Italy's $12BN Bridge Mystery

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  • @andyb6642
    @andyb6642 9 місяців тому +1029

    As an Italian i can say that was pretty accurate. I appreciate you explaining the whole controversy on it in such a short time.

    • @rodrigodearcayne
      @rodrigodearcayne 9 місяців тому

      @@Leontinuswe’re all terroni, cumpà! How did Lega Nord went from asking for secession to asking for making a 12 billion bridge on the Messina strait?

    • @porfirioErodriguez
      @porfirioErodriguez 8 місяців тому +5

      The soccer bit was awesome. it all made sense LOL

    • @Nickle314
      @Nickle314 8 місяців тому +2

      Da maffia got the money.

    • @bigplanett
      @bigplanett 7 місяців тому

      The Mafia doesn't want the bridge built. They're making too much money on their SNAV Hydrofoils. They are a major part of the problem.

    • @teostefani
      @teostefani 7 місяців тому

      As an Italian citizen I'm disappointed by this video. Poorly build on stereotypes. How come.wall Street journal did better?
      ua-cam.com/video/UrVqLbVRank/v-deo.htmlsi=85o6hwtkqmBpzOPM

  • @charleslynch340
    @charleslynch340 9 місяців тому +999

    10/10, the football analogy was perfect and that was awesome, 10 minutes felt like 30 seconds and I could listen to Mr Marchisciana talk all day

    • @CortexNewsService
      @CortexNewsService 9 місяців тому +38

      It's rare to see the phrase "political football" made visual. It made sense even to an American like me.

    • @d1234as
      @d1234as 9 місяців тому +19

      No, it's quite perfect because there's a typo: it's Giuseppe Conte, not Giuseppe Conti.

    • @rogink
      @rogink 9 місяців тому +5

      @@d1234as And the name of the sponsor: Brillant?

    • @t.4999
      @t.4999 9 місяців тому +2

      🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌

    • @commentatore3223
      @commentatore3223 9 місяців тому +1

      9/10 because no goal has been made yet

  • @paoloberlanda8978
    @paoloberlanda8978 8 місяців тому +380

    It’s incredible, and somewhat disappointing, that as an Italian citizen, a UA-cam video can provide more information about this bridge than all the transport ministers of the governments I’ve encountered in my lifetime

    • @Halomax
      @Halomax 8 місяців тому +14

      Not mentioning the fact that during one persons lifetime there are more ministers passing by in Italy than Euros, the bridge would cost 😅😅

    • @bigplanett
      @bigplanett 7 місяців тому +8

      I lived in Messina for 3 months and Reggio Calabria for 4.5 months. I can tell you that the Mafia is not interested in the bridge since they are making lots of money on their SNAV Hydrofoils. They are part of the problem behind the bridge not being built. It's just not discussed openly.

    • @teostefani
      @teostefani 7 місяців тому

      Engineer Explains How the World’s Longest Suspension Bridge Will Be Built | WSJ

    • @tireballastserviceofflorid7771
      @tireballastserviceofflorid7771 4 місяці тому

      Ain't socialist countries great...

    • @ivankuzin8388
      @ivankuzin8388 4 місяці тому +3

      @@tireballastserviceofflorid7771 As somebody who actually lived in a socialist country (obviously unlike you), I can say that Italy is *not* a socialist country, but a capitalist one. Problems they have have nothing to do with their system.

  • @dosgos
    @dosgos 9 місяців тому +471

    The winds and seas are brutal on that strait. It is a relatively long distance too. Outside natural challenges, Calabria & Sicily are notoriously "difficult" places to get construction done.

    • @stefanodadamo6809
      @stefanodadamo6809 9 місяців тому +83

      Difficult like, if the gear doing the work isn't from the "proper" firms, it suffers any sort of sudden accident, until the local mobsters make offers that can't be refused.

    • @krashd
      @krashd 9 місяців тому

      @@stefanodadamo6809 The Italians need to crush the Cosa Nostra once and for all, they have been a plague on Italy for too long.

    • @ThisTheAviator
      @ThisTheAviator 9 місяців тому

      @@stefanodadamo6809 It's always italians badmouthing their own country.

    • @Slo-ryde
      @Slo-ryde 9 місяців тому +19

      The mobsters run the ferries….so they won’t let it happen!

    • @stefanodadamo6809
      @stefanodadamo6809 9 місяців тому +17

      @@Slo-ryde they run almost everything down there, and what they don't run they plunder from

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam 9 місяців тому +1132

    B1M's content really feels like a documentary, the quality is on point

    • @saranobutt
      @saranobutt 9 місяців тому +14

      You're a genius, you figure that out on your own?

    • @ziloj-perezivat
      @ziloj-perezivat 9 місяців тому

      ?????@@saranobutt

    • @hnacs8117
      @hnacs8117 9 місяців тому +5

      @@saranobutt he’s a genius in my book

    • @el.pincheguero
      @el.pincheguero 9 місяців тому

      ​@@saranobuttand you're a condescending (you know what it means, right?) muppet

    • @hindsightcapital2021
      @hindsightcapital2021 9 місяців тому +3

      could easily be a featured story on any news network

  • @--Paws--
    @--Paws-- 9 місяців тому +41

    The two towers of the bridge should be called Scylla on oneside and Charybdis on the otherside.

  • @samuelesala1399
    @samuelesala1399 9 місяців тому +31

    Ok, you convinced me. As an Italian, i will join brilliant like you said, learn everything I need to know and build the fricking bridge myself

  • @lucalanzilao8099
    @lucalanzilao8099 9 місяців тому +121

    As an Italian, that soccer game made my day. Thanks!

    • @scyllajk2757
      @scyllajk2757 9 місяців тому

      Why does a italian call football soccer? you fake.

    • @JP_TaVeryMuch
      @JP_TaVeryMuch 9 місяців тому +9

      Soccer?

