South Bend Lathe Restoration - Start to Finish

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • I took clips from the videos that I recorded while restoring this 13" South Bend Lathe built in 1941 and strung them together to show an example of the whole process. I had a lot of fun doing this restoration. There were some frustrating moments, but it feels good to have to "done." Of course, for me, it'll never really be done. There is more I could do to improve the lathe, such as having the ways ground and then scraping the saddle, but those things will have to wait. On to other projects!
    Full videos:
    Part 1 - Unloading • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 2 - Tailstock • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 3 - Three Jaw Chuck • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 4 - Thread Chasing Dial • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 5 - Compound Disassembly • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 6 - Cross Slide Disassembly • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 7 - Gear Train Disassembly • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 8 - Gear Box Disassembly • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 9 - Apron Disassembly • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 10 - Headstock Disassembly • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 11 - Bed, Legs, Motor and Chip Pan Disassembly • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 12 - Motor and Bed Assembly • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 13 - Saddle, Cross Slide and Compound Assembly • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 14 - Gear Box Assembly • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 15 - Headstock Assembly • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 16 - Apron Assembly • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 17 - Motor Wiring • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
    Part 18 - Primary Gear Train • 1941 South Bend 13" La...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 111

  • @davidhowells-rl9li
    @davidhowells-rl9li 5 днів тому +1

    Nice restoration, good colour choice, should serve byou well for another fifty year's ( how many man hours)?.

  • @ronin3699
    @ronin3699 Рік тому +2

    What paint did you use? Looks great!

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  Рік тому +1

      Rustoleum Smoke Grey enamel pain. Thanks for the kind words!

  • @paulmanhart4481
    @paulmanhart4481 Рік тому +1

    This looks identical to my SB heavy 10 L. I love the color you chose. Can you tell me what primer and paint was applied?
    How did you keep track of all those parts?
    Great job.
    Paul

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  Рік тому

      Thank you! These South Bends are nice machined. No primer. Just Rustoleum enamel paint from a can, Smoke Grey. Primer really isn't necessary on rough castings. It's been holding up great for a few years now. As far as the parts, I put everything into cheap plastic containers I bought from the local Dollar Store and then wrote on the lid in Sharpie. I will say, having it on video was a great help, because I was always able to refer to the disassembly video to remember how it went together. 😂

  • @unclematt7223
    @unclematt7223 Рік тому +1

    Beautiful Job, make me wanna restore my 1947 Southbend 14 1/2

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  Рік тому +1

      I'd encourage you to do that. I enjoyed this so much, I've done something similar to a Bridgeport, a K&T horizontal mill, and have a small shaper and ANOTHER 13" South Bend I plan on rehabbing. It's a lot of fun.

  • @danarbuckle6640
    @danarbuckle6640 8 місяців тому +2

    Great work!

  • @klausoldscool7081
    @klausoldscool7081 14 днів тому +1

    Sehr schöne arbeit. Habe eine Mondiale M zum restaurieren. könntest DU mir bitte helfen?

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  13 днів тому

      Ich habe auf Ihre E-Mail geantwortet. Ich hoffe, Sie finden die Informationen für Ihr Projekt nützlich. Danke fürs Zuschauen!

  • @paulbfields8284
    @paulbfields8284 Рік тому +2

    Bravo!!! Served my apprenticeship under my father in our own shop back in the 80’s.. we had a restored Model A 9” and I loved it. Your After pic made me want to chuck it up and turn something right away. Very nice and outstanding work. You should be proud ..

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  Рік тому

      Thank you. I had a lot of fun, so much so, I have another one I hope to get started in the next 6 months!

  • @normsweet1710
    @normsweet1710 Рік тому +2

    Great job ! Solid, accurate, done rite!

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching!

    • @normsweet1710
      @normsweet1710 Рік тому +1

      @@MyLilMule I’m working on an Artisian 12 X 24 . Very old, 1923 I think. # 505 made. 1927 was last year, I think. I bought it to do one job, when that’s done the next fella can own it.

