Most Ryu mains will tell you that he's in a good place but no way near top tier. I dunno why UA-camrs are intent on spinning that narrative. Top tier means he's an equal matchup to Akuma Rashid Bison Ken Cammy. That's plain ridiculous
@@artenstien7100 While I agree with that top 5 ( I wanna threw Luke on that same tier too), I've seen this story before. Ryu gets a good patch, then in like a month you see Ryus in C tier from some FGC influencer's tiermaker video. I'll wait and see through
Can't go wrong with the Alpha 3 soundtrack. At the beginning of the video. Heard Vega's Alpha 3 theme and Karin's theme from Alpha 3. Alpha 2 Chun theme playing as well. The classic themes are just awesome.
I'd love to see you play again as Ed. He's my favorite and I am still learning how to get better at fighting games, would love to hear some tips and see some more gameplay!
If Ryu, Ken, and Akuma were mysteriously removed, EVERYONE would suddenly suck at sf 😆 It's embarrassing how bad people wanna win that they take credit for winning with the best characters in the game like... bro, c'mon, challenge yourself!
Literally and everyone uses these characters every match ur playing 1 of them 3 mostly ryu That in itself tells u there good characters and ppl still downplay
They've only been blessing Ryu with the buffs with these patches, I hope they don't neglect the other characters though, like they've done with Manon and Lily (supposedly).
Honestly ryu still loses a lot of matchups, he has good tools for the most part but most other characters have tools specifically built to deal with him so it’s kinda hard. Like literally every character has an anti fireball or better walk speed that hurts his mix ups. Ryu deserves some love
As a Manon main like literally I only play Manon which is weird to say nowadays…anyway I think Ryu is balanced as fuck..I think Akuma is alil cheap but still well mannered knowing his history. But its something that triggers me with Ken in SF6 and it’s Not Kens fault its characters with a lot of forward moving normals…having bnbs that take you to the corner combined with the previous is redic top tier shit in this game imo….yes Ryu hits like a truck but thats it..he has to actually hit you..which he will😂but atleast its fair
If I had a nickel for every UA-cam video with this exact title, I would be the richest man in the world. Every SF5 and SF6 patch, they buff Ryu, and people think he's top tier. A few months go by, and people start saying he's bad again, and repeat. It's weird to me how much people care about what tier a character is. I like Ryu's playstyle, and it doesn't matter much to me where he fits on a tier list.
just justin. Probably baiting hard, unless he really thinks so, but i don't believe it. The past 4 videos he made on Ryu all had the same top tier bait title, one for every patch i think. And you know what happened, ryu was not top tier and didn't even appear much anyways. Even current patch, the latest King of the World only EW 1 ryu, and i think he only made 16-24. Think EW's just trying Ryu back cuz Ed got nerfed as well, who knows when he'll go back to Ed.
Im saying it here, onlines fucking cracked, cheating/scripts/smurfs are getting out of control. big youtubers need to draw attention to the issue or its never getting any better.
@@RitzScythehe's prob someone with auto throw tech. Not to mention the lag switch shit going on or however the ping is going from 30 to 180 whenever I'm winning lol.
Majority of the people complaining about the jump cancel “nerf” on Geif probably don’t understand or just don’t even do it. Geif downplayers uniting like the justice league
Maybe top-tier in the Masters bracket. He's still just average at best. I would say he went from mid B-tier to high B-tier. His mix up game is still lacking and predictable.
