Burnout 5 2006 pre-alpha - Burnout Paradise 10th Anniversary Stream
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Streamed 22.1.18 - / burninrubber0
Celebrating Burnout Paradise's 10th birthday, we go back and look at the earliest known dev build of the game. This stream is mostly unorganized, but covers most of the map, a few vehicles, and a fraction of the debug menu.
If you have any questions, please read the FAQ in the comments. If your question isn't answered there, leave a comment and I'll do my best to answer it.
FAQ:
Q: WTF is this thing?
A: This is an Xbox 360 development build of Burnout 5 from November 2006. It's an early pre-alpha build, meaning most gameplay elements are missing, it's riddled with bugs, and if you're expecting spit and polish, you're in for a shock.
Q: Burnout 5? I thought it was Paradise's birthday?
A: Paradise is the name of later versions of Burnout 5. At this point in the game's life, they hadn't thought of a name.
Q: Pre-alpha?! Looks fine to me. Besides, how would you know the game's development cycle?
A: We know it's pre-alpha because the E3 2007 builds from July - 8 months after this one - are also pre-alpha. That's all the confirmation we need.
Q: Why didn't you look at every car? Why'd you do x instead of y? Why why why...
A: It's a 2-hour stream. I opted to look at the map and the cars that are most unique, rather than sit and showcase every vehicle or scan the debug menu.
Q: So, are there pictures of all the cars?
A: Yes, there are! imgur.com/a/KEd5N
Q: How about the debug menu? Will you show more of that?
A: It's possible I'll devote a video to it, but if so, it won't be soon. Otherwise, no.
Q: Did Impact Time and Aftertouch work?
A: Impact Time is automatically activated when you crash and has to be manually deactivated. Aftertouch also works, but isn't really shown in the stream as it's too difficult to hit rivals.
Q: What's with the Nascar track?
A: I believe it was used for testing purposes; however, that's unknown at this time.
Q: Will you do this again soon?
A: Probably not. This was a special occasion. Normally I can't do streams due to time constraints and other interests.
Q: Can I get the build?
-A: Short answer: No. I won't be answering questions about this, where I got it, how much it cost, etc.-
A: As of Feb 16 2019, the build has been leaked to the public. So as to avoid people getting themselves infected in their desperation, or something similarly bad, I have linked it. You can find it here: www.mediafire.com/file/1m4tm5b9poqg75n/Burnout_Paradise_%2528Alpha_2006-11-13%2529.7z/file
Q: I have another question that isn't here. Can you answer it?
A: Reply to this comment and I'll try to work it into the FAQ. That said, if you ask something unrelated or already covered here, you may be greeted with silence.
burninrubber0 what was that race track near the beginning? And where on the map was it?
Harry Sheldon it’s in DownTown Paradise and Palm Bay Hights
Harry Sheldon basically on the top right of Paradise city
burninrubber0 in the alpha version of Burnout Paradise, the cars actually fall apart (just like the P12). But in Burnout Paradise today the cars don’t split apart or crumble into tiny pieces. They should bring back the physics from Burnout 5
W0lverine 1231 wish they would have kept that, the Nascar car would have made more sense.
36:40 holy shit that looks so brutal
you can even see the engine torn apart
Not as brutal as not having new burnout game for 13 years.
I love how loud the reverb is
DAMN
car made of lego bricks
3:45 the most funniest crash ever
waves
When you try to silently fart in the car
more like 32:24
and 33:27
All of the vehicles I could identify:
Euro Concept: It's the Rossolini Tempesta. Looks identical to the final game All of the cars appear to have simpler beta names, like in earlier games in the series.
Classic Muscle: Not to be confused with the Burnout Dominator car of the same name. This car has nothing in common with its predecessor, and is instead based on a Chevrolet Camaro. Does not make it into the final game.
Cop Car: Police version of one of the traffic cars. It's still in the final, but never spawns on the streets to my knowledge. Its engine sound is not in the final game at all, either.
Euro Supercar: It's the Jansen X12. Identical to the final. Not much to see here.
Low Rider: It's the Carson Opus, still bearing its Revenge/Dominator name. The model appears to be in a very early state. All removable parts (doors, etc.) are absent and almost the whole car is see-through.
705 US Muscle: An unknown, unfinished car. It's tough to pinpoint what it's based on since the model is almost nonexistent, only the rear bumper and exhaust pipes exist, besides the wheels and windows. Appears to have already been cut by the time of this build.
