height presets would be a good way for EA to incorporate height differences in the future without having to fully redo the animations for every possible height. It seems like it would be easier to have variations of the same animation for a few different heights than trying to make the animation scale to any possible height in that way. Hoping for some good stuff in the future!
With the way tech has advanced i dont think they would have to make individual animations, just use a tracking system from the hands to object for example. Like paralives said they're doing
@@rowanart4810 That’s true, it probably wouldn’t be as hard to implement that into project rene since the technology is already so much more advanced than it was when the sims 4 originally came out. Fingers crossed!
Preach! I’ve been saying this for years. Honestly, the only animations that have issues due to height are the romantic ones. Most animations still look okay even with the height difference. So with presets it wouldn’t even be that many animations that need tweaking.
When rigging a character, you can define specific points where the characters will "glue" their hands to during certain animations. That's probably the reason why hugging and caressing their cheeks works well, because the shoulders and the cheeks are those defined points! :)
Yeah the only issue there is how it's handled. Since the game doesn't really know how to handle it, it just stretches out the arms or dislocates them. So the hands are no matter what going to be in the right spot but the arms will either suddenly grow or just not look attached. You notice it with the hugging and Bella's arms suddenly being longer.
With that in mind, it's probably to do with the body customizations that can already be done. Cheeks can be thinner or fuller, shoulders can be slimmer or broader, etc. Height is not the only factor that can make those animations look wrong.
@@lixiioreo i don’t like using mods bc i’m not all that tech savvy and i don’t want to mess something up - waiting for the base game to add height sliders
Honestly if they did do height sliders officially, it’d be so funny if sims could do height-specific interactions, because that would make some really funny and more realistic interactions. Edit: not mean interactions, that’s not okay
"Talk down to" for a sim talking to a shorter one. Depending on how big the height difference is, the shorter person could have a mad moodlet because the person isn't even that much taller.
Even the preteen mod they're still really tall for being like 12-14. Atleast with the height slider you can make the parents a tad taller and the preteen- teen a tad shorter. To give an illusion of a smaller preteen. I really want ea to just make a preteen stage
for anyone who wants pre-teens, the pre teen mod is AMAZING!! It makes preteens shorter and makes them go to middle school (: they also go through different puberty centered situations
I love tjat mod! I have them go to high school but I use the chose the high school mates and then only have other pree teens in their class. Super cool!
Too bad I can't download mods because I got 4 trojans once😢 (I still have the height slider mod and always testing,Always move objects on,and always full edit mode but thats pretty much it)
I love how in so many of the mod videos, Kayla already has the game open and needs to close it first. I know she's probably just trying to info you you need to close your game first, but I love the idea that she just literally never stops playing lol
There is an automatic shorter teens mod on mod the sims that makes the teens automatically shorter than YA and A sims. You can also choose between two heights so they can be a little shorter and even shorter. And animations are fine because all teens are the same height and there isn’t clipping with adult sims either.
I’d honestly prefer a teens refresh over the babies refresh. I (wrongly) theorized that because we had such a long gap of packs before High School Years that this must have meant they were doing a teen overhaul and they would finally look different, but unfortunately that wasn’t the case. I’m still optimistic though
I used to play w height sliders but it can make some interactions look awkward if the sims are too tall or too short :/ like when they kiss other sims or interact w certain objects it looks glitchy lol
That and the fact that some heights tend to make your Sims' feet disappear were the main reason I ultimately stopped using this mod. It's a shame. Because if it works, it adds so much to the game.
HIGHLY agree with your point about preteens. We really just need a teen overhaul tbh. In Sims 5 I'd really like to see something similar to gradual aging for teens? "Teen" kinda covers alot of ground, so maybe as you progress through the teen lifestage their height and interaction options could change? For the latter is imagine it'd be similar to how toddlers interactions change based on their skills.
Yes! They could actually go through 'puberty' and how far along they are in it will affect how they look, in addition to other puberty stuff like acne and body hair and menstrual cycles (I know that those stuff exists in modes and some of the packs, but I really want puberty to be a proper thing, like a random bar somewhere, or a teen-specific skill, or maybe something similar to the fury system in werewolf) having them grow in hight based on how close they are to YA is the most realistic
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I also found this mod recently and it's a must-have for me! Something about seeing sims at different heights adds more realism and personality for me 😋
this is something that i really wanted. like you said we arent all the same size. im 6'4 so naturally i am taller than "most" people so when i play games that allow me to create myself i want to make my character taller. it adds to the immersion.
@@KatelynxXxAngel 5'8 is definitely tall for a girl. that's like the perfect height though, my mother is 5'9. i had one ex that was 5'8 the rest have been like 5'5 max. lol my back already hurts, but when i got to lean over or bend down to talk/hear someone it sucks.
@@BigDaddyStev-O I'm 6"2 (when I stand up straight - i essentially gave myself Scoliosis as a kid/teen just trying to blend in). All my early BF were short, and the backache is real!
Nice thing with the height slider is that is don't just stretch or squash the Sim, it also have a proportional effect on their girth. Taller Sims are broader and smaller Sims are thinner. What would be GREAT would be for the Sims actually progressively grow up in the infant, toddler, kid and teen life stage.
