To be fair, the centuries in limbo have stopped Dumah from devolving into some monstrosity with a dumb weakness... just think about it: Melchiah became an amalgamation of corpses who needed a meat grinder in his own room to help him grind down his victims, Zephon became permanently stuck in a room in his own fortress, Rahab became even more vulnerable to sunlight to the point that he couldn't even survive in open areas, and Turel became blind and vulnerable to sound because of his enhanced hearing. Meanwhile, Dumah... just got bigger.
This is what happens with strict materialists. It's a spiritual sort of strength Dumah is talking about. Has nothing to do with muscles. That's like saying Raziel can't possibly push those heavy blocks with those slim arms of his.... :P
And yet, he is actually the strongest of the bethren you face off. You can't even weaken him in any way, just run away as fast as you can before he gets you.
Raziel has become a cheff in this game. Before devouring their souls, he grinds up Melchiah, cooks Zephon, boils Rahab and roasts Dumah. Only Turel got away. For now.
Top with fresh lettuce, juicy tomatoes, and tangy bb-q sauce just a 1.75$. Ah raziel? yes? you got some sauce on your face. I know. the otherside raziel. I hope i'am done before this day is done.
Turel was originally going to be in the game - Kain was originally going to bestow the 'Shift at Will' ability, allowing Raziel to shift from the spectral realm without needing a conduit, and Turel's area was a sort of industrial super center. Screen shots of it can actually be seen in some early previews in gaming magazines. It was taken out when it became clear they would need a sequel to wrap up the story.
I'll never forget the chills i had when Dumah got near me.I still have the original cd in my bookcase even if it's filled with scratches and my computer gets stuck every time i place it in.At that time Crystal Dynamics knew some sh*t to make such a great game.
The "constrict" ability - lets Raziel run in circles around an object or enemy to manipulate them - rotate a dial, for example. Mostly useless except to get through areas that require it.
I really don't know for sure if this is my favourite, but there's something charming in this game that the sequels doesn't have... in spite of their tehnologycal improvements... I do believe that the argument in combination with the athmosphere and the highly retoric dialogues can be the key in the mystic of this game.
Here's a nice little bit of info. Dumah is voice by Simon Templeman as well as his voicing of Kain. Obviously they altered the voice clip to sound slightly different, but you can definitely hear Templeman's voice behind it.
This shows Raziel is sporting. He could have devoured Dumah's soul while he was shackled, but instead he freed him. The one power you never use beyond this game.
he couldnt even fi the thought crossed his mind its shown that the creatures that live in the spectral realm that have a form, project a sort of "shell" protecting this form from other soul predators. Raziel has this, this is why creatures like sluagh cannot consume him, and wraiths had to damage this shell 1st before draining him. Dumah is much the same as a wraith but much more powerful. He had to be trapped in his physical form again to be evne be possible ot kill him.
The ruined City (this area) really makes me think of Janos' Retreat. Especially at 3:32, with the opening and the graceful archways. The scale of both places just seems so open, and large, even when you're in closed spaces. I wonder if this was once a city for ancient vampires...
the reason whyhe stopped following him/or her is because they were going the wrong way. Dumah stops and waits for you to go the right way. If oyu go the wrong way or too far away, he will reset back to his chamber.That;s one of the reasons he was my favorite, smart AI
I agree with the consensus that Dumah is the coolest brother. And yes, he gives you the lamest power. A shockwave/groundstomp would've been cool, but most of Raziel's other abilities are about overcoming environmental hazards. Also, this video reminded me of how awesome Raziel's throwing abilities are. Gravity is SOO overrated. ;)
+Slixer Kain is about as impervious as Dumah. When you play as Kain, they can't make him invulnerable, but Kain said that only the Soul Reaver can truly kill him. So, in lore, he's certainly more powerful than Dumah. Especially if you decide to give him the magic powers he had in the first game, which he inexplicably lost and never regained. Probably because many of his powers were just way too good.
