't not ignition problem.👍
Will do. Thanks for watching!
The 1858 cellinder will interchange from carbine to pistol of the same caliber.
Nice! Thanks for watching!
Try 2f, 20 to 24 gr for accuracy. Shot cap and ball in competition for years and it was always the most accurate.
Thanks for the tip and thanks for watching too!
Could the rifle be modified to you for example had a "vertical grip" of sone sort so you could use the other hand?
I guess anything is possible, but Taurus makes a revolving Carbine with a shield to protect your arm from cylinder gap blast.
A straight inline capper works great
I have a couple different styles of cappers, I may have to do a video on the different models. Thanks for watching!
Very cool!!!
Thanks!
Can you buy a cylinder that uses regular ammunition?
I believe you can buy a conversion cylinder. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview yeah I was looking at some, appreciate the info
I hate when someone does a video, (Dustin Winegar) and someone else decides to make a "copy" video from it. Be original man.
Are you saying I copied Dustin's video idea?
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview His came out 2 days ago with similar photo of the same exact carbine. Guns of the West has been around for many years, so yes, you ditto'ed the same exact model gun 2 days later as I see it. Not a crime, just unoriginal.
Dustin and I chat regularly and right after I bought mine, I told him how to get a big discount on the rifle. He bought one and received it a couple days after I got mine. His work schedule and mine are a little bit different so he got to do his video and release it before I could finish mine. It's not that I was copying him or anything like that, we just happened to get them at nearly the same time. Dustin and I are friends and we have different audiences. Sure, some of our subscribers are the same but we're not competing on anything. We have also done Heritage and Ruger Wrangler revolvers, we've even done Traditions Cannons. We're offering different opinions on firearms and sometimes they're the same models, there's a chance we might even review the very same gun. It may seem a little unfortunate that we reviewed them so close together but we bought them just a couple days apart and we were both excited to get one.
You may also want to check the dates, I posted my video on 12/2/22 and his was on 12/5/22, but we're not competing anyway.
l just got a Uberti 1851 Navy and found RWS 1075 caps work perfectly. they seem to be a tiny bit smaller than CCI#11 or Remington #10. The 1075 does not work on Slixshot nipples. I call it "Damp" fire somewhere between dry fire and live "wet" fire . You never know if it will fire or not.
Thanks for the video nifty gun but I will stick with my Sharps.
They all seem to be hit or miss and sometimes it's hard to tell if it's the caps or the nipples. I have never heard anything bad about slixshot nipples though. I really need a Sharps! One with a 34" barrel, a 45-110 chambering and the patch box on the butt stock. Someday! Thanks for watching!
Omg the bloods have discovered black powder guns.
Lol. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview yea in all seriousness it was a good video those revolving carbines are cool and strange at the same time cool despite the design flaws too expensive for me anyway
@@anthonypiranio7409They can be a lot of fun, just not the best design.
@@homesteadohio yea they do seem fun
A beautiful and very interesting rifle I have a couple of Remington New Model Army replicas an Armi San Marco and an Armi San Paolo but would love the Rifle great video. I would love to see Colt carbine replica! Massive cool factor!
I think Uberti is the only company that makes the revolving carbine and there almost as unpopular today as they were in the 1800s. Thanks for watching!
the polish capper is designed for the remington, just make sure you watch the video on how to use it.
I have seen them before, just haven't got around to picking one up yet. Thanks for watching!
Congrats on the new toy. Those carbines look like a lot of fun.
They're a little more work to clean, but still lots of fun! Thanks for watching!
Nice video Richard. Love the look of the Remingtons.
Thanks! Me too, I especially like the top strap. Thanks for watching!
Sweet gun. I've always had trouble with uberti's having light hammer strikes. Pietta wouldn't have that problem. If ya can't tell, I'm a Pietta fan. Hahaha
Thanks for another great video.
I just wish Pietta didn't put their writing all over the sides of the barrel. Thanks for watching!
On a Remington you can try increasing mainspring tension/hammer strike with the set screw in the front of the grip frame 😊
Oops, just realized different non-adjustable main spring on the 1858 carbine That's unfortunate 😢
@@dorisjohnson8857 I have used a shim under the front part of the spring before. Almost like a half of a washer on the top side of the screw.
@@dorisjohnson8857 That would be a nice feature to have on these revolvers.
I have one of these. Of interest the chambers and barrel groove size on mine is over-sized from nominal. I found that .451 RB too small, .454 RB is marginal and .457 RB just right. Also, the Lee 456-220-1R meant for the Ruger Old Army works very well. As for the stock...it's awful, at least for me. I haven't found any available replacement with a shotgun butt and good LOP on the market so I guess I will have to make it my self.
That fancy curve at the back looks really cool but it is not the most comfortable. I can get it to a place on my shoulder where it's tolerable but I agree a shotgun but would be a little nicer. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Also, I modified an in-line caper to fit by narrowing the steel spring just a little so that it fit the gap by the nipple. I have not tried 1056 caps but they are obviously not seating all the way with just the thumb. Try gently pressing them on with a small wood dowel. Happy shooting!
@@thinkingbill1304 I have 11s and 12s, I should have tried them to see if I got the same results.
@@thinkingbill1304 Yes, that works well. If you don't have a dowel handy , you can try gently easing the hammer softly onto each seated cap and then firmly press it forward (keep it safely down range of course)
I have done that just a little bit, not enough to set it off and probably not enough to actually move it either.
Try using a wooden dowl to seat your caps with..It will cut the misfires way down..
Thanks for the tip