I don't feel like using animations as an excuse for the sims team to not give us something we literally had in past games is valid. Don't want to sound like a Karen, but making animations is part of their job and what we pay for.
I actually want preteens for the whole middle school aspect. In previous sims games, we have never gotten the full picture of what life is like. It's nice now that we will have essentially, newborns, infants, toddlers, kids, teens, young adults, adults and elderly. We almost have all of the life stages we really go through. Adding preschoolers and preteens would kind of finalize the remaining gaps we have.
I've had this slider mod installed since I started playing and it's a game changer. if your really short sim has a child with another really short sim, their child has a chance of being short as well, same with really tall sims. it's honestly so much fun
I agree I think it sound better updating the kids and teens rather than adding pre teens. I relation to the height slider I'm still a bit concerned abuot the caress cheek-animation if it was the lower person caressing the taller person's cheek - it might be that the lower person would stick their hand into the taller persons chest or something 😅 but all in all like you I wouldn't mind some wierd looking animations, it's still a nice feature, that I might try out when I play some more 😊 Thanks for your rambling content, I love the autenticity, don't ever change ✨✨💛💛
@@LangkeeLongkee exactly! honestly the only way to make it not seem weird IS by adding pre teens (12-15 yrs old ish even tho 15 year olds are alr teens), and by changing the childs age from 12 ish to 6-9 ish
@LangkeeLongkee you don't stop growing until like 18-20, which is an adult. On top of that, maybe we'd rather younger teens, since you start being a teen at 13, not 16.
@jeriel preteen is 10-12, since theyre PRE teenage years. Teens start at 13, hense the teen suffix at the end of each number there. It doesn't make sense for preteens to include teen ages. Honestly, the kids are already like 12 yr old size, they just act like 6-8 yr olds. An update that makes both teens and kids a little younger looking would be the best option
@@theekatspajamas I only said 15 cuz u still look young for the most part at that age, they should just add younger teens around 14 ish or maybe 12 ish and then make kids younger
this is one of my absolute favorite mods, has been a must have for me for a while because it’s really fun to make them different heights as it gives them more personality
There was a height mod for Sims 2. I don’t mind as much that all the adults are the same size, but it really bothers me that there’s so little distinction between teens and adults in Sims 4.
I don’t really want preteens but if they implemented height presets, I’d love to see a random growth spurt feature where the kid gets taller but not quite teen height yet at the end of childhood to ease the transition into a teenager! I feel like going from 8 to like fifteen is pretty jarring lol
also i gotta say i love the fact that the sims has so many amazing creators that they end up working for the actual game , i dont know a lot of other video games that is that much accessible
A pre-teen life stage would be an amazing Idea. Specifically in relation to puberty. There could be like a first period achievement thing, and like moodlets for like growing hair and voice cracks. They could add like a first day of high school thing in there, and like mood swings. Maybe a first crush thing as well. They already have a first kiss thing in the sims , but they could change it slightly for the pre-teens. Of Couse they'd have to add middle school which would change basically nothing except saying the sims are going somewhere else, but still. And best of all, they could do more than the kids, but less than the teenagers, so that it seems like way less drastic of a switch between ages.
Honestly as someone who is five feet tall in a world made for people who are at least 5'5, the fact that short sims don't fit properly in the portrait thing and u can only see the top half of their head is realistic.
I haven't used mods or CC at all in the past- not for any major reason, I'm just lazy- but this mod might just be the one that makes me start using them because it really is a good change. And seeing the way the animations changed isn't much of a problem to me. I find things like the portraits and incorrect kissing animations to be funny, honestly.
I like that teens are the same size, ts4 teens are like 16/17 so them being the same height actually makes sense, if teens looked younger that would be fine or if we had preteens that would nice too because Sims currently go from like 8 to 16 and that makes no sense.
Preteen life stage could be so cool though. they could make the sims have more emotion bombs, different quirks as well as maybe having more hobbies they pick up and they can have them start going through puberty through that life stage!
I feel like instead of adding an entirely new life stage for preteens, they should add it onto the teen stage. So when you begin your life as a teen it immediately starts out as a younger teen( 13-15) and they’d look slightly older than children. Then, halfway through the life stage they grow into older teens (16-19) like the ones that are already in the game. But no changes should really occur between them as far as gameplay goes.
I wish children and teens would gradually gain height instead of magically grow taller when they age up. This mod proves that the clothes are not problem for the different heights.
Redhead sims actually has some sliders for that, as well as one for aduts/teens. I actually prefer that one since the legs don't bend weirdly on short sims, but you can use it together with Luumia's since they're in different places.