    • @realgamer8214
      @realgamer8214 9 місяців тому +10

      @@JP_TaVeryMuchprobably an American whose great great great grandmother was Italian 😂 jk

    • @varoonnone7159
      @varoonnone7159 9 місяців тому

      Italian football players are the greatest comedians on earth

    • @allaboutmika
      @allaboutmika 8 місяців тому

      LMFAO@@realgamer8214

  • @hb1338
    @hb1338 9 місяців тому +142

    One more thing - there is still huge political and social sensitivity to the collapse of the Morandi bridge. It was the centrepiece of an important trade route between France and Italy and its collapse was probably caused by negligent maintenance. There is an understandable fear in many circles that any new bridge might be vulnerable to exactly the same influences which caused the Morandi bridge to collapse.

    • @Slo-ryde
      @Slo-ryde 9 місяців тому +4

      Bridge upkeep will be very expensive once it is built…. I could see the toll being 100 Euro per vehicle to cover the cost.

    • @markomarkomarko
      @markomarkomarko 8 місяців тому +3

      Well, technology has come a long way since. We know more about materals and about building and maintaining structures now that we did 50 years ago!

    • @OscarLazzarino
      @OscarLazzarino 8 місяців тому +18

      @@markomarkomarko knowing about maintenance is one thing. Performing such maintenance is a whole different matter.

    • @markomarkomarko
      @markomarkomarko 8 місяців тому

      @@OscarLazzarino as someone who lives in Serbia, I agree with you 100%

    • @diegociccolini575
      @diegociccolini575 8 місяців тому +3

      @@Slo-ryde Maybe for some time but the A22 runs on gigantic bridge segments and the toll is about the same as every other Highway. Tho the upkeep costs are very very high.

  • @steini6771
    @steini6771 9 місяців тому +202

    I loved the "political total confusion football game", that reflects a lot on how the Italians somehow prefer to "run" their Government and more. Looking forward to the completion of the bridge, if ever. lol -

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 9 місяців тому +5

      Whisper this quietly, but there is a suspicion that Italy would function better under a dictatorship.

    • @pawelzielinski1398
      @pawelzielinski1398 9 місяців тому +26

      @@hb1338 I think we went over that ~80 years ago or so. It didn't end well. At least not for il duce 🙂

    • @Slo-ryde
      @Slo-ryde 9 місяців тому +2

      @@hb1338yeah…. That is what they said about Germany after they lost the First World War!

    • @thewanderingsloth432
      @thewanderingsloth432 8 місяців тому

      Already tried that way. It didn't work very well.@@hb1338

    • @cochazza
      @cochazza 8 місяців тому

      The "bridge" serves two main purposes: throw-away claims during election campaigns; "placing" friends and relatives when governing. The current government looks even more motivated to actually build it because otherwise they'd have a whole lot of other actual, urgent, everyday issues to solve. This let them dream and play big, knowing they can't possibly bring it to completion before the term's end so however they screw up it'll be yet again someone else's problem by then

  • @qdaniele97
    @qdaniele97 9 місяців тому +254

    One small "political" problem many documentaries forget to mention is that building the support towers and access ramps on both sides would require wiping out two small towns and relocating all their inhabitants, which is easier said than done.

    • @JackFate76
      @JackFate76 9 місяців тому +26

      And possibly not the right thing to do?

    • @Slo-ryde
      @Slo-ryde 9 місяців тому +10

      Not to mention the general maintenance of the bridge once built !

    • @DlcEnergy
      @DlcEnergy 8 місяців тому +25

      @@JackFate76 Not strictly. Places get changed all the time. My childhood primary school and public library no longer exist. This big field i played on now has houses there... The vacant school grounds now has houses there. A playground that was on another field no longer exists either. Everything changes... It might not feel like the same place i grew up anymore, but change has got to happen. Out with the old, in with the new. Also i'm from Britain, there's a lot of places you just see and think, yeah that could do with knocking down. lol

    • @Ale7it
      @Ale7it 8 місяців тому +16

      This is not true, you have to do below average expropriations, for other public works they are much bigger. The junctions are mostly underground, they have no impact on the surface. If anything, go and see how much coastline is sacrificed for ferries, and how much traffic devastates the urban centers of Villa and Messina because of ferries. The residents are literally held hostage with obviously severely impaired air quality and thus incur drastically higher incidences of disease.

    • @carmelospadea8849
      @carmelospadea8849 8 місяців тому +2

      Fake news

  • @Gerthious
    @Gerthious 9 місяців тому +35

    If you ever visit Messina, visiting the museum on the north of the city to learn about the earthquake is fascinating. There is also the most epic enormous Caravaggio. If you've never been to Messina, it has some of the best street art in the world, easily accessible from the train station for a day visit!

  • @cx5307
    @cx5307 9 місяців тому +95

    I always wondered why there are big bridges in Denmark and even a tunnel to the UK, but no bridge over the small body of water to Sicily. Now I know.

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 9 місяців тому +2

      I have travelled through the Channel tunnel on a number of occasions, but I have not heard about the tunnel from Denmark to the UK. Is there a website for it ?

    • @vanhakaveri
      @vanhakaveri 9 місяців тому +34

      @@hb1338 He obviously meant that there is a tunnel to the UK, not specifying where it comes from.

    • @pawelzielinski1398
      @pawelzielinski1398 9 місяців тому +8

      @@hb1338 The tunnel connects UK to France.

    • @JaCrispy3060
      @JaCrispy3060 9 місяців тому +12

      @@hb1338 That would be an extremely long tunnel lmao

    • @krashd
      @krashd 9 місяців тому +11

      @@pawelzielinski1398 We also have a tunnel to Denmark but it is only used for bacon deliveries. No one does bacon like the Danish do bacon...

  • @gabrielaperrig
    @gabrielaperrig 9 місяців тому +61

    great content as always 👏🏻 - but that soccer game was just brilliant 😂

  • @PaudyalArjun
    @PaudyalArjun 9 місяців тому +99

    This bridge sounds very similar to the Rion-Antirion Bridge in gulf of Corinth, Greece. Earthquake problem, wind problem and violent currents of water problem all solved in a similar way.

