This is true goodness! Sure looks stable and now and I feel my new 7" Alien build is getting R9. I bought two complete setups when they were $30 a piece and have been waiting for the right time... it's the right time ;) Thanks buddy, for all the help and hard work, from all of us!!
Nice clear concise video, thanks Torban. I’m subbed. My R9 is fitted to my Q7 and on anything over 10mw gives a loud buzz through the speaker. This does not seem right, thoughts please? Oh and I take it adaptive mode is the “Auto
Hi, thanks! Yes 1Watt is adaptive as you can also see on my r9m power consumption video. The speaker buzzing is a known issue of electromagnetic inteferences. You can try to shield your speaker - or just turn down the volume of you taranis ;)
Hello from frozen Russia! I can't to fly at winter(-30 degrees below zero by Celsium scsle), but always glad to see your videos. Its ineresting at any time of year. Thanx
SuperJayJoe Dank Dir! Ja das mit dem Stecker war einfach die pragmatischste Lösung und funktioniert super, selbst wenn der ganze FC über die Taranis mit 5V versorgt wird.
Hellllp so my tarantis x9d+ is on 2.2.3 but the r9m and r9mm won't bind with any firmware. RX when binding RX is green/red but after power off it has a odd red flicker. What is wrong?
The best work i have seen with your vidéos here, bravo 😁 Your distance is limited cause the battery , maybe others batteries or low kV motors will you plan in the future !?
Thanks you Sergy! I'm not sure what i will do next, i think at first i will try bigger batterys. I like my 5 inch quads, i don't know if i will build a 6 or 7 inch quad. At next i need a new action cam, after i have lost my foxeer box i don't know what to buy. The Xiaomi Yi is ok for those test videos, but i need a better one for freestyle flights. I'm waiting for the release of the new foxeer box 2.
@@TorbanDallas yes not easy to change all for a 7 inch model ( it costs) , bigger batteries will help, check maybe propellers in 2 blades who could reduce consumption too , bon courage 😉
Thanks for the video’s really helpful. Just wondering about your update cable to your R9MM when it’s in the quad. Do you have the R9MM powered from the FC RX 4.5v pad, so when plug a usb cable In it powers up or do you have to plug a lipo in? I have the same issue as you had and I would like the option to up date the R9MM rx when it’s In the quad rather than taking it out. I was going to just add a ground and Support cable and plug And power the FC, R9MM from the usb and update the firmware with plug connected to my Taranis minus the +v connection, but I don’t know if it’s ok to have Sbus connect when updating the firmware?
pablo i have connected my r9mini to the rx 5v and gnd pads of my helio fc. So the rx gets powered when i plug in the USB cable and when i power my r9mini over the taranis update cable it also powers my fc. But as you see in my video it works even without powering my quad over the usb or with the battery.
@@TorbanDallas Thanks for the reply, so your taranis supplies 5v on to the FC 5v line which then powers up the FC and the R9mini and the 3rd wire connects to the R9mini Support pad? That's interesting way of solving the problem.😁 .Its a shame you cant use serial pass through when the FC is powered ,then just have the Support pad permanently wired to a spare Uart or soft serial connection...
@@pablofpv my taranis to the r9mini cable is connected from the taranis to 5v gnd and fport on my r9mini as shown in my other video at 3:50 ua-cam.com/video/AOWOxPo9A0g/v-deo.html i like it to power the rx with the usb connection, so yes it's a shame that i can't use the passthrough update function.
It looks so stable in your video. I have the R9M in my QX7S and the R9MM receiver on my quad and this week I had to experience a scary flyaway. I think the receiver didn't activate failsafe because the Betaflight log says that the quad has had signal but I wasn't able to control it anymore. I don't know what happened because I tested failsafe several times before the flight and the quad would just turn off the motors when it looses signal. My failsafe is set to dump the quad. Anyone an idea what I can do? If someone was able to help me, I can provide the Betaflight blackbox log and the DVR footage.
@@TorbanDallas Yes that's true. I changed back to SBUS ans SPort and since then I haven't experienced similar problems again. I also did an update to OpenTX 2.2.3 stable.
hello Torban thanks for the video very helpful for a starter like me! i have a taranis x9d pl/ se R9M eu module /and R9mm eu receiver With the help of your video, updating the transmitter and mudule was successful without problems My question is; can I flash the receiver with only a connection between transmitter and receiver without further connection to a drone? Have not yet made a choice in what I am going to try to build have only been working on this for two weeks Thank you in advance for your response Wr Henk (fr Holland)
hello Torban I am looking for the connection on the r9mm from bottom to top on transmitter yellow / black / red on the reciever from bottom to top yellow (s port) / black (ground) /red(v in)hope thats right fore flashing the r9mm? Wr Henk
@@lloydhutchinson9848 the different version numbers are confusing at the latest firmware release, but it's the same firmware with the same update time. Only install the latest firmware on your r9 and your r9mm as shown in my video. Don't care about the file size, it's a zip file that contains different firmware files.
Hey Torben, danke für das Video. hätte da mal ne frage zu der flexfirmware. auf der frsky seite gibt es diesen reiter "flexfirware" nicht mehr. kann ich davon ausgehen, dass der 1 download unter "firmware" also die flexf. ist`?
@@TorbanDallas hehe ja ich war gestern abend etwas banane als ich das geschrieben habe - hab ich mittlerweile auch auf dem rechner. hast du evtl noch die neuere version davon?`es gab doch mal ne version vom 24.09.2019 - auf der frsky seite gibts aber nur noch die versiuon vom 13022019. hast ne ahnung wieso die neuer ver rausgenommen wurde? ach und vielen Dank für die schnelle Antwort!
Hi! I know it is an old video, but maybe meanwhile you have more experience with r9 system. For Accst 2018 r9m and r9mm, what flex fw version has stable telemetry range? I have sensors lost randomly and frquently on r9mm, mini. Thx!
Do we need to Flash ALL the available Firmware files to get ALL the benefits?....Or only one File, the latest.???? Im asking because the size of the available files are considerably different....and why would they not remove the older firmwares just leaving the latest ones on their Website? It's confusing, why would they do that?
EnglishTurbines all the files? So you mean flashing all files step by step to the latest? No you don't have to do that. Just flash the latest one. The file size of the zip files are different because of the different containing files.
Hi again. i have purchased the x-lite pro and put flex firmware on the r9 module flashed with flex accees and i was wondering which mode do i use to bind R9MLP OR R9ML? I am using lbt does not give an option for flex on the setup menu. Thanks for any advice.
More details please, you probably self answering your question. You have a x-Lite, so you probably can't use a r9 (full size) module, you need the small one. R9Lite or R9Lite Pro. Like R9ML or R9MLP ... which one do you use? Next make sure to use the latest opentx version on your radio and the latest frsky firmware for your module and receivers.
@@TorbanDallas worked it out, thanks for the reply, it is a r9 m-lite pro module, their names for things can be confusing, can see the spectrum analyzer in the tools but not the power meter?
HI you get some good speeds with your quads Q: Do I need Flex in Australia, I know 915 meg ., have new in box R9M and rx with twin antennas plus super 8 this will my first longer range try. Cheer's BF
Hi, no you don't need flex, you can use the FCC Firmware. Flex is like the FCC Firmware with the additional option of changing the frequency to 868Mhz for the EU.
Hi TORBAN, I wonder if you may have any advice? I am running two separate quads using the r9 m lite module and two r9 mini both flex European firmware on official tx companion 2.2.3 firmware, both with the upgraded europeans antennas and the upgrade super 8 antenna on the module, both quads get about max range no more than 600m before rssi says critical, flying with no obsticals also the receivers bound at 100mw, I should be getting more range than this? Any advice appreciated.
quadthing copter did you see my frsky r9m failsafe troubleshooting video? Check the advices in my video. Make sure to install the same firmware version on your r9 module and your receiver. Bind your receiver new after flashing. I have also made a test flight with only 10mw over 2km.
@@TorbanDallas Thanks, Turned out it was a faulty module, one of the first batch with a resistor missing, replaced the module, did a 3k round trip, very pleased. you can view the flight on my channel. Thanks.
Hello. What determines if it is 868mhz or 900mhz. is it firmware? Or the antenna? or the module? I'm thinking of buying this from banggood. Living in europe so must use 868mhz. But how do I know what I get?
mrtokyo1989 doesn't matter what you get. If you have got your r9m module and your receiver you just need to flash the module and the receiver to the eu lbt or the flex firmware. You also need the 868 tx and rx antennas. The stock antennas are crap.