A Soul Reaver remake where the boss flights are improved. For Dumah battle, he got 2 phases of fight; first you have to impale him with several spears in his own room in order to advance to the last phase where you lure him to chase you so that you can get in the chamber where you can torch him to finish, but again, you still have to impale him with a spear provided there are some spears around the chamber in order to stun him in the center where he can be barbecued finally.
If I remember correctly, you can actually meet Dumah in the Spectral Realm before you attempt to bring him back to life by removing the ballistae impaling him, just by shifting to Spectral in front of the throne. I can't remember if this immediately instigates the fight within the Spectral Realm instead of the Material or not, but it's interesting to note. I really need to find my Soul Reaver cd...one of the best games there is. Only vampires I really like, too!
"Not even Kain is my equal"? and the power he gets from Dumah is the ability to make astral strings? What his Super Human strength? Woulda nice to see Raziel throwing Boulders around like a Basketball.
@Joudas the whole reason for the constrict ability was that the developers hads trouble developing an animation for turning certain objects, so they developed the constrict ability instead. by the timne of soul reaver 2 though, they had overcome that problem, so they got rid of the ability.
@ariel pirangy Dumah exists in the spectral realm not as a wandering soul vulnerable to consumption by Raziel, but a powerful being trapped for centuries in the spectral realm.
It was actually a joke, I know your videos are directly story-related. xD And on that note thanks for uploading them, it's great to see some of the best LoK moments. ^_^
@Reingnus Was probably more than a few hunters, the whole thing hinted at a rather large fight between the hunters and dumah, and ballista's can do rather terrible things to even big guys like dumah
Damn Dumah was arrogant as hell lol. Even thinking he was greater than Kain. Kain would have mopped the floor with him(far to slow to stand against Kain for one). And for two Kain has more powers than he does.
@Reingnus He may be physically weaker, but in reality he can't die, if his physical body dissolves, he goes spectral, if his spectral self "dies"... he returns to the Elder God. So he is in the true sense... immortal, no Game Over in this game lol
@samael316 I actually had a seperate video of that dialog, but it got corrupted, and I had already overwritten the save :| Didn't want to replay the entire game (again... I played through it 4 times to get these videos; the PC version doesn't behave well with recording software) just for that one clip.
How many ppl would love to see Soul Reaver 1 with Defiance Graphics? like a remastered version of the game :D, tho for Elder God they would hav to keep the same audio because the true god that Voiced him Passed away R.I.P Tony Jay . but still heres praying for a new game to the series
Dumah can follow you into the spectral realm can't he? I think I did that once unless I am just think of Melciha. It was a reasonable way to explain Turel's absence though in Defiance is all involving time travel.
the reaver is the only thing that can kill kain and Raziel has it, so the only one of can kill kain is him, just like the only one who can kill Raziel is kain because of the Reaver sword.
God i remember fighting Dumah, you know those giant statues at the beginning of the scene? I was scared witless so i climbed up those statues because i knew Dumah would not be able too, then i fired those shots at him, which did nothing but give me a great view of Dumah from above. Took me ages to figure out how to kill him properly, and i mean maybe an hour maybe more?
@punisherot Yeah except the characters in LOK are way more complex, and unlike Kratos, Raziel abandons his thirst for vengeance so that he may do the more righteous thing. I think the end of GOW3 kind of shows you where the vengeance route ends up taking you haha
@Syfa I am not so shure of that, one single strike of Raziel can blow away a vampire, and Dumah laught of every one of those hits... His armour was incredible strong. How a lance manipulated whit the force of a human can surpase that thing?
Chronologically, you're right - the young Kain encounters BO2 after BO. But storyline-wise, BO2 comes last - without the events of Defiance, BO2 could not have occurred. In the 'original' timeline (before Kain and Raziel fucked with it), BO2 did not happen.
i remember when i played this part and got hit so that i went into the spectral realm and i was like kool i can take a break here for a few like the other bosses right...well wrong. dumah bursts into the spectal realm gives me a fright and im like wtf lol..
