Interesting list for sure. Love to see new takes on decks emerge, just sucks that I’m missing a lot of the newer cards to make them work. Feels like no card is skippable anymore as players find a use the following week if anything.
The reason why there are not a lot of players playing Namora is merely because there are no people who own Jeff, Nocturne, Ironlad, and Namora simultaneously. The only people who own these cards are either very top-ranked or streamers, or they just got darn lucky. But for most players, they don't.
I think you might be forgetting another demographic, people who have been playing for a while. Both Ironlad and Jeff came out over a year ago. Namora and Nocturne are recent, sure, but its not like Nocturne wasn't highly sought after. She is still like 15% of the meta. I think its safe to say people just either underestimated Namora, or it didn't fit their playstyle. The cards will come, just keep playing. It stacks up pretty fast.
Yeah, I've been playing Namora, and it's been pretty strong. I haven't run Nocturne though, you could even use Scarlet Witch. Almost everyone has Jeff (25ish% of the meta) and Ironlad (from Discard and Tribunal's days)
This is true but it's not even about luck. It's just that normal people don't have as many keys and value them way more than these whales or maxed out players. Nocturne and Namora were a spotlight away from each other with the one in between having an Archetype defining card in Tribunal who would be a must get if you don't have him and after Namora was Sasquatch who everyone was saving for as he looked crazy
While I love your videos, seeing this list always makes me hate the spotlight system even more. So many cards I missed or had to skip for something else that are now in top decks like Namora and there is no way I can get them without waiting an eternity or spending insane amounts of money
Arishem enjoyer here. Played an Arishem deck against the likes of Safety Blade and KM best, and ruthless Darkhawk counter decks to earn my first ever infinite border on the Arishem spotlight variant avatar. I absolutely LOVE the first deck you featured on my preliminary test of it. Mbaku and uata are no joke great. I had multiple games where I had +1 energy or multiple cards gaining 1+ power right from the jump. Mbaku jumped out with 4 power from Phastos to secure me a lane. Also love seeing someone Loki me and then play a Mbaku and Uatu. The weakness with Arishem seems to be having snappable win conditions so I made a small substitution: Red Hulk for Legion. He is printing me cubes. Love making ongoing disabled everywhere XD and not running the darkhawk/rogue/shang chi meta thing rn. The real 5 head play with this deck is your opponent can’t Loki into your own counters.
Whatever deck I switched to I start playing against decks that have the exact counter cards needed. It’s not a coincidence at this point. This game is ridiculous
Yeah I'm convinced they have something coded to check for key cards and then go off there. It's to keep you playing as many people when frustrated DONT stop playing
Classic Alex saying a card is bad and then being in the top 1 deck, say sorry to Phastos xd While Arishem doesn't seem op in ladder it defenetly makes the rest of decks play around him, interesting for sure
Why is hob goblin in that mbaku watcher deck phastos can make him worse and he’s worse for blob? Seems like he shouldn’t be there? Maybe swap for legion or another 5? And maybe like echo for a small tech counter instead of the watcher lol. Mbaku stays tho
Well well well, Phastos in the number 1 deck. Also glad to see Arishem isn't dominating the way some people seemed to make it appear. He's too fun, I'd hate to see him nerfed. Hopefully the novelty wears off and his play rate drops a bit.
lol the top deck this week featuring two cards that people were giving low star ratings to. I wonder if this just due to the meta or if Phastos and Makari truly have staying power. I know Phastos isn’t as low as Cozy gave it but I guess we’ll see in the following weeks if it’s as bad as people say or if it’ll be yet another card that people are talking about missing because they skipped it.
My Arishem deck have Uatu, Mbaku, Darkhawk, Loki, Shang... is really an outlier, never seen in streaming yet, I've brewed and played it only since day 1. Tools for every counter lol I'm thinking only in changing Phastos (real savior in many games) for Patriot, because I've no answer for Debrii
Your description says that you use multiple sources and data points, but it feels like you exclusively reference untapped. What are your other sources/data points?
I'd recommend sage. Cannonball doesn't see much play after the nerf and red guardian is good to have but very replaceable. Sage is flexible and scales up big on a single turn so she can easily surprise your opponent turn 6.
