myself,i would definitely strip a little more of the sleeve and twist the two together and then solder and then shrink wrap..its nit gonna hurt to have a little more wire length soldered for sake if wires not coming apart ... nit critisizing at all..its brilliant that your suggesting to do this cut and solder thing in the first place ... bravo
Aey bruh. Just Incase you didn't know. Soldering is a lot easier if you keep the iron tip clean. Get a wet sponge and when you get done soldering something, while it's still hot, jus rub it across the sponge. That solder has a flux core in it and flux is an oxidizer so it's very important to neutralize the flux before you put it away
Can you give us links to the connectors needed to mod the controller? I am really good at soldering and would like to buy a bunch in bulk. would you be willing to work together? I will mod the controllers for you if you tell me what needs to be done. then send them to you.
I have a quick question? You mentioned for the Hall wiring that there was 6 wires but I only counted 5 where is the sixth one cause mine has a pink wire that says high break do I connect that wire also to the hall wiring or do I leave it out?
The extra wire is coming out of the bird scooter. The 6th wire is white and it’s not needed.On your controller (that you buy ) you will have 5 wires on your hall wire connector. And on the opposite side (on the scooter ) like I mentioned you will have 6 wires.. you want to match color with color! Every color is going to match. And at the end you were going to be left with one wire (white wire) that’s the extra wire ! Don’t use it you can clip it or just leave it.
Hey bro just wanted to say thank you for all the post. Especially with these Birds. Your a Savage for all this. So hey, I got a scooter that I'm trying to wire up properly but don't know how to connect all the wires to all the right places. But I need to get this thing back up and running because I'm gonna be using it for delivery with Uber Eats, Door Dash and Postmates maybe. And I have looked EVERY DAMN PLACE I CAN online and can't not find the wiring diagram for this model scooter. The scooter I have is called an " OUTSTORM MAXX. It's a Dual Hub motor with dual controllers. The thing halls ass . Before all this I had this scooter hitting 60 miles an hour. So if I shot you some pics of what I'm working with, do you think you could help me out. You just seem to be the only person online that seems to know their shit. And that's what I need. I would really appreciate it. Thanks bro.
Only thing that the two need connected together is positive and negative to the same battery, each controller and hall to separate wheel hub and then the connector that goes to your throttle should have 5 or six wires. Need to connect the green (signal wire) blue (rx wire) red ( 5 volts wire) that should start it up.
lol looking back at the video yes, this was a very cheap soldering iron 😂 if I remember correctly, I purchased it at Walmart for about $6 . It really wasn’t all that it didn’t even have a temperature setting . The one I’m using now is OK , purchase from Amazon for about $20 about 6 months it’s still going strong. I’ve already gone through about 7 soldering irons all together 💀
Hi, i was wondering if u knew which wires go where. I got a Hover1 alpha, but the dash is screwed, someone gave me max g30 dash and i was wondering how to connect to the Hover1 esc(wiring order) thanks
I don’t believe you can do that, the 2 have different protocols. Feel free to send me pictures at my discord , there’s about 200 people on my discord plenty of people with lots of information
great info - i bought a "blue duck" from someone that bought 100 at auction. how to convert? controller model x6-pcm-v1 dc 36v 15 amp. what do i need to convert and how? can you help?
I would go with the 350w brushless controller because it is somewhat small and compatible..this controller should have no problem fitting inside the housing of your scooter..
I have sabvaton 72/200a, Can someone please show me how to add reverse feature to my e-bike ?, even though I don’t have reverse plug on my controller or the learning wires.
I have a Phantomgogo R1 36v scooter. The make and model are Sine wave brushless controller 2HM-0. When I tested the 5v red wire coming out of the controller I found that the 5 volt Red Wire is pushing 17.44 volts. I am afraid of connectiing the.controller to the throttle because I do not want to damage the throttle. Is this high voltage normal or is it a defect? Will it destroy my throttle?
I got a issue when under load it vibrate all wire is connected good when wheel off the ground it runs smooth did learning couple time to make sure it wasnt that still same thing 30Amax 36v controller mated with a 30a 36v 10ah battery onto a jetson bolt pro it runs fine after say 5mph but that frist few mph it have a vibration idk any ideas will help also i seen might be a controller phase wire mix and match will fix but idk help!
Sorry it default to my other ACCT No shunt mod also i recently upgraded to 48v 20ah with the same 30A controller plus a voltage booster boosted to 65.5 volt the booster only allow 22A max but still does the same thing when swap back to my old controller its normal maybe to many A is push thur the motor ???
