I agree, but on SoundCloud, when you skip between tracks, louder ones often sound better. On Spotify, I feel that there's still a difference between louder tracks, even though Spotify levels them down. In the end, everyone has to decide for themselves, but the pros I listen to usually aim for loudness, even if their tracks are worse in a fair comparison with quieter ones.
I'm with Henry here, Louder is not better, especially on your Master. I go -1dBFS at -10 LUFS for my Masters and when uploading, the Algorythm of the streamingservice changes it anyway and always different, so it has to sound good on all systems.
@@malhar4298 What do you mean by "can't achieve the same result"? I can guarantee you that I know how to master loud, but it just doesn't punch in comparison to a dynamic master. It's simply not the same kind of fun on a bigger sound system.
The louder the volume, the less dynamic the sound can be, sometimes the transients suffer, I like to keep it healthy around -16dBFS with the peaks at around -8dBFS, because a digital system has a theoretical limit and signal to noise ratio, depending on the sampling rate you choose to work with, so pro-loudness, I used to be one of them, but now, I favor quality and control full time
I use StandardCLIP because of its graphical representation (also used by Pegboard Nerds). I haven't tried other clippers, but I recommend choosing one with a graphical interface so you can visually monitor the peaks. If you want to minimize coloration or saturation, you should use hard clip mode, but clippers always add color to the sound. For peak handling without adding coloration, I'd recommend using a limiter like Invisible Limiter or FabFilter.
Some of the best EDM artists with the best mixes often come from a metal background (like Zomboy, and I think Zedd started with rock as well). Good luck, haha!
Loudness on digital streaming era is a mistake. Just add a true peak limiter and run your music around - 16lufs. More than this and streaming media will push everything down
Hey, thanks for the input. This is what I did in the past, and then I compared my loudness to Madeon's tracks on Spotify, and they were much louder. That's why I don't trust Spotify's equal loudness algorithm anymore. 😂
so glad more people are talking about this, the master doesn't control everything...
Don’t clip pads or long sustained notes (distortion will be ultra fucked). Compress or limit instead. Nice vid brah
Aye. For some genres of modern music sure. -4. OK go for it. But we really need to bring dynamics back to music.
Clear and concise video... Thanks for keeping it short (my ADHD attentionspan loves you!)
I personally love big dynamics but for dance music and club music creating a compact waveform is necessary to keep that crowd alive. IMO.
Thanks for making this
The louder you turn it up, the less dynamic the signal becomes and the transients end up suffering. I boycott the "pro-loudness" narrative.
I agree, but on SoundCloud, when you skip between tracks, louder ones often sound better. On Spotify, I feel that there's still a difference between louder tracks, even though Spotify levels them down. In the end, everyone has to decide for themselves, but the pros I listen to usually aim for loudness, even if their tracks are worse in a fair comparison with quieter ones.
I'm with Henry here, Louder is not better, especially on your Master. I go -1dBFS at -10 LUFS for my Masters and when uploading, the Algorythm of the streamingservice changes it anyway and always different, so it has to sound good on all systems.
The people who boycott pro loudness are ones who cant achieve the same result...2012 tracks still sound same in loudness
@@malhar4298 .. well, I do not boycott it, you do you .. for me, I am one of the weird guys that likes dynamics in his masters 😉
@@malhar4298 What do you mean by "can't achieve the same result"? I can guarantee you that I know how to master loud, but it just doesn't punch in comparison to a dynamic master. It's simply not the same kind of fun on a bigger sound system.
Bro this song goes hard af
Good idea. Thanks!
The louder the volume, the less dynamic the sound can be, sometimes the transients suffer, I like to keep it healthy around -16dBFS with the peaks at around -8dBFS, because a digital system has a theoretical limit and signal to noise ratio, depending on the sampling rate you choose to work with, so pro-loudness, I used to be one of them, but now, I favor quality and control full time
what is the best clipper for dynamics, not color?
I use StandardCLIP because of its graphical representation (also used by Pegboard Nerds).
I haven't tried other clippers, but I recommend choosing one with a graphical interface so you can visually monitor the peaks.
If you want to minimize coloration or saturation, you should use hard clip mode, but clippers always add color to the sound.
For peak handling without adding coloration, I'd recommend using a limiter like Invisible Limiter or FabFilter.
@ thanks
Just my opinion, if clipped lightly, Schwabe Gold Clip can be clean. Conversely push it harder and it'll add some grit.
Clipper and Dynamics basically the oposit - the more you clip, the less dynamics you have - use clipper? Yes, but with caution
Best clipper for dynamics is no clipper, obv.
Thx
I will try this but im doing metal most and snares these days pop out like 6 dbs or so. lets see xD
Some of the best EDM artists with the best mixes often come from a metal background (like Zomboy, and I think Zedd started with rock as well). Good luck, haha!
Clipper sounds good on the snare
“Struggling to achieve loudness in your masters?” Find a real job
Loudness on digital streaming era is a mistake. Just add a true peak limiter and run your music around - 16lufs. More than this and streaming media will push everything down
Hey, thanks for the input. This is what I did in the past, and then I compared my loudness to Madeon's tracks on Spotify, and they were much louder. That's why I don't trust Spotify's equal loudness algorithm anymore. 😂
@AYJINPLATES trust me. It's working. Madeon is louder because he doesn't push everything loud.
I'd say 14 LUFS but yeah certainly not 4.4...
@@juniorsilvabroadcastlol no