  • @ΓιαννηςΓριζοπουλος

    Nice job amazing lathe congratulations sir.
    Best regards from Greece John Grizopoulos retired machinist

  • @mcgama88
    @mcgama88 Рік тому +2

    I am very happy to be restoring a South Bend model C of 1935 build of 4 foot bed. Saved from an old wheat terminal area I cleaned and managed a best refit to working components. Now semi retired, I have more time to complete various shop refit and what I manage to final lathe placement and tool positions. I raised a block stand as fully leveled and continue to slowly forge ahead to full restore.
    What I take note of is what level of quality I must meet as shown to your skill and craftsmanship. Your completed refit is just
    superb. What I truly enjoy is where as chinese mini lathe with tin and plastic, I will take minor wear in stride as the castings and bearings are so durable, the design so well composed it quite still delivers work product. Enjoyed every bit of your post. M.

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  Рік тому

      I am glad you enjoyed it.

    • @mcgama88
      @mcgama88 Рік тому

      @@MyLilMule I was at GE employ after 4 years military. So was within a big shop, just not so much as lathe.
      Now, I miss my machine shop friend who I might have asked about best metal fab, and think up projects.
      With, the south bend and where small, difficult flaws harm precision. But where the unit is so rugged and
      fun to use. I also, repaired the micrometer unit I am using, and designed my own tool post. I confess to using
      soft plastics and non ferrus as projects, as to not see wrecks as bed way and holders.
      And where I continue to add best items to general stock, project aims and tools, fitment and capacity.
      I am keen to Max Grant, an AU toolmaker who I recommend to any machine repair as process and
      where he is very adept to scraping and teaching to set up, repair as lathe and mill.
      A detail I rather studied was your bronze hammer and small punch end use, and the paint.
      The color and finish were so excellent to your work, you see. As well as the controls.
      I hope to continue to have fun as refit to South Bend units and tools. I simply like the sort of
      peaceful and quiet time as might approach a journeyman fitter. My personal regards. M.

  • @precisionmachineshed
    @precisionmachineshed 2 роки тому +1

    That's got to be the best method of removing the motor/countershaft assembly I've seen!

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  2 роки тому

      I can't take the credit for it. Saw it done on another's YT channel.

  • @mechanician7735
    @mechanician7735 3 роки тому +1

    I t's beautiful. I hope my 10L looks at least half as good when I'm done with it.
    Bill

  • @ScottHamilton-ys2cm
    @ScottHamilton-ys2cm Рік тому +3

    Very nice work

  • @ChurkLeung
    @ChurkLeung Рік тому +1

    Did you have a parts diagram before you started? How were you able to keep tracks of all your parts after disassembly? I want to restore one but hesitating due to so many gears and know that I won't be able to put it everything back. I am able to restore minor things like antique scroll saws but this look too complex. This restoration look amazing btw.

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  Рік тому +1

      It's not as complex as it appears. I used two primary resources, aside from the lathe itself. One was a restoration book published by Illion (available on eBay, search for "south bend lathe 13 rebuild package") - very useful, lots of photographs and comes with felts and oils. The other was the Vintage Machinery website. There are hundreds of scans of publications for South Bend lathes including complete parts lists and diagrams.

  • @KevinToppenberg
    @KevinToppenberg 2 роки тому +1

    Well done. Looks like you and I are following a similar path. I am restoring a 1935 15" swing SB right now and making videos of my progress. Best wishes!

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  2 роки тому

      Thanks. I'll be checking out your channel!

  • @petehottois2856
    @petehottois2856 8 місяців тому

    If you need a new variable speed pulley or sheaves, Speed Selector makes pulleys that replace the Reeves, Hi-Lo, TB Woods and Lovejoy pulleys that went out of business or got bought. Most are in stock or Speed Selector will custom make if needed. They have an actual engineering department; very helpful.

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  8 місяців тому

      I have no need. These pulleys are available everywhere since hundreds of thousands of South Bend lathes were manufactured. I don't know why anyone would need an aftermarket pulley. There are no Reeves drives on these lathes.

  • @purushothaman
    @purushothaman 3 роки тому +2

    Beautiful work...