Detroit Racer: It's the Carson 500 GT. Appears to be identical to the final. Its beta name suggests it may have been originally intended to be the Factory R190 GT from Burnout Revenge, as its codename is Detroit Racer, but that idea didn't make it very far.
US 705 Super: It's the Jansen P12. The rear end looks vastly different from the final, making it have an even stronger resemblance to the Vector Wiegert W8. Its paintjob is also absent from the final. I honestly like this design more and it's a shame they didn't go with it.
World Racer: An early version of the Krieger PCPD Special. The livery is vastly different, a bit more basic than the final, and the car still lacks a siren. It also has a much deeper sound, unlike in the final, where both it and the Racing WTR have an F1-like V10 sound.
RWD Sports: It's the Montgomery Hawker Solo. It appears to be in an early state, with the entire car see-through, and you might believe it to be a regular Hawker at first glance, but if you crash, it will return to normal, revealing the Hawker Solo's livery. It's identical to the final apart from a few graphical glitches. The car might pop in and out of existence every now and then.
B2 Custom Coupe: B2 stants for Burnout 2, so you can guess this is in fact the Kitano Hydros Techno, still bearing its old name. It's in a very early state, with many parts missing.
B-Team Van: It's the Carson Inferno Van, still bearing its old name. It's the earliest car so far, being just a few metal frames on wheels. Looks like they had only just began working on it.
US Concept Muscle: It's the Carson GT Concept, specifically its Burning Route variant, the GT Flame. It's almost identical to the final, with only the tail lights being different, resembling older '60s Camaro models more than the Camaro Concept the car is based on.
B2 Roadster: It's the Watson R-Turbo Roadster, still bearing its old name. Almost identical to the final, except for the absence of any badging on the car.
Asia Street Racer: It's the Kitano Touge Sport. Identical to the final in design, but it sports an unique paintjob not seen in the final game.
B1 Sports: It's the Nakamura SI-7, still bearing its old name. Identical to the final.
B1 Saloon GT: It's the Nakamura Ikusa GT, still bearing its original name. The whole car is see-through, but you can notice the tail lights are different from those seen in the final game, resembling those from a Dodge Charger SRT8 even more than the Hunter Citizen, which is based on said car.
US Classic Truck: It's the Hunter Mesquite Custom. Identical to the final, but is another car that has a cut paintjob not seen in the final game.
US Muscle Estate: It's the Hunter Spur. Very early version of the car with many parts missing.
Oval Racer: It's the Hunter Racing Oval Champ, bearing its Burnout Dominator name. It still uses its Burnout Dominator model, but with a paintjob from the final version, which looks extremely weird on the car. The car does not drive well, it bounces around and is very easy to crash.
GT Racer: Bearing the name from Burnout Dominator, this car uses the same model as the Criterion/EA GT Racers from Burnout Revenge, as well as the GT Racer in Dominator, but features an unique paintjob not seen in either game. Leftover menu icons in the final indicate this car eventually became the Krieger Überschall 8.
Muscle Street Rod: It's the Carson Annihilator. It has a different rear end from the final version. You can see why this design was scrapped as IMO it looks quite ugly.. The final version looks better.
You know there's a list of all the vehicles in the pinned comment, right?
CozmicVideos the US 70’s Muscle I think it’s the Carson Fastback Special
CozmicVideos It’s actually 70’s, not 705.
W0lverine 1231 It is.
I think that the classic muscle became the mesquite
1:23:32 I find it cool that the map was planned out so early in development. The road layout is almost the same as the final (Yeah there are a few roads missing like the massive tunnel near the Crash FM building that goes to the countryside) . Kind of a shame we lost the Nascar track though.
Honestly, it kind of had to be the first thing they needed to complete. The entirety of Paradise as a game needs the map, since it’s used for races, unlockables, game modes, everything
When you drop you Lego car in the floor 36:42.
This is literally how 90% of AAA developers release their games in the 2020's...
For hardcore fans of the game like myself, this is exciting to watch. Love the video - thanks for sharing. See you in Paradise.
So cool to se what stayed, what dropped off, and what was augmented for the final release. A new lighthouse on Big Surf Beach, a stadium that is not really there, no quarry, no airfield, no Lawrence Tunnel. Awesome!