So, tell me Justin, since you're the autority on SF games, I want you to refute my arguments about Ryu. This character is absolute dog shit. I'll start with the main issue, which is the lack of anything in the diagonal (offensively or defensively), upwards or downwards. While the majority of the characters have something to "converge" real quick or "fill in" the diagonal. People literally rank up to master by being a scrub and abusing that and then they plateau and can't do shit against really good anti-air players and start to create new accounts to "test" new characters. The second issue is the anti-air itself and how linear the character is. DP is a joke, the reach is short, it only hits on it's very front (just compare to Bison's, AKI or Akuma normal AA that literally hit on their back). Besides, it trades with some normals during the air. It does baby damage and you're -10000 when whiffing. Compare that with other characters who can juggle after a normal AA or don't leave the ground (like Gief). The reach itself is a huge issue since other characters zigzag in the air or change their air trajectory. And when you try to air to air some characters you get thrown in the air, which Ryu can't do it, obviously, lol The fireball is big joke. The air heavy kick hitbox is another joke, I've seen countless times going through the opponents (from the front) without doing anything. How about his normals? Well, EVERYTHING is telegraphed. You don't need to be a martial art specialist to notice that his style gives away what he's gonna throw at you. As an example, just look how he telegraphs his overhead and compare to how other characters do. I can't believe I'm the only person to notice that, honestly. Meanwhile, you have people teleporting on your back, converging on you real quick, sliding safe, being plus for ways, having extremelly safe AAs, etc. It's a circus. The truth is, you can become master by, for example, being a random Blanka, doing crazy shit zigzaging, waking up EX ball every time you're pressured, etc and you need a lot of discipline to play Ryu. I'm tired of who make a living playing the game saying the character is great and all.
@ I’d have to go back but you can cancel FADC from almost every button. He was def close to the top in vanilla sf4 but that was probably more due to how good DP + FADC was and the damage he got from it, made him mini-Sagat lolol. Also when trying to reply I got my post deleted. Said SFxT which is regular special cancellable and sf4 with the FADC mechanic. The alpha series is its own thing but yeah he’s up there in sfa1 and 3 too. @phaze EDIT: went back and yeah too much SFxT on the brain. No cancel into ex fadc with sweep but Ryu top tier anyway in other games.
Top tier? Absolutely not. High damage output, but much is to be desired in neutral game and fireball game. Needs better frames on fireball. Outside of corner meaty setups, practically useless special in this zero-neutral game.
Nearly every Ryu main especially from top Ryu Youtubbers that I know disagree with this. Not even Daigo said he is top tier, and only recently, Daigo said Ryu doesn't have the tools to make him want to go back to him and the last top Ryu was back in Street Fighter 4. Sure. Ryu got buffs with a few of his combo "extensions" but he is still the same ol' Ryu that everyone been saying is mid tier pre-patch. Even the pre-patch info clearly highlighted this. He hasn't been given anything significant enough to regard him as top-tier or to even move up there, especially when compared to the likes ot Dee Jay. Even in this video, you didn't use any of the buff to determine Ryu as part of the top tier athlon where Bison, Akuma and Cammy sits. I wouldn't be surprised if Ryu wouldn't get anything after seeing videos like this from a top FGC influencer and others that have done something similar. Not a great message unless you was actually encouraging more players to use Ryu, which is different. I guess it's all about the clicks, like what Punk did. Oh well.
Ryu mains are gonna be like prime Kobe when it comes to downplaying this season.
We Ryu mains Do not Care
@SuperFusionAJ93 CAP! Y'all care the most.
Most Ryu mains will tell you that he's in a good place but no way near top tier. I dunno why UA-camrs are intent on spinning that narrative. Top tier means he's an equal matchup to Akuma Rashid Bison Ken Cammy. That's plain ridiculous
@@artenstien7100 While I agree with that top 5 ( I wanna threw Luke on that same tier too), I've seen this story before.
Ryu gets a good patch, then in like a month you see Ryus in C tier from some FGC influencer's tiermaker video.
I'll wait and see through
@@MindoftheNorthStar luke and ryu and definitely not top 5
The Wazzler: "You must defeat Umehara to stand a chance!"
Ryu still the face of street fighter
I would love for capcom to bring back the street fighter alpha series remastered. I would be playing 24/7 every day like a crack addict .
I'm a Marisa main, and he hasn't felt much different to fight. The game plan is still the same. Kim is the only one that has felt a little different.
