Village Called Arthur
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- Опубліковано 3 лют 2024
- Most people associate King Arthur with Wales and the south west, but up in the north western reaches of England, he enjoys a strong association. The legend of King Arthur and his knights of the round table is strong here!
Here we're looking at a village - or perhaps more accurately a civil parish - that is named after him. Just a couple of miles from the border with Scotland, this is purported to be in his final resting place. Yet another one!
We look at the complicated history of the Battle of Arfderydd, or Arderydd - a very probably genuine battle in the Dark Ages, dated to 573 AD. And then how that has morphed into one of the many and varied tales of King Arthur of the Britons. Ultimately culminating in a village called Arthur.
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Fascinating!
If you Google "The Name and Battle of Arfderydd, near Carlisle" there's an article by Andrew Breeze wherein he writes that it's a hydronym (I am happy to admit that's a new word I learned today!) and originally means "burning weapon", an old name for Carwinley Burn.
Ah! I did read that article and completely overlooked that!
Check out Wikipedia for the normal invented nonsense. On there you get a wholly invented version of the name, which is then fancifully translated to fit the story:
"arm-, perhaps meaning "arms, weapon" (arf in Modern Welsh, borrowed ultimately from Latin arma, "arms, armour") - or perhaps an Old Welsh cognate of Old Irish airm meaning 'place' - and a second element terid "ardent, fierce; flaming, blazing; fast, nimble, swift" (terydd in Modern Welsh, a loan from Latin torridus, "scorched, parched, burned"). However, "...it seems safer to leave the interpretation of ' Armterid' an open question."
I always check out what Wikipedia says on place names, for a bit of a laugh. There's a real tendency there to add "drama". I was talking to @allotmentfox recently where he translated "Ewelme" to river source. I checked on Wikipedia and they opted for "waters whelming". Much more poetic and dramatic. But wrong!
The legend that was Arthur Askey lives on.
Now that’s an Arthur I can believe in!
No Arthur, no Merlin, next you will be telling us there is no Santa 😮😢. Another great video. Thanks for sharing.
That’s next week’s video! And then we move onto the tooth fairy! Thanks for watching.
Never seen so many beautiful headstones...
Yes they are amazing! Thanks for watching.
Another great location. We have some beautiful hidden gems up north. There must have been a few Romano British chieftains knocking about after the Romans left.
Thank you and yes we do. My UA-cam feed is full of Wessex-based antiquities - and I do understand why - but I think we have so much more in northern England and yet, it attracts so little attention. Hopefully this channel addresses the imbalance somewhat. Thanks for watching!
Mornin' Darren, A place of legends!! A very atmospheric place to visit.
The church looked quite weather beaten or maybe it's just the composition of the stone they used and thanks for pointing out the masons marks, always interesting to see.
efallai ei fod yn ogystal yr onglau a sacsinau ennill ...... No, don't worry it's not McBlane .... it's just me (and Google translate) posing the question that maybe it's better the angles and Saxons won out in the end, would the world be using what is now Welsh to communicate today? I do hope Arthur gave them a bloody nose though and maybe more than 'tis but a scratch!!
I've been wandering through the gold mine again this week, much closer to the quarry face. Here I believe you can see the original Roman galleries cut through the rock, well it's not consolidated rock it's an aggregate of river stones, sand and mud. No sign of the yellow stuff unfortunately!!
Have a great week!!
Thanks David! I actually have a Roman quarry on my radar right now!
It’s difficult to imagine old Welsh catching on in quite the same way. I elected to use captions, rather than trying to pronounce those names!
Thank you, another interesting video. I am afraid I was distracted by the graveyard with its numerous regimented grave markers and wondered why there were so many. Apparently one reason for the restoration of the church in 1609 was that Archie Armstrong, who was jester to James VI, came from the area and is buried in the churchyard. And I enjoyed the additional shots, it was like having a bonus video.
Thank you and I’d forgotten the connection with the King’s jester! What a great country we live in, where these out of the way places are so steeped in history.
Considering the high ground over the flats, the following rings true:
The etymology of "arfderydd" is rooted in Old Welsh, and it's believed to be composed of two elements: "ard" meaning 'height' or 'high place', and "derydd" which could be linked to "derw" meaning 'oak'. Combined, it likely referred to a 'high place of oaks' or 'oak-covered height'.