I think pre-teen stage of life could be a cool feature. A sim becomes slightly smarter and encounters his/her first real tasks and responsibility. In this age kid absorb any information so fast and they start to reflect their parents. So I think it could influent further character traits and some additional perks maybe. So it's gonna be a hard time parenting that could add some challenge for the player.
i feel like proper height differences would be possible in ts4 if they made teens a little bit shorter by defualt and had height presets that are a little bit different, but enough that you feel. like you're customizing sims. and then they would only really have to tweak the animations a little bit. to make them work. also i'm just now learning that luumia does the official trailers that's so cool???
if we had a pre-teen update, it would include like - first crushes - middle school - maybe like a special social media for pre-teens - more modest clothes - responsibility
Thank you for mentioning it’s a mod in the caption! It’s literally so annoying when UA-camrs don’t do that & pretend it’s a new base game feature for clicks
I love height sliders! The one I use is feet based, and I’ve noticed that it forces npc sims to have variating heights because of this. Brant Hecking is SO TALL 😂
I also want more distinction between young adults and adults, they seem so similar. I'd love to have some more gameplay specific to young adults. Maybe with an elders update!😂
The fact that teens are the same height as adults has bothered me so much since the game released, going from previous games where they had this sorted it was a real disappointment to see them take that away.
Yes, preset heights would be great, it would also help for storytelling when the kids inherit different heights and how they feel about it, maybe some mean interactions related to height... I dunno
I do agree that teens look too old. I, however, tend to have a lot of fun “aging down” teens in CAS. I give them pimples, braces, make their frames a bit smaller, give them bolder makeup and hair choices that I then change when they age up, etc. it’s really the only time I enjoy CAS.
i would just love more realistic and dynamic body sliders in general. for example, the fat sliders only *expand* things like the arms and stomach and stuff, it’s not really that realistic how real bodies look. if anyone knows any good body slider mods please let me know!
Im pretty sure this mod has been out there for along time ... Because i remember seing claire Siobhan have sims with different hights ... And i always wondered how ?
I feel like the compromise that the sims team could do is just have different set heights - like tall, medium short presets. it would still be more work and require more animations, but it wouldn't be as difficult or complex as a dynamic height slider would be
i prefer godjul's height slider mod bc it's tied to the feet size. so most sims in the game are automatically going to get new heights, u dont have to manually change any sims' neck size like this one. but omg does a height slider make the game just that much more polished
BTW I have a similar mod in my game, but the slider is in the sim's feet. It also makes existing sims in your game different height automatically. Can't remember the name tho..
I use the auto shorter teens mod and I still think we need preteens at least in sims 5. the jump from child to teen (even if teens are shorter) is too drastic. and the excuse that EA wouldn’t fully flesh out an additional life stage isn’t enough to justify them not doing it in my opinion. for preteens they could focus more on puberty, add a middle school, and something like the first crush mod but expanded a bit
There is a shorter teen height mod, that automatically makes all teens shorter than the adults, there is also a child height slider mod, so you can have the children look different ages.
Honestly though when you think about it really makes sense that teens and young adults are the same height, because at a certain age lots of people stop growing. And therefore stay the same height.
I resonantly messed around a lot with sliders in sims 3. And a lot of the times the sims would snap there hands to the thing they where trying to touch and it looks kinda the same here. So it seams that hand positioning inset hard coded into the game. Meaning that implementing more height options would work.
It is not necessary to wait for th4 to add length control. The same mod can be updated and made compatible with the game without any problems (Actually, I'm using a translator, so you might find errors in my words)
I agree, I would rather get updates on kids and teens rather then add that middle stage. If you really wanted to you could always download the pre-teen mod. That's what I use for an in-between stage and I'm content with just that.
There’s multiple height sliders out there, one of those mods set the Teen height to be shorter by default. And, I think it came out a few years after TS4 released. A few of the other height sliders don’t have the stiff leg or bendy leg issue Lumia’s mod has when making sims taller/shorter.
How they could make it so every interaction works would be for kissing: lips to lips. And those two points attract to each other (like magnents) instead of it being “at this height will be the kiss”
I love this mod but it made my game glitch and lag a lot, once I removed it it went smoothly. still amazing though, I loved giving all my sims different heights, especially the teenagers
I love using those height presets! It's adorable when my really tall dude goes to kiss his very short girlfriend, but she kind of just...nuzzles his chest 😅
As someone who primarily plays the famously glitchy Skyrim, minor visual bugs don't bother me. Great mod! If I weren't already on a 10+ minute save load time from cc I'd get it lol re: Preteens, I agree that I'd rather see the existing lifestates get expanded first. Toddlers having only a few skills and activities makes sense- they are toddlers after all- but children to this day have only four skills and a single aspiration for each, and after playing for a few years it feels like a slog to hurry up and get them into teens so they can go ahead and get to the skills/aspirations that actually ""matter"" (not to mention the extra gameplay of high school)
honestly tall mortimer and short bella make SO much sense like- I wish they added that fr because it really adds so much personality, like, perhaps, for example nancy is ex-model or something which adds a lot of dimension and sense for her to be mean because she spent her formative years in a highly competitive career
i used to have a similar mod in my game (whichever one it is where you adjust the height by changing the size of their feet) and i had a sim couple who were slightly different heights. just enough that when the taller one kissed the shorter one "on the cheek" he actually kissed his temple. it was adorable and i looked like the surprised pikachu meme the first time i saw it fr
Before I found out about the "Sims can quit/join school" mod I used to use this mod when I wanted to recreate Teen characters that for some reason can't go to school (Long Term Vacations, Quitting on their own, Flunked out, and more then one case of Zombies getting involved) by shrinking YA Sims
i never thought of adding pre-teens in that way but like it makes sense, it would kind of just be filler. i just think it’s weird that i goes from a kid to teen hahab
the height slider mod has been there for quite some time by now. I have it installed, and I enjoy it, but for some reason it enjoys glitching out on me. The body presets will work fine, but the slider itself doesn't always work for me. Idk if it's conflicting with other mods, or if I'm doing something wrong, but it used to work and it doesn't anymore.