Makes sense cause I don't think people are really using him significantly differently. What's the Marisa gameplay when playing against Ryu though?
I think people need to take advantage of his hashogeki pressure and ability to induce burn out. Mena has a good grasp on it.
@@CJ-nm8sw I agree it seems ever powerful.
Can't go wrong with the Alpha 3 soundtrack. At the beginning of the video. Heard Vega's Alpha 3 theme and Karin's theme from Alpha 3. Alpha 2 Chun theme playing as well.
The classic themes are just awesome.
Im glad we got a shoto top tier now since we sure didn't have that
Here I am, wishing they’d bring back Abigail
I've been playing Chun Li since launch, learned Akuma when he dropped, and tried Ryu recently. And I feel at home.
J Wong, if you link hp**drive rush**hp into back heavy punch drive rush cancel, you can do solar plexus into axe kick.
Thanks for uploading some 6 footage
Wazzler is no more, now is J Wong Shoto mode now.
"Shoryuken" will from hence forth be called "Sure You Can!!!"
oh man, I love seeing justin playing. Hope you can get back in the game and compete in some tournaments
I'd love to see you play again as Ed. He's my favorite and I am still learning how to get better at fighting games, would love to hear some tips and see some more gameplay!
I play Ryu and jp and it really does feel like I was slowly taught a lesson on appreciating strong characters.
Donkey kick is ignant now haha
Donkey was already ignorant. Now it’s mad ignorant.
2:21 Is that the Terminator 1 theme song?
“What do you mean by “now”?” probably Kusanagi
4:52 them reactions tho
can’t believe hop kick tatsu cancel made him top tier alone
If Ryu, Ken, and Akuma were mysteriously removed, EVERYONE would suddenly suck at sf 😆
It's embarrassing how bad people wanna win that they take credit for winning with the best characters in the game like... bro, c'mon, challenge yourself!
Literally and everyone uses these characters every match ur playing 1 of them 3 mostly ryu
That in itself tells u there good characters and ppl still downplay
They've only been blessing Ryu with the buffs with these patches, I hope they don't neglect the other characters though, like they've done with Manon and Lily (supposedly).
Honestly ryu still loses a lot of matchups, he has good tools for the most part but most other characters have tools specifically built to deal with him so it’s kinda hard. Like literally every character has an anti fireball or better walk speed that hurts his mix ups. Ryu deserves some love
Great video justin wong
The rising dragon 🐉 must be a move associated with high ranks. Let's grow Justin!!! 😇
As a Manon main like literally I only play Manon which is weird to say nowadays…anyway I think Ryu is balanced as fuck..I think Akuma is alil cheap but still well mannered knowing his history. But its something that triggers me with Ken in SF6 and it’s Not Kens fault its characters with a lot of forward moving normals…having bnbs that take you to the corner combined with the previous is redic top tier shit in this game imo….yes Ryu hits like a truck but thats it..he has to actually hit you..which he will😂but atleast its fair
Ken’s pressure is also one of the best in the game
Best dp as well
But Ryu isn’t far behind
@@ellguy1965Ryu's mix-up game is quite predictable and no where near Ken's
ryu playstyle zzzzz.
im happy for ryu. about time
Black hair black jacket Terry out her looking like beefy Trent Reznor
Comboing into overhead feels so cursed
Something CAPCOM should always do for Ryu.
Ryu now is stronger than ever, has a lot of damage and your the linear gameplay dont exist anymore. The character is insane.
WE MADE IT
Does anyone know the BGM playing @ 3:05 ?
Street Fighter Alpha 3 - Crimson (Vega's Theme)
Also, 3:16 is Simple Rating (Karin's theme) from the same game.
bout time they showed respect to the MC of the Series!
What controller is he using?