Hi. I have a Matek F411 board and R9 slim plus receiver. Can you help me with how to wire this.and setup on the Inav. Do i use the S-port from receiver to s-bus on the FC? or TX1 ? I have flashed R9m module and the receiver with the newest flex firmware.
Well, you need 5v, Gnd and SBUS_OUT on your R9 Slim to the SBUS / RX Solderpad on your FC. Then you can even solder the S.Port wire to an S.port / TX on your FC for Telemetry.
Its working now :) I used the sport from the receiver to the sbus pin on the FC. :D i haven't check the telemetry yet. I have the r9 slim plus receiver.
Thanks...They have now released Open TX 2.2.3.....Im going to try updating my Firmware to Flex now. I removed my 868mhz R9MM RX and now the firmware looks a lot more stable to try giving it another go. I have the 868mhz Tru-Mox TX antenna....How did you find yours..?....Did it work okay for you..? Can you fit a 4000mah Lipo and fly it out to 4kms now..?
EnglishTurbines yes opentx 2.2.3 is officially released now ☺️ i liked the true mox 868 but until i have got the Super 8 868 eu version i don't use my true mox anymore. I don't think that i can fly 4km and also 4km back with a 4000mah battery. I will try 1800 and 2000mah batteries soon. I'm trying to be back with making flight videos at the end of February.
I can easily fly for 4 kms on a 1500mah 4S....I dont think my motors are as greedy as yours though...? 2 kms is not long range.... you know that yes..?
EnglishTurbines of course, it's not really long range. It's just as long as i can fly with my setup. I'm interested how far i can fly with new batteries.
jhitmann Hulk hi danke, ich glaub ich würde aktuell einen dalrc oder foxeer f722 verbauen. Die fcs haben einen f4 und f7 an Bord. Dann kannst du wahlweise beide ausprobieren.
Super. Signalstärke so wie bei mir ohne Failsafe . Habe aber erst 2 Testflüge nach dem Update gemacht, da es bei uns zuviel Schnee hat. Habe diesmal ein gutes Gefühl aber dennoch glaube ich, dass man TX und RX Antennen besser tunen könnte. Habe aber kein Spectrum Analyzer. Soweit sogut. Frage: hast Du alle Sensoren der Telemetrie oder nur RSSI und RXbat?. Ich habe im FC Telemetrie nicht aktiviert.
Stefan Kellenberger ja es braucht noch ein paar Flüge, habe aber auch ein gutes Gefühl. Ich habe nur rssi und rxbat. Sonst nichts. Alles andere steht ja im Osd ☺️
Ich hatte die Woche ein Flyaway, obwohl ich mein Failsafe vor dem Flug mehrfach getestet habe. Laut dem Betaflight Log hat der Empfänger Signal gehabt, aber ich konnte nicht mehr steuern. Ich weiß ehrlich gesagt nicht was los war, weil ich es nach dem Crash nochmal probiert habe und da hat failsafe funktioniert, als die Fernbedienung Signal verloren hat. Ich habe gerade versucht mein Problem auf Englisch zu schildern und dann gesehen, dass es hier glücklicherweise noch mehr Deutsche gibt. Hat irgendwer einen schlauen Tipp, was da los war? Ich hab noch einen Betaflight Log und die DVR-Aufnahme.
Erwin uh das klingt ja gruselig. Aber du hast deinen Copter ja offensichtlich wieder gefunden. Wie sind deine Failsafe Einstellungen in Betaflight? Kontaktiere mich mal auf Facebook, dann können wir dem Problem besser nachgehen.
Torban - can you help me? I have just started with R9 system. Ive flown maybe 5 flights on my source 1 - R9MM, matekF405CTR. Ive had a lot of failsafes - sometimes I get **** in the OSD. The quad kind of locks (getting no more receiver inputs) and then drops. Ive also had very brief momentary losses of connection, where you see the quad jerk/bump for a moment. I fact it's just locking again - and then you regain control. Im running the latest formwares on both R9 module and RX. Running the flex firmware, and 500mw, powered by external battery on QX7. Question: Have you had to debug any of these issues, and if you have, what did you do? Thanks for your time :)
@@charlietait1 Yes f.port is not only a good idea, in most cases, it's the best idea if you want to experience Failsafes every 20 seconds and every 10meteres. It's new, most people never heard about it bevor, so it must be something special, it must be good. Let's use it even when we don't know what it does. I really don't understand why so many people are using f.port. Just use one more wire to your FC and stay with s.port. Where's the benefit? Saving one wire? But getting Failsafes? Stop using f.port firmware and i promise, all of your issues will be gone. On some quads f.port works solid, but on many quads, it doesn't. It seems to be depending on the Flight Controller.
@@TorbanDallas Thanks so much. That could explain why it's happening a lot on one quad (matek f405ctr) and not on the other (brain radix). I'll redo everything with sbus and go from there. Also I found your helpful video on r9 debugging... Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Thanks for your comment! Well, there's three kinds of firmware versions for the r9m available: A FCC Firmware for everyone outside the EU, an EU Firmware for flying in the EU and the Flex Firmware - with the Flex Firmware you can set the ouput Frequency to the FCC 915MHz or to 868MHz for the EU. You're even free to set the output power of your R9M Module. And at last, you always should use the newest Firmware.
Well, I have very detailed FPV Quadcopter Build + Setup Videos on my channel - there you will see how to connect a FrSky Receiver to a flight controller and even how to set it up.
David Hannigan Jr. Flex it's almost the same firmware as the fcc firmware, but you can change the frequency from 915MHz to 868MHz for the EU. So it's better for the EU Users. The EU LBT firmware is limited to 25mW or 500mW without telemetry.
@@TorbanDallas Yes, I saw on website it says 1w now but unspecified if its for EU version. And I am wondering if you use EU hardware and what output power in general 😂
Hello Torban, I have been watching all your clips on the r9 system, I've got mine up and running with 2.2.3 and flex firmware, I've flown out to about a km with 100mw. However I have discovered that I can now not bind to my XM+ receiver in another quad.... Have you any ideas how I can get the tx and rx to communicate again? Thanks in advance for any help. I'm stumped.
Shish FPV do you have the internal xjt or eu lbt module? Maybe you have flashed your taranis to the wrong firmware. Or did you even accidentally try to bind your xmplus with the external r9m? You still need to bind your internal module with the xmplus. I'm just thinking about possible mistakes. Please tell me more details about what you did.
@@TorbanDallas Thanks for getting back to me so quicky. Its and internal LBT, when I try to bind to the XM+ now I get the two sold lights on the receiver so Im guessing its a firmware mis-match. Im not entirely sure what I have done?
Shish FPV which firmware are you running on your xmplus? For binding your press the bind button and you keep it pressed, then you power your quad and you try to bind your internal rf with the xmplus? And it worked before but it doesn't work anymore since your have flashed opentx 2.2.3? I still can bind my receiver. Maybe you also have to check the eu flag in the companion settings... But i didn't do it and it works. Did you also change the receiver numbers so that you don't use a number twice or more times?
@@TorbanDallas Im using the latest LBT 16 channel with RSSI on the XM+. As per a UA-cam clip from your good self On my transmitter my OTX Bootloader - 2.2.3 and my FW: X7 - 2.2.3 (ae5ac05b) The XM+ was previously bound and worked no issues its since I updated to 2.2.3. No matter what I do I cant get it to communicate now. I will have a look i the companion settings see if that sheds any light. Im still a novice with the Frsky..... its a steep learning curve.
Torban Dallas Thanks for your help, I got it sorted eventually, turns out I had managed to flash my internal module with a random download? (One of the points you mentioned.) I'm not sure how I managed to achieve such a feat however no harm done in the long run....
No fport won't get you out further. The flex firmware doesn't improve your flight, it just offers the ability to change the frequency between EU and FCC and the output power as well. But if you're living outside the EU you don't get any benefits out of the flex firmware
opentx 2.2.4 isn't officially released yet, you only can download a nightly build of it. But there's no reason to use opentx 2.2.4.But there's also no need to worry, Flex and r9m will work with opentx 2.2.4 - it's a newer version so it contains all the features of 2.2.3 and some addidional ones. Download 2.2.3 and don't select the nightly build option in companion. I even have created a video about flashing opentx and i have mentioned in the video description that it's not nessessary any more to use a nightly build because 2.2.3 is offically released now.