This mod is awesome, it even allows for a way to make preteens if you make your teen sim as short as you can, then adjust their figure and head size and also make their cheeks (not the same as face width) much fuller than they were before. The process of doing this is so formulaic that I'm surprised EA hasn't added a "preteen" life stage. The only bummer is that at the shorter heights, the legs bend a little awkwardly and there's no way of shortening the arms either. Also, as mentioned in the video the animations are a little off due to the size difference, but overall it works! :)
Certain CC skin overlays (applied in the skin details section) can also help to make the sim's skin look fuller, smoother, and less shadowed. This is particularly useful in the eye area since some eye shapes from the game just naturally look older and have these shadows on the lid area even without any makeup on.
I think there should be like a figuring-things out type of thing were they try to figure out who they are and what they like and a bunch of middle school clubs like volleyball and debate or something. As a pre-teen (13) i would love this
I would love to see the height sliders natively included in an update, or even presets like you said. I definitely wish teens were shorter though. Teens, young adults and adults all being the same size makes absolutely no sense to me.
why am i getting emotional about bella goth being short like me? i never really thought about sims heights before but it'd be so nice to be able to have short and tall sims.
They should add military life, working at a printing factory, and construction, which already exists but it's not like a doctor, where you can go to work and guide your sim. They should make all professions to have the go with or send alone options.
i think it would be cute if they were to add different heights, when a short and tall sim kiss the short sim can stand on their tippy toes to reach them in the animation
sadly this mod is broken by the infant patch and luumia shows no sign of updating it soon...I definitely regret updating my game because I would rather have the height difference than those annoying infants 😞 Gaaahh!!! Does anyone know other height sliders that work with the latest patch? PLEASE tell me
height presets would be a good way for EA to incorporate height differences in the future without having to fully redo the animations for every possible height. It seems like it would be easier to have variations of the same animation for a few different heights than trying to make the animation scale to any possible height in that way. Hoping for some good stuff in the future!
With the way tech has advanced i dont think they would have to make individual animations, just use a tracking system from the hands to object for example. Like paralives said they're doing
@@rowanart4810 That’s true, it probably wouldn’t be as hard to implement that into project rene since the technology is already so much more advanced than it was when the sims 4 originally came out. Fingers crossed!
Yeah! Even if it was just 3 heights.
Preach! I’ve been saying this for years. Honestly, the only animations that have issues due to height are the romantic ones. Most animations still look okay even with the height difference.
So with presets it wouldn’t even be that many animations that need tweaking.
That's what I always figured, a few preset heights.
When rigging a character, you can define specific points where the characters will "glue" their hands to during certain animations. That's probably the reason why hugging and caressing their cheeks works well, because the shoulders and the cheeks are those defined points! :)
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I wonder if they could just do this with the kissing animation as well
Yeah the only issue there is how it's handled. Since the game doesn't really know how to handle it, it just stretches out the arms or dislocates them. So the hands are no matter what going to be in the right spot but the arms will either suddenly grow or just not look attached. You notice it with the hugging and Bella's arms suddenly being longer.
Wow the way you wrote that it seems like you have knowledge about 3D Blender and game development, am I right?
With that in mind, it's probably to do with the body customizations that can already be done. Cheeks can be thinner or fuller, shoulders can be slimmer or broader, etc. Height is not the only factor that can make those animations look wrong.
WE ALL NEEDED THIS
(first)
I already had this before the video lol
This mod exists since 2018 lmao
AGREED 👍
I play on console and wish so badly this was a true game feature!
I feel like in a literal life simulator we should just have a height slider in basegame
Which is why I'm glad Paralives is planning to bc it should be an obvious aspect to people's individuality
@@zombiedeatheater Yass (I’m on console so I don’t have mod access Oof)
i’ve always wanted a height slider - this adds so much more personality and customization for your sims!!
There’s been a height slider mod for a while like a few years. Clare Siobhan used this in the latter half in her dream house series.
This mod exists since 2018 lmao
@@lixiioreo yeah, i've been using that for years, it's from a modder name godjul1 on modthesims, completely free and less buggy than this one :P
@@lixiioreo i don’t like using mods bc i’m not all that tech savvy and i don’t want to mess something up - waiting for the base game to add height sliders
@@lanawinters1964 The base game will never have height sliders
It was honestly kind of sweet to see Mortimer kiss Bella's forehead and Bella snuggled into his chest. 🥰❤️
My favourite couple
That looked kinda different for me
She legit kissed his chest
But isn’t Mortimer a horrible husband in Sims lore?
Honestly if they did do height sliders officially, it’d be so funny if sims could do height-specific interactions, because that would make some really funny and more realistic interactions.
