@@bigtuss7482 just shows how dangerous boxing actually is .. all these arm chair boxers who call people a coward for not going toe to toe with big punchers lol
I’ve seen some knockouts but can never recall seeing a boxer be that bad. I couldn’t believe the ref even started the count it was obvious he was sparked. To add hope he’s ok as he comes across like a great lad!
@@lordvadertheleftie9703Naz got me into watching boxing. He was the ultimate showboat but could back it up. Ben wants to showboat like Naz but has 1/10th of the talent.
I think hes too genuine. He probably did have that little thought coz we all doubt our own judgements when it comes to contests but we didnt need to know. I think hes genuine coz hes outspoken and cant help himself.
@@Jtggllkyhfff he is mate hes full of himself but i do think he most often means what he says and i cant bare the generic nonsense from most of the others.
Adam Smith is pointless on these. As much as we criticise Simon at least he has an opinion, Adam is always fence sitting. Fighters can and should be criticised when necessary, I hate this “I’m not a boxer so I can’t say anything negative” attitude from him
@@Pixiesforever7it is good for entertainment which is why most people are watching these clips. Yes for news and information also but i think mainly for entertainment
@Lu149 I couldn't agree more! What daft statement to make. Surely, to be worth anything as a pundit you must be able to communicate to the public what you see irrespective of whether you're a fighter or not. Translate that ridiculous statement to football - am I not able to have an opinion on how poor Harry Maguire has been for Man U because I haven't played the game??
@@Pixiesforever7 hes paid to give an opinion... hes saying hes not a fighter so it doesn't feel right to say anything.... well he's paid to say something. I get it occasionally you can say you don't feel qualified to make a comment on odd occasions, if youve never been a fighter and you need to have been to make a fully informed comment on the topic of conversation. however he did it here, and ive seen him do it in the past, purely because he doesn't want to offend anyone. basically im not a fighter so I cant criticise a fighter in any way. you cant use the "if you haven't got anything nice to say then don't say anything at all" approach when you're paid to give an opinion on boxing and boxers. he should quit if thats his stance. I get your point and agree there are far too many "experts" out there nowadays who seem to think they know everything about everything and have an opinion on everything without the knowledge. but this case is different, he's paid to give an opinion and avoids it many times purely because he doesn't want to offend a fighter/fighters.
Naz is one of the greatest fighters to come out of the uk . Absolutely electric At the end lost his way but the guy brought all the smoke You’re insane to even put Whitaker in the same sentence .
Absolutely. Keown pointedly asked: did Naz ever have a night like that? Then Smith brings up the fight against Barrera! Like there was a comparison. Utterly bizarre.
Ben Whittaker was getting praise but once he was getting matched so poorly boxing fans started to get suspicious especially with how sky were promoting him even though he hasn't even beat anyone decent
Ben Whittaker quit - end of. Doesn’t matter if you haven’t boxed before or aren’t a qualified psychologist - it’s an opinion based on an observation. I’ve boxed but it doesn’t make me more qualified to comment on Whittaker 🤷🏾♂️ Dubois quit too vs Joyce…and he was right to do so…IMO 👊🏾
I don't know why they're so scared to say someone quit, DDD could've physically carried on and he didn't, he factually quit, that doesn't make it the wrong decision, but it's what happened
@Lee-ye3ev the AJ one was slightly different, the ref waved him off, but I do agree he could've done more to convince him he was fine, so in that sense, he gave the ref an excuse to call it, I don't know why people get so offended by it, DDD probably did the right thing, but it is what happened
“Were you one of those hoping God I hope Frazer comes out of this alright?” Cracking questions, what’s Adam gonna say, err no not really. Was hoping he got stretchered off!!!
Why not? Who pays to watch them fight? If a fighter quits, for whatever reason we have every right to call them out on it....especially with the mouth ben has
@@perpetualintellectual2026 Because most people wouldn't go in there and even fight one round at professional level, so to call a boxer a quitter is lauagble coming from someone who wouldn't even step through the ropes, It's not just about Ben everyone should have learned from the Dubois V Joyce fight not to call a fighter a quitter, show me another fighter in boxing history who had four fractures of their eye socket and bleed at the back of their eye and carried on fighting? Anthony Ogogo had an eye fracture and carried on and got stopped, and he's never fought since, but do people call him a warrior? No he was silly to carry on and end his career.
cant stand this logic. Ben Whittaker quit that was clear, it wasn't going his way and he looked for a way out. This is just a useless excuse used by sportsmen to avoid criticism.