@Morzall0055 Depends entirely on the computer's hardware. Generally speaking, yes. Honestly, though, the best way (graphically) to play it is on a PC using a Playstation emulator. Emulators allow for much better hardware acceleration than the original PC version of SR1 did, and it'll look much better that way.
"Not even Kain is my equal"
He says with the same voice actor ;)
the dialogues of this game are music to my ears
this game is so underrated and sad they didnt make a reboot of legacy of kain or soul reaver series!!
We needed this kind of clam haunted music!
Ecellence...
Ah yes, the centuries of sitting and allowing my muscles to atrophy has made me unimaginably strong... Prepare to face me!
Yeah something with regenerating wounds instantaneously as a vampire makes me doubt muscle atrophy is a thing for them
To be fair, the centuries in limbo have stopped Dumah from devolving into some monstrosity with a dumb weakness... just think about it: Melchiah became an amalgamation of corpses who needed a meat grinder in his own room to help him grind down his victims, Zephon became permanently stuck in a room in his own fortress, Rahab became even more vulnerable to sunlight to the point that he couldn't even survive in open areas, and Turel became blind and vulnerable to sound because of his enhanced hearing. Meanwhile, Dumah... just got bigger.
This is what happens with strict materialists. It's a spiritual sort of strength Dumah is talking about. Has nothing to do with muscles. That's like saying Raziel can't possibly push those heavy blocks with those slim arms of his.... :P
And yet, he is actually the strongest of the bethren you face off. You can't even weaken him in any way, just run away as fast as you can before he gets you.
Raziel has become a cheff in this game. Before devouring their souls, he grinds up Melchiah, cooks Zephon, boils Rahab and roasts Dumah. Only Turel got away. For now.
Play Defiance: You find out the he tenderized Turel
@@RealGateGuardian I've played it. Raziel eats tome nasty Hyldian souls in that game and gets food poisoning.
@@alexanderstilianov chef is the guy in a restaurant who makes foods, what's a cheff?
@alexanderstilianov its not food poisoning if he didn't puke
Centuries in limbo may have made him stronger, but weakened the hell out of his pathfinding...
Lmao
Grilled to perfection.
Top with fresh lettuce, juicy tomatoes, and tangy bb-q sauce just a 1.75$. Ah raziel? yes? you got some sauce on your face. I know. the otherside raziel. I hope i'am done before this day is done.
@@ericlandriault5748 Don't forget fresh tomato juice made out of Melciah extract, grinded to a pulp by Raziel 😂😂😂
@@daviddimalanta259 the ketchup is far beyond your reach raziel.
@@ericlandriault5748 🙂🙃🙂😂🤣
If you do shift to the spectral realm here, you can see Dumah's soul, and actually have a conversation with it. Neat little detail.
No why!!!
Its true
I wonder if it's like that for all of them.
@@ramgladore nah all the others are alive.
Did you know if you go to the spectral realm before you free him you talk to him there too?
Turel was originally going to be in the game - Kain was originally going to bestow the 'Shift at Will' ability, allowing Raziel to shift from the spectral realm without needing a conduit, and Turel's area was a sort of industrial super center. Screen shots of it can actually be seen in some early previews in gaming magazines. It was taken out when it became clear they would need a sequel to wrap up the story.
Turel can be seen on the last page of the instruction manual.
Dumah was amazing. Scary as hell and with no physical equal in the entire series.
Dumah’s location had the best music in the game
Best game ever.
I'll never forget the chills i had when Dumah got near me.I still have the original cd in my bookcase even if it's filled with scratches and my computer gets stuck every time i place it in.At that time Crystal Dynamics knew some sh*t to make such a great game.
The most pointless power in the whole game/Series (puzzle solving aside)
The "constrict" ability - lets Raziel run in circles around an object or enemy to manipulate them - rotate a dial, for example. Mostly useless except to get through areas that require it.