  • @AmateurRedneckWorkshop
    @AmateurRedneckWorkshop 2 роки тому +1

    Looks really good. You would never expect it to come out so nice.

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  2 роки тому

      Thanks. I really enjoyed doing this rebuild. I hope to find another machine in similar shape so I can do it again.

  • @silverbullet7434
    @silverbullet7434 2 роки тому +1

    Nice job , someday I hope to restore my Logan 11" , only owned and used her for forty yrs. Like a Timex she just keeps on chippin.. Only three belts in all that time.

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  2 роки тому

      I lost out on a Logan just before I found this South Bend!

  • @joeclement3680
    @joeclement3680 Рік тому +1

    Abso-dawg-gone-lutley a beautiful work of art that you have there young man!!!

  • @JanetDiaz6152
    @JanetDiaz6152 10 місяців тому +1

    Wow.........

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for watching.

  • @kitmaira
    @kitmaira Рік тому +1

    Impressive!

  • @buildmotion1426
    @buildmotion1426 2 роки тому +2

    You did a great job on your restoration, and wonderfully filmed. I just started my journey on a S/B 16” tool room lathe. I’m sure to be using your footage as a reference.

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  2 роки тому

      Thank you very much! I almost bought a 16" a few months back, but the bids on it went way higher than I expected.

    • @Oldtimeytools
      @Oldtimeytools 9 місяців тому

      How’s the 16” going? I’m doing one now!

    • @buildmotion1426
      @buildmotion1426 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Oldtimeytools I'm just starting to assemble. Some items painted, but not all. Simple high quality machine! Good luck on yours 👍

  • @alanremington8500
    @alanremington8500 Рік тому +1

    Ya know, I think that was the dirtiest lathe I have ever seen. Beautiful job!

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  Рік тому +1

      I've seen worse. LOL. Thanks for watching.

  • @euclidallglorytotheloglady5500
    @euclidallglorytotheloglady5500 2 роки тому +1

    Wonderful work!
    So I was basically given this exact model except for a few different options. It has the turret tail stock, collet closer head stock, and a weird double tool post. It's in slightly worse shape that what you started with judging by looks alone.. Would you recommend going through the rebuild process? With the hard work you put in yours turned out beautiful! Be very proud! I guess my big concern is the platform able to produce extremely accurate parts? I've never operated a south bend and have only heard charter online.

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  2 роки тому +1

      My lathe is a bit worn, but the spindle is in decent shape. As such, I can work around the wear in the bed ways and make accurate parts. Sounds like your machine was configured for more production work. The turret makes changing tools fast and the double tool post is usually set for the front to be a typical turning tool and the back side to be a cut off tool. When making the same part dozens or hundreds of times a day, having those features are a must. They are still useful in an every day setting, of course.
      I do think it is worth doing some level of a rebuild if you want the lathe to be that much more usable. The oil felts alone are worth taking it apart. If the lathe sat for any length of time, they may be too dried up to be usable. Plus, you never know what a previous owner did to it. Digging into it will take some work, but I would do it again in a heartbeat. I learned a LOT about this lathe and have no worries should something go bad - I already know I can take it apart and I've built up enough confidence that I can probably fix whatever it needs.
      My advice: DO IT. You'll have a blast.

    • @euclidallglorytotheloglady5500
      @euclidallglorytotheloglady5500 2 роки тому

      @@MyLilMule That's exactly what I was wanting to hear. The past week I've done lots of looking around and parts seem available and I've seen rebuild kits for the felts.
      Guess I'll be in a cave for the winter. Thanks!

  • @Pistolero-
    @Pistolero- Рік тому +2

    And the sound scape music is relaxing.

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  Рік тому

      Happy you like it, too. Thanks for watching!

  • @RichFife
    @RichFife Рік тому

    How long are those wooden skids?
    I'm moving a 16" tomorrow. Lol

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  Рік тому

      I believe they were 6' 4x4s.