I can't get my bird to charge. The charger just turns red for half a second then green immediately and stays like it's fully charged already when I know it's not I've been riding around on it a while. It's a bird 3.
It should charge like normal without any issues or without having to do anything to it ! Make sure on the back of the battery that your charging cable is plugged in all the way
Will my throttle turn the motor if I don't hook up the hall line and just hook up the throttle line? I converted a spin rental scooter with a new controller but when I put the throttle line to it the motor spins without hitting the throttle and my hall line is just hanging free from the controller and idk what it's really for
Sure it’ll work! It’ll probably sounds funky though , like a grinding sound, when starting Throttle and when wheel starts to slow down you will also start to hear that grinding like sound. If you have them use them tho. But if there’s was a case where they the Hall effect sensor wires where missing then yes.Just Connect your motor
@@pjscootermods do I need to use my self learn wires to get the throttle right? Cause as soon as I hook the wires to the throttle.on the controller the wheel spins full speed. No grinding tho
@@hucktrucks1161 self study wires are for your motor in case it it’s spinning backwards, or if it’s locked and it just vibrates you want to connect your self study Wires until you see your wheel spinning in the right direction. You can send me pictures at my discord, videos to
Hey man I’m stuck I think I cut the wrong wire I’m not sure can I send you a photo of what I have going on.? Are there suppose to be extra wires on the controller?
There should be some connectors that are not used that should be extra! But don’t worry about those. Like your alarm wire, three speed switch wires, Single ground wire, self study Wires, high/low end wires. Etc.. you’re only using what’s needed which should be Throttle Wires Motor wires Hall wires Positive negative wire And then your headlight wire you will have to make or simply buy a step down converter for that .
If you are referring to solder Seals as Wires cramps, then I’m sure you can. As long as the connection gets through to where it needs to go you should be good to go.. but I would also make sure that you cramp your wires very well to avoid creating a short circuit..
Why don’t you start wiring a actual switch to cut power to the controller? It’s very simple. Take a line off battery or pull from the alarm power wire and run that through a switch back to the thin red wire or key switch wire. That will kill all power to the controller.
Yo ! OK so the scooter only has back wheel drive , but most certainly it can work on two motors. One controller per motor. Simple all you need to do is swap out that front wheel with a hub motor that fits. That would be a beast , scooter does not have to work as hard as it would with it riding on one motor. It be more efficient and less stress on a single motor .
Hey,1st time doing this.got the brain controller and display that was like 60 bucks.I cant figure out how to use the original throttle tho.????need help fast.
@@pjscootermods ok.thanks.im having a hell of a time.theres the 2nd black and red plug coming from battery to charger port,trying to figure out what plugs there
i picked up a new bird today wired it all correct hooked it up same shit error code 28.do u have the correct p settings for thnis scooter?plz send tthem to me??
Oh I see! Thanks for the information! I just ordered the controller… any idea on where to get the headlight for the bird 2? I found one with the headlight assembly missing
@@artymcflyy6755 no idea bro ! The right way to go would probably be going to an auction and finding a similar Scooter with the same parts.. if it was me I’d probley just pop 1 off a rental 🤷♂️ and go from there
wire red thin cable to main supply , main power supply should have 3 wires 1 thick black 1 thick red and 1 thin red.. The thin red is the key switch which needs to be soldered in to the thicker red wire in order for the controller to activate..
Because all the wires are smaller and I have to do a lot of folding these wires in place at the end and that might require some tugging the wires, just wouldn’t wanna risk pulling a wire out from the crimp, or something may come loose due to the vibration while riding the scooter. Solder kind of acts as a weld so I’m less likely to have that issue.a crimp is sort of like vice to hold something in its place. It’s not something you see a lot of people using on scooters. Although it may seem more time sufficient and faster. I would recommend sticking with soldering .