@@riy-g4e so what should a non fighter say then if a fighter clearly quits? if he quits he quits. why cant you say he quit? what do you say then? why does it matter if the guy wouldnt have the balls to get in the ring at all, doesn't mean the fighter didn't quit. like saying I wouldnt have the balls to parachute out of a plane... so I cant say the guy who pulled his cord too late and splatted into the ground pulled his cord too late haha.
I think the fracture was likely from the first right had that landed in the exact same place as the finishing shot, so it was likely fractured from the first right hand and then caved in from the last right hand which landed in exactly the same spot
Jim White gives the most soppy monolgues ever then follows up with a stupid question Where you one of those concerned about Fraser Clarke Adam Err no i was the only person looking that thought its only his face out place who cares.
Daniel was getting beaten and could not find the reserve to go on. It looked like ben was going to lose and he found/ took a way out. . The rematch will be a big fight now.
Watching it live as soon as it happened I was think please be ok Clarke,he didn't know where he was an his face was in a terrible state,I was happy our Ipswich boy won but I really was not bothered by the win I just wanted Clarke to get help and to hospital asap all the best big fella in your recovery and congratulations fabs it was a stunning Ko wow.
Heavyweight business is dangerous as we saw with frazier Clarke. He is at the start of his career but hard to see where he goes from here. Every fighter he gets in with will know he is chinny.
WHITICKER has no power at all it's worrying going forward he didn't make a dent in the lad the weekend. Maybe he needs to go up to cruiserweight or down to super middle but he got found out on the weekend.
This is why I didn't jump on the hype train with Ben. Fighters like Ben look GREAT when they're facing low level talent and can showboat. I'm impressed when a fighter can showboat and make world class champions look stupid and not on their level like Roy Jones did.
When wittaker and his opponent went over the top rope he must have thought it was a GIFT from God, cos he probably thought " this is the PERFECT opportunity to get out of this fight". It was a fight he was losing imo, I don't think I've ever seen him get caught with so many punches in a fight. For all of his elusiveness in the past, there was NONE of it. He wad very disappointing in the fight and he needed away out, and boy oh boy did he find it. There was nout wrong g with him ad far as I could see.
The wind changed direction and his face froze! Seems like we are lobbying to get all gimpy with safety to me.. It's boxing it's not safe it's for tough characters or don't do it!
Yes but there's levels to safety hence the gloves and refs/corners stopping it if it's getting out of hand. We want to see a good clean fight but no one dying in the ring. Getting punched in the face will never be 'safe' but like I say there's levels to it.
@@bushcraftadventure5215 The agenda is obvious. Nothing wrong with it.. if you want to turn it soft who wants to watch that.. boxing has been like that for 100 years. This sort of chat could lead to a rather boring conveluted sport! Heard it here first!
Get fabio in with any top heavy weights and never mind with the likes of chisora whyte thats just pointless,'whats he going to achieve nothing as hes already got decent sparring partners fabio would wooop any top heavy weight out there and no reason why not.Hes proved to people hes the real deal,'never mind joshua,zhang,or mr bomb squad to say fight any of those you might aswell say bring back david price.
Awful night for Simon's favorite Blue chip promoter Ben Shalom! Whittaker quitting and exposed! Jack Massey completely battered in a career shortening fight! Chris Eubank looked meh and Fraser Clarke completely destroyed
He hasn't knocked out ANYONE of any decent level, you're overly excited just because he knocked out Fraser who has thought NO ONE and some local bin men. When he has some real fights and does some damage there,come back on here and then suk him off.