I don't understand how Surfer can be the best deck statistically since tech cards like Rogue and Shang are actually more important now than Killmonger and Mobius
You could try Iron Lad if you want a Jubilee-almost with less board space usage and 7 power instead. Otherwise, Jubilee is probably your next best thing.
Man Arishem is a menace. I'm not sure how yall don't see that (probably winning so much) this whole GAME shifted that's insane. 72% and a bunch of infinity conquest wins is insane. The flexibility too much! "Oooo but the randomness" oh shush. Yall have fury, coulson, Valentina, loki to mitigate that Played a dude who dropped storm on turn 2! Then a HE cyclops which is wild. Then had a readily copy of shang chi from coulson to hit my DH One of many examples but the randomness is not a weakness it's a huge advantage especially in conquest. The "dead cards" can be used in locations that favor them. The energy has to be modified to kick in turn 3 or show some cards being shuffled in
I have 6000 tokens but cant decide who to buy. Options are Elsa , White Widow and Red guardian. Who do you guys think worth the tokens? I also dont have Namora
I think white widow is better than red guardian. She is a 2 drop that's an instant win with many locations. White widow goes in pretty much any deck and I find myself cutting red guardian a lot. But white widow is due for a nerf so keep that in mind.
Depends on what you already have in your collection and if you buy a card can you fit that card straight into a deck or archetype ? I would personally get sage or mockingbird as they're in nearly every top deck every week. I finally got sage a few days ago after waiting so long for her to rotate into my shop since missing her in the spotlight, she's a must have imo
As a Surfer Player its disappointing to see Makkari and Phastos in the best version of the list. I desperately needed to save some keys so I skipped them, and I'm already trying to save tokens for Sage who I missed. Seems like its impossible for even dedicated players to access cards they skip which makes me feel like i need to get every card which is equally impossible
dont fall for the FOMO. play and get the cards you can, work with what is available and take the loss as nothing. They literally have stated time and time again they don't want players collection complete. I also chased the dragon for a very long time, and now with some cards missing I still manage to play and have fun.
Others have already said this, but as someone who's been playing for a year and a half, over 10k CL, and with I think 2 spotlight keys right now, the one and only deck on this list I have 100% of the cards for is #7. I try to plan ahead with keys, but tokens come in so almighty slowly. Every week I feel like I have a new card to regret skipping. No Blob, no Nocturne, no Mockingbird, No Cannonball, No Namora, No Sasquatch, No Zemo, No Phastos, no Blink, no Gilgamesh (I've bought a few passes but not everyone's made of money). One week it's mid and skippable, and a month later it's in half of the top decks. I'm looking at you, the Red Guardian I don't own. Acquisition is becoming prohibitive to competition.
It’s unfortunate. Second Dinner’s current strategy has far too many new cards at Series 5, and aren’t dropping things to 4 (or even 3) nearly fast enough.
For about 50 bucks per months you can get most cards. Obviously the less you spend the less cards you'll get. Same as in any other collectible card game.
@@silvsilvsilv Saying "Spend $50 every month on a video game in order to not fall behind in semi-casual competition" is a ridiculous position. Literally "pay to win?" Todays trash skip is tomorrow's hot card. Those who buy the season pass and do dailies (a completely reasonable ask for investment, not $50/mo) use their best judgement and still are at the whims of meta and balance changes. If every new card weren't Series 5, and if we could expect series drops of "all cards" on a non-laughable basis, the current system would be a lot less punishing.
@@bllOveron why is that a ridiculous position? You can be competitive as a free to play player, but if you want to get most cards the week they release you gotta spend money. It's the same in pretty much every other game of this type. And that's not even factoring in the fact that most cards are easily replaceable (except the ones that define the deck they're in). Don't have Sage? Just run Wolfsbane. Don't have Jeff? Run Nightcrawler. Don't have Phastos and Makkari? Just run literally any other decent 3-drops. Yeah, your deck will be slightly worse, but still very playable. Just be honest and say you want to get more/most cards for free.
Hot take, I’m tired of all the Arishem, I think he’s one of the most overrated cards we’ve ever seen, I really don’t think he’s that good, and I find it more fun putting together my own combos than praying for good rng
unfortunately not a hot take since every season we get at least one card burnout that kills the desire to play matches. Arishem, Baron, Blob, Alioth, every season always the same.