  • @GaryT1952
    @GaryT1952 3 роки тому +1

    Really enjoyed this whole series MLM...on to the Bridgeport 💪

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  3 роки тому +1

      I've been going back and forth on if I am going to just get the mill running now and use it for a while, or jump into a full restoration this fall. We'll see. :)

  • @aniljadav2743
    @aniljadav2743 2 роки тому +1

    Wonder full job

  • @georgespangler1517
    @georgespangler1517 2 роки тому

    Restored 7 lathes and a Sheldon horizontal mill some 1940s and never used heat and wouldn't recommend it,, maybe propane are map but not oxcy..

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  2 роки тому

      There's more than one way to skin a cat.

    • @georgespangler1517
      @georgespangler1517 2 роки тому

      @@MyLilMule I hear ya,, I've rebuild many quick change gear boxes the heat would worry me as far as expansion that's really old cast iron. But you go it all that matters

  • @kentuckytrapper780
    @kentuckytrapper780 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent job man, I'm restoring a cincinnati tray top 18×54 right now, I do two to three machines a year, the best way to get to know your equipment, excellent work..

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  2 роки тому

      Isn't that the truth! I don't know why a lot of folks are afraid to dig into them, but I know I was, too. LOL. If I found another Southbend at a great price like this one, I'd do it again. I keep my eye open all the time for one, or even something like the one you are working on. I'd like to find a similar era Monarch gear head lathe, rebuild it and then I'd sell off the Southbend.
      I'm looking forward to getting started on my Bridgeport. I'd like to find a K&T Model 1 or 2 sometime in the next few years that I can add to my shop.

    • @kentuckytrapper780
      @kentuckytrapper780 2 роки тому

      @@MyLilMule I've got a #2 universal k&t mill to restore it runs great, war finish 1944, got a model A monarch lathe 1880s, got a 1896 Camelback drill press made in buffalo n.y, need to sale a few,lol..
      Got a early 1900s pratt&whitney lathe it's restored, got two sebastian lathes also 16×54--18×54..I use them daily..

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  2 роки тому

      @@kentuckytrapper780 Awesome problem to have. :) The K&T #1 or #2 is top of my list for machines I'd want (just one of them). If the timing was better, there was one for sale not too awful far from me for less than $1k.

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  2 роки тому

      @Wujek Wladek I can't say for sure, I didn't keep track. But it was about 3 months of occasional evenings and weekends. I didn't work in it every day, or even every week.

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  2 роки тому

      @Wujek Wladek You can make small parts on a big lathe, but you can't make big parts on a small lathe. My lathe has some wear in the ways that I have to account for when making some things, but for smaller parts, it doesn't come into play. One day, when I make a collet chuck, it'll be more precise than I will ever really need.

  • @Diydia_Gosha
    @Diydia_Gosha 2 роки тому +1

    👍🔥 Отличная работа.Удачи.

  • @northlander1948
    @northlander1948 Рік тому

    Very cool, how much was the lathe in that condition?

  • @ponga782
    @ponga782 Рік тому +1

    That is one fine lookin machine!

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  Рік тому

      Thank you for the kind words.

  • @mybreathyourlung
    @mybreathyourlung Рік тому

    What is the description and purpose of the string-like material used at 16:10?

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  Рік тому +1

      Oil wick. It picks up oil from the oil cups or the bottom of the apron and lubricates the other moving shafts.

    • @mybreathyourlung
      @mybreathyourlung Рік тому +1

      @@MyLilMule Interesting, that’s new to me. Thanks for the reply and info! Beautiful work.

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  Рік тому

      @@mybreathyourlung You're welcome. And thank YOU for watching!

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown 3 роки тому

    What a beautiful Video....and an even more Beautiful restoration on your 13".....These past two days I have been going over my recent 13" purchase and cleaning and checking wear.....I will never attempt the depth of restoration that you have done......I would never get it back together.....so best leave it alone......Thank You so much for sharing your journey with us.....Bravo and Cheersfrom Orlando Florida, Paul

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  3 роки тому

      If I can do it, anyone can. It is WORTH IT, for nothing else, than to make sure those oil wicks are in good shape. Lack of oil can be deadly to these machines.