That ain't the real story, nas for maybe 1 or 2 fights wasnt accepted but then it was something different, nobody had seen this type of fighter before in the ppv era and nobody wanted him to lose, nobody wanted his buzz to end and myself like most were absolutely gutted when he lost and never came back. Whittaker name being mentioned along side nas is disgraceful imo
As much as i think wardley was great and i like him, dont think hes world class yet. Parker fight next will show us where hes at, good guy tho and hope fabio goes far. Not world level yet tho in my eyes
I honestly thought Frazier had a stroke it was scary
Yeah that was ruff , hope he’s doing allright
In a way it probly was a mini stroke
@@bigtuss7482 just shows how dangerous boxing actually is .. all these arm chair boxers who call people a coward for not going toe to toe with big punchers lol
first thing i thought
I’ve seen some knockouts but can never recall seeing a boxer be that bad.
I couldn’t believe the ref even started the count it was obvious he was sparked.
To add hope he’s ok as he comes across like a great lad!
Wardley did to Frazier what Bricktop wanted to do to Benjamin Shalom
😂😂😂
What we witnessed was a man’s face morph into that of Kalle Saurland; after one of his nights out ❄️
Difference between Ben and naz is that naz sent people for an early Kip on a regular basis
Who did
Yeah Naz would tell everyone before the fight “ I’m knocking him out in round 3” and would do it!
That is true but like Ben he doesn’t like getting hit.
Josh Kelly also.
Naz had a far superior defence to Ben, but Naz's attack was beyond anything any modern boxer has
@@lordvadertheleftie9703Naz got me into watching boxing. He was the ultimate showboat but could back it up. Ben wants to showboat like Naz but has 1/10th of the talent.
Simon is so self-righteous even when he is wrong, he has to imply he was right. Said Clarke all along, then just before said to his mate Wardley.
I think hes too genuine. He probably did have that little thought coz we all doubt our own judgements when it comes to contests but we didnt need to know. I think hes genuine coz hes outspoken and cant help himself.
@@paulos1878 fair comment. I do like him and listen to the show because of him to be honest, but just at times he think he is a bit self absorbed
@@Jtggllkyhfff he is mate hes full of himself but i do think he most often means what he says and i cant bare the generic nonsense from most of the others.
@@paulos1878 I agree mate
He is a bit of a knob head at times. But he does make the show interesting
Don't compare Whitaker with naz naz put people unconcios
No he didn’t
@@jasonantigua6825 he did
@@amma9518 He didn't, sorry to be the one to let you know
@@Lilzigzz he did i seen it
Augie Sanchez
Adam Smith is pointless on these. As much as we criticise Simon at least he has an opinion, Adam is always fence sitting. Fighters can and should be criticised when necessary, I hate this “I’m not a boxer so I can’t say anything negative” attitude from him
Is constantly having an opinion about everything a good thing? Showing some nuance and balance is actually a nice thing in this day and age.
It's called un biased journalism. Used to be normal before social media .
@@Pixiesforever7it is good for entertainment which is why most people are watching these clips. Yes for news and information also but i think mainly for entertainment
@Lu149 I couldn't agree more! What daft statement to make. Surely, to be worth anything as a pundit you must be able to communicate to the public what you see irrespective of whether you're a fighter or not. Translate that ridiculous statement to football - am I not able to have an opinion on how poor Harry Maguire has been for Man U because I haven't played the game??
@@Pixiesforever7 hes paid to give an opinion... hes saying hes not a fighter so it doesn't feel right to say anything.... well he's paid to say something.
I get it occasionally you can say you don't feel qualified to make a comment on odd occasions, if youve never been a fighter and you need to have been to make a fully informed comment on the topic of conversation.
however he did it here, and ive seen him do it in the past, purely because he doesn't want to offend anyone. basically im not a fighter so I cant criticise a fighter in any way.
you cant use the "if you haven't got anything nice to say then don't say anything at all" approach when you're paid to give an opinion on boxing and boxers.
he should quit if thats his stance.
I get your point and agree there are far too many "experts" out there nowadays who seem to think they know everything about everything and have an opinion on everything without the knowledge. but this case is different, he's paid to give an opinion and avoids it many times purely because he doesn't want to offend a fighter/fighters.
Naseem had 1-punch KO power and the elite level. Whitaker does not have 1-punch KO power at the central area-level. That's the difference.
Naz is one of the greatest fighters to come out of the uk .