Torban Dallas excellent, thank you for that info... I have been using 2.2.2 and haven’t installed the r9m but it’s all flashed and ready. Went to update opentx and noticed the 2.4 version so I skipped 2.2.3
@@monsieur7246 with the flex firmware, you don't need to check the EU Option. If you want to use the EU LBT Firmware on your R9 System than you maybe need to check this option. I never tried it by myself: I'm using the Flex Firmware from the first day.
Hi. i have just installed the official 2.2.3 updates to my x-lite radio and installed the flex firmware Eu to my module and receivers but i have not got the option to change 100mw with telemetry as it states you can do with flex firmware, the only option is telemetry using 25mw? any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
What is the card that you attach to taranis when updating the Receiver (R9Mini) ?? (time 2:42) do I have to have it to make such an update? Please answer. if so give a link to this
ChrisRC_FPV Haha, I was waiting for someone to ask this question 😂 This is not a card. It's just the female plug matching to the male plug on my r9mini. I didn't have the female plug so i have literally cutted that plug out of an old flight controller. It's just a plug connection between both cable ends, nothing else.
ChrisRC_FPV Either you are a native speaker or you translated this phrase with the raspberries with the help of a translation tool. Anyway, i have never heard that phrase with the raspberries, but it's funny 😂
@@TorbanDallas Now the question ... is it worth to buy receiver r9 mini frsky or R-XSR? I'm hesitant because I'm looking for a second receiver for another drone. Should I go in the direction 2.4ghz or 900mhz? Or it may have two different ones installed, so that in the event of a failure you can save the plane, drone, etc
Hey, ich habe eine Frage: Ich möchte auf mein R9M modul die Flex Firmware flashen, wenn ich allerdings im Opentx Companion "FlexR9m" auswähle, kann ich nicht mehr "EU" auswählen. Dies ist ein Problem, den ich nutze meine Taranis X9D auch mit dem internen Sendemodul. Was kann ich tun?
Ja richtig EU macht dann keinen Sinn mehr. Du flashed ja nicht das interne EU LBT Modul deiner Taranis. Alles andere klappt wie bisher. Du kannst dann zusätzlich sogar noch den D8 Modus beim internen RF einstellen.
Torban Dallas Soviel ich weiss, sendet aber dann das interne Modul auf einer illegalen Frequenz, wenn beim Companion nicht EU ausgewählt worden ist. D8 ist ja in der EU auch verboten.
@@mrrose832 mh ne das interne EU LBT lässt sich nicht flashen. Das geht nicht mehr. Bei mir läuft auf jeden Fall alles problemlos. Meine XM+ und rxsr Receiver sind alle EU geflashed. Fcc Firmware funktioniert nicht
@@TorbanDallas jetzt verstehe ich - danke! Ich wundere mich allerdings, weshalb ich Opentx für non EU auf einem Sender mit EU XJT Modul laufen lassen kann...
@@mrrose832 OpenTx ist die Firmware für deine Taranis, nicht für das interne Sendemodul. Non EU gibt dir einfach nur die Möglichkeit auch den D8 Modus zu nutzen. Mit openTx flashed du ja auch nicht dein R9M - OpenTx gibt dir nur die Einstellmöglichkeiten für das R9M frei. Dein R9M musst du ja auch eigenständig mit der passenden FW flashen. Früher gab es wohl nur ein XJT Modul das man auf EU oder non EU flashen konnte. Seitdem es aber die XJT und EU-LBT Module gibt, geht das wohl nicht mehr. Im Detail habe ich mich damit aber auch noch nie auseinander setzen müssen.
hey torban. After the last firmware update the rssi seems to be corrected. so now its wrong in the osd since I changed it in an early firmware . Do you know the Stock numbers for the rssi scaling? I have no idea what it was. thanks
Sorry to bother you. Buy is there anything else i have to change in the cli when going over to crossfire. I changed the scale and offset back but i still got wrong rssi number in my osd.
Okey. I just found it alot easier with the firmware updates and stuff. But as of now i dont like it better than the r9. Did we change the rss_osd_poss or any othe values for the r9? I have 99 rssi on my controller and 49 in the goggles so just wondered if there was any other changes made. I cant remember 🙈
Irgendwelche Unterschiede? Konnte meinen Flieger noch nicht mit der neuen Firmware testen, da das Wetter sehr schlecht ist. Ich habe gelesen, dass die RSSI Darstellung verbessert worden ist.
Das Wetter ist hier nicht besser :D Spaß macht das Fliegen bei den aktuellen Temperaturen nicht. Als ich das letzte mal fliegen wollte habe ich mich auf dem matschigen Feld sogar festgefahren - aus dem Fliegen wurde dann eine Auto Bergungsaktion. Zum Testen der neuen Firmware habe ich mich dann aber doch mal rausgequält. Ich habe so einen Taranis Handschuh: www.banggood.com/Upgraded-Transmitter-Warm-Hand-Glove-Cover-Shield-Winter-Outdoor-Flying-For-Flysky-Frsky-DJI-p-1119505.html?p=LM11044296190201604E Anders klappt das Fliegen bei den Temperaturen gar nicht mehr. Im Vergleich zu meinen anderen Videos und Flügen kann ich eigentlich keinen Unterschied in der RSSI Darstellung feststellen. RSSI Wert sieht gleich aus, auch beim RSSI Output auf Kanal 16 hat sich nichts geändert, daher habe ich auch das Scaling etwas angepasst. Von Standardmäßig rssi_scale = 100 und rssi_offset = 0 auf rssi_scale = 73 und rssi_offset = 27 Auch nicht optimal aber so stimmt es in dem Bereich 50 - 60 %Rssi ziemlich genau mit dem Telemetry Wert überein. So ist der geringste RSSI Wert aber nicht mehr 0 sondern 27 und dann wird eben in 73 Schritten von 27 bis 100 skaliert. Wäre dennoch schön gewesen, wenn FrSky den Rssi Output auf dem Kanal 16 angepasst hätte.
@@TorbanDallas So, leider wieder kein Erfolg mit der F.Port Variante. Ich vermute, dass die verbauten servos irgenwelche Interferenzen erzeugen und so das F.Port Signal stören. Ich bin jetzt wieder auf die SBUS Variante umgeschwenkt, welche ohne Probleme funktioniert.
@@waldemarkraus2855 Welche Probleme hattest du genau mit der f.port Version? Ich bin aber auch bei sbus geblieben, einerseits weil ich schon so oft von Problemen mit der fport version gehört habe wie bspw. Verzögerungen und Failsafes, und anderseits weil ich es einfach nicht brauch. Alles Infos stehen im OSD, ich brauch nicht einmal Telemetrie.
@@TorbanDallas Ich bekomme immer wieder Failsafes obwohl der rssi Wert bei über 60 liegt. Teilweise komme ich aus dem Failsafes nicht mehr raus ohne die Taranis neu zu starten, der Empfang ist dabei stets gut und auch die Telemetrie funktioniert. Es liegt definitiv am F.Port weil mit der SBUS FW geht alles. Evtl gibt es hier noch irgendwelche Bugs in INAV, aber das Developer Team hat mich auf Frsky verwiesen und meinte dass der Fehler bei denen liegt.
@@TorbanDallas Noch ein wenig Input zur aktuellen Flex Firmware. Ich habe meine Antenne nun horizontal in den Flügel platziert und konnte heute 10km mit 100mw erreichen ohne FS, rssi war bei 38, d.h. hier ist noch Luft nach oben. Das ganze sogar mit Telemetrie!!
activate? Pls check this and my other videos about the Flex Firmware, I'm showing how to flash your transmitter, receiver, module and how to set it up.
Flex firmware is like the 915MHz FCC Firmware, but you can switch between 915 and 868MHz. I have made an other video about the Flex firmware, there you can see it.
@@zoom4zam Yes, you will find it if you read the video description, or if you watch this video till the end, there is also linked my other video about the flex firmware.
Moin Torban, habe gestern auch mal 3 Akkus mit der 181228 flex getestet und 0 failsafes gehabt, sonst ja immer 1-3 pro Akku. Sieht so aus als hätten sie es endlich geschafft :) Vorhin nochmal einen getestet, aber bei 250m aufgegeben, erster Flug aus einem Auto mit beheizter Frontscheibe, kann ich nicht empfehlen, Video wird da schon so schlecht, rssi vom r9 aber immer noch gut. Sch... kalt und es nieselt, mal gucken wie das Wetter morgen wird.