Edit: not mean interactions, that’s not okay
omg yes like the parenthood teasing between children/teens
if they added attraction and sims can be attracted to certain heights
"Talk down to" for a sim talking to a shorter one. Depending on how big the height difference is, the shorter person could have a mad moodlet because the person isn't even that much taller.
I liked this idea.
@spam5373you literally have the "mean" tool option so I guess this could also be a part of that?
the height slider mod is such a need for me and my gameplay. it really adds difference and more levels to the game
FR
all the females are going to make male sims 6ft+
@@BearOnKeys huh😭
@@BearOnKeys idk about everyone else but im making all the women 6ft+ and all the men under 5'4
@@heckypants literally same
i’ve always wanted preteens because of the HUGE jump from child to teen and of course the lack of height change from teens to adults
There is actually a pre-teens mod you might want to try.
same, sims go from looking 8 to 18 it’s literally so jarring
Even the preteen mod they're still really tall for being like 12-14. Atleast with the height slider you can make the parents a tad taller and the preteen- teen a tad shorter. To give an illusion of a smaller preteen. I really want ea to just make a preteen stage
fr tho
for anyone who wants pre-teens, the pre teen mod is AMAZING!! It makes preteens shorter and makes them go to middle school (: they also go through different puberty centered situations
I love tjat mod! I have them go to high school but I use the chose the high school mates and then only have other pree teens in their class. Super cool!
who made that mod?
Too bad I can't download mods because I got 4 trojans once😢
(I still have the height slider mod and always testing,Always move objects on,and always full edit mode but thats pretty much it)
I love how in so many of the mod videos, Kayla already has the game open and needs to close it first. I know she's probably just trying to info you you need to close your game first, but I love the idea that she just literally never stops playing lol
I do hope Sims 5 adds height sliders. I think it would make a world of difference. Luumia is a very creative modder. Their body hair mod is amazing.
Yeah, but I just hope that sims won’t be crazy high. Like maybe a few. But I want sims to be relatively normal. Yk? 😅
Shame that Sims 5 probably won't exist... not in a decade, at least.
@joshuazimmerman5182 but I lit know crazy tall people 😭
There is an automatic shorter teens mod on mod the sims that makes the teens automatically shorter than YA and A sims. You can also choose between two heights so they can be a little shorter and even shorter. And animations are fine because all teens are the same height and there isn’t clipping with adult sims either.
Thank you! This is exactly what I want!
That feels like a perfect compromise, I think EA should have something like this in the official game
As a 4’9” 22 yr old, I can’t even begin to express how much the ability to change your sims height would mean to me!
I’d honestly prefer a teens refresh over the babies refresh. I (wrongly) theorized that because we had such a long gap of packs before High School Years that this must have meant they were doing a teen overhaul and they would finally look different, but unfortunately that wasn’t the case. I’m still optimistic though
I used to play w height sliders but it can make some interactions look awkward if the sims are too tall or too short :/ like when they kiss other sims or interact w certain objects it looks glitchy lol
Lol yup, that's the only reason why I didn't like the height mod. The animations look weird when sims were too short or tall
That and the fact that some heights tend to make your Sims' feet disappear were the main reason I ultimately stopped using this mod. It's a shame. Because if it works, it adds so much to the game.
HIGHLY agree with your point about preteens. We really just need a teen overhaul tbh. In Sims 5 I'd really like to see something similar to gradual aging for teens? "Teen" kinda covers alot of ground, so maybe as you progress through the teen lifestage their height and interaction options could change? For the latter is imagine it'd be similar to how toddlers interactions change based on their skills.
Yes! They could actually go through 'puberty' and how far along they are in it will affect how they look, in addition to other puberty stuff like acne and body hair and menstrual cycles (I know that those stuff exists in modes and some of the packs, but I really want puberty to be a proper thing, like a random bar somewhere, or a teen-specific skill, or maybe something similar to the fury system in werewolf) having them grow in hight based on how close they are to YA is the most realistic
@fruity4820 Maybe the body hair and menstrual cycle could be toggleable? Blood makes me squeamish and I don't like my sims having body hair 😭
Nancy being really tall is just perfect😭
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Sorry I just-😂 she radiates material girl /golddigger energy tbh. And geoffrey Radiates The type of husband to cheat or Be abusive. Idk😗
I also found this mod recently and it's a must-have for me! Something about seeing sims at different heights adds more realism and personality for me 😋
this is something that i really wanted. like you said we arent all the same size. im 6'4 so naturally i am taller than "most" people so when i play games that allow me to create myself i want to make my character taller. it adds to the immersion.
Same! I always want a taller sim to represent myself :D
same, but 5' instead. my sim is weird when tall
I'm 5ft 8, so im tallish for a girl. My bffs growing up were 4ft 11 and 5ft 2. Couldn't hear half of what they said 🤣🤣
@@KatelynxXxAngel 5'8 is definitely tall for a girl. that's like the perfect height though, my mother is 5'9. i had one ex that was 5'8 the rest have been like 5'5 max. lol my back already hurts, but when i got to lean over or bend down to talk/hear someone it sucks.
@@BigDaddyStev-O I'm 6"2 (when I stand up straight - i essentially gave myself Scoliosis as a kid/teen just trying to blend in). All my early BF were short, and the backache is real!