    • @albertodv2165
      @albertodv2165 9 місяців тому +25

      With a tiny difference: Rion-Antirion Bridge is 2.88km long, with a maximum span of 560m.
      Messina bridge would have a 3.3km SPAN, 500m more than the entire length of Rion-Antirion Bridge.
      To give you an idea, Çanakkale bridge, the bridge with the longest span in the world, cited in the video, is 2km... Messina's bridge span would be 1.65 times longer, almost doubling Yangsigang bridge, the 3rd longest one
      All of this without money nor expertise to do it, and all to connect the poorest sides of the country. Calabria (on the other side of the strait of Messina) is connected to the peninsula, but it's the poorest region of the Country

    • @MrNoncredo
      @MrNoncredo 9 місяців тому

      @@albertodv2165 e tutto questo perché meloni e salvini devono restituire il favore alla mafia per essere stati eletti

    • @moos5221
      @moos5221 9 місяців тому +4

      @@albertodv2165 What could possibly go wrong? They learned in Genoa how not to do it, so now they are ready for the task of creating the biggest bridge of its kind ever....or at least they are ready to give the money to the organized crime families and politicians involved...the bridge will better never be build, for the safety of all people travelling the straight. Italy doesn't have the ressources, neither monetary nor intellectual.

    • @georgeiv6925
      @georgeiv6925 9 місяців тому +11

      As a Greek i can tell you that Rion Antirrion bridge is one of the very few things that make me proud to be a modern Greek. Problem is that the toll fee is really high for average greek standards and i think it will be the same for our south Italian brothers, so in a sense this bridge is gonna be a pride for the industrialist north and no so much of the south. It would be better if those billions were actually put onto education and public infrastructure other than that in order for Sicily and the rest of the Italian South to create the next great italian Inventors and Stem masters. Only good thing that this bridge would bring is for mafia to move drugs and other illegal stuff faster. So , i do like what the Sicilian mechanic said about harnessing Scylla and Charybdis but at the end like us here public underinvestment is what keeps us economically poor.

    • @edombre4637
      @edombre4637 9 місяців тому +2

      @@moos5221 utter BS

  • @TheMrMerudin
    @TheMrMerudin 9 місяців тому +13

    Italian here, the bridge project is literally a meme in our culture

  • @gaetanomontante5161
    @gaetanomontante5161 9 місяців тому +221

    I was born in Sicily in what seems like a Century ago, and although I emigrated (was emigrated) when still a child, I always remembered as I grew older the magical myth of a "Bridge" to the Continent. Now that I am an old man, the purely magical qualities of a bridge over the these tormented waters of the Mediterranean Sea is something that still lives in my mind and if ever completed it has the ability to transform the very essence of what is possible for mankind.
    The bridge, any bridge here, has to deal with constant tremors of the land, it has to deflect almost hurricane strong winds on a continuous basis, it has to deal with deadly vibrations, we cannot forget the tendency of materials to suffer fatigue and corrosion, and ABOVE ALL, the evil intervention of the local Mafia (yes, it still exists in Sicily and it has never been stronger) to want to control the quality of materials (the lowest possible at the highest price) used for the construction, as well as the pure unadulterated fury of the owners, operators and workers of the flotilla of ferries that currently effect all transportation across the strait.
    Considering all these REAL difficulties (did I mention the endemic anemic reaction of all governments in Rome?) is it to much to imagine that the accomplishment of such dream work of art would be considered as one of the truly epic and colossal construction that mankind ever erected?

    • @Nphen
      @Nphen 9 місяців тому

      I always wondered why so many films & TV shows had scenes where the local mafia buried bodies in construction sites. The older I get, the more I see & hear that organized crime around the world is involved with construction. The quickest, cleanest, cheapest way to get it done would probably be to call China, both for financing and construction.

    • @Derideo
      @Derideo 9 місяців тому

      Naw, just another dumb boondoggle.

    • @alphardxyz
      @alphardxyz 9 місяців тому

      The mafia argument just sounds lazy. So we're never going to make any large investment in Sicily for the fear that the mafia will make money off of it? And then the Southerners keep complaining that the government isn't investing any money for them. Italy is such a joke of a country, any other developed nation would have finished the bridge decades ago.

    • @Slo-ryde
      @Slo-ryde 9 місяців тому +8

      Politicians know how difficult and costly the project will be, For the many reasons you stated…. This is why it was never realized, and wisely so!

    • @kabijoshi5949
      @kabijoshi5949 8 місяців тому

      All bull shit. No country like Italy today can do it. All to make fool and make money in youtube.

  • @hreeman
    @hreeman 9 місяців тому +103

    It has been such a rewarding journey to see the B1M content evolve over the years. The writing and the editing have been polished to the brightest sheen. Great video! Truly touched my heart as well as informed my brain

  • @jonathanravenhilllloyd2070
    @jonathanravenhilllloyd2070 9 місяців тому +219

    I'm barely halfway through and am aware you're not allowed to show the final design but am screaming to know whether the rail lines will meet the EU high speed standard?!

    • @Andrea-rk6uh
      @Andrea-rk6uh 9 місяців тому +61

      Actually there are a lot of videos with the final project and a lot more information than what they have. The want to start building it next year so everything is already decided.
      Yep high speed trains will run trough the bridge.

    • @cpav9062
      @cpav9062 9 місяців тому +8

      @@Andrea-rk6uh then I must be quick to try that train on ferry they have right now, before it gets permanently cancelled

    • @ninjaz5736
      @ninjaz5736 9 місяців тому +27

      It's somewhat common that lines over such bridges are designed for a lower speed (say 100-160km/h, 60-100mph) than the rest of the line (maybe 250-320km/h, 150-200mph), however I can't imagine they wouldn't have it at least connected to the high speed lines, that would be a silly decision IMO.