@@cryptobreko5539 lol. I've never had a twitter, but it's not surprising that people are calling for a nerf. It seems like a certain portion of the player base want every card nerfed. 😆
@@batmanwins5701 yeah, it's probably people that didn't get him tbf. I skipped him but don't think he needs a nerf, people will forget about him next week.
This kind of videos are becoming more and more useless not because Alex does not deliver good videos but because the meta is just too expensive. It’s impossible to even make one of the top 10 decks without spending money….every deck has like 8 series 5 cards or so
So after being told repeatedly by you and Cozy not to waste my time on Phastos and Makkari, in fact, seeing you ridicule them I didn't get them... Now you're telling me they're both in the highest win rate deck??? I can't help but feel like I've been robbed of an opportunity to do well in the game. Thanks for nothing.
Which is why the single most important decision is made by you and your desire. They merely suggest and for the most part play the card the same day we all get to play it. Honestly Phanos is still mid at best, I see him somewhat regularly and rarely do I get beat out due to his effect. You can literally get the same effect with other cards like nakia, okoye, forge, etc. you might have to work some deck magic in some matches, but he's easily flexed out. Cards don't rob or give you advantages in game. Simply having Arishem in your deck allows the possibility of having Phastos. Plus, he's sitting in the token shop right now (for me) so no card is 'unobtainable' and we all know the meta will change again literally within the next change of seasons.
Oh my god, that first janky deck is mine ❤❤❤❤
My deck made it in a Coccia video. Life goal achieved right there.
Yo congrats mate 🫡
Interesting list for sure. Love to see new takes on decks emerge, just sucks that I’m missing a lot of the newer cards to make them work. Feels like no card is skippable anymore as players find a use the following week if anything.
The reason why there are not a lot of players playing Namora is merely because there are no people who own Jeff, Nocturne, Ironlad, and Namora simultaneously. The only people who own these cards are either very top-ranked or streamers, or they just got darn lucky. But for most players, they don't.
I think you might be forgetting another demographic, people who have been playing for a while. Both Ironlad and Jeff came out over a year ago. Namora and Nocturne are recent, sure, but its not like Nocturne wasn't highly sought after. She is still like 15% of the meta. I think its safe to say people just either underestimated Namora, or it didn't fit their playstyle.
The cards will come, just keep playing. It stacks up pretty fast.
Yeah, I've been playing Namora, and it's been pretty strong. I haven't run Nocturne though, you could even use Scarlet Witch. Almost everyone has Jeff (25ish% of the meta) and Ironlad (from Discard and Tribunal's days)
I’ve been playing for almost a year, my collection level is over 6000, and I only have lad lol
I've been using Doom as a sub for Nocture and it's really strong
This is true but it's not even about luck. It's just that normal people don't have as many keys and value them way more than these whales or maxed out players. Nocturne and Namora were a spotlight away from each other with the one in between having an Archetype defining card in Tribunal who would be a must get if you don't have him and after Namora was Sasquatch who everyone was saving for as he looked crazy
Thanks as always for the info Alex! For the first time in a while I can’t put the game down thanks to Arishem. What a blast to play.
While I love your videos, seeing this list always makes me hate the spotlight system even more. So many cards I missed or had to skip for something else that are now in top decks like Namora and there is no way I can get them without waiting an eternity or spending insane amounts of money
yeah it's rough
I have the real life chance to wake my gf up at 1am when she has to be up at 5 to say “honey wake up, there’s a new Alex Coccia top decks vid”
Eh, just let her sleep. The video and meta won't change, and she can watch it while eating breakfast.
My girl would’ve killed me if I did this 😂
Arishem enjoyer here. Played an Arishem deck against the likes of Safety Blade and KM best, and ruthless Darkhawk counter decks to earn my first ever infinite border on the Arishem spotlight variant avatar.
I absolutely LOVE the first deck you featured on my preliminary test of it.
Mbaku and uata are no joke great. I had multiple games where I had +1 energy or multiple cards gaining 1+ power right from the jump. Mbaku jumped out with 4 power from Phastos to secure me a lane. Also love seeing someone Loki me and then play a Mbaku and Uatu.
The weakness with Arishem seems to be having snappable win conditions so I made a small substitution: Red Hulk for Legion. He is printing me cubes. Love making ongoing disabled everywhere XD and not running the darkhawk/rogue/shang chi meta thing rn. The real 5 head play with this deck is your opponent can’t Loki into your own counters.