Nice thing with the height slider is that is don't just stretch or squash the Sim, it also have a proportional effect on their girth. Taller Sims are broader and smaller Sims are thinner.
What would be GREAT would be for the Sims actually progressively grow up in the infant, toddler, kid and teen life stage.
Been using this mod for years and it's great for adding more variety to my sims and I also used Luumia's body hair way before the high school dlc.
I don't feel like using animations as an excuse for the sims team to not give us something we literally had in past games is valid. Don't want to sound like a Karen, but making animations is part of their job and what we pay for.
i hope that some time in the future they actually put this in the real game because it just makes sense
I actually want preteens for the whole middle school aspect. In previous sims games, we have never gotten the full picture of what life is like. It's nice now that we will have essentially, newborns, infants, toddlers, kids, teens, young adults, adults and elderly. We almost have all of the life stages we really go through. Adding preschoolers and preteens would kind of finalize the remaining gaps we have.
@@mayacarraway8953 I think once a toddler reaches level 4 in every skill besides potty, they should enroll in preschool.
@ yes I agree
I've had this slider mod installed since I started playing and it's a game changer. if your really short sim has a child with another really short sim, their child has a chance of being short as well, same with really tall sims. it's honestly so much fun
I agree I think it sound better updating the kids and teens rather than adding pre teens. I relation to the height slider I'm still a bit concerned abuot the caress cheek-animation if it was the lower person caressing the taller person's cheek - it might be that the lower person would stick their hand into the taller persons chest or something 😅 but all in all like you I wouldn't mind some wierd looking animations, it's still a nice feature, that I might try out when I play some more 😊 Thanks for your rambling content, I love the autenticity, don't ever change ✨✨💛💛
I mean sims 4 teens are like 16/17/18, and you don't grow after that so them being noticeably shorter than adults would be weird.
@@LangkeeLongkee exactly! honestly the only way to make it not seem weird IS by adding pre teens (12-15 yrs old ish even tho 15 year olds are alr teens), and by changing the childs age from 12 ish to 6-9 ish
@LangkeeLongkee you don't stop growing until like 18-20, which is an adult. On top of that, maybe we'd rather younger teens, since you start being a teen at 13, not 16.
@jeriel preteen is 10-12, since theyre PRE teenage years. Teens start at 13, hense the teen suffix at the end of each number there. It doesn't make sense for preteens to include teen ages. Honestly, the kids are already like 12 yr old size, they just act like 6-8 yr olds. An update that makes both teens and kids a little younger looking would be the best option
@@theekatspajamas I only said 15 cuz u still look young for the most part at that age, they should just add younger teens around 14 ish or maybe 12 ish and then make kids younger
this is one of my absolute favorite mods, has been a must have for me for a while because it’s really fun to make them different heights as it gives them more personality
There was a height mod for Sims 2. I don’t mind as much that all the adults are the same size, but it really bothers me that there’s so little distinction between teens and adults in Sims 4.
I don’t really want preteens but if they implemented height presets, I’d love to see a random growth spurt feature where the kid gets taller but not quite teen height yet at the end of childhood to ease the transition into a teenager! I feel like going from 8 to like fifteen is pretty jarring lol
i am FOREVER amazed by how talented some people are. i love this!!!!
finally i can make don lothario the shortest man in town
😂😂😂 so true
that would be the funniest thing ever😭
also i gotta say i love the fact that the sims has so many amazing creators that they end up working for the actual game , i dont know a lot of other video games that is that much accessible
A pre-teen life stage would be an amazing Idea. Specifically in relation to puberty. There could be like a first period achievement thing, and like moodlets for like growing hair and voice cracks. They could add like a first day of high school thing in there, and like mood swings. Maybe a first crush thing as well. They already have a first kiss thing in the sims , but they could change it slightly for the pre-teens. Of Couse they'd have to add middle school which would change basically nothing except saying the sims are going somewhere else, but still. And best of all, they could do more than the kids, but less than the teenagers, so that it seems like way less drastic of a switch between ages.
Honestly as someone who is five feet tall in a world made for people who are at least 5'5, the fact that short sims don't fit properly in the portrait thing and u can only see the top half of their head is realistic.
SO happy you're doing more videos about mods, simsie
I haven't used mods or CC at all in the past- not for any major reason, I'm just lazy- but this mod might just be the one that makes me start using them because it really is a good change. And seeing the way the animations changed isn't much of a problem to me. I find things like the portraits and incorrect kissing animations to be funny, honestly.
Sims 4 just needs to add a height slider next to the weight and built one, it would be so much better..
this just really reminded me how cool it would be to have dwarfism rep in the sims
Have a look at the Pre-Teen mod
Its a fine temp fix for teenagers depending on the player
I like that teens are the same size, ts4 teens are like 16/17 so them being the same height actually makes sense, if teens looked younger that would be fine or if we had preteens that would nice too because Sims currently go from like 8 to 16 and that makes no sense.
Preteen life stage could be so cool though. they could make the sims have more emotion bombs, different quirks as well as maybe having more hobbies they pick up and they can have them start going through puberty through that life stage!
I imagine making all the animations for all the heights would be a major pain in the butt.