Das sind doch gute Neuigkeiten :) Aus dem Auto fliegen haben ich noch nicht ausprobiert. Ich benutze diesen Taranis Handschuh www.banggood.com/Upgraded-Transmitter-Warm-Hand-Glove-Cover-Shield-Winter-Outdoor-Flying-For-Flysky-Frsky-DJI-p-1119505.html?p=LM11044296190201604E&cur_warehouse=CN Funktioniert ganz gut wenn die Funke einmal drin ist. Bei dem Wetter geh ich eigentlich nur raus zum Fliegen, wenn ich etwas testen will. Berichte mal weiter, wie es mit der neuen Flex bei dir funktioniert, wäre ja schön wenn die Failsafe Probleme endlich gelöst sind :)
@@TorbanDallas Den Handschuh habe ich auch, hat aber so genieselt, da hatte ich kein Bock draußen zu stehen und die Brille nass zu machen. Normalerweise funktioniert das aus dem Auto fliegen ganz gut, aber wohl durch die beheizte Frontscheibe bei dem Auto nicht. Habe zu den Handschuh noch die Bosch heat jacket an :)
@@SchonRichtig gerade mal gegoogelt, die Jacke kannte ich gar nicht :) Und taugt die was? Beheizte Frontscheibe, dass gibt's doch nur bei Ford oder? ;)
Frsky's tragedy has released mass updates for flex. All are mixed up for downloadable tabs (r9 with r9 lite, r9mm, r9 slim etc). This is a brothel! What should I download for r9m and r9mm? I have to download each in turn and overwrite? Nothing is described; / i think that a not decent company. Do not download anything new and download only what you?
You can actually use the pins on the back of the module instead of removing it :) Edit: It seems you can't do it actually, at least not with x9d radio :(
thanks, i'm not sure about that, the pin layout is different to the layout on the module bay. And i actually i don't know what's happening when you flash an external device, does it flash the r9m or the connected receiver? The pins on the r9m are made to flash the r9m with a connector cable from the bottom pins on a Taranis QX7. I even thought about to flash the receiver with the r9m pins as i was making this video - but i didn't try it because i was not sure if it's really made for this. I think i would need the 3 right pins, on top sport, followed by voltage and gnd.
@@TorbanDallas It is same as Taranis Q X7 default port, the module just passes the signal from the pins inside. You can select 'Flash using s.port' in the menu and it will activate :)
@@dweight1990 A i see, so it's the pin layout of the qx7. Where can i set "Flash using s.port" ? If i don't set it, it would flash my r9m? On my video you see, that there isn't this option. I really don't want to risk to flash the receiver firmware to my r9m - so i think my way was the savest way. But if it also works with the r9m i think it's worth to try it.
@@TorbanDallas Just put the module inside, connect the rx and press enter on the radio when selecting the firmware, it should automatically detect the connection and put this option among others. This way you will not flash the internal or external module.
For information, I use "Flash using s.port" when i flash my r9m and my r9mm with the bottoms pins of my qx7 and it's ok . I do not have adaptive mode while i am under open tx 2.2.3N685, i do not understand. I think there are differents versions of open tx according to qx7 or qx9d
Vincent Fischer i don't need it and i have heard about issues with the fport firmware. Try the fport firmware, if you have some issues with it go back to the sbus firmware
@@TorbanDallas I'm using the fport firmware! And I have weird failsave like things happen that I don't have on another build where I use sbus. I'll try the sbus version on the problematic quad today. But if that would be the case I would loose a bit more confidence in using frsky gear because they don't have a single competent μC guy in their company it seems as this would totally be a software mistake on their end (how long is thenR9 system on the market?? how can stuff like this happen). Danke für den tipp
I have the flex firmware. Newest version on both tx and rx. 868 antenna on the TX. Original antenna on RX. I have 100db RsSI value on the taranis but only 38-39 in the osd from betaflight. If I leave it for a few minutes with the battery connected it suddenly gets rx loss and I have to reconnect the battery for the quad. I have tried several times but I always get 38 RSSI
@@Victor90NOR so you are using the rssi output on channel 16 of the r9 rx? It's scaled wrong that's why i have changed the scaling. I even mentioned my settings in the video description. You should also take a look at my FrSky r9m troubleshooting video!
Thank you for your videos on this. I have a R9 and there are not to many tutorials on it that goes into detail like yours. 🙂
This is true goodness!
Sure looks stable and now and I feel my new 7" Alien build is getting R9.
I bought two complete setups when they were $30 a piece and have been waiting for the right time... it's the right time ;)
Thanks buddy, for all the help and hard work, from all of us!!
Stashman FPV thank you very much! I appreciate it!
Nice clear concise video, thanks Torban. I’m subbed. My R9 is fitted to my Q7 and on anything over 10mw gives a loud buzz through the speaker. This does not seem right, thoughts please? Oh and I take it adaptive mode is the “Auto
Hi, thanks! Yes 1Watt is adaptive as you can also see on my r9m power consumption video. The speaker buzzing is a known issue of electromagnetic inteferences. You can try to shield your speaker - or just turn down the volume of you taranis ;)
Torban Dallas: thanks for the response. As long as no magic smoke appears I can live with the static. Cheers.
Hello from frozen Russia! I can't to fly at winter(-30 degrees below zero by Celsium scsle), but always glad to see your videos. Its ineresting at any time of year. Thanx
Андрей Колесников thank you for your comment! Here it's between 0 and 5 degrees... to cold for flying too, but not to cold to test a new firmware 😁
хеллоу Андрей! Ауар кантри из вери колд энд сэд. ви кэн флай онли ин саммер, вайтинг фор ит энд билдинг ауэр квадс!
Die Idee mit den winzigen JST 1.0 Steckern ist klasse! Hab meine Rennkopter nun damit nachgerüstet. ;) Tolle Videos, mach weiter so!
SuperJayJoe Dank Dir! Ja das mit dem Stecker war einfach die pragmatischste Lösung und funktioniert super, selbst wenn der ganze FC über die Taranis mit 5V versorgt wird.
definitely looks stable.
It takes more time and more flights to get to a final conclusion, but so far, it looks stable :)
On the last flight you did I hear you say flew with both XM+ Rx and R9mm Rx with internal and external modules both on in the Taranis?
Yes with the redundancy function - i have also made a video about it.
Torban Dallas thanks for the reply. I didn’t know this was possible. Thank you for the video. I will look at it!
I seem to be going round in circles!!
Thanks for a brilliant review very informative
Thank you :)
Hellllp so my tarantis x9d+ is on 2.2.3 but the r9m and r9mm won't bind with any firmware. RX when binding RX is green/red but after power off it has a odd red flicker. What is wrong?
Danger Davefpv Same here
The best work i have seen with your vidéos here, bravo 😁
Your distance is limited cause the battery , maybe others batteries or low kV motors will you plan in the future !?
Thanks you Sergy! I'm not sure what i will do next, i think at first i will try bigger batterys. I like my 5 inch quads, i don't know if i will build a 6 or 7 inch quad. At next i need a new action cam, after i have lost my foxeer box i don't know what to buy. The Xiaomi Yi is ok for those test videos, but i need a better one for freestyle flights. I'm waiting for the release of the new foxeer box 2.
@@TorbanDallas yes not easy to change all for a 7 inch model ( it costs) , bigger batteries will help, check maybe propellers in 2 blades who could reduce consumption too , bon courage 😉
Thanks you. It's so helpful ;) How many watt of the power at your flight test?
Hiep Dinh didn't you listen to me in my video? 🙁 i was using the adaptive mode - 100mW up to 1W 😉
Thanks for the video’s really helpful.
Just wondering about your update cable to your R9MM when it’s in the quad.
Do you have the R9MM powered from the FC RX 4.5v pad, so when plug a usb cable
In it powers up or do you have to plug a lipo in?
I have the same issue as you had and I would like the option to up date the R9MM rx when it’s
In the quad rather than taking it out. I was going to just add a ground and Support cable and plug
And power the FC, R9MM from the usb and update the firmware with plug connected to my Taranis
minus the +v connection, but I don’t know if it’s ok to have
Sbus connect when updating the firmware?
pablo i have connected my r9mini to the rx 5v and gnd pads of my helio fc. So the rx gets powered when i plug in the USB cable and when i power my r9mini over the taranis update cable it also powers my fc. But as you see in my video it works even without powering my quad over the usb or with the battery.