Absolutely electric
At the end lost his way but the guy brought all the smoke
You’re insane to even put Whitaker in the same sentence .
Absolutely. Keown pointedly asked: did Naz ever have a night like that? Then Smith brings up the fight against Barrera! Like there was a comparison. Utterly bizarre.
Ben Whittaker was getting praise but once he was getting matched so poorly boxing fans started to get suspicious especially with how sky were promoting him even though he hasn't even beat anyone decent
Ben Whittaker quit - end of. Doesn’t matter if you haven’t boxed before or aren’t a qualified psychologist - it’s an opinion based on an observation. I’ve boxed but it doesn’t make me more qualified to comment on Whittaker 🤷🏾♂️ Dubois quit too vs Joyce…and he was right to do so…IMO 👊🏾
Exactly. Now look at DDD's career trajectory and Joyce's. He lost the battle to win the war
Wardly should fight someone in the top 10
Wardley vs Joshua is a great fight for Frank Warren to make next.
Tht would end ina draw
Doesn't Ben Davison train both of them?
No it wouldn’t
Eddie promotes both
@@kylemc0254Wardley is with Queensbury
6:20 😂 Simon trying to do the lottery while the numbers are being drawn
I don't know why they're so scared to say someone quit, DDD could've physically carried on and he didn't, he factually quit, that doesn't make it the wrong decision, but it's what happened
With a broken eye socket
@@truthinlifewoken6698 what's your point?
Agreed, like when AJ quit against Ruiz and BJS quit against Canelo
@Lee-ye3ev the AJ one was slightly different, the ref waved him off, but I do agree he could've done more to convince him he was fine, so in that sense, he gave the ref an excuse to call it, I don't know why people get so offended by it, DDD probably did the right thing, but it is what happened
It's a dirty word in boxing. It's like people think you are less of a person if you quit. All ego driven and caring what others think.
Poor clarke hope all is well with him, whittaker was very poor
Wardley turned Clarke into Tony Bellew
How?
Tony Belloo
“Were you one of those hoping God I hope Frazer comes out of this alright?”
Cracking questions, what’s Adam gonna say, err no not really. Was hoping he got stretchered off!!!
😂😂
I agree with Adam the word quit shouldn't be said by non fighters
Why not? Who pays to watch them fight? If a fighter quits, for whatever reason we have every right to call them out on it....especially with the mouth ben has
@@perpetualintellectual2026 Because most people wouldn't go in there and even fight one round at professional level, so to call a boxer a quitter is lauagble coming from someone who wouldn't even step through the ropes, It's not just about Ben everyone should have learned from the Dubois V Joyce fight not to call a fighter a quitter, show me another fighter in boxing history who had four fractures of their eye socket and bleed at the back of their eye and carried on fighting? Anthony Ogogo had an eye fracture and carried on and got stopped, and he's never fought since, but do people call him a warrior? No he was silly to carry on and end his career.
cant stand this logic. Ben Whittaker quit that was clear, it wasn't going his way and he looked for a way out. This is just a useless excuse used by sportsmen to avoid criticism.
@@riy-g4e so what should a non fighter say then if a fighter clearly quits?
if he quits he quits. why cant you say he quit? what do you say then?
why does it matter if the guy wouldnt have the balls to get in the ring at all, doesn't mean the fighter didn't quit.
like saying I wouldnt have the balls to parachute out of a plane... so I cant say the guy who pulled his cord too late and splatted into the ground pulled his cord too late haha.
Imagine comparing feather fisted domestic level Whittaker with world class Naz. Behave!.
naz could showboat at the top level doesn't look like whittaker can
Naz's level of showboating was another level, backed up with insane punches from ridiculous angles
I think the fracture was likely from the first right had that landed in the exact same place as the finishing shot, so it was likely fractured from the first right hand and then caved in from the last right hand which landed in exactly the same spot
Enjoy listening to Adam Smith, a big miss on sky.
I think he should retire. Hope he has a speedy recovery. That punch will be in his head forever, if he was to carry on fighting.
Wardley should fight Hergovic, Hughie Fury or Otto next.
Hrgović(Hrgovich) not hergovich
@@ivanbuzov6279 Yea the Croatian 🥊
Hughie Fury is fighting Chisora next.