  • @tdg911
    @tdg911 2 роки тому +1

    Very nice work.

  • @nta699
    @nta699 Рік тому

    The background music was as soothing/relaxing as watching you work. Good job with the restoration.

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  Рік тому

      Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @wyattselleck7236
    @wyattselleck7236 2 роки тому

    She didn’t give up her beauty without a fight. Well done. Thank you for sharing. Liked and Subscribed.

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the sub! I've been keeping my eye out for another similar bargain. I had so much fun restoring this one, I want to do it again.

  • @butchgardner1441
    @butchgardner1441 3 роки тому

    Excellent series.... My 16" is now off trailer and on the floor. Still checking major components but can already see that I will be needing a few small parts like oil cups, screws, etc. Did you find any one source for most parts? So far, my major components appear to be useable. Thanks for any direction in sourcing such items. Butch

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  3 роки тому

      Thank you! For New Old Stock items, I was able to get some from a man named Ted Pflugner. Ted used to work for South Bend before they were sold to Grizzly and has quite the inventory. You can find him on the SBL facebook group, Practical Machinist and by email (latheman2@aol.com). If Ted doesn't have it, eBay has been a good source, as well as the aforementioned groups/forums.

  • @standonald5145
    @standonald5145 2 роки тому

    Hi there, iv just watched you dissasemble, and rebuild your South Bend Lathe after what must have been many hrs of painstaking work, very labour intensive but a very rewarding result. You have reserected basically what was an old neglected, to a fully rebuilt lathe. I hope you get many years of pleasure using it, Stan in Scotland

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  2 роки тому

      Thanks you for watching! I would like to grind the bed ways some day. I've grown fond of the lathe, and although I won't say I would never sell it, it is increasingly unlikely.

  • @WrestlingUntamed
    @WrestlingUntamed 2 роки тому

    Where did you buy/find those South Bend copper/brass name plates/decals?

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  2 роки тому

      I bought the threading chart from someone that used to work for SBL. The others were on the lathe. I cleaned and painted a couple of them, but the others I just cleaned off the paint that was painted over them and left them brass. It would have been too much work to repaint them.

  • @Pistolero-
    @Pistolero- Рік тому +1

    Working on my little 9” . It was in a garage that was dilapidated and so there is a lot of rust. All but two of the tail stock MT’s are so pitted that they are just gonna go to steel heaven.
    I have been glued to this video and will be watching it over and over again.

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  Рік тому

      Glad you find it useful. All of this is taken from individual videos I did of each of the components, so there is more detail in them if you need it. Thanks for watching!

  • @jdmccorful
    @jdmccorful 3 роки тому +2

    Absolutely entertaining, relaxxxxxxing, and informative! Enjoyed watching! Thanks!

  • @josianogodoi4715
    @josianogodoi4715 2 роки тому

    Congratulations.

  • @robfrancis8830
    @robfrancis8830 3 роки тому

    Great transformation. 👍

  • @MsBrommel
    @MsBrommel 2 роки тому

    Top work,nice maschine

  • @Dutchie74flh
    @Dutchie74flh 2 роки тому

    Great job man. Your lathe looks like a new machine. I hope that it gives you loads of enjoyment.

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  2 роки тому +1

      It is! At least until the next one comes along. I doubt seriously this will be my only or last lathe.

    • @legallyfree2955
      @legallyfree2955 Рік тому

      @@MyLilMule Well you couldn't possibly only have one lathe, surely you need a metric and an imperial one? Plus a third one in bits you plan to convert to CNC eventually when you get around it.

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  Рік тому +1

      @@legallyfree2955 The possibilities are endless.

  • @CSWoodworks
    @CSWoodworks 2 роки тому

    That’s a ton of work. Looks great

    • @MyLilMule
      @MyLilMule  2 роки тому

      It was, but it was fun. I didn't mind doing it.

  • @alekos437
    @alekos437 2 роки тому

    beautifull

  • @madeddiesman-stylemonsterm6662
    @madeddiesman-stylemonsterm6662 2 роки тому

    Excellent work on this! That is a beauty. Thanks for sharing this.