"These centuries in limbo have honed my strength, but I cannot run for shit".
I really don't know for sure if this is my favourite, but there's something charming in this game that the sequels doesn't have... in spite of their tehnologycal improvements... I do believe that the argument in combination with the athmosphere and the highly retoric dialogues can be the key in the mystic of this game.
I love DUMAH
My body was tense the entire time I watched that. I just kept thinking "OMG RUN! DON'T STOP! JUST RUN, DAMN YOU! HE GONNA SQUASH YOOOOU!"
This was probably the best boss fight in the game, won by wits and not by strength.
1:19 Now he says that he's stronger than Kain. Wow, how egomaniacal can one person get?
This was my favourite part of the game.
Here's a nice little bit of info. Dumah is voice by Simon Templeman as well as his voicing of Kain. Obviously they altered the voice clip to sound slightly different, but you can definitely hear Templeman's voice behind it.
i miss this game so much
This shows Raziel is sporting. He could have devoured Dumah's soul while he was shackled, but instead he freed him. The one power you never use beyond this game.
he couldnt even fi the thought crossed his mind
its shown that the creatures that live in the spectral realm that have a form, project a sort of "shell" protecting this form from other soul predators.
Raziel has this, this is why creatures like sluagh cannot consume him, and wraiths had to damage this shell 1st before draining him.
Dumah is much the same as a wraith but much more powerful. He had to be trapped in his physical form again to be evne be possible ot kill him.
The ruined City (this area) really makes me think of Janos' Retreat. Especially at 3:32, with the opening and the graceful archways. The scale of both places just seems so open, and large, even when you're in closed spaces.
I wonder if this was once a city for ancient vampires...
I always woner why 90s console characters fidget so much. Raziel is a soul junkie going through withdrawals
Best boss of the game. Dumah kicks ass
the reason whyhe stopped following him/or her is because they were going the wrong way. Dumah stops and waits for you to go the right way. If oyu go the wrong way or too far away, he will reset back to his chamber.That;s one of the reasons he was my favorite, smart AI
Dumah: Raziel prepare to die!...Dumah runs his final Marathon after being impaled and sitting by centuries.
I agree with the consensus that Dumah is the coolest brother. And yes, he gives you the lamest power. A shockwave/groundstomp would've been cool, but most of Raziel's other abilities are about overcoming environmental hazards.
Also, this video reminded me of how awesome Raziel's throwing abilities are. Gravity is SOO overrated. ;)
I wonder how true his claim is that he can beat Kain.
They do mention that Dumah is incredibly powerful, but also incredibly arrogant. It actually is a good question.
I would say that he is probably stronger than Kain, but he probably can't beat Kain.
+Slixer Kain is about as impervious as Dumah. When you play as Kain, they can't make him invulnerable, but Kain said that only the Soul Reaver can truly kill him. So, in lore, he's certainly more powerful than Dumah. Especially if you decide to give him the magic powers he had in the first game, which he inexplicably lost and never regained. Probably because many of his powers were just way too good.
He might be stronger than kain physically but Kain holds the Soul Reaver, the most powerful weapon in the story, which is why every vampire fears him.
i doubt DUMAH could make his boast a reality
Dumah was dumb af for going down to the giant oven.
aaaa if u go to the espectral realm before u deimpale dumah u get another piece of dialogue
not at all your the best god damn dad I've ever heard of in all my life.
A Soul Reaver remake where the boss flights are improved. For Dumah battle, he got 2 phases of fight; first you have to impale him with several spears in his own room in order to advance to the last phase where you lure him to chase you so that you can get in the chamber where you can torch him to finish, but again, you still have to impale him with a spear provided there are some spears around the chamber in order to stun him in the center where he can be barbecued finally.
You know, we need a video with the spectral dialogue.