Jim White gives the most soppy monolgues ever then follows up with a stupid question
Where you one of those concerned about Fraser Clarke Adam
Err no i was the only person looking that thought its only his face out place who cares.
Whitaker looked for a way out
Boxing is a dangerous sport. I hope Fraser Clarke is OK.
As a paying customer I have the right to say if he quite or not as the saying goes the customer is always right
Until you learn to spell, the customer is most definitely wrong.
Quittaker got found out
Well said, Adam! Smart response
Whos the other fella on the panel who didnt say anything 🤔
I didn't like how ref didn't split it when back was turned
You know it’s a good night when this happens
Don't know what's more annoying the adverts disrupting the show or jim white ... 🔔end
Daniel was getting beaten and could not find the reserve to go on. It looked like ben was going to lose and he found/ took a way out. . The rematch will be a big fight now.
Ya shouldn't even talk in the same breathe as hamed and Whittaker,he will never be 5% of anywhere near naz.
Exactly! And they forget to remember, with naz it wasn't just the showboating. He was knocking people spark out too!
Simon is absolutely correct. But after that decision I won’t be paying for any more boxing. Judges have & always probably will ruin boxing.
The health and safety of the fighters?! what a ridiculous contradiction!!!
hardly disturbing it's just a broken jaw & cheek bone that happens in fighting
Very rare that the 2 injuries happen at the same time though, he’s gonna struggle to come back from this tbh.
Watching it live as soon as it happened I was think please be ok Clarke,he didn't know where he was an his face was in a terrible state,I was happy our Ipswich boy won but I really was not bothered by the win I just wanted Clarke to get help and to hospital asap all the best big fella in your recovery and congratulations fabs it was a stunning Ko wow.
Aw so cute😂
Wardley vs Wilder next make it happen!
Fabio wardley v Daniel dubious
Fabio isn't at that level yet
It was scary I was disappointed by the boxing association they should have rushed him to hospital sap
I wish Frazier all the best. He’s a brave lad, unlike others.
Wardley punched the Kalle saurland post party face into Clarke.
The only thing that urtur was to beat Bivol's cloves. He had no clear punches
Heavyweight business is dangerous as we saw with frazier Clarke. He is at the start of his career but hard to see where he goes from here. Every fighter he gets in with will know he is chinny.
Start of his career? He's been about for years. Bronze medalists Olympian, he's far from chinny.
That's not being chinny tho is it mate, having your face caved in. Anyone who had taken that punishment wouldn't exactly be game.
Crumpled in a heap! Damn!!
WHITICKER has no power at all it's worrying going forward he didn't make a dent in the lad the weekend. Maybe he needs to go up to cruiserweight or down to super middle but he got found out on the weekend.
Unbeatable Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊👊
Adam smith is a secret masochist
Clarke vs whyte, aj vs wardley winners fight each other
Or could see a super series
Clarke
Aj
Joyce
Whyte
Wardley
Adeleye
Dubios
Andy ruiz jr
Fabio vs Joe Joyce must be the next fight...
This is why I didn't jump on the hype train with Ben. Fighters like Ben look GREAT when they're facing low level talent and can showboat. I'm impressed when a fighter can showboat and make world class champions look stupid and not on their level like Roy Jones did.
Wardley needs to fight someone in top 20
Put him in with chisora
Adam smith having a mare here. Tying himself in knots
Clarke mistake was throwing jab too close open to counter rights
Cmon Bean rumplesilkskin hand your Laptop into the nearest cop shop!
When wittaker and his opponent went over the top rope he must have thought it was a GIFT from God, cos he probably thought " this is the PERFECT opportunity to get out of this fight". It was a fight he was losing imo, I don't think I've ever seen him get caught with so many punches in a fight. For all of his elusiveness in the past, there was NONE of it. He wad very disappointing in the fight and he needed away out, and boy oh boy did he find it. There was nout wrong g with him ad far as I could see.
I bet Adam Smith wishes he didn't exactly like Nigel Farage.
At this point Keowns wife needs to tell him to get himself a clothing stylist cause what on earth does he wear everyday 😂
Barrera was on the juice , wasn’t fair on Naz
Simon always says he says something after the fact!