And the fact that modders still do it 😭 they are lifesavers
@@potatohead785 they're literally not...
I feel like instead of adding an entirely new life stage for preteens, they should add it onto the teen stage. So when you begin your life as a teen it immediately starts out as a younger teen( 13-15) and they’d look slightly older than children. Then, halfway through the life stage they grow into older teens (16-19) like the ones that are already in the game. But no changes should really occur between them as far as gameplay goes.
I wish children and teens would gradually gain height instead of magically grow taller when they age up. This mod proves that the clothes are not problem for the different heights.
I got so excited by the thumbnail
And then i saw the title
i use CC religiously and had absolutely no idea LUUMIA works for EA now, thats so cool
why is watching the sims when you play it make it look- BETTER-
The fact that the person now works for the Sims gives me high hope that there will be official sliders either in sims 4 or 5.
I’ve had this height slider mod for a while now, and I love it!
I just wish that it worked for children and toddlers too-
Redhead sims actually has some sliders for that, as well as one for aduts/teens. I actually prefer that one since the legs don't bend weirdly on short sims, but you can use it together with Luumia's since they're in different places.
I think pre-teen stage of life could be a cool feature.
A sim becomes slightly smarter and encounters his/her first real tasks and responsibility. In this age kid absorb any information so fast and they start to reflect their parents. So I think it could influent further character traits and some additional perks maybe. So it's gonna be a hard time parenting that could add some challenge for the player.
i feel like proper height differences would be possible in ts4 if they made teens a little bit shorter by defualt and had height presets that are a little bit different, but enough that you feel. like you're customizing sims. and then they would only really have to tweak the animations a little bit. to make them work.
also i'm just now learning that luumia does the official trailers that's so cool???
if we had a pre-teen update, it would include like
- first crushes
- middle school
- maybe like a special social media for pre-teens
- more modest clothes
- responsibility
There is a preteen mod
@@AutisticKittyStar i play on console 😊
Thank you for mentioning it’s a mod in the caption! It’s literally so annoying when UA-camrs don’t do that & pretend it’s a new base game feature for clicks
I love height sliders! The one I use is feet based, and I’ve noticed that it forces npc sims to have variating heights because of this. Brant Hecking is SO TALL 😂
i wish there weren't so many issues with animations so this could be a part of the actual game, i think it would add so much to customization
If there’s one thing I can count on, it’s Kayla saying she’s going to link a video down below and it will never be linked down below 😂
There’s also a mode when you can change the body type of a child!
I also want more distinction between young adults and adults, they seem so similar. I'd love to have some more gameplay specific to young adults. Maybe with an elders update!😂
The fact that teens are the same height as adults has bothered me so much since the game released, going from previous games where they had this sorted it was a real disappointment to see them take that away.
Yes, preset heights would be great, it would also help for storytelling when the kids inherit different heights and how they feel about it, maybe some mean interactions related to height... I dunno
I miss when Luumia modded. Dude is just the best
I do agree that teens look too old. I, however, tend to have a lot of fun “aging down” teens in CAS. I give them pimples, braces, make their frames a bit smaller, give them bolder makeup and hair choices that I then change when they age up, etc.
it’s really the only time I enjoy CAS.
i would just love more realistic and dynamic body sliders in general. for example, the fat sliders only *expand* things like the arms and stomach and stuff, it’s not really that realistic how real bodies look. if anyone knows any good body slider mods please let me know!
Im pretty sure this mod has been out there for along time ...
Because i remember seing claire Siobhan have sims with different hights ... And i always wondered how ?
I feel like the compromise that the sims team could do is just have different set heights - like tall, medium short presets. it would still be more work and require more animations, but it wouldn't be as difficult or complex as a dynamic height slider would be
i prefer godjul's height slider mod bc it's tied to the feet size. so most sims in the game are automatically going to get new heights, u dont have to manually change any sims' neck size like this one. but omg does a height slider make the game just that much more polished
BTW I have a similar mod in my game, but the slider is in the sim's feet. It also makes existing sims in your game different height automatically. Can't remember the name tho..
I'M 143CM AND I'VE WANTED THIS SINCE I FIRST GOT THE SIMS BC IT'S SO WEIRD TO SEE ME AS TALL AS OTHER PEOPLE I KNOW AIDBSIDBJD
I experience Sims 4 teenagers, young adults, and adults, as 'the same age'. Thank you for the fun video!
I use the auto shorter teens mod and I still think we need preteens at least in sims 5. the jump from child to teen (even if teens are shorter) is too drastic. and the excuse that EA wouldn’t fully flesh out an additional life stage isn’t enough to justify them not doing it in my opinion. for preteens they could focus more on puberty, add a middle school, and something like the first crush mod but expanded a bit
There is a preteen mod that had all of those things
@@AutisticKittyStar I know but I’m saying we need it officially in the game for sims 5 at least
really want the sims to add this for the people who can't download mods 😭😭
There is a shorter teen height mod, that automatically makes all teens shorter than the adults, there is also a child height slider mod, so you can have the children look different ages.
Maybe this mod author should add this here mod to the game
Honestly though when you think about it really makes sense that teens and young adults are the same height, because at a certain age lots of people stop growing. And therefore stay the same height.