    • @Hession0Drasha
      @Hession0Drasha 9 місяців тому +3

      Would be stupid if it didn't. Both sides will have hsr.

    • @Devilm00n
      @Devilm00n 9 місяців тому +7

      @@ninjaz5736 high speed rails in Italy stop shortly after Naples, even if the bridge supported high speed the trains would have no way to get there and nowhere to go

  • @manweoettam
    @manweoettam 8 місяців тому +14

    As an Italian (northern, so I'm not accustomed with local problems of the "bridge" area) I found this video more explanatory than anything the Italian media do on the subject. Thanks.
    Now the bad things: a part for political propaganda (if it was for this, now we should have at least 5 Messina Bridges), the problems aren't only the cost and the engeneering of the bridge itself, whom are not secondary, but also: the real will to do the bridge for Italian people, mainly but not only to ecological concerns; the Mafias historical hands on Italian construction sector; the need to expropriate and put somewhere else people of some little cities around the pillages of the bridge (and we still have families who live in the temporary houses not only after the earthquake of L'Aquila in 2009, but also from the Messina Earthquake of 1908, so temporary means forever here and an expropriation isn't so easy to do); the maintenance efficiency and cost (at least after the Morandi bridge collapse, because it uncovered a system of false control and maintenance on most of the Italian street and rail systems, with other little bridges collapsed in the last few years on the highway and in little cities areas all over the nation).
    So, the main concern in Italian people is to have the usual maintenance of traditional roads and railways at a good standard before going to a gargantuan project without the maintenance after some years.

  • @philipv2500
    @philipv2500 9 місяців тому +119

    The B1M video is one of the highlights of my week. Always well documented and with fantastic graphics and explanations for a layperson. Thanks. Hopefully Italy pushes through and gets it built for the sake of Sicily's economy.

    • @roberto6536
      @roberto6536 9 місяців тому +4

      the bridge is unuseful for the economy of Sicily: the immediate consequence of the bridge would be 35000 people without job (the same people that work around the transport services between the island and the continent). It's very superficial to talk in that way of things you don't really know.

    • @volpedo2000
      @volpedo2000 9 місяців тому +4

      This is the exact backward-thinking attitude that will never make this project happen.

    • @roberto6536
      @roberto6536 9 місяців тому

      I hope you are right@@volpedo2000

    • @mariocapanna7837
      @mariocapanna7837 9 місяців тому +1

      @@volpedo2000 I am passionate about engineering, I have been following the bridge project for more than 20 years, during this time I have formed my own idea about why this project is so opposed by the Italian left. The left defends big interests of other countries that would receive harm from the completion of the bridge and related infrastructure. The Mafia has an interest in Sicily remaining underdeveloped and poor .

    • @volpedo2000
      @volpedo2000 9 місяців тому

      @@mariocapanna7837 I don't know much about foreign affairs and how the bridge would harm other countries, so I cannot comment. But the rest, I totally agree with you.

  • @noegenesis
    @noegenesis 9 місяців тому +20

    No way you do a video about Sicily bridge while I’m spending my vacation here 😂
    It’s a beautiful place and would definitely benefit from the bridge greatly. Fingers crossed that it happens!
    Great video as always, your production quality is really top notch! Keep up the great work.

  • @superarmageddon55
    @superarmageddon55 9 місяців тому +16

    another problem of being on the fault line apart from the earthquakes is that sicily is continuously getting further from mainland italy at a rate that goes, depending on who you ask, from 1-2 mm each year to 1 cm each year

    • @signor_No
      @signor_No 9 місяців тому +6

      When you have more than 3km of bridge you can easy find the space to put even 50cm of distance between the spacer of the bridge, that's not a problem

    • @Tom_Hadler
      @Tom_Hadler 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@signor_No No, probably doable - but how much movement will it cope with in case if a severe earthquake moving one side up and right while twisting the other end another way....this seems a problem to me. Interesting, but surely not worth it

  • @Sn0wy_TV
    @Sn0wy_TV 9 місяців тому +13

    The football edit was class tbf and made it somewhat easier to understand

  • @triton_152
    @triton_152 9 місяців тому +3

    i want that architect Marchisciana to make a podcast, his voice is so calming and satisfying, and also built the bridge!

  • @hjpev6469
    @hjpev6469 9 місяців тому +8

    I hope Italy can get it done. It would be awesome to see a bridge of this size and I'm sure it would help the Italian economy.

    • @user-xk9dl8xw8l
      @user-xk9dl8xw8l 9 місяців тому +6

      No, it wouldn't help. Instead, projects spread across the entire Italian territory would do so; implementation of a hydrogeological plan, arrangement of the water network, ordinary railway network and many other things, not immediately visible, but which impact the daily life of every citizen

    • @kattagarian
      @kattagarian 9 місяців тому +4

      @@user-xk9dl8xw8l Here in Brazil we suffer the same problem. Not the bridge problem, but the addressing the wrong problems problem.

    • @user-xk9dl8xw8l
      @user-xk9dl8xw8l 9 місяців тому +2

      @@kattagarian Well said, I think I'll steal your sentence

  • @philipvecchio3292
    @philipvecchio3292 9 місяців тому +4

    My Grandmother was born in Messina in the 1930s. She said there had been talks to build the bridge her whole life.
    Thanks for talking about everyone's favorite flat football (Sicily).

  • @tobiwan001
    @tobiwan001 9 місяців тому +49

    I remember the proposed bridge more than 20 years ago. It's like a Golden Gate Bridge with everything doubled. If I remember correctly then the proposed supporting towers would be 400m tall. It would be fantastic to see it.

    • @Helga7850
      @Helga7850 9 місяців тому +1

      There's too MAFIA in Sicily that immobilizes anything.