If I remember correctly, you can actually meet Dumah in the Spectral Realm before you attempt to bring him back to life by removing the ballistae impaling him, just by shifting to Spectral in front of the throne. I can't remember if this immediately instigates the fight within the Spectral Realm instead of the Material or not, but it's interesting to note.
I really need to find my Soul Reaver cd...one of the best games there is. Only vampires I really like, too!
you a nfight him in spectral, but it ahicves nothing, he follows you ot the furnace if its ope neven but you cant end him
Dude what makes any game good isn't graphics, it's the story that makes it interesting.
such a scary game ^^
What you said made me laugh in a good way mate
This battle had the best music, it really conveyed the gothic menace of the game. I really wish to find the dumah battle music :)
this is one of my favorite boss battles in the game, talking to Dumah in the spectral realm is a little creepy.
How was it a lil creepy ?
Arghhh who would've thought adding a gas chamber in my own palace would be used against me. Oh the horror...dead
i totally agree before i fought him i never thought to go to the spectral realm
Dumah is so badass one punch to the ground cause the Earthquake
"Not even Kain is my equal"?
and the power he gets from Dumah is the ability to make astral strings?
What his Super Human strength? Woulda nice to see Raziel throwing Boulders around like a Basketball.
@Joudas the whole reason for the constrict ability was that the developers hads trouble developing an animation for turning certain objects, so they developed the constrict ability instead. by the timne of soul reaver 2 though, they had overcome that problem, so they got rid of the ability.
@ariel pirangy Dumah exists in the spectral realm not as a wandering soul vulnerable to consumption by Raziel, but a powerful being trapped for centuries in the spectral realm.
It was actually a joke, I know your videos are directly story-related. xD
And on that note thanks for uploading them, it's great to see some of the best LoK moments. ^_^
Nice video, I really like watching all your videos.
@Reingnus Was probably more than a few hunters, the whole thing hinted at a rather large fight between the hunters and dumah, and ballista's can do rather terrible things to even big guys like dumah
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!!!
man i remember playing SR when i was a kid. luv this game. if i could find it somewhere, id by a ps1 just to play it.
I wish I could see the spectral realm intro
I wonder what he would look like if his evolution had not been halted by his assassination?
www.google.pt/search?q=razielim+evolution&biw=1366&bih=643&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjzxLamnszQAhXBtxQKHdGzDXgQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=hkWKC99h9R4nMM%3A
i was reffering to dumah, but the 7th / 8th looks likely for raziel
@@puffythedestroyer8878 his devolution would have taken rhino like traits, according to Daniel Cabuco
@@bluesky8033 interesting
omfg when i saw him come at me in that hall i bout nearly pissed myself lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!
the only detail that i don't understand is why you don't find the last brother Turel... but you can fight against him vampires...
Damn Dumah was arrogant as hell lol. Even thinking he was greater than Kain. Kain would have mopped the floor with him(far to slow to stand against Kain for one). And for two Kain has more powers than he does.
mmmmm, mmmmmmm. Nothing beats roast vampire on a spit.
@Reingnus He may be physically weaker, but in reality he can't die, if his physical body dissolves, he goes spectral, if his spectral self "dies"... he returns to the Elder God. So he is in the true sense... immortal, no Game Over in this game lol
Kain bore raziel into the abyss
yep hehe but the first time he started chasing me and I couldn't do damage, it scared the shit out of me!
Yeah i remember... this fight was a little more tricky....
kool i loved this area of the game the music is excilent too
@samael316 I actually had a seperate video of that dialog, but it got corrupted, and I had already overwritten the save :| Didn't want to replay the entire game (again... I played through it 4 times to get these videos; the PC version doesn't behave well with recording software) just for that one clip.
Actually, it was indeed Dumah and Turel that both threw him in. lol.