@@pjscootermods so I have a shengmilo mxo2s 1000w 48v mountain bike bought it last year it's got about 1400 miles I was riding my bike then it stopped working had to peddle home which was bitch this bike like 80 plus pounds .. I upgraded to a little bit better controller forgot exactly and can't read the letters on it no more.. I went and bout a new throttle thumb my old one was half twist.. so I hooked all that up the name to the thumb throttle is gz3 got a few dif wire colors when I turn it on it says error 010 iv tore this bike completely apart all the way to the motor.. so I put it all back and hooked up the original but when that powers on it reads code error 009 I'm ready to throw this bike in the dumpster
@@charleskleinschmidt5021 Error Code 09: Controller When thinking of the controller, think of it as the nerve center of your scooter. Unfortunately, when E09 comes up on the display, this is not a good sign. For most situations, this means something has burned out as a result of harsh riding, water damage, or your MOSFET burning out
I’ve been trying to find a video that really shows how soldering works in its best and thanks God I came access yours man. Bless 😊
Much appreciated 🤝
myself,i would definitely strip a little more of the sleeve and twist the two together and then solder and then shrink wrap..its nit gonna hurt to have a little more wire length soldered for sake if wires not coming apart ... nit critisizing at all..its brilliant that your suggesting to do this cut and solder thing in the first place ... bravo
Aey bruh. Just Incase you didn't know. Soldering is a lot easier if you keep the iron tip clean. Get a wet sponge and when you get done soldering something, while it's still hot, jus rub it across the sponge. That solder has a flux core in it and flux is an oxidizer so it's very important to neutralize the flux before you put it away
Thanks for the tip
you a legend bro ty for all this
soldering on the carpet like a boss!
Towel
Your sick with it ma boy!
Where do you get the six hall wires from after you do the three phase wires? I can’t tell which fitting you put on those.
Thanks
Can you give us links to the connectors needed to mod the controller? I am really good at soldering and would like to buy a bunch in bulk. would you be willing to work together? I will mod the controllers for you if you tell me what needs to be done. then send them to you.
Bird does prosecute thieves so you know ... 😆
I have a quick question? You mentioned for the Hall wiring that there was 6 wires but I only counted 5 where is the sixth one cause mine has a pink wire that says high break do I connect that wire also to the hall wiring or do I leave it out?
The extra wire is coming out of the bird scooter. The 6th wire is white and it’s not needed.On your controller (that you buy ) you will have 5 wires on your hall wire connector. And on the opposite side (on the scooter ) like I mentioned you will have 6 wires.. you want to match color with color! Every color is going to match. And at the end you were going to be left with one wire (white wire) that’s the extra wire ! Don’t use it you can clip it or just leave it.
Hey bro just wanted to say thank you for all the post. Especially with these Birds. Your a Savage for all this. So hey, I got a scooter that I'm trying to wire up properly but don't know how to connect all the wires to all the right places. But I need to get this thing back up and running because I'm gonna be using it for delivery with Uber Eats, Door Dash and Postmates maybe. And I have looked EVERY DAMN PLACE I CAN online and can't not find the wiring diagram for this model scooter. The scooter I have is called an " OUTSTORM MAXX. It's a Dual Hub motor with dual controllers. The thing halls ass . Before all this I had this scooter hitting 60 miles an hour. So if I shot you some pics of what I'm working with, do you think you could help me out. You just seem to be the only person online that seems to know their shit. And that's what I need. I would really appreciate it. Thanks bro.
Only thing that the two need connected together is positive and negative to the same battery, each controller and hall to separate wheel hub and then the connector that goes to your throttle should have 5 or six wires. Need to connect the green (signal wire) blue (rx wire) red ( 5 volts wire) that should start it up.
Hi! Do you think that I could make a dual motor B2? It would be necessary two controllers, each controller to each motor wheel?
Absolutely you can but it’s gonna be a lot more work
That soldering iron is asking for help 😅.
I bet you that's modified soldering iron. It's a sleeper.
Nice soldering, though 👌
lol looking back at the video yes, this was a very cheap soldering iron 😂 if I remember correctly, I purchased it at Walmart for about $6 . It really wasn’t all that it didn’t even have a temperature setting . The one I’m using now is OK , purchase from Amazon for about $20 about 6 months it’s still going strong. I’ve already gone through about 7 soldering irons all together 💀
I started making bird 3. but believe me, I couldn't understand which cable we did where :D is it possible to explain a little more clearly?
Where did we connect the sensor? I never understood the 6 wires. There is a card coming out of the engine, does it not work?
thats good form to bring it so close to the base of the soldering iron! I will try to see if my 60watt iron can do better.
Hi, i was wondering if u knew which wires go where. I got a Hover1 alpha, but the dash is screwed, someone gave me max g30 dash and i was wondering how to connect to the Hover1 esc(wiring order) thanks
I don’t believe you can do that, the 2 have different protocols. Feel free to send me pictures at my discord , there’s about 200 people on my discord plenty of people with lots of information
great info - i bought a "blue duck" from someone that bought 100 at auction. how to convert? controller model x6-pcm-v1 dc 36v 15 amp. what do i need to convert and how? can you help?