Clarke looks a lit like Bellew. Are they related?
I like style being cheeky why not like it think it’s funny me doubt anyone do it. Like naz tho
Hope clarke recovers and comes back .
Fabio did him a big favour he’s just not good enough and should retire for his own safety.
respectfully, Whittaker fights nothing like Naseem. You guys are supposed boxing pundits/ historians. Go look up Emmanuel Augustus
The wind changed direction and his face froze! Seems like we are lobbying to get all gimpy with safety to me.. It's boxing it's not safe it's for tough characters or don't do it!
Yes but there's levels to safety hence the gloves and refs/corners stopping it if it's getting out of hand. We want to see a good clean fight but no one dying in the ring. Getting punched in the face will never be 'safe' but like I say there's levels to it.
@@bushcraftadventure5215 The agenda is obvious. Nothing wrong with it.. if you want to turn it soft who wants to watch that.. boxing has been like that for 100 years. This sort of chat could lead to a rather boring conveluted sport! Heard it here first!
He turned Over late for a reason. All that funding certain boxers get turns them soft.
naz was way over the hill wen he fought the mexican
Frazer got turned into Chris rock in that corner
Can’t compare Naz with Ben Whitaker in any way. Christ 🤣
Ben Quittikar was out classed then gassed and quit to save his 0
But we all know 😂
Shut up Adam he quit
Big time charlie over here! You'd have quit too you little melt.
Some people saying it was scary.. pull yourselves together or go watch football.💅🏻
Problem with whitaker is he disrespects to other fighters with how he behaves in the ring. When your poor people will be happy.
And hamed got found out when he fought a proper champion
Wardley v white please
You reckon he will fight his manager?
Whyte doesn’t deserve it, serving a silent ban currently. Needs to stay off the PEDs.
Whtye in my would get battered
whyte was okay busting for peds against rivas but not martin luther joshua
What an awful fight that would be
Did wardley have something in his glove like previous cheating boxers had in the past? For example margarito vs miguel cotto
Ben Quitaker
Fabio punched Clarke to realm of the stupid.
Get fabio in with any top heavy weights and never mind with the likes of chisora whyte thats just pointless,'whats he going to achieve nothing as hes already got decent sparring partners fabio would wooop any top heavy weight out there and no reason why not.Hes proved to people hes the real deal,'never mind joshua,zhang,or mr bomb squad to say fight any of those you might aswell say bring back david price.
Naz was good but when he got to the top he fell short.
Please don't say ben is anything like Naz .
Bivol won
He actually lost via unanimous decision.
Am massive fan barriers great legend Barrera
In English please
Cambridge or Oxford?
Awful night for Simon's favorite Blue chip promoter Ben Shalom! Whittaker quitting and exposed! Jack Massey completely battered in a career shortening fight! Chris Eubank looked meh and Fraser Clarke completely destroyed
Whittaker has been exposed.
Fabio Wardley could knock out anyone
He hasn't knocked out ANYONE of any decent level, you're overly excited just because he knocked out Fraser who has thought NO ONE and some local bin men. When he has some real fights and does some damage there,come back on here and then suk him off.
@@londongunner1 frazer iz good level and he knocked brutally
@@londongunner1 fabio Wardley iz a powerful puncher he could knock a lot of people out
He has scary power. Obviously he can ko anyone regardless of who he has fought to date.
@londongunner1 get out the gutter and clean your mouth out. There are keyboard warriors and then there are utter morons
Naseem was ok until he came up against a tough Mexican
Another prediction by simon..he got wrong..him and haye are the worst prediction artists
Can’t stand all that show boating just fight !
Adamonthefence
looked like a broken jaw to me
Ben quittaker lol
That ain't the real story, nas for maybe 1 or 2 fights wasnt accepted but then it was something different, nobody had seen this type of fighter before in the ppv era and nobody wanted him to lose, nobody wanted his buzz to end and myself like most were absolutely gutted when he lost and never came back.
Whittaker name being mentioned along side nas is disgraceful imo
As much as i think wardley was great and i like him, dont think hes world class yet. Parker fight next will show us where hes at, good guy tho and hope fabio goes far. Not world level yet tho in my eyes