Glad their making a reboot :J
How many ppl would love to see Soul Reaver 1 with Defiance Graphics? like a remastered version of the game :D, tho for Elder God they would hav to keep the same audio because the true god that Voiced him Passed away R.I.P Tony Jay . but still heres praying for a new game to the series
i loved playin this on dreamcast nown its on my psp go
Dumah can follow you into the spectral realm can't he? I think I did that once unless I am just think of Melciha. It was a reasonable way to explain Turel's absence though in Defiance is all involving time travel.
why I did not like was how long it took em to figure out how to kill Dumah just to have that lame power.
and that it was taken out on the next game.
haha just pulling the stakes tooke me FOREVER to figure out.
BO2 was set in betwen BO1 and SR1, but they only took place because of the dicking around with the fabric of time that happend.
and if you met him in souls world
He will have a different chat with him!
Still what was the mail thing for Raziel? To kill all if his brothers and give souls to his God who was from the beginning?
the reaver is the only thing that can kill kain and Raziel has it, so the only one of can kill kain is him, just like the only one who can kill Raziel is kain because of the Reaver sword.
God i remember fighting Dumah, you know those giant statues at the beginning of the scene? I was scared witless so i climbed up those statues because i knew Dumah would not be able too, then i fired those shots at him, which did nothing but give me a great view of Dumah from above. Took me ages to figure out how to kill him properly, and i mean maybe an hour maybe more?
that's what sucks about ol dumie, you can't tell when he is about to do his attack.
you are meant ot hear him rear his fist back, since this fight is not a melee brawl but a chase.
When i was 10 and played this game it gave me the creeps when running from him :/
Awesome game i reccomend it!
no hes not because the only thing the can kill kain is Raziel.
Yes he was.
Hands down the best looking game on the PS1. Even the Dreamcast which is far more powerful than a PS1 had this exact version.
@punisherot Yeah except the characters in LOK are way more complex, and unlike Kratos, Raziel abandons his thirst for vengeance so that he may do the more righteous thing. I think the end of GOW3 kind of shows you where the vengeance route ends up taking you haha
Entire purpose of the playthrough was getting the videos; I skipped all of the optional, non-story-related stuff.
I play this game in spanish, is excelent¡¡¡¡
You're video is very good :D
I hope they have some kind of Raziel restored feature. I want to play as him as a vampire.
@Syfa I am not so shure of that, one single strike of Raziel can blow away a vampire, and Dumah laught of every one of those hits... His armour was incredible strong. How a lance manipulated whit the force of a human can surpase that thing?
I personally think Raziel is my favourite
i need to play this game again soon...
@Wharwulif Malek* lol the only time Malek is spelled Malak is in KotOR 1 with Darth Malak
Chronologically, you're right - the young Kain encounters BO2 after BO. But storyline-wise, BO2 comes last - without the events of Defiance, BO2 could not have occurred. In the 'original' timeline (before Kain and Raziel fucked with it), BO2 did not happen.
You can't find Turel because he was a boss character in LOK Defience
i remember when i played this part and got hit so that i went into the spectral realm and i was like kool i can take a break here for a few like the other bosses right...well wrong. dumah bursts into the spectal realm gives me a fright and im like wtf lol..
@Morzall0055 Depends entirely on the computer's hardware. Generally speaking, yes. Honestly, though, the best way (graphically) to play it is on a PC using a Playstation emulator. Emulators allow for much better hardware acceleration than the original PC version of SR1 did, and it'll look much better that way.
I realize this is an 8 year old comment, but... emulate the Dreamcast version. Has the highest poly models and best textures.
Bought it a long time ago... I'm sure it's available on Amazon or ebay in that format, though.
the sound of his steps is ridiculous..
Deep fried vampire, anyone?
Turel is the strongest, next to Raziel. Hash ak'gig!
this is pingas!!!
xDDDD
is so hilarius
lol.... The A.I is so terrible sometimes in this vid ^^.... It's a bloody challenge just to get him to follow you lol
grat story ... wish that eidos do a remake of the lagacy of kain series ....