I would go with the 350w brushless controller because it is somewhat small and compatible..this controller should have no problem fitting inside the housing of your scooter..
I have sabvaton 72/200a, Can someone please show me how to add reverse feature to my e-bike ?, even though I don’t have reverse plug on my controller or the learning wires.
Error 42 in btwin 920e
What's the problem?
Thanks.
I have a Phantomgogo R1 36v scooter. The make and model are Sine wave brushless controller 2HM-0. When I tested the 5v red wire coming out of the controller I found that the 5 volt Red Wire is pushing 17.44 volts. I am afraid of connectiing the.controller to the throttle because I do not want to damage the throttle. Is this high voltage normal or is it a defect? Will it destroy my throttle?
Yes that will definitely destroy your throttle to the max it should be 4.2v max for the throttle output .
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what a wonderful Lazy soldering iron MAN
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I got a issue when under load it vibrate all wire is connected good when wheel off the ground it runs smooth did learning couple time to make sure it wasnt that still same thing 30Amax 36v controller mated with a 30a 36v 10ah battery onto a jetson bolt pro it runs fine after say 5mph but that frist few mph it have a vibration idk any ideas will help also i seen might be a controller phase wire mix and match will fix but idk help!
You didn’t do a shut my did you ? That can be the reason for stuttering like that
Sorry it default to my other ACCT
No shunt mod also i recently upgraded to 48v 20ah with the same 30A controller plus a voltage booster boosted to 65.5 volt the booster only allow 22A max but still does the same thing when swap back to my old controller its normal maybe to many A is push thur the motor ???
Its a jetson bolt pro stock controller is 15A +- 1A
@@anonymousanonymous6386 well you cannot use a 48 V controller on the 36 V battery pack.. unless it says it’s rated for both 36/48v
@@pjscootermods I have a 48v 20ah battery pack i just recently upgraded my controller is rated for 48
I can't get my bird to charge. The charger just turns red for half a second then green immediately and stays like it's fully charged already when I know it's not I've been riding around on it a while. It's a bird 3.
It should charge like normal without any issues or without having to do anything to it ! Make sure on the back of the battery that your charging cable is plugged in all the way
Will my throttle turn the motor if I don't hook up the hall line and just hook up the throttle line? I converted a spin rental scooter with a new controller but when I put the throttle line to it the motor spins without hitting the throttle and my hall line is just hanging free from the controller and idk what it's really for
Sure it’ll work! It’ll probably sounds funky though , like a grinding sound, when starting Throttle and when wheel starts to slow down you will also start to hear that grinding like sound. If you have them use them tho. But if there’s was a case where they the Hall effect sensor wires where missing then yes.Just Connect your motor
@@pjscootermods do I need to use my self learn wires to get the throttle right? Cause as soon as I hook the wires to the throttle.on the controller the wheel spins full speed. No grinding tho
@@pjscootermods I can send you a video of my setup but I'm not sure how to tag you in it on here
@@hucktrucks1161 self study wires are for your motor in case it it’s spinning backwards, or if it’s locked and it just vibrates you want to connect your self study Wires until you see your wheel spinning in the right direction. You can send me pictures at my discord, videos to
@@pjscootermods here's my setup: ua-cam.com/video/doEaqqtCkyw/v-deo.html
Hey man I’m stuck I think I cut the wrong wire I’m not sure can I send you a photo of what I have going on.?
Are there suppose to be extra wires on the controller?
There should be some connectors that are not used that should be extra! But don’t worry about those. Like your alarm wire, three speed switch wires, Single ground wire, self study Wires, high/low end wires. Etc.. you’re only using what’s needed which should be
Throttle Wires
Motor wires
Hall wires
Positive negative wire
And then your headlight wire you will have to make or simply buy a step down converter for that .
So i can just solder the three motor phase wires together ? Would Solder seal work for the Three motor phase wires ?
If you are referring to solder Seals as Wires cramps, then I’m sure you can. As long as the connection gets through to where it needs to go you should be good to go.. but I would also make sure that you cramp your wires very well to avoid creating a short circuit..
Why don’t you start wiring a actual switch to cut power to the controller? It’s very simple. Take a line off battery or pull from the alarm power wire and run that through a switch back to the thin red wire or key switch wire.