Whatever deck I switched to I start playing against decks that have the exact counter cards needed. It’s not a coincidence at this point. This game is ridiculous
Yeah I'm convinced they have something coded to check for key cards and then go off there. It's to keep you playing as many people when frustrated DONT stop playing
Skill issue
@@Facusblues indeed. In fact, I’m going to be a nerd and listen to the blues so I can feel sorry for myself.
@@carlhess5707 Nah, just get better at the game and you'll realize that these conspiracy theories don't make any sense.
@@Facusblues haha that’s impossible, I win 84% of the time. sorry I pointed out something obvious and it trigged you Fanboy.
Not having Nocturne has been annoying me the past few weeks since its like in almost every deck...
I've messed around with a Bloki list and it is powerfull! That garantied Loki from the Blink is awesome. Thanks again Mr Coccia!
As always, thank you for the video, the information, and the decks. Very helpful.
Arishem is the best thing to happen in Snap in months. Easily the most fun in a long time
Classic Alex saying a card is bad and then being in the top 1 deck, say sorry to Phastos xd
While Arishem doesn't seem op in ladder it defenetly makes the rest of decks play around him, interesting for sure
i slid from 96 to 86 this week once Arishem released and had a great time doing it
Lol, literally the same
3am is crazy dedication, love the vids man
You deserve my Like just for uploading at 3am EST 😅
I’m so done with the card acquisition system. I can’t play any of these decks cuz I don’t have Loki, sage, or nocturn. And they are all 6000
Why is hob goblin in that mbaku watcher deck phastos can make him worse and he’s worse for blob? Seems like he shouldn’t be there? Maybe swap for legion or another 5? And maybe like echo for a small tech counter instead of the watcher lol. Mbaku stays tho
I FINALLY hit Infinite!!! Arishem did it for me! That card is a lot of fun...
Congrats! I could sure use some help -- haven't been able to get past level 73 the past 2 seasons. :(
I'm really looking forward to the next snap chat Alex. It looks like it's going to be a big one.
Well well well, Phastos in the number 1 deck. Also glad to see Arishem isn't dominating the way some people seemed to make it appear. He's too fun, I'd hate to see him nerfed. Hopefully the novelty wears off and his play rate drops a bit.
What would anyone recommend playing instead of red guardian as I don’t have it, especially in the loki blink deck?
Hit infinite last week with a similar mill deck. Very strong
Does anyone have a more budget friendly sasquatch deck? I don't have Thena, Nocturne or Sage, what could I replace them with?
Which of these do you think would be best in conquest?
This is by far my most anticipated weekly video segment on UA-cam. Much love.
My high Evo does alright against Arishem,played against 5 decks and won 3
lol the top deck this week featuring two cards that people were giving low star ratings to. I wonder if this just due to the meta or if Phastos and Makari truly have staying power. I know Phastos isn’t as low as Cozy gave it but I guess we’ll see in the following weeks if it’s as bad as people say or if it’ll be yet another card that people are talking about missing because they skipped it.
My Arishem deck have Uatu, Mbaku, Darkhawk, Loki, Shang... is really an outlier, never seen in streaming yet, I've brewed and played it only since day 1. Tools for every counter lol
I'm thinking only in changing Phastos (real savior in many games) for Patriot, because I've no answer for Debrii
Morph counts towards Mockingbird?
i wish i got nocturne when i had the chance 😅
Feel the same about Mockingbird
Why didn't you
I feel the same about white widow.
Brotha I love you glasses what brand are they
Swear my high evo deck is winning like crazy I love it
Your description says that you use multiple sources and data points, but it feels like you exclusively reference untapped.
What are your other sources/data points?
Can someone make an arishem deck without mockingbird,blob and Loki?
Enjoy your vacation Alex, youve earned it!!
How can you have a Mill & Disrupt deck without Magneto??
This guy never misses
Why do you always say that? You know it's not true.
Cant play a single deck even though I am playing since the start. So much fun...😅
Ok, I'm at 6k collector tokens (finally). Sage, Red Guardian, or Cannonball? They all get played now, so I'm torn.
I'd recommend sage. Cannonball doesn't see much play after the nerf and red guardian is good to have but very replaceable. Sage is flexible and scales up big on a single turn so she can easily surprise your opponent turn 6.