In Welsh history and legend, "Arfderydd" is famously associated with the Battle of Arfderydd, which occurred in the early 6th century. This battle is significant in Welsh folklore and early Welsh literature, particularly in the context of the deeds of the legendary figure Myrddin Wyllt (Merlin), who is said to have gone mad after the battle.
The significance of Merlin is that the word druid derives from 'oak knower'.
Thanks Anthony. Very interesting on the etymology there. It fascinates me how the name has morphed into “Arthuret”.
hi again Darren, yet another very interesting video , really well done and thank you 😊
Thanks Davie - glad you enjoyed it. An interesting story with some Arthurian mumbo for good measure!
Informative and straight to the point video. Lovely.
Thank you Oscar - glad you liked it. When I first discovered there was a village named after King Arthur, I just had to check it out!
Great video as always totally enjoyed your unique style and presentation -Thank you Darren
Thank you James very much appreciated. Interesting place this - probably the location of a significant battle in the Dark Ages, situated for centuries in the Debatable Land, but hijacked by Arthurian legend!
Loved the way you tell history ..I'm a history nut . Thankyou xxxxx ❤️❤️❤️😍😍
Cheers! We are too - glad you're enjoying the content and thank you for watching!
never knew King Arthur went up north thought he was in Cornwall. Did not know there was a village named after him everydays a school day.
Well we try. Don't forget, King Arthur is a myth, he never existed. Thanks for watching.
I, for one, think all the shots were needed😂. Very well done!
Thank you and sorry about the weather on this one!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd 😂I live in San Diego, California and we are currently preparing for up to 4 inches of rain over 48 hours. You would think it the end of the world, eg sand bags, evacuations, but would be a normal winter day in UK😂
@@liberty_and_justice67 sounds like everyday of the winter here, thus far!
Just a couple of miles up the road from me at Etterby. There's a Famous Reivers grave in the churchyard there in the shape of a Maltese Cross if you noticed it? The mound over the road is said to be haunted by Arthur and his knights.
Another great video from my part of the world. Keep them coming.
Thank you and it really was my pleasure to film there - a much under appreciated part of the country, steeped in fascinating history.
Thanks for the tip about the Reivers grave - I didn't know about that. Somewhere down the line I want to make a multi-part video about the Debatable Land, so that will come in handy.
I come from an old Reiver family happy to help should you need it.
@@robertcroser7446 that's great - thank you. Were any of your family forcibly moved out of the area? I find that part of the story really interesting.
No not at all they've been around here for hundreds of years although l believe there's a few who emigrated to Canada Australia and New Zealand not sure if it was lowland clearances though l don't think so
Apparently Neil Armstrong of moon landing fame was descended from a Reiver family - his ancestors were forcibly moved out, I believe.
I thought you were about to fall into St Michael's well for a brief moment. 🤣Another fascinating walk through history..with a bit of legend throw in for good measure. Thank you.
Thanks Phil! That slip was 100% for real!
I could tell by the worried look on your face it was genuine. If you'd fallen I think you're the type of chap that'd keep it in the footage as an example of 'The perils of being a historian'
Absolutely! I may end up dying on camera!
Well I certainly hope not. It'd be beautifully filmed I am sure 😂...But we'd all far prefer you stuck around for many more years to come.
Thank you. Hopefully I’ve got a couple more decades! I like to think of this as a legacy for future generations of my family!
So.... Cadbury Castle is NOT Camelot? 🙂 Good to know Michael's well.
No it’s not! Camelot is a holiday lodge park close to the Scottish border. Obviously!
It has only just occurred to me but is the title of this video in fact a subtle riff on "Town Called Malice"?
I think that may have been lurking in there somewhere! I’ve tried singing it to that tune, but it doesn’t work very well. Oh, and I can’t sing!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd Neither can I, it hasn't stopped me!
Right. I’ll give it a go! Maybe a short!
Haaaaaahahaha. Ooooh and almost a Doctor Who vibe to your dissing of the Legion of Delided Arthurians.
Doctor Who inspired content on my channel? Never!
Fake News! The Real Name of this village is Scrutinggalbay Clartyshores.
Rumbled! But it took 40 comments!