    • @cosettapessa6417
      @cosettapessa6417 8 місяців тому

      @@Helga7850shut up nancy

  • @PeterBergaus
    @PeterBergaus 9 місяців тому +44

    The story telling in all these videos is superb. The B1M is always an enjoyable part of my day. 😊

  • @il_Presepe
    @il_Presepe 9 місяців тому +41

    It's part of a collection of ambitious engineering ventures, such as the Berlin Brandenburg Airport (a 30-year project plagued with delays), Jeddah Tower (with construction currently halted), the unfinished super-tall Goldin Finance 117 (also known as China 117 Tower), and the stunning La Sagrada Familia, the largest unfinished church in the world (a project initiated 140 years ago). My fellow Italians, we're not alone, and we have plenty of reasons to keep our optimism alive!

    • @Ottee2
      @Ottee2 9 місяців тому +11

      My understanding is that La Sagrada Familia is due to be completed in 2025. I would like to visit Barcelona for that event.

    • @cikho
      @cikho 9 місяців тому +2

      yeah, beside that we as italian have spent more money on engineering studies, projects, counter studies, every possible type of evaluation or assesment (which of course has been performed at least twice) etc, than what would be the cost of actually building and maintaining the bridge.. provided our government is able to spend half a milion for creating a website, imagine the cost of a geological engineering assesment..

    • @TheMrPeteChannel
      @TheMrPeteChannel 9 місяців тому +1

      Don't feel bad. Sometimes it takes 10 years to make a bus route in the USA.

    • @Slo-ryde
      @Slo-ryde 9 місяців тому

      A big obstacle is the Mafia

    • @Enrico-
      @Enrico- 8 місяців тому +1

      A church takes a few centuries to be build. Barcelona wants to be a capital, they need a big church.

  • @mrbbqcraig
    @mrbbqcraig 8 місяців тому +8

    Absolutely, this has to be one of the best channels on UA-cam, even if massive engineering isn't your thing.
    The reporting, the details of how a story is reported, and also the element of comedy thrown is is just excellent.... cheers to you guys 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @vanrosseyon
    @vanrosseyon 9 місяців тому +41

    Seeing the short clips from The Odyssey made me smile. That film (or mini series?) is one of my absolute favorites about the Greek Mythology. A big recommendation to those who haven't seen it yet.
    On the other hand: Great and interesting video as always guys, it's always a pleasure to watch and learn from you all!

    • @collide007
      @collide007 9 місяців тому +4

      I’m having difficulty finding the series to watch. Is it still available or called something different elsewhere?

    • @ZakhadWOW
      @ZakhadWOW 8 місяців тому

      hell even The Police reference Scylla and Charybdis in one of their songs ("King Of Pain" IIRC)

  • @Danbatio
    @Danbatio 9 місяців тому +14

    The final cost of the bridge would be egregious. In Argentina, a $2.5 BN nuclear plant finally costed over $12 BN and 30 years to get running. Considering that Italy is our mother land, I can asume the same path.

  • @TrivelaK
    @TrivelaK 9 місяців тому +10

    As an inhabitant of the Strait of Messina (Calabria), finally you too are taking care of this tormented bridge! The video is very accurate, from politics to the historical events surrounding the earthquake. The bridge would give an economic boost to this land and significantly reduce pollution!

    • @MrNoncredo
      @MrNoncredo 9 місяців тому +2

      certo, quello che dici è sacrosanto chiunque vorrebbe più sviluppo e meno impatto ambientale, ma ciò non toglie che per costruire una tale opera è quasi impossibile, se poi ci metti che a gestire tutto ci sta salvini fa già ridere così aggiungi che cosanostra e ndrangheda ci metteranno le mani sopra,,, amen

    • @Z3t487
      @Z3t487 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@@MrNoncredoSe il governo non cade forse stavolta lo fanno sul serio il ponte... dai, vediamo nel 2024 che succede. Spero di non sbagliarmi.

    • @user-xk9dl8xw8l
      @user-xk9dl8xw8l 9 місяців тому +5

      An boost for what? The perfect analogy for this bridge is that of a motorway that connects two mule tracks, and as for the reduction in pollution, since when is it achieved by increasing road traffic? Furthermore, for current commuters it would be useless

    • @lucyhumber6053
      @lucyhumber6053 9 місяців тому +3

      @@user-xk9dl8xw8l Exactly! How could shortening a trip by 35 minutes boost the economy? Also ships are the most efficient means of transportation as opposed to cars, so the environmental impact argument is just false.

    • @Hastdupech8509
      @Hastdupech8509 9 місяців тому +5

      ​@@user-xk9dl8xw8lSince when it takes ferries away from water and puts also trains on it, enabling potential Rome-Catania/Palermo HS train trips, replacing the 2 most crowded air routes of our country.
      And even if Sicilian highways are in need of repair (the A2 is excellent now), they get their job done. Same for Sicilian railways that are now undergoing upgrading, with Calabria's Thyrrenian railway being already one of the fastest conventional lines of the country. The bridge doesn't connect 3rd world towns, but 5 million Italians with the rest.

  • @eliaspadari2761
    @eliaspadari2761 9 місяців тому +4

    From a dreamlike structure to meme material.
    Cheers from italy!

  • @IKetoth
    @IKetoth 9 місяців тому +27

    Honestly that wasn't as if it was a particular instance of covering up information about the bridge, that email exchange being thrown around departments for weeks with basically no results was basically just how email chains (and particularly ones to the government) go in Italy

    • @Imthefake
      @Imthefake 9 місяців тому +5

      nobody wants to do any work so they just make it someone else's problem

  • @EricJCaraballoso
    @EricJCaraballoso 9 місяців тому +4

    Imagine your people were so advanced thousands of years ago that they built a several kilometer bridge to connect a massive island to their empire... and you have the opportunity to show the world once again your people's ingenuity...
    I really hope this gets built!