You should check out the fan game famicon fighters on your next stream its 8 bit but mad polished and sick
If I had a nickel for every UA-cam video with this exact title, I would be the richest man in the world. Every SF5 and SF6 patch, they buff Ryu, and people think he's top tier. A few months go by, and people start saying he's bad again, and repeat. It's weird to me how much people care about what tier a character is. I like Ryu's playstyle, and it doesn't matter much to me where he fits on a tier list.
just justin. Probably baiting hard, unless he really thinks so, but i don't believe it. The past 4 videos he made on Ryu all had the same top tier bait title, one for every patch i think. And you know what happened, ryu was not top tier and didn't even appear much anyways. Even current patch, the latest King of the World only EW 1 ryu, and i think he only made 16-24. Think EW's just trying Ryu back cuz Ed got nerfed as well, who knows when he'll go back to Ed.
They say it because the UA-camr says it so you'll click the video. People can't think for themselves.
Downplaying I see
So true
@@crosscy9387yep it's click bait
Im saying it here, onlines fucking cracked, cheating/scripts/smurfs are getting out of control. big youtubers need to draw attention to the issue or its never getting any better.
No one cheats you just suck lil bro
@rayhamilton4775 no they definitely cheat lol ain't no one pulling off dream combos with less than 2 hours in training get off it lmfao
@rayhamilton4775 wanna know how hard it is to find scripts? Elitepvp has scripts for $5 a day, $10 a week lol.
@@rayhamilton4775scrub reply.
@@RitzScythehe's prob someone with auto throw tech. Not to mention the lag switch shit going on or however the ping is going from 30 to 180 whenever I'm winning lol.
Daigo going back to ryu will let me know
What controller he use😢?
Wait, Justin is Canadian??
I feel some type of way about Justin seeing how good Ryu is but Diago still doesn’t have him as his main…. 😢😢😢
I’m I’ve sf6. GIVE ME SF ALPHA 4! ANIME STYLE, PLUS ACTUAL COOL MUSIC.
Does anyone know what fight stick Justin uses? I want to start using them
CAPCOM ... What do we do to make people play with This character ? Make changes to his mechanic ... Nah... Give him damage
When you gonna get back on Chun Li?
Do you generally play on leverless these days?
Majority of the people complaining about the jump cancel “nerf” on Geif probably don’t understand or just don’t even do it. Geif downplayers uniting like the justice league
Beamthegamer is somewhere with fist raised in solidarity
Cool!
If your 1500 master rank show your skills on higher master rank not just diamond and beginner master rank
How does everyone feel about the patch? Every time i am playing ranked i run into a damn modern user, also how do you feel about that?
Ryu shoryuken dmg is high asf
Need more downplaying. Ryu army wont stop until he is S++++ tier.
Once upon a time, Ryu was the face of the series. But I feel like that’s been lost over time.
I feel like Ryu's still the face of street fighter imo just too iconic
trust me... with these buffs he will be right back to where he was LOL
Not just Street Fighter - Breath of Fire, too. Both until the fifth entry.
Luke is on the cover, but I feel like more people definitely know Ryu still
Ryu is the 🐐
Maybe top-tier in the Masters bracket. He's still just average at best. I would say he went from mid B-tier to high B-tier. His mix up game is still lacking and predictable.
Even on modern controllers? Is he still top tier?
Didn't you make this video already?
That chun was bad wtf
coolies ^______^
How good is terry?...
No he is not lol. He’s better though
He's pretty clearly top 10 which is a lot higher than the mid/low tier Ryu mains downplay him as
@@thehobojarpen fight Guile and tell me the difference.
@@josephjones5955 "i have a hard time with this character therefore the matchup is bad"
Guile is also top 10 and extremely cheesy
Ryu definitely top tier
Everybody is playing Chun Li nowadays?
Not at all she’s bottom 10 used rn
Precisam nerfar o JP
Still prefer Ken if I'm honest.
No shoto character can compare to Ken.
So, tell me Justin, since you're the autority on SF games, I want you to refute my arguments about Ryu.
This character is absolute dog shit.