@@TorbanDallas Thanks for the reply, so your taranis supplies 5v on to the FC 5v line which then powers up the FC and the R9mini and the 3rd wire connects to the R9mini Support pad?
That's interesting way of solving the problem.😁 .Its a shame you cant use serial pass through when the FC is powered ,then just have the Support pad permanently wired to a spare Uart or soft serial connection...
@@pablofpv my taranis to the r9mini cable is connected from the taranis to 5v gnd and fport on my r9mini as shown in my other video at 3:50 ua-cam.com/video/AOWOxPo9A0g/v-deo.html
i like it to power the rx with the usb connection, so yes it's a shame that i can't use the passthrough update function.
Ach ja Thanks alot! This gives me confidence!
Cool video... did you kill your battery?
Almost :) i was able to recharge them, the next flights will show if they are still working.
Nice! Torban, thanks for sharing.
It looks so stable in your video. I have the R9M in my QX7S and the R9MM receiver on my quad and this week I had to experience a scary flyaway. I think the receiver didn't activate failsafe because the Betaflight log says that the quad has had signal but I wasn't able to control it anymore.
I don't know what happened because I tested failsafe several times before the flight and the quad would just turn off the motors when it looses signal. My failsafe is set to dump the quad. Anyone an idea what I can do? If someone was able to help me, I can provide the Betaflight blackbox log and the DVR footage.
Erwin did you use the fport firmware?
@@TorbanDallas Yes that's true. I changed back to SBUS ans SPort and since then I haven't experienced similar problems again. I also did an update to OpenTX 2.2.3 stable.
This looks to good to be true. I'm sick of the LBT firmware failsafes and unreliable rssi. Flex here we come.
Goofy _fpv did you see my frsky r9m troubleshooting video? Maybe you did something wrong.
Torban Dallas I’ll watch it tonight 👍
hello Torban thanks for the video very helpful for a starter like me!
i have a taranis x9d pl/ se R9M eu module /and R9mm eu receiver
With the help of your video, updating the transmitter and mudule was successful without problems
My question is; can I flash the receiver with only a connection between transmitter and receiver without further connection to a drone?
Have not yet made a choice in what I am going to try to build
have only been working on this for two weeks
Thank you in advance for your response
Wr Henk (fr Holland)
Thank you! I appreciate it! Of course you can flash the receiver only connected to the Taranis smart port.
@@TorbanDallas thanks Torban will try and keep practicing on the simulator in the meantime
Wr Henk
hello Torban I am looking for the connection on the r9mm from bottom to top on transmitter yellow / black / red on the reciever from bottom to top yellow (s port) / black (ground) /red(v in)hope thats right fore flashing the r9mm? Wr Henk
@@henkrook4980 hey check my other videos there I'm showing it very detailed.
It's very helpful. Why did you have so many sats in the second flight and so few in the first?
Jonathan Genua i don't know. Two different quad with the same gps module and the same settings...
Good video. Thank you for the info.
Thanks for the great help in your video's, One question , do you install 180926 and 190117 or just 190117?
always the same firmware on your module and your receiver! Never use different versions!
Just to be clear , can I just install 190117 as the file size is much smaller than 180926? also the latest version for r9mm is 190201??
@@lloydhutchinson9848 the different version numbers are confusing at the latest firmware release, but it's the same firmware with the same update time. Only install the latest firmware on your r9 and your r9mm as shown in my video. Don't care about the file size, it's a zip file that contains different firmware files.
Thanks Torban . Great job.
Ist das etwa Schleswig-Holstein :P Da erkennt man heute wer morgen kommt.
Hehe, nein NRW.
RSSI seems to be more stable, but whats your conclusion, this Flex firmware got better than the last one?
Tuga Flyers with the flex beta firmware i haven't had any failsafe - to get a final conclusion it needs more test flights.
Hey Torben, danke für das Video. hätte da mal ne frage zu der flexfirmware. auf der frsky seite gibt es diesen reiter "flexfirware" nicht mehr. kann ich davon ausgehen, dass der 1 download unter "firmware" also die flexf. ist`?
Einfach mal runter laden, du bekommst dann eine Zip Datei die dann alle Firmware Version (fcc, EU, flex) enthält 😉
@@TorbanDallas hehe ja ich war gestern abend etwas banane als ich das geschrieben habe - hab ich mittlerweile auch auf dem rechner. hast du evtl noch die neuere version davon?`es gab doch mal ne version vom 24.09.2019 - auf der frsky seite gibts aber nur noch die versiuon vom 13022019. hast ne ahnung wieso die neuer ver rausgenommen wurde?
ach und vielen Dank für die schnelle Antwort!
thanks for this review
Hi! I know it is an old video, but maybe meanwhile you have more experience with r9 system. For Accst 2018 r9m and r9mm, what flex fw version has stable telemetry range? I have sensors lost randomly and frquently on r9mm, mini. Thx!
In my experience, the latest fw version works best. But always make sure to use the same firmware version on your rx and tx module.
Do we need to Flash ALL the available Firmware files to get ALL the benefits?....Or only one File, the latest.????
Im asking because the size of the available files are considerably different....and why would they not remove the older firmwares just leaving the latest ones on their Website?
It's confusing, why would they do that?
EnglishTurbines all the files? So you mean flashing all files step by step to the latest? No you don't have to do that. Just flash the latest one. The file size of the zip files are different because of the different containing files.
Hi again. i have purchased the x-lite pro and put flex firmware on the r9 module flashed with flex accees and i was wondering which mode do i use to bind R9MLP OR R9ML? I am using lbt does not give an option for flex on the setup menu. Thanks for any advice.
More details please, you probably self answering your question. You have a x-Lite, so you probably can't use a r9 (full size) module, you need the small one. R9Lite or R9Lite Pro. Like R9ML or R9MLP ... which one do you use?
Next make sure to use the latest opentx version on your radio and the latest frsky firmware for your module and receivers.
@@TorbanDallas worked it out, thanks for the reply, it is a r9 m-lite pro module, their names for things can be confusing, can see the spectrum analyzer in the tools but not the power meter?
HI you get some good speeds with your quads
Q: Do I need Flex in Australia, I know 915 meg ., have new in box R9M and rx with twin antennas plus super 8
this will my first longer range try.
Cheer's BF
Hi, no you don't need flex, you can use the FCC Firmware. Flex is like the FCC Firmware with the additional option of changing the frequency to 868Mhz for the EU.
@@TorbanDallas Thanks much for that BF
Hi TORBAN, I wonder if you may have any advice? I am running two separate quads using the r9 m lite module and two r9 mini both flex European firmware on official tx companion 2.2.3 firmware, both with the upgraded europeans antennas and the upgrade super 8 antenna on the module, both quads get about max range no more than 600m before rssi says critical, flying with no obsticals also the receivers bound at 100mw, I should be getting more range than this? Any advice appreciated.
quadthing copter did you see my frsky r9m failsafe troubleshooting video? Check the advices in my video. Make sure to install the same firmware version on your r9 module and your receiver. Bind your receiver new after flashing. I have also made a test flight with only 10mw over 2km.
@@TorbanDallas Thanks, Turned out it was a faulty module, one of the first batch with a resistor missing, replaced the module, did a 3k round trip, very pleased. you can view the flight on my channel. Thanks.
Hello. What determines if it is 868mhz or 900mhz. is it firmware? Or the antenna? or the module? I'm thinking of buying this from banggood. Living in europe so must use 868mhz. But how do I know what I get?
mrtokyo1989 doesn't matter what you get. If you have got your r9m module and your receiver you just need to flash the module and the receiver to the eu lbt or the flex firmware. You also need the 868 tx and rx antennas. The stock antennas are crap.
Hi. I have a Matek F411 board and R9 slim plus receiver. Can you help me with how to wire this.and setup on the Inav. Do i use the S-port from receiver to s-bus on the FC? or TX1 ? I have flashed R9m module and the receiver with the newest flex firmware.
Well, you need 5v, Gnd and SBUS_OUT on your R9 Slim to the SBUS / RX Solderpad on your FC. Then you can even solder the S.Port wire to an S.port / TX on your FC for Telemetry.
Its working now :) I used the sport from the receiver to the sbus pin on the FC. :D i haven't check the telemetry yet. I have the r9 slim plus receiver.
Thanks...They have now released Open TX 2.2.3.....Im going to try updating my Firmware to Flex now. I removed my 868mhz R9MM RX and now the firmware looks a lot more stable to try giving it another go.