    • @albero319
      @albero319 8 місяців тому

      The Roman’s never built the bridge. And I don’t see how spending billions of tax money on a pride project is a good idea

  • @NEIL-CURCIO
    @NEIL-CURCIO 9 місяців тому +9

    like many people I have relatives in Sicily and the bridge would transform the economy there forever, I hope it will finally happen

    • @alessioatta762
      @alessioatta762 8 місяців тому +2

      Me too, greetings from Messina!

    • @NEIL-CURCIO
      @NEIL-CURCIO 8 місяців тому

      @@alessioatta762 🤙

  • @RockPaperScissor267
    @RockPaperScissor267 9 місяців тому +61

    A tunnel with rails & highway would be a great idea.

    • @antoniousai1989
      @antoniousai1989 9 місяців тому +33

      You can't build a tunnel in that area. The water is hundreds of meters deep. The maximum peak is 500 meters.

    • @Andrea-rk6uh
      @Andrea-rk6uh 9 місяців тому +23

      They studied all the possibilities and the suspended bridge is the best one.
      The problem with the tunnel, as said in the video, is that the sea is really turbulent in that area.

    • @antoniousai1989
      @antoniousai1989 9 місяців тому

      @@Andrea-rk6uh He means a tunnel under the sea, like the Eurotunnel. It's underground.

    • @DavidMulderOne
      @DavidMulderOne 9 місяців тому +13

      @@antoniousai1989 Engineering problems probably arise from it being between two major tectonic plates. The UK is on the same plate.

    • @antoniousai1989
      @antoniousai1989 9 місяців тому +6

      @@DavidMulderOne Read my previous comment. The channel is also shallow. The Messina's is not flat and continues the slopes of the two sides. It's extremely deep for being not extremely large. The biggest problem by far would be digging 500 meters underground.

  • @gabriele7381
    @gabriele7381 9 місяців тому +63

    I hate when people say we should use the money to update the roads and railways in Sicily as an argument against the bridge. It's obvious that both are necessary, but why on earth should Sicily get a high-speed rail and proper highways without them being connected to mainland Italy? The bridge would bring so many investments and Sicily could have the opportunity to become a major entrance gate for goods to Italy and the EU.

    • @tank-eleven
      @tank-eleven 9 місяців тому +10

      it's a stupid place for an entrance gate, in order to be efficient you want to maximise the distance sailed by ships and minimise the truck/train usage
      makes more sense to build a proper harbour in Sicily and ship from there to Marseille, Genova, Barcelona or somewhere more close and connected to central Europe

    • @lucyhumber6053
      @lucyhumber6053 9 місяців тому +15

      There is 1 single daily train connecting Trapani (located on the west corner of Sicily) and Messina, and it takes approximately 9 HOURS to reach it's destination! But thank God when you get to Messina you'll be able to save 35 whole minutes 😐. It would take only 1.5 BILLIONS to build a high speed railway connecting Sicily's 3 biggest cities. With 12 BILLIONS you could build high speed railroads connecting ALL of southern Italy. This bridge is a complete WASTE of money!

    • @bababababababa6124
      @bababababababa6124 9 місяців тому +2

      That’s always a stupid idea against any projects. In my country Nigeria people were ACTUALLY against us building our high speed rail because our roads are bad and they should “focus on that”. It’s a dumb rhetoric

    • @JeepTJ
      @JeepTJ 9 місяців тому +12

      The fact that the bridge will make Sicily a logistic hub is 100% fake and nonsense. As said above you want to maximize the distance sailed by ship

    • @gabriele7381
      @gabriele7381 9 місяців тому +8

      ​@@lucyhumber6053 FS is already working to modernise the rail lines between Palermo, Catania and Messina, with top speeds of 250km/h. The cost is 11.2 billion euros, and it's not even to build a real high speed rail. I don't know where you got that 1.5 billion. There are also other works on minor rail lines.
      In any case, it's simply impossible to build a true high-speed network in Sicily without having a connection to the mainland, it would be a complete waste of money. As for the daily train from Trapani to Messina, maybe blame the region since the rolling stock is a regional competence.

  • @pesetskyps
    @pesetskyps 9 місяців тому +3

    Football visualization idea is brilliant 😅

  • @fb55255
    @fb55255 9 місяців тому +18

    For more information on the bridge such as the documentation I would suggest getting in contact with Webuild as they are quite active on UA-cam. Otherwise channels like Geopop, Comunicazione Tecnologica and StaticaFacile have done great videos on the subject and are probably willing to help. Hoping to see a follow up video from you with construction details.

  • @robertshelton3796
    @robertshelton3796 9 місяців тому +11

    LOL I despise what you call football but the bit at 6:00 was gold. Nice work!

  • @MadridWalker
    @MadridWalker 9 місяців тому +1

    Your content is so great mate! Thanks for sharing!

  • @SuperTommox
    @SuperTommox 9 місяців тому +9

    This whole bridge has become a meme in Italy at this point 😂

  • @ThomasBarth-gr1sz
    @ThomasBarth-gr1sz 9 місяців тому +8

    it seems to me that, politics aside, the Italians can feel there is a high likelihood that this project might fail (which would end catastrophically), so they think it's better not to even try. Maybe in the future, if the conditions are all optimal, but not right now.

  • @MarryKrropka
    @MarryKrropka 9 місяців тому

    B1M's content gives off a true documentary vibe, and the quality is absolutely on point! 🎥👌🌟

  • @BoomVang
    @BoomVang 9 місяців тому +3

    Currently a ferry strike throws even local train service into chaos. Local Sicily trains tend to originate in mainland Italy.

  • @zharkoo
    @zharkoo 9 місяців тому +5

    The football animation was brilliant... 10 out of 10

  • @donactdum6635
    @donactdum6635 9 місяців тому +5

    Dude I fully laughed my ass off during the football meme lmfao

  • @felipe.hylian
    @felipe.hylian 9 місяців тому +5

    As always, B1M has great videos about engineering and construction. Please do a video about Chacao Brigde, largest suspension bridge in the southern hemisphere and currently under construction.