I resonantly messed around a lot with sliders in sims 3. And a lot of the times the sims would snap there hands to the thing they where trying to touch and it looks kinda the same here. So it seams that hand positioning inset hard coded into the game. Meaning that implementing more height options would work.
It is not necessary to wait for th4 to add length control. The same mod can be updated and made compatible with the game without any problems (Actually, I'm using a translator, so you might find errors in my words)
There was already a way to change the height of the sims from clicking their neck but they updated it I guess
I agree, I would rather get updates on kids and teens rather then add that middle stage. If you really wanted to you could always download the pre-teen mod. That's what I use for an in-between stage and I'm content with just that.
There’s multiple height sliders out there, one of those mods set the Teen height to be shorter by default. And, I think it came out a few years after TS4 released.
A few of the other height sliders don’t have the stiff leg or bendy leg issue Lumia’s mod has when making sims taller/shorter.
How they could make it so every interaction works would be for kissing: lips to lips. And those two points attract to each other (like magnents) instead of it being “at this height will be the kiss”
I love this mod but it made my game glitch and lag a lot, once I removed it it went smoothly. still amazing though, I loved giving all my sims different heights, especially the teenagers
I love using those height presets! It's adorable when my really tall dude goes to kiss his very short girlfriend, but she kind of just...nuzzles his chest 😅
As someone who primarily plays the famously glitchy Skyrim, minor visual bugs don't bother me. Great mod! If I weren't already on a 10+ minute save load time from cc I'd get it lol
re: Preteens, I agree that I'd rather see the existing lifestates get expanded first. Toddlers having only a few skills and activities makes sense- they are toddlers after all- but children to this day have only four skills and a single aspiration for each, and after playing for a few years it feels like a slog to hurry up and get them into teens so they can go ahead and get to the skills/aspirations that actually ""matter"" (not to mention the extra gameplay of high school)
Have you unchecked the "show mods at startup option"? I've heard that that helps with load time.
honestly tall mortimer and short bella make SO much sense like-
I wish they added that fr because it really adds so much personality, like, perhaps, for example nancy is ex-model or something which adds a lot of dimension and sense for her to be mean because she spent her formative years in a highly competitive career
i used to have a similar mod in my game (whichever one it is where you adjust the height by changing the size of their feet) and i had a sim couple who were slightly different heights. just enough that when the taller one kissed the shorter one "on the cheek" he actually kissed his temple. it was adorable and i looked like the surprised pikachu meme the first time i saw it fr
Before I found out about the "Sims can quit/join school" mod I used to use this mod when I wanted to recreate Teen characters that for some reason can't go to school (Long Term Vacations, Quitting on their own, Flunked out, and more then one case of Zombies getting involved) by shrinking YA Sims
i never thought of adding pre-teens in that way but like it makes sense, it would kind of just be filler. i just think it’s weird that i goes from a kid to teen hahab
the height slider mod has been there for quite some time by now. I have it installed, and I enjoy it, but for some reason it enjoys glitching out on me. The body presets will work fine, but the slider itself doesn't always work for me. Idk if it's conflicting with other mods, or if I'm doing something wrong, but it used to work and it doesn't anymore.
This mod is awesome, it even allows for a way to make preteens if you make your teen sim as short as you can, then adjust their figure and head size and also make their cheeks (not the same as face width) much fuller than they were before. The process of doing this is so formulaic that I'm surprised EA hasn't added a "preteen" life stage. The only bummer is that at the shorter heights, the legs bend a little awkwardly and there's no way of shortening the arms either. Also, as mentioned in the video the animations are a little off due to the size difference, but overall it works! :)
Certain CC skin overlays (applied in the skin details section) can also help to make the sim's skin look fuller, smoother, and less shadowed. This is particularly useful in the eye area since some eye shapes from the game just naturally look older and have these shadows on the lid area even without any makeup on.
There is a preteen mod
I think there should be like a figuring-things out type of thing were they try to figure out who they are and what they like and a bunch of middle school clubs like volleyball and debate or something. As a pre-teen (13) i would love this
I would love to see the height sliders natively included in an update, or even presets like you said. I definitely wish teens were shorter though. Teens, young adults and adults all being the same size makes absolutely no sense to me.
why am i getting emotional about bella goth being short like me? i never really thought about sims heights before but it'd be so nice to be able to have short and tall sims.
They should add military life, working at a printing factory, and construction, which already exists but it's not like a doctor, where you can go to work and guide your sim.
They should make all professions to have the go with or send alone options.
Like you have saved my life i was going to kms but you made me better just wanted you to know
i think it would be cute if they were to add different heights, when a short and tall sim kiss the short sim can stand on their tippy toes to reach them in the animation
I think in the pre-teens they could add puberty
sadly this mod is broken by the infant patch and luumia shows no sign of updating it soon...I definitely regret updating my game because I would rather have the height difference than those annoying infants 😞 Gaaahh!!! Does anyone know other height sliders that work with the latest patch? PLEASE tell me
oh so THATS why I can't find the slider...u can still use the height presets but yeah
I just want teens that don't look like adults. The game generates teens with some really impressive facial hair.
I love your vids! You're amazing!!