I have the 868mhz Tru-Mox TX antenna....How did you find yours..?....Did it work okay for you..?
Can you fit a 4000mah Lipo and fly it out to 4kms now..?
EnglishTurbines yes opentx 2.2.3 is officially released now ☺️ i liked the true mox 868 but until i have got the Super 8 868 eu version i don't use my true mox anymore. I don't think that i can fly 4km and also 4km back with a 4000mah battery. I will try 1800 and 2000mah batteries soon. I'm trying to be back with making flight videos at the end of February.
I can easily fly for 4 kms on a 1500mah 4S....I dont think my motors are as greedy as yours though...?
2 kms is not long range.... you know that yes..?
EnglishTurbines of course, it's not really long range. It's just as long as i can fly with my setup. I'm interested how far i can fly with new batteries.
Moin torban danke fürs Video welche fc würdest du aktuelle verbauen für long range...🤔
jhitmann Hulk hi danke, ich glaub ich würde aktuell einen dalrc oder foxeer f722 verbauen. Die fcs haben einen f4 und f7 an Bord. Dann kannst du wahlweise beide ausprobieren.
Super. Signalstärke so wie bei mir ohne Failsafe . Habe aber erst 2 Testflüge nach dem Update gemacht, da es bei uns zuviel Schnee hat. Habe diesmal ein gutes Gefühl aber dennoch glaube ich, dass man TX und RX Antennen besser tunen könnte. Habe aber kein Spectrum Analyzer. Soweit sogut. Frage: hast Du alle Sensoren der Telemetrie oder nur RSSI und RXbat?. Ich habe im FC Telemetrie nicht aktiviert.
Stefan Kellenberger ja es braucht noch ein paar Flüge, habe aber auch ein gutes Gefühl. Ich habe nur rssi und rxbat. Sonst nichts. Alles andere steht ja im Osd ☺️
@@TorbanDallas genau so sehe ich das auch. Gut Flug.
Ich hatte die Woche ein Flyaway, obwohl ich mein Failsafe vor dem Flug mehrfach getestet habe. Laut dem Betaflight Log hat der Empfänger Signal gehabt, aber ich konnte nicht mehr steuern. Ich weiß ehrlich gesagt nicht was los war, weil ich es nach dem Crash nochmal probiert habe und da hat failsafe funktioniert, als die Fernbedienung Signal verloren hat.
Ich habe gerade versucht mein Problem auf Englisch zu schildern und dann gesehen, dass es hier glücklicherweise noch mehr Deutsche gibt.
Hat irgendwer einen schlauen Tipp, was da los war? Ich hab noch einen Betaflight Log und die DVR-Aufnahme.
Erwin uh das klingt ja gruselig. Aber du hast deinen Copter ja offensichtlich wieder gefunden. Wie sind deine Failsafe Einstellungen in Betaflight? Kontaktiere mich mal auf Facebook, dann können wir dem Problem besser nachgehen.
@@TorbanDallas Danke für das Angebot. Habe mich gerade bei Facebook angemeldet und dich mal angeschrieben, allerdings heiße ich dort anders.
Torban - can you help me? I have just started with R9 system. Ive flown maybe 5 flights on my source 1 - R9MM, matekF405CTR. Ive had a lot of failsafes - sometimes I get **** in the OSD. The quad kind of locks (getting no more receiver inputs) and then drops. Ive also had very brief momentary losses of connection, where you see the quad jerk/bump for a moment. I fact it's just locking again - and then you regain control. Im running the latest formwares on both R9 module and RX. Running the flex firmware, and 500mw, powered by external battery on QX7. Question: Have you had to debug any of these issues, and if you have, what did you do? Thanks for your time :)
Let me guess, you are using the f.port firmware?
@@TorbanDallas you got it - yes I am. fport seemed like a good idea. Perhaps not?
@@charlietait1 Yes f.port is not only a good idea, in most cases, it's the best idea if you want to experience Failsafes every 20 seconds and every 10meteres. It's new, most people never heard about it bevor, so it must be something special, it must be good. Let's use it even when we don't know what it does.
I really don't understand why so many people are using f.port. Just use one more wire to your FC and stay with s.port. Where's the benefit? Saving one wire? But getting Failsafes? Stop using f.port firmware and i promise, all of your issues will be gone. On some quads f.port works solid, but on many quads, it doesn't. It seems to be depending on the Flight Controller.
@@TorbanDallas Thanks so much. That could explain why it's happening a lot on one quad (matek f405ctr) and not on the other (brain radix). I'll redo everything with sbus and go from there. Also I found your helpful video on r9 debugging... Thanks for sharing your experiences.
So many firmware its so annoying ahaha but thank you , for your vidéo its very helpful
Thanks for your comment! Well, there's three kinds of firmware versions for the r9m available: A FCC Firmware for everyone outside the EU, an EU Firmware for flying in the EU and the Flex Firmware - with the Flex Firmware you can set the ouput Frequency to the FCC 915MHz or to 868MHz for the EU. You're even free to set the output power of your R9M Module.
And at last, you always should use the newest Firmware.
hi do you have video guide on how to install r9 mini using sbus on f4 flight controller
Well, I have very detailed FPV Quadcopter Build + Setup Videos on my channel - there you will see how to connect a FrSky Receiver to a flight controller and even how to set it up.
What is the FLEX firmware? What's it for? Why should it be considered over the other firmwares?
David Hannigan Jr. Flex it's almost the same firmware as the fcc firmware, but you can change the frequency from 915MHz to 868MHz for the EU. So it's better for the EU Users. The EU LBT firmware is limited to 25mW or 500mW without telemetry.
You run EU LBT version of R9M right? It's 1 watt output now with newer firmware?
No, i'm running Flex Firmware on 868MHz as mentioned in the video titel and the description.
@@TorbanDallas Yes, I saw on website it says 1w now but unspecified if its for EU version. And I am wondering if you use EU hardware and what output power in general 😂
@@peterpunch1 there's no eu hardware, it's only the software.
@@TorbanDallas aha! that clears things up, thanks 👍
Hello Torban, I have been watching all your clips on the r9 system, I've got mine up and running with 2.2.3 and flex firmware, I've flown out to about a km with 100mw. However I have discovered that I can now not bind to my XM+ receiver in another quad.... Have you any ideas how I can get the tx and rx to communicate again? Thanks in advance for any help. I'm stumped.
Shish FPV do you have the internal xjt or eu lbt module? Maybe you have flashed your taranis to the wrong firmware. Or did you even accidentally try to bind your xmplus with the external r9m? You still need to bind your internal module with the xmplus. I'm just thinking about possible mistakes. Please tell me more details about what you did.
@@TorbanDallas Thanks for getting back to me so quicky. Its and internal LBT, when I try to bind to the XM+ now I get the two sold lights on the receiver so Im guessing its a firmware mis-match. Im not entirely sure what I have done?
Shish FPV which firmware are you running on your xmplus? For binding your press the bind button and you keep it pressed, then you power your quad and you try to bind your internal rf with the xmplus? And it worked before but it doesn't work anymore since your have flashed opentx 2.2.3? I still can bind my receiver. Maybe you also have to check the eu flag in the companion settings... But i didn't do it and it works. Did you also change the receiver numbers so that you don't use a number twice or more times?
@@TorbanDallas Im using the latest LBT 16 channel with RSSI on the XM+. As per a UA-cam clip from your good self
On my transmitter my OTX Bootloader - 2.2.3 and my FW: X7 - 2.2.3 (ae5ac05b)
The XM+ was previously bound and worked no issues its since I updated to 2.2.3. No matter what I do I cant get it to communicate now.
I will have a look i the companion settings see if that sheds any light.
Im still a novice with the Frsky..... its a steep learning curve.
Torban Dallas Thanks for your help, I got it sorted eventually, turns out I had managed to flash my internal module with a random download? (One of the points you mentioned.) I'm not sure how I managed to achieve such a feat however no harm done in the long run....
Is using fport instead of sbus going to get me out any further? Is using the flex firmware for g to improve the flight?
No fport won't get you out further. The flex firmware doesn't improve your flight, it just offers the ability to change the frequency between EU and FCC and the output power as well. But if you're living outside the EU you don't get any benefits out of the flex firmware
@@TorbanDallas thank you
god pleased you. welldone
You really need to increase cell warning voltage, 14.0V and 2km out is a disaster for the battery :)
Ivan Novak even 11.4 V on my last flights. I know i'm killing my batteries 😂
Friend
Do you no if I can use the module with the Turnigy 9XR radio with DEFAULT FIRMWARE? Or do I have to FLASHED TO OPENTX?
rcflight asa sry i don't know how to use the r9m with the turnigy.