XboxBurnoutParadise Yeah, lots of things were either kept, changed up. or removed completely. The lighthouse is now at the Coastguard HQ, hence to the oblivious name, the NASCAR track that would’ve made it but for whatever random reason was removed as we now have that abandoned Lone Peaks Stock Car Track, the Lone Peaks Quarry and Eastern Shore Airfield weren’t even a thing, and the Lawrence Road Tunnel didn’t even start development. This game would’ve been much cooler, but unfortunately got redesigned as the “ultimate Burnout game” and fucked up.
Airfield didnt exist because the original big surf was an airport island. The nascar track would have been cooler than the crappy dirt one we got. Once I saw the concept/alpha map picture, I was disappointed at what we got....the map was cut in half basically.
thedarkninja7469 it was being tested to take place of the baseball stadium, but they probably figured that more people would like a small drift area instead of a massive race track. I heard that the actual track was shrunk down to the size of Bristol and was going to be called “coliseum raceway” where the oval racer would make 100% more sense as well as the F1 car.
thedarkninja7469 I have an insider at EA and I can get random info about things. But that sounds awesome.....takedown circle. As for the classic muscle, it was transformed into the Carson GT concept. Many people think it’s the cavalry, but the cavalry is a charger and the classic muscle was a 68-69 camaro. The newer version being the Carson GT concept.....or the more rare, steel wheels GT.
thedarkninja7469 the steel wheels GT was the car that replaced it as the pre order ride, that’s the only real evidence I have. I met some Criterion Devs on burnout back in 2009. The most recent talks I’ve had with the burnout dev team was with Alex ward and Fiona sperry back when 3 fields Entertainment was first formed. We talked about burnout and a bunch of paradise stuff that I can and cannot talk about. I am on Xbox and PC unfortunately, but it would be cool to see what takedown circle is.
considering the age of the build its graphics are extremely good
i do wonder if files form this build can be used to mod the finished version of burnout paradise as they must at least have some simulates
Jammy Gamer I know I’m late, but these graphics and cars were better in this build, especially the Classic Muscle.
Jammy Gamer Also, you can ask burninrubber0 on his pinned comment.
No, the city look way to empty and the colour saturation is really washed out the only thing that stands out is the crash deformation that actually look better than final relese
Man I actually love that early cop car based off the traffic sedan - it definitely took heavy inspiration from the Bluesmobile. It's a shame that didn't make it to release!
now, we need the e3 2007 beta
There's something about this kind of stuff that I love so much
I don't know why though, maybe it's the mystery
1:33:11 so this is what the icon of the Target Uberschall 8 is based on! I was always wondering why it looks slightly different from the real Uberschall. Besides that it's impressive to see how much changed since the early alpha.
46:24 is also what the Walmart WTR's icon is based on. I wouldn't mind having both in the final game tbh.
Matthew Dileva Nope, its icon clearly says Walmart on the front of the car. All three are the same thing with different skins anyway.
SerrInThaMix Yes it was. I’m really sad that the Classic Muscle never came to the game. While, yes, there were billboards of the car that don’t exist no more except for the posters of it in the Wildcats Baseball Stadium and the Film Reel Movie Theater, it was still a good car and had a good legacy that will remain with the game’s life.
Icon?
i wish burnout paradise revenge and 3 have this brutal crashes,this make these burnout the best of the franchise and Who not agreed is week,good lucky
wasnt there bcs ps2 limitation, even this was problem in final paradise game,...final game has downgraded damage model
That crashing reminds me of Split Second Velocity.
Man the damage looked so dope. Makes me wish I had this and a 360
Is it just me or do the details in the crashes look way better in this version?
Funnily enough, the hyper-realistic crash model is part of why this tiny little dev build runs so slow. It's too much for the 360's itty bitty CPU.
I think, maybe
I can’t wait till burnout paradise remastered comes out....
do i have news for you
@@tappedoutnow no
lmao burnout paradise remastered sucks, the version we see in this video is 10x better than burnout paradise remastered
I love this version of Burnout Paradise
Has the burnout revenge feel with nfs era sound effects
I like how the sounds effects are from NFS Undercover
1:07:53 should've kept this animation
no
I keep coming back to those debug build videos. Whether it's very early implementations just to say it works, or totally scrapped ideas, some of the mechanics present in those builds are vastly different, ESPECIALLY the crashes.