I'll start with the main issue, which is the lack of anything in the diagonal (offensively or defensively), upwards or downwards. While the majority of the characters have something to "converge" real quick or "fill in" the diagonal. People literally rank up to master by being a scrub and abusing that and then they plateau and can't do shit against really good anti-air players and start to create new accounts to "test" new characters.
The second issue is the anti-air itself and how linear the character is. DP is a joke, the reach is short, it only hits on it's very front (just compare to Bison's, AKI or Akuma normal AA that literally hit on their back). Besides, it trades with some normals during the air. It does baby damage and you're -10000 when whiffing. Compare that with other characters who can juggle after a normal AA or don't leave the ground (like Gief). The reach itself is a huge issue since other characters zigzag in the air or change their air trajectory. And when you try to air to air some characters you get thrown in the air, which Ryu can't do it, obviously, lol
The fireball is big joke. The air heavy kick hitbox is another joke, I've seen countless times going through the opponents (from the front) without doing anything.
How about his normals? Well, EVERYTHING is telegraphed. You don't need to be a martial art specialist to notice that his style gives away what he's gonna throw at you. As an example, just look how he telegraphs his overhead and compare to how other characters do. I can't believe I'm the only person to notice that, honestly.
Meanwhile, you have people teleporting on your back, converging on you real quick, sliding safe, being plus for ways, having extremelly safe AAs, etc. It's a circus.
The truth is, you can become master by, for example, being a random Blanka, doing crazy shit zigzaging, waking up EX ball every time you're pressured, etc and you need a lot of discipline to play Ryu.
I'm tired of who make a living playing the game saying the character is great and all.
Usually any game Ryu is top tier in, it’s a game that he can cancel sweep into special moves. Will this be the exception!?
Hell no its still way better characters than ryu he good but not great
Wasn't he able to cancel sweep only in sf2? He is still top tier in alpha and alpha 3 without canceling sweep into specials
@@psychobluesfxt he can not cancel sweep to fadc that wouldve been broken
@ I’d have to go back but you can cancel FADC from almost every button. He was def close to the top in vanilla sf4 but that was probably more due to how good DP + FADC was and the damage he got from it, made him mini-Sagat lolol. Also when trying to reply I got my post deleted. Said SFxT which is regular special cancellable and sf4 with the FADC mechanic. The alpha series is its own thing but yeah he’s up there in sfa1 and 3 too.
@phaze
EDIT: went back and yeah too much SFxT on the brain. No cancel into ex fadc with sweep but Ryu top tier anyway in other games.
Ryu is the reason why people don't play Marisa, glad he is good again!
I mean still play Marisa
I play more Marisa more than ever now
1 view club
Top tier? Absolutely not. High damage output, but much is to be desired in neutral game and fireball game. Needs better frames on fireball. Outside of corner meaty setups, practically useless special in this zero-neutral game.
Hes not top tier. Ending walker is using him and hes worse than when he was using ed
Nearly every Ryu main especially from top Ryu Youtubbers that I know disagree with this. Not even Daigo said he is top tier, and only recently, Daigo said Ryu doesn't have the tools to make him want to go back to him and the last top Ryu was back in Street Fighter 4. Sure. Ryu got buffs with a few of his combo "extensions" but he is still the same ol' Ryu that everyone been saying is mid tier pre-patch. Even the pre-patch info clearly highlighted this. He hasn't been given anything significant enough to regard him as top-tier or to even move up there, especially when compared to the likes ot Dee Jay. Even in this video, you didn't use any of the buff to determine Ryu as part of the top tier athlon where Bison, Akuma and Cammy sits. I wouldn't be surprised if Ryu wouldn't get anything after seeing videos like this from a top FGC influencer and others that have done something similar. Not a great message unless you was actually encouraging more players to use Ryu, which is different. I guess it's all about the clicks, like what Punk did. Oh well.
bro your ryu is booty 😭
Do Modern Ryu again please