It’s crazy and feels so wrong to see all these surfer decks performing so well without Wong somehow
Your chapters are named incorrectly in the video
🔥
I don't understand how Surfer can be the best deck statistically since tech cards like Rogue and Shang are actually more important now than Killmonger and Mobius
What are these timestamps?
Replacement for Makkari in the Surfer deck?
Literally any good 3-cost card....
Hi Alex. Regarding your loki blink deck i need your advice. I haven't blink. Can be professor x a good replacement?
blink is just a spicy choice imo probably just another loki card. maybe elsa or mockingbird.
If you're in a pinch you can try Jubilee instead
@@APSx_ thanks. I have mokingbird
@@njblegopersonal2668 why not pof x? Nocturne or jeff can move there
You could try Iron Lad if you want a Jubilee-almost with less board space usage and 7 power instead. Otherwise, Jubilee is probably your next best thing.
Man Arishem is a menace. I'm not sure how yall don't see that (probably winning so much) this whole GAME shifted that's insane. 72% and a bunch of infinity conquest wins is insane.
The flexibility too much!
"Oooo but the randomness" oh shush. Yall have fury, coulson, Valentina, loki to mitigate that
Played a dude who dropped storm on turn 2! Then a HE cyclops which is wild. Then had a readily copy of shang chi from coulson to hit my DH
One of many examples but the randomness is not a weakness it's a huge advantage especially in conquest. The "dead cards" can be used in locations that favor them.
The energy has to be modified to kick in turn 3 or show some cards being shuffled in
I just can’t pull off the Namora deck … it never works for me 😢
Don't forget, Rogue can copy their blob as well
I have 6000 tokens but cant decide who to buy. Options are Elsa , White Widow and Red guardian. Who do you guys think worth the tokens? I also dont have Namora
Mockingbird is incredibly strong in many deck
Mockingbird is incredibly strong in many deck
White Widow or Red Guardian over Elsa for sure. Between WW and RG it's a coin flip in my opinion
I think white widow is better than red guardian. She is a 2 drop that's an instant win with many locations. White widow goes in pretty much any deck and I find myself cutting red guardian a lot. But white widow is due for a nerf so keep that in mind.
Depends on what you already have in your collection and if you buy a card can you fit that card straight into a deck or archetype ? I would personally get sage or mockingbird as they're in nearly every top deck every week.
I finally got sage a few days ago after waiting so long for her to rotate into my shop since missing her in the spotlight, she's a must have imo
I'm so sick of Nocturne being one of the cards I don't have, yet it's in every damn deck...
That surfer deck is a problem for sure
Another week of "I can't make a single deck from this list"
Didn't buy Namora? Oh I did. What I didn't buy was Sage. Guess which one I regret more? lol :)
As a Surfer Player its disappointing to see Makkari and Phastos in the best version of the list. I desperately needed to save some keys so I skipped them, and I'm already trying to save tokens for Sage who I missed. Seems like its impossible for even dedicated players to access cards they skip which makes me feel like i need to get every card which is equally impossible
dont fall for the FOMO. play and get the cards you can, work with what is available and take the loss as nothing. They literally have stated time and time again they don't want players collection complete. I also chased the dragon for a very long time, and now with some cards missing I still manage to play and have fun.
Hey I know these questions get annoying but is there any replacements for red guardian?
Yeahhhhh
Skipped the nocturne weak and she’s litterally every deck lol
Others have already said this, but as someone who's been playing for a year and a half, over 10k CL, and with I think 2 spotlight keys right now, the one and only deck on this list I have 100% of the cards for is #7. I try to plan ahead with keys, but tokens come in so almighty slowly. Every week I feel like I have a new card to regret skipping. No Blob, no Nocturne, no Mockingbird, No Cannonball, No Namora, No Sasquatch, No Zemo, No Phastos, no Blink, no Gilgamesh (I've bought a few passes but not everyone's made of money). One week it's mid and skippable, and a month later it's in half of the top decks. I'm looking at you, the Red Guardian I don't own. Acquisition is becoming prohibitive to competition.
It’s unfortunate. Second Dinner’s current strategy has far too many new cards at Series 5, and aren’t dropping things to 4 (or even 3) nearly fast enough.