@@TorbanDallas
thank you
Does the opentx 2.2.4 work for flex and standard r9m firmwares? And if it does, do we still use nightly builds?
opentx 2.2.4 isn't officially released yet, you only can download a nightly build of it. But there's no reason to use opentx 2.2.4.But there's also no need to worry, Flex and r9m will work with opentx 2.2.4 - it's a newer version so it contains all the features of 2.2.3 and some addidional ones. Download 2.2.3 and don't select the nightly build option in companion.
I even have created a video about flashing opentx and i have mentioned in the video description that it's not nessessary any more to use a nightly build because 2.2.3 is offically released now.
Torban Dallas excellent, thank you for that info... I have been using 2.2.2 and haven’t installed the r9m but it’s all flashed and ready. Went to update opentx and noticed the 2.4 version so I skipped 2.2.3
Hi Torban, do you know whether the following combination is possible: x-lite with non-eu firmware and R9 lite with 868 Mhz? Thanks!
X-lite with non eu fw? You mean opentx without checking the eu option?
thanks for your reply. Exactly, opentx fcc in combination with 868 Mhz. But yes, it should be possible. I found the answer in another video.
@@monsieur7246 with the flex firmware, you don't need to check the EU Option. If you want to use the EU LBT Firmware on your R9 System than you maybe need to check this option. I never tried it by myself: I'm using the Flex Firmware from the first day.
Hi. i have just installed the official 2.2.3 updates to my x-lite radio and installed the flex firmware Eu to my module and receivers but i have not got the option to change 100mw with telemetry as it states you can do with flex firmware, the only option is telemetry using 25mw? any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
quadthing copter did u check the flex option in companion as shown in my video about? But u don't need to select nightly Builds.
Thanks for the reply, which of your videos has the advice for the flex options in companion
quadthing copter the linked video in the description...
ok thanks got it
What’s the board on the end of your update cable please.
A simple connector that I have cut out of an old flight controller
What is the card that you attach to taranis when updating the Receiver (R9Mini) ?? (time 2:42) do I have to have it to make such an update? Please answer. if so give a link to this
ChrisRC_FPV Haha, I was waiting for someone to ask this question 😂 This is not a card. It's just the female plug matching to the male plug on my r9mini. I didn't have the female plug so i have literally cutted that plug out of an old flight controller. It's just a plug connection between both cable ends, nothing else.
@@TorbanDallas Recessed into raspberries: D What people will not come up with;) The patent beats the patent
ChrisRC_FPV Either you are a native speaker or you translated this phrase with the raspberries with the help of a translation tool. Anyway, i have never heard that phrase with the raspberries, but it's funny 😂
@@TorbanDallas it's a Polish proverb
'bring someone out into raspberries'
I used google translate, of course ;]
Polish proverbs are always fun;)
@@TorbanDallas Now the question ... is it worth to buy receiver r9 mini frsky or R-XSR? I'm hesitant because I'm looking for a second receiver for another drone. Should I go in the direction 2.4ghz or 900mhz? Or it may have two different ones installed, so that in the event of a failure you can save the plane, drone, etc
Hey, ich habe eine Frage: Ich möchte auf mein R9M modul die Flex Firmware flashen, wenn ich allerdings im Opentx Companion "FlexR9m" auswähle, kann ich nicht mehr "EU" auswählen. Dies ist ein Problem, den ich nutze meine Taranis X9D auch mit dem internen Sendemodul. Was kann ich tun?
Ja richtig EU macht dann keinen Sinn mehr. Du flashed ja nicht das interne EU LBT Modul deiner Taranis. Alles andere klappt wie bisher. Du kannst dann zusätzlich sogar noch den D8 Modus beim internen RF einstellen.
Torban Dallas Soviel ich weiss, sendet aber dann das interne Modul auf einer illegalen Frequenz, wenn beim Companion nicht EU ausgewählt worden ist. D8 ist ja in der EU auch verboten.
@@mrrose832 mh ne das interne EU LBT lässt sich nicht flashen. Das geht nicht mehr. Bei mir läuft auf jeden Fall alles problemlos. Meine XM+ und rxsr Receiver sind alle EU geflashed. Fcc Firmware funktioniert nicht
@@TorbanDallas jetzt verstehe ich - danke! Ich wundere mich allerdings, weshalb ich Opentx für non EU auf einem Sender mit EU XJT Modul laufen lassen kann...
@@mrrose832 OpenTx ist die Firmware für deine Taranis, nicht für das interne Sendemodul. Non EU gibt dir einfach nur die Möglichkeit auch den D8 Modus zu nutzen. Mit openTx flashed du ja auch nicht dein R9M - OpenTx gibt dir nur die Einstellmöglichkeiten für das R9M frei. Dein R9M musst du ja auch eigenständig mit der passenden FW flashen. Früher gab es wohl nur ein XJT Modul das man auf EU oder non EU flashen konnte. Seitdem es aber die XJT und EU-LBT Module gibt, geht das wohl nicht mehr. Im Detail habe ich mich damit aber auch noch nie auseinander setzen müssen.
hey torban. After the last firmware update the rssi seems to be corrected. so now its wrong in the osd since I changed it in an early firmware . Do you know the Stock numbers for the rssi scaling? I have no idea what it was. thanks
Are you talking about the RSSI on the RSSI Output of Channel 16? Default values are rssi_scale = 100 and rssi_offset = 0
Yup. Thanks a lot ✌
Sorry to bother you. Buy is there anything else i have to change in the cli when going over to crossfire.
I changed the scale and offset back but i still got wrong rssi number in my osd.
@@Victor90NOR i don't own crsf and didn't test it. Why did you skip to crsf?
Okey. I just found it alot easier with the firmware updates and stuff.
But as of now i dont like it better than the r9.
Did we change the rss_osd_poss or any othe values for the r9?
I have 99 rssi on my controller and 49 in the goggles so just wondered if there was any other changes made. I cant remember 🙈
Irgendwelche Unterschiede? Konnte meinen Flieger noch nicht mit der neuen Firmware testen, da das Wetter sehr schlecht ist. Ich habe gelesen, dass die RSSI Darstellung verbessert worden ist.
Das Wetter ist hier nicht besser :D Spaß macht das Fliegen bei den aktuellen Temperaturen nicht. Als ich das letzte mal fliegen wollte habe ich mich auf dem matschigen Feld sogar festgefahren - aus dem Fliegen wurde dann eine Auto Bergungsaktion. Zum Testen der neuen Firmware habe ich mich dann aber doch mal rausgequält. Ich habe so einen Taranis Handschuh: www.banggood.com/Upgraded-Transmitter-Warm-Hand-Glove-Cover-Shield-Winter-Outdoor-Flying-For-Flysky-Frsky-DJI-p-1119505.html?p=LM11044296190201604E
Anders klappt das Fliegen bei den Temperaturen gar nicht mehr.
Im Vergleich zu meinen anderen Videos und Flügen kann ich eigentlich keinen Unterschied in der RSSI Darstellung feststellen. RSSI Wert sieht gleich aus, auch beim RSSI Output auf Kanal 16 hat sich nichts geändert, daher habe ich auch das Scaling etwas angepasst.
Von Standardmäßig rssi_scale = 100 und rssi_offset = 0
auf rssi_scale = 73 und rssi_offset = 27
Auch nicht optimal aber so stimmt es in dem Bereich 50 - 60 %Rssi ziemlich genau mit dem Telemetry Wert überein.
So ist der geringste RSSI Wert aber nicht mehr 0 sondern 27 und dann wird eben in 73 Schritten von 27 bis 100 skaliert.
Wäre dennoch schön gewesen, wenn FrSky den Rssi Output auf dem Kanal 16 angepasst hätte.
@@TorbanDallas
So, leider wieder kein Erfolg mit der F.Port Variante. Ich vermute, dass die verbauten servos irgenwelche Interferenzen erzeugen und so das F.Port Signal stören. Ich bin jetzt wieder auf die SBUS Variante umgeschwenkt, welche ohne Probleme funktioniert.