That will kill all power to the controller.
I figured it out 🙌
does the controller work for both motors or just one?
Yo ! OK so the scooter only has back wheel drive , but most certainly it can work on two motors. One controller per motor. Simple all you need to do is swap out that front wheel with a hub motor that fits.
That would be a beast , scooter does not have to work as hard as it would with it riding on one motor. It be more efficient and less stress on a single motor .
i cant find my hall wires...the colors are differnet...can you help me out?
Yessir ok so it should be a connecter with 5 wires on it .also what kind of controller did you get .
Hey,1st time doing this.got the brain controller and display that was like 60 bucks.I cant figure out how to use the original throttle tho.????need help fast.
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@@pjscootermods ok.thanks.im having a hell of a time.theres the 2nd black and red plug coming from battery to charger port,trying to figure out what plugs there
@@thetruthissurreal leave that alone that’s for your chargering
i picked up a new bird today wired it all correct hooked it up same shit error code 28.do u have the correct p settings for thnis scooter?plz send tthem to me??
Yes return your stolen bird ... 😂
How did you remove the throttle?
T20 security bit ( with center hole )for b-3
T15 security bit ( with center hole )for b-2
Can you provide the link for the controller you used?
@@pjscootermods if I get the 48V would it make the scooter faster?
@@artymcflyy6755 For a higher top speed you will need to get a 48 V battery not a controller
Oh I see! Thanks for the information! I just ordered the controller… any idea on where to get the headlight for the bird 2? I found one with the headlight assembly missing
@@artymcflyy6755 no idea bro ! The right way to go would probably be going to an auction and finding a similar Scooter with the same parts..
if it was me I’d probley just pop 1 off a rental 🤷♂️ and go from there
Yeah, that is a good idea I’ll just keep looking around… thanks for the help!
this may save my life rn because i bought a replacement controller for my jetson bolt and quite literally i cannot make any connections using it
🤞
Do you have to solder or could you just twist the wires together and connect with electrical tape?
Yes !! use solder , Secure the two pieces together without the risk of them coming undone.. which is only gonna be a headache
you said i need to put a switch wire in.. whats up with that???
wire red thin cable to main supply , main power supply should have 3 wires 1 thick black 1 thick red and 1 thin red.. The thin red is the key switch which needs to be soldered in to the thicker red wire in order for the controller to activate..
Why not use crimping tool?
Because all the wires are smaller and I have to do a lot of folding these wires in place at the end and that might require some tugging the wires, just wouldn’t wanna risk pulling a wire out from the crimp, or something may come loose due to the vibration while riding the scooter. Solder kind of acts as a weld so I’m less likely to have that issue.a crimp is sort of like vice to hold something in its place. It’s not something you see a lot of people using on scooters. Although it may seem more time sufficient and faster. I would recommend sticking with soldering .
A forrasztó hegyét, végét kell használni nem a közepét. 😂
Error 10 how to fix it 🙏
Communication receiving issue between dash and controller
Be sure that you’re Motor wires are connected correctly same thing with your hall wires
@@pjscootermods so I have a shengmilo mxo2s 1000w 48v mountain bike bought it last year it's got about 1400 miles I was riding my bike then it stopped working had to peddle home which was bitch this bike like 80 plus pounds .. I upgraded to a little bit better controller forgot exactly and can't read the letters on it no more.. I went and bout a new throttle thumb my old one was half twist.. so I hooked all that up the name to the thumb throttle is gz3 got a few dif wire colors when I turn it on it says error 010 iv tore this bike completely apart all the way to the motor.. so I put it all back and hooked up the original but when that powers on it reads code error 009 I'm ready to throw this bike in the dumpster
@@charleskleinschmidt5021 Error Code 09: Controller
When thinking of the controller, think of it as the nerve center of your scooter. Unfortunately, when E09 comes up on the display, this is not a good sign. For most situations, this means something has burned out as a result of harsh riding, water damage, or your MOSFET burning out
@@pjscootermods idk how to figure out hall wires but I'll change a hole display and throttle and control and when I do that it says code error 009
@@pjscootermods code error 010*******
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You need soldering lessons....wow.
Total gresit, se baga ambele fire una in alta se rasucesc ambele cap la cap , si ulterior se îmbrăca in cositor de calitate, etc
Hey yo mannng, where u live? I really wanna pay you to do mine . For real
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