Start targeting certain collections that give tokens and keys
For about 50 bucks per months you can get most cards. Obviously the less you spend the less cards you'll get. Same as in any other collectible card game.
@@silvsilvsilv Saying "Spend $50 every month on a video game in order to not fall behind in semi-casual competition" is a ridiculous position. Literally "pay to win?" Todays trash skip is tomorrow's hot card. Those who buy the season pass and do dailies (a completely reasonable ask for investment, not $50/mo) use their best judgement and still are at the whims of meta and balance changes. If every new card weren't Series 5, and if we could expect series drops of "all cards" on a non-laughable basis, the current system would be a lot less punishing.
@@bllOveron why is that a ridiculous position? You can be competitive as a free to play player, but if you want to get most cards the week they release you gotta spend money. It's the same in pretty much every other game of this type.
And that's not even factoring in the fact that most cards are easily replaceable (except the ones that define the deck they're in). Don't have Sage? Just run Wolfsbane. Don't have Jeff? Run Nightcrawler. Don't have Phastos and Makkari? Just run literally any other decent 3-drops. Yeah, your deck will be slightly worse, but still very playable. Just be honest and say you want to get more/most cards for free.
HELA is dead lmao!
Almost all decks with nocturne 😢
... Where's the slide, Alex?
Negative Surfer is by far the most consistent advanced deck in the game
My sandman says hello
I definitely didn't grab Namora or Nocturne when they dropped and I regret it every week.
first :) thanks for the video alex! finally more than 1 deck that i have the cards for 😅
Yea don't have most of these cards. I'll stick with my minus deck. Pisses some players off
So Makkari > Arishem
In multiple decks of the top 10 decks, including the number 1, confirmed Makkari is the best card of the season
So tired of not having cards for every single deck.
Snap has been absolutely annoying and frustrating in the state it’s in … in my opinion ..
Any of these channels that don’t offer some sort of alternatives for cards are a waste of time.
This game gets less fun for me by the week.
Hot take, I’m tired of all the Arishem, I think he’s one of the most overrated cards we’ve ever seen, I really don’t think he’s that good, and I find it more fun putting together my own combos than praying for good rng
unfortunately not a hot take since every season we get at least one card burnout that kills the desire to play matches.
Arishem, Baron, Blob, Alioth, every season always the same.
dude this is just sad... not having mocking bird makes me not wanna play the game atm... it's literally in every deck
I'm like 90% sure Alex made a mistake and the rates for that Mill Deck should be like 49% winrate and -0.34 cubes :D
game of "waste time" for sure 😂
Arishem is mid
Yeah I don't think anyone expected him to be a competitive card. He is just fun to play.
Conquest king
@@batmanwins5701 you'd be surprised. People on twitter calling for a nerf
@@cryptobreko5539 lol. I've never had a twitter, but it's not surprising that people are calling for a nerf. It seems like a certain portion of the player base want every card nerfed. 😆
@@batmanwins5701 yeah, it's probably people that didn't get him tbf. I skipped him but don't think he needs a nerf, people will forget about him next week.
lol two “trash “ unplayable cards in the top deck…the community was duped again
Chang chi = noob
No but getting hit by him is the definition of noob 😂
@@justinwaller9665 🐼
This kind of videos are becoming more and more useless not because Alex does not deliver good videos but because the meta is just too expensive. It’s impossible to even make one of the top 10 decks without spending money….every deck has like 8 series 5 cards or so
So after being told repeatedly by you and Cozy not to waste my time on Phastos and Makkari, in fact, seeing you ridicule them I didn't get them... Now you're telling me they're both in the highest win rate deck??? I can't help but feel like I've been robbed of an opportunity to do well in the game. Thanks for nothing.
Which is why the single most important decision is made by you and your desire. They merely suggest and for the most part play the card the same day we all get to play it. Honestly Phanos is still mid at best, I see him somewhat regularly and rarely do I get beat out due to his effect.
You can literally get the same effect with other cards like nakia, okoye, forge, etc. you might have to work some deck magic in some matches, but he's easily flexed out.
Cards don't rob or give you advantages in game. Simply having Arishem in your deck allows the possibility of having Phastos. Plus, he's sitting in the token shop right now (for me) so no card is 'unobtainable' and we all know the meta will change again literally within the next change of seasons.