@@waldemarkraus2855 Welche Probleme hattest du genau mit der f.port Version? Ich bin aber auch bei sbus geblieben, einerseits weil ich schon so oft von Problemen mit der fport version gehört habe wie bspw. Verzögerungen und Failsafes, und anderseits weil ich es einfach nicht brauch. Alles Infos stehen im OSD, ich brauch nicht einmal Telemetrie.
@@TorbanDallas
Ich bekomme immer wieder Failsafes obwohl der rssi Wert bei über 60 liegt. Teilweise komme ich aus dem Failsafes nicht mehr raus ohne die Taranis neu zu starten, der Empfang ist dabei stets gut und auch die Telemetrie funktioniert. Es liegt definitiv am F.Port weil mit der SBUS FW geht alles. Evtl gibt es hier noch irgendwelche Bugs in INAV, aber das Developer Team hat mich auf Frsky verwiesen und meinte dass der Fehler bei denen liegt.
@@TorbanDallas
Noch ein wenig Input zur aktuellen Flex Firmware. Ich habe meine Antenne nun horizontal in den Flügel platziert und konnte heute 10km mit 100mw erreichen ohne FS, rssi war bei 38, d.h. hier ist noch Luft nach oben. Das ganze sogar mit Telemetrie!!
How did you got the rssi scale and offset values 73,27?
with testing and comparing to the rssi telemetry value ...
Mate the OpenTX 2.2.3 is a nightly build still right?
M TECHTips no, now they have released the official version of opentx 2.2.3. So you don't need to flash the nightly Build anymore.
Can i still use my LBT antenna's on module and RX when i switch to FCC ?
Well, you can but I wouldn't do it. For fcc you better use tuned to 915mhz antennas.
I think it's time for you to buy some new Lipos Torban....lol.....2mins into the flight @ 14vdc..?
EnglishTurbines i'm considering to test the new tattu rline 3.0 1800 and 2000mah soon.
How you activate FLEX for video? Please help me.
activate? Pls check this and my other videos about the Flex Firmware, I'm showing how to flash your transmitter, receiver, module and how to set it up.
What is the difference between flex 💪 firmware and just firmware? 🥊
Flex firmware is like the 915MHz FCC Firmware, but you can switch between 915 and 868MHz. I have made an other video about the Flex firmware, there you can see it.
Do you have link for that video? Thx. Great videos.
@@zoom4zam Yes, you will find it if you read the video description, or if you watch this video till the end, there is also linked my other video about the flex firmware.
Moin Torban,
habe gestern auch mal 3 Akkus mit der 181228 flex getestet und 0 failsafes gehabt, sonst ja immer 1-3 pro Akku.
Sieht so aus als hätten sie es endlich geschafft :)
Vorhin nochmal einen getestet, aber bei 250m aufgegeben, erster Flug aus einem Auto mit beheizter Frontscheibe, kann ich nicht empfehlen, Video wird da schon so schlecht, rssi vom r9 aber immer noch gut.
Sch... kalt und es nieselt, mal gucken wie das Wetter morgen wird.
Das sind doch gute Neuigkeiten :) Aus dem Auto fliegen haben ich noch nicht ausprobiert. Ich benutze diesen Taranis Handschuh www.banggood.com/Upgraded-Transmitter-Warm-Hand-Glove-Cover-Shield-Winter-Outdoor-Flying-For-Flysky-Frsky-DJI-p-1119505.html?p=LM11044296190201604E&cur_warehouse=CN
Funktioniert ganz gut wenn die Funke einmal drin ist. Bei dem Wetter geh ich eigentlich nur raus zum Fliegen, wenn ich etwas testen will. Berichte mal weiter, wie es mit der neuen Flex bei dir funktioniert, wäre ja schön wenn die Failsafe Probleme endlich gelöst sind :)
@@TorbanDallas Den Handschuh habe ich auch, hat aber so genieselt, da hatte ich kein Bock draußen zu stehen und die Brille nass zu machen.
Normalerweise funktioniert das aus dem Auto fliegen ganz gut, aber wohl durch die beheizte Frontscheibe bei dem Auto nicht.
Habe zu den Handschuh noch die Bosch heat jacket an :)
@@SchonRichtig gerade mal gegoogelt, die Jacke kannte ich gar nicht :) Und taugt die was? Beheizte Frontscheibe, dass gibt's doch nur bei Ford oder? ;)
@@TorbanDallas Die Jacke ist der Hammer! :)
Beheizte Frontscheibe gibt es glaube ich auch bei skoda/vw
Open TX 2.2.3 ist jetzt offiziell draußen
can i know how much yout tilt kamera fpv thanks
Abdul Fpv around 35 to 40 degrees.
Frsky's tragedy has released mass updates for flex. All are mixed up for downloadable tabs (r9 with r9 lite, r9mm, r9 slim etc). This is a brothel! What should I download for r9m and r9mm? I have to download each in turn and overwrite? Nothing is described; / i think that a not decent company. Do not download anything new and download only what you?
OpenTX 2.2.3 now officially released. Thank you Torban for your contributions. www.open-tx.org/downloads.html
You can actually use the pins on the back of the module instead of removing it :)
Edit: It seems you can't do it actually, at least not with x9d radio :(
thanks, i'm not sure about that, the pin layout is different to the layout on the module bay. And i actually i don't know what's happening when you flash an external device, does it flash the r9m or the connected receiver? The pins on the r9m are made to flash the r9m with a connector cable from the bottom pins on a Taranis QX7. I even thought about to flash the receiver with the r9m pins as i was making this video - but i didn't try it because i was not sure if it's really made for this. I think i would need the 3 right pins, on top sport, followed by voltage and gnd.
@@TorbanDallas It is same as Taranis Q X7 default port, the module just passes the signal from the pins inside. You can select 'Flash using s.port' in the menu and it will activate :)
@@dweight1990 A i see, so it's the pin layout of the qx7. Where can i set "Flash using s.port" ? If i don't set it, it would flash my r9m? On my video you see, that there isn't this option. I really don't want to risk to flash the receiver firmware to my r9m - so i think my way was the savest way. But if it also works with the r9m i think it's worth to try it.
@@TorbanDallas Just put the module inside, connect the rx and press enter on the radio when selecting the firmware, it should automatically detect the connection and put this option among others. This way you will not flash the internal or external module.
For information, I use "Flash using s.port" when i flash my r9m and my r9mm with the bottoms pins of my qx7 and it's ok . I do not have adaptive mode while i am under open tx 2.2.3N685, i do not understand. I think there are differents versions of open tx according to qx7 or qx9d
Any particular reason for not using fport?
Vincent Fischer i don't need it and i have heard about issues with the fport firmware. Try the fport firmware, if you have some issues with it go back to the sbus firmware
@@TorbanDallas I'm using the fport firmware! And I have weird failsave like things happen that I don't have on another build where I use sbus. I'll try the sbus version on the problematic quad today. But if that would be the case I would loose a bit more confidence in using frsky gear because they don't have a single competent μC guy in their company it seems as this would totally be a software mistake on their end (how long is thenR9 system on the market?? how can stuff like this happen). Danke für den tipp
Vincent Fischer please let me know when the sbus firmware solved the failsafes on your quad with the fport firmware.
R9 mini. Only 38 rssi value. Anyone know why? Thanks
what are you talking about? more informations please!
I have the flex firmware. Newest version on both tx and rx.
868 antenna on the TX.
Original antenna on RX.
I have 100db RsSI value on the taranis but only 38-39 in the osd from betaflight.
If I leave it for a few minutes with the battery connected it suddenly gets rx loss and I have to reconnect the battery for the quad.
I have tried several times but I always get 38 RSSI
@@Victor90NOR so you are using the rssi output on channel 16 of the r9 rx? It's scaled wrong that's why i have changed the scaling. I even mentioned my settings in the video description.
You should also take a look at my FrSky r9m troubleshooting video!
Thanks. So just set rssi channel too 16 and change the value settings in cli? Will this fic the rx loss problem also? 😊
@@Victor90NOR No, to fix your rxloss problem you should take a look at my failsafe troubleshooting video ua-cam.com/video/wXe1aNpepZg/v-deo.html ...
Your lipo is dead ! less 12 volt for a 4 S 🤔
Haha, yes almost dead. I was recharging it to around 3,7 volts per cell quickly after that flight to keep it alive.
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Hello. You use an piece beteween receiver and rádio when flash... what is that?
A simple wire with a connector...
@@TorbanDallas thanks
what is the change you did in the rssi scale?
Kako_FPV read the video description 😉