  • @CardplayerLifestyle
    @CardplayerLifestyle 9 місяців тому +1

    The soccer analogy! Dude, you just keep killing it and delighting us all in new ways with each video. Thank you, as always, for the constructu-tainment!

  • @yemenita
    @yemenita 9 місяців тому +8

    you know more about the bridge than the Minister of Infrastructure

    • @MrNoncredo
      @MrNoncredo 9 місяців тому

      te lo spiega direttamente salvini🤡

  • @cliffwoodbury5319
    @cliffwoodbury5319 9 місяців тому +4

    I have watched so many videos on this and have read several articles on it also.... Will be interesting when they build it being they have wanted a bridge or tunnel there since roman times.

  • @jamesknapp64
    @jamesknapp64 9 місяців тому +2

    As an American I love B1M gives me visuals of what places around the world are doing.

  • @EmmeCalde
    @EmmeCalde 9 місяців тому

    Amazing content, as always!

  • @ColeSpolaric
    @ColeSpolaric 9 місяців тому +3

    I also read something where Italians were protesting it over migratory bird concerns.

  • @biskero
    @biskero 9 місяців тому +3

    the group of engineers in charge wrote, in the feasibility study, that this bridge cannot be build because the materials needed to sustain it do not exists yet.

  • @luizvictoriobaptistaneto1561
    @luizvictoriobaptistaneto1561 9 місяців тому

    Like always, awesome video!

  • @dominiclester3232
    @dominiclester3232 9 місяців тому

    Great video, thanks!

  • @djpalmer31
    @djpalmer31 9 місяців тому +7

    Looking at the place where the Sicilian side will be it looks like they would have to do a lot of demolition of existing properties to build the tower and approach road. The bridge would funnel a lot of traffic towards a narrow strip of land.

  • @Goxilla
    @Goxilla 9 місяців тому +5

    Almost 3 millions subs. You guys came a long way and I´m glad I was there for the journey

  • @alleymed0250
    @alleymed0250 9 місяців тому

    Keep up the good work, thank you

  • @GeekyMedia
    @GeekyMedia 9 місяців тому

    The football analogy is SUPERB!!! Another great video guys

  • @saranobutt
    @saranobutt 9 місяців тому +9

    This is why I love you guys, you guys come up with things that no one ever thinks of.

  • @ElusiveTy
    @ElusiveTy 9 місяців тому +3

    This sounds somewhat similar to the proposal to build a bridge between Tasmania and mainland Australia across the Bass Strait, or even between North and South Islands in New Zealand.
    Really dangerous waters and so most construction is put on ice.

    • @kenoliver8913
      @kenoliver8913 4 місяці тому

      But the Straits of Messina are far, far narrower than either of these. The point of doing it with a suspension bridge rather than cable-stayed or cantilevered is that you can make a single span long enough to cross the strait - it becomes irrelevant how dangerous the waters are because there is no obstacles or construction in them.

  • @stefanschneider3681
    @stefanschneider3681 9 місяців тому

    Loved the „tossed around“-intermezzo 🤣!

  • @Matityahu755
    @Matityahu755 9 місяців тому

    Loved the soccer analogy, just pure brilliance.

  • @enrymather
    @enrymather 8 місяців тому +4

    I'm Italian and worked in public administration for a while. The reason why no one replied to you might just be that it's pretty common in our disorganized and often understaffed public offices to fall behind schedule when it comes to replying to people's letters and requests. Some employees don't care at all about that part of their work (some don't care about their work altogether) and generally speaking there has never been any real push for the public sector to become faster and more efficient in examining enquiries from the public, as this is not seen as a crucial part of public administration's work. Beyond that, public entrustments and calls for tender are typically a bureaucratic nightmare in Italy due to the maze of oftentimes obscure and contradicting laws and the lack of serious coordination between different responsible offices (and hence the long back-and-forth)... plus many other factors at play. Welcome to Italy!

  • @opinionatedopiner
    @opinionatedopiner 9 місяців тому +3

    Right next to a massive active volcano that could at any moment make a satellite cone near the bridge and render it useless. There are satellite cones and ancient lava tubes all over the island.

  • @barondugger
    @barondugger 9 місяців тому

    The soccer analogy was hysterical... and extremely enlightening. Bravo!

  • @felixfromearth
    @felixfromearth 9 місяців тому

    Awesome video!

  • @Merethos
    @Merethos 9 місяців тому +5

    Italy can also build a tunnel. Like the tunnel from Fehmarn to Denmark with a High-Speed Road and High-Speed Rail tracks, that would be a much better solution, than a bridge. This tunnel would be more protected from Wind and the sea and it could build earthquake save. I think Italy can furthermore get EU funding for this project.

    • @jacopoborgia
      @jacopoborgia 9 місяців тому

      what about earthquakes? can a tunnel handle it better than a bridge?

    • @nishu413
      @nishu413 9 місяців тому +1

      Actually yes . Tunnel handle earthquake better than any above ground structure.
      Reason is simple. Tunnel is inside ground and will move with ground while above ground structure will resist earth's movement due to inertia.
      This resistance only caused bridge to collapse. That's why in this bridge design they have added features like buffers to have deck movement.
      I donot remember any tunnel getting damage due to earthquake.

    • @nishu413
      @nishu413 9 місяців тому +1

      But tunnels are way slow to make and waya way way more expensive. Last of not least , so scale which they have planned. They will need 3 tunnels. 1 rail tunnel and 2 road tunnels

  • @iFukuyama
    @iFukuyama 9 місяців тому +3

    Wouldn't the two supports be on opposite sides of the fault line? Seems like a big deal to gloss over

  • @jeanmkaufmann
    @jeanmkaufmann 9 місяців тому

    The football commentary was amazing. A perfect way to explain it simply. 🙂🇨🇦

  • @boredgrass
    @boredgrass 8 місяців тому

    I ...may need one or another go to keep it in my head, but the project history lesson was divine 🥰❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @Deckzwabber
    @Deckzwabber 9 місяців тому +8

    I'm obviously no expert. But I feel investing just a small percentage of the bridge cost into the ferry service could give the Messina strait the best and fastest ferries in the world, which will be a lot less vulnerable to earthquakes than the world's longest suspension bridge.

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 9 місяців тому +4

      The traffic capacity of the bridge will be many. many times that of the largest and fastest fleet of ferries.

    • @Enrico-
      @Enrico- 8 місяців тому

      nuclear powered ferries?

  • @danielefabbro822
    @danielefabbro822 9 місяців тому +3

    By the way... it's funny how foreign press come out punctually with things like public debt of Italy like it's a thing to take into account or even considering it as a "doomering" things for our economy.
    Since the start of such "crisis" of the debt in 1980 till today, the public debt of Italy was owned almost esclusively by Italian economic actors. Basically we own our own debt.
    There's basically no way this will ever affect negatively our economy.
    It always makes me smile when I see such things. 🙂😝

    • @Enrico-
      @Enrico- 8 місяців тому

      Foreign or domestic you still have to pay it

  • @paxdriver
    @paxdriver 9 місяців тому

    I bet you were leary of making a video on a project that nobody will talk about, but this is one of my favourite vids you've made. The footy debriefing was amazing btw lol well done

  • @shay7938
    @shay7938 9 місяців тому +1

    Love the content. Got a video idea for ya. I’m in Gran Canaria at the moment and the highway they are building around the coast of the island is insane. I’m sure it would be an interesting research

  • @daviabraga
    @daviabraga 9 місяців тому +3

    Great content, especially about such a delicate topic for Italians! But it's funny that a "major chanel for construction" doesn't know how to present units. Following the SI general rules, it should say km/h, not kmph or simply km. Also, there's always a space between the figure and the unit, so when mentioning the wind speed you say 300 km/h, not 300km. Cheers!

  • @OhBelin
    @OhBelin 9 місяців тому +23

    To understand the fear Italians have about the bridge you need to know the history of the Salerno reggio calabria freeway

  • @mpdirigent
    @mpdirigent 9 місяців тому

    THAT animation. . . . was BRILLIANT.

  • @louisguilbault4694
    @louisguilbault4694 9 місяців тому

    Very interesting. I especially liked the clever video soccer/football game showing how the project has been kicked between various politicians and organizations over the years.

  • @baywesty
    @baywesty 9 місяців тому +5

    After the Genoa Bridge scandal revelation, I think I will pass and take the ferry no matter what happens...

  • @MassiveBuild
    @MassiveBuild 9 місяців тому +6

    It was great as always, as you know this bridge has secrets

    • @stevenlee3278
      @stevenlee3278 9 місяців тому

      That’s why the bridge is so big, it’s full of secrets

    • @ziloj-perezivat
      @ziloj-perezivat 9 місяців тому

      Dont worry I dont plan to. Kid@DontReadMyProfilePicture.57

  • @JW-lr1mc
    @JW-lr1mc 9 місяців тому

    Well done

  • @starlus50
    @starlus50 9 місяців тому

    I love that analogy

  • @felineboy1586
    @felineboy1586 9 місяців тому +3

    I think its shameful that one bridge is making so much trouble for such a developed country

  • @Ignore_this_channel
    @Ignore_this_channel 9 місяців тому +6

    Italy should rebuild the roads they have neglected. Worst in Europe. And why not solve the trash problem? Such a disaster.

    • @stijnhs
      @stijnhs 9 місяців тому

      Because almost all the trash in Italy is handled by the maffia who typically don't like being told what to do.

  • @nathanngumi8467
    @nathanngumi8467 9 місяців тому

    Very interesting!

  • @chriswaldrip2739
    @chriswaldrip2739 9 місяців тому

    That metaphor was brilliant!

  • @MAAAAAAAXime
    @MAAAAAAAXime 9 місяців тому +4

    I know why you didn't have answers, you did business the anglo saxon way : you sent an email and expected an answer.
    To be able to work with Italians, you should have simply contacted the boss and tell him you want to meet him, then you have lunch with him, you talk of everything but the bridge, and at the end you'll have all the details you want !
    However, they might want to keep it secret because it will be an expensive project with many political implications (Sicily won't be an island no more, for starter), it will costs a lot of money and the populist in government usually oppose those big spendings of money (like the Lyon Turin tunnel)

  • @MartijnPennings
    @MartijnPennings 9 місяців тому +5

    Please explain why Amsterdam, a city with 1900 bridges, has still not bridged the water between the center and the north, a peaceful body of water, not on any fault lines or in any wind tunnels, only 300 meters wide and instead opts for hundreds of ferries per day, moving more than 100,000 passengers per day....

    • @xpehkto
      @xpehkto 4 місяці тому

      Isn't there a metro line under that place, which makes a bridge kind of unnecessary?

  • @matteofalduto766
    @matteofalduto766 9 місяців тому +2

    I've loved the football metaphor :) Just two minor notes about that: It should be Impreg-IL-o instead of Impreg-LI-o and Giuseppe Cont-E instead of Cont-I

  • @IntrinsicNRJ
    @IntrinsicNRJ 9 місяців тому +2

    B1M soccer is innovating where FIFA never will. Viva B1M visual arts and B1MFC!

  • @jorehir
    @jorehir 9 місяців тому +3

    You can see the official design of the bridge here:
    ua-cam.com/video/hdLF8GyPO_o/v-deo.html

  • @Hession0Drasha
    @Hession0Drasha 9 місяців тому +3

    More people live in sicily than in ireland

  • @bibekdas5595
    @bibekdas5595 9 місяців тому +1

    The B1M is the my favourite you tube channel

  • @gurkdoinwork
    @gurkdoinwork 7 місяців тому

    lol that soccer section explaining the hiccups along the way was fantastic