Afterburner and Impact Time were implemented and to be honest it would've been cool to have it in the release build, but what caught my eye even more is how the crashes act. The parts twist without it being permanent (look at the wheels at 3:18), the wheels come off with their axles, the car doesn't make hard static impacts when it rolls around, it kinda *sinks* into the surface and comes right back up, almost mimicing soft-bodies the way it absorbs energy... but without the computational struggle.
It looks so janky, and at the same time it looks more realistic. Just by looking at 36:40 / 40:56 we can see the cars were planned to have MORE dedicated parts even if the explosion of parts itself is unrealistic (no constraints between parts). On the more "finished" cars like at 3:18 we can clearly see the chassis/engine/body parts clearly being seperate from each other.
At 53:40 we can see how it isnt the car as a whole that interacts with the environment, but the individual parts collide with each other, which looks really buggy here but works TOTALLY different from what we have today.
It's almost like they had an entirely different vision of the physics, but had to tone it down either because it didn't fit the overall vision of the game, or just because the consoles couldn't run it well enough, because it looks like a vastly different, more physically-based implementation (which is a PAIN to run). The physics of today have "real-time" deformation at initial impact (if slow-mo is activated) otherwise the car acts like a rigid-body object and the deformation just *snaps*.
I have to clarify this is all just speculation, if you guys have actual facts about the changes and why they happened I'd love to hear them.
15:07 early version of the Carson annihilator because of the body shape
KevinGame3 You are wrong. It’s the Classic Muscle, a car that never made it to the game. It has been featured on a poster in the Wildcats Baseball Stadium as well as flags/banners by the Film Reel Theater. Its engine sound is in both the Carson Hot Rod Coupe and Carson Extreme Hot Rod. It’s wheels are on the Carson Fastback.
the car crashes look to be alot better aswell :O
this is mind blowing, the game literally came out a year and 2 months later if I'm calculating that right from the time this game that looks completely different was made
it looks like they have advanced damage system, unfortunately it was not in game (36:42 or 52:41 ). What we get was some animated crashes and when you play long enought you exactly know how your car will be rolled same and same over.
Will you work with the TCRF(The Cutting Room Floor) to provide maybe a bit of info on this? I'm not with them, but it'd be nice to kinda see this on there
If it were up to me, everything would've been made public upon acquisition, but it's not up to me. Sharing it has potential consequences for friends of mine. As such, I won't do anything without them giving the OK, so it looks like going to TCRF is out of the question.
I mean, it isn't like, sharing the files for it, but rather just listing differences between the final game, prototype, and putting it in a wiki format(example: tcrf.net/Proto:Dance_Dance_Revolution_Extreme_(PlayStation_2))
it got leaked this year anyway. Chip an extra Xbox and have at it for yourself. Links in the pinned comment.
Man the GT Racer sounds sexy as hell
The crashing in this beta of paradise looks way better. Old consoles couldn’t handle it properly I presume. But man I hope there will be another burnout with this kind of crash physics!
As the furthest i know about this build, the reason the race had an route in the gps was because supposedly the game would have it instead of just having the compass.
Obviously this gps route in races was abandoned quite fast becaus it wasn't am very good idea for what the creators where wanting to be the races
In my opinion the prototipe looks better than the final game
still retains the touch of classic burnouts like takedown or revenge
I love when it crashes the car kinda wobbles
LMAOOO holy shit even the devbuilds don't acknowledge dominator's existence
@Erick F
the previous games were also PS2 with some being ported to later consoles, what is your point
@@marx4538 Dominator was seen by diehard fans as the filler game for paradise
Some of these vehicles would have been fun to play with in the main game
3 years man
3 years man
making a total of 6
@@NOXAIDS Hell yeah
i think they should've kept the old deformation, but it's probably because ps3 wasn't powerful enough.
Is more at fault the lack of documentation on the CELL/BE back when this game was developed. Many of the multiplats back in 2006-2008 had to be downgraded on the 360 as well to allow a smooth porting to the PS3. Eventually the PS3 documentation got better and the devs also got more familiar with PS3.
It wasn't of power but lack of understanding on how the PS3 worked.
52:50 that was fast, also WTF?
how to open debug menu ? I press Z and just pauses game
those lower executables, what are they about (Burnout_x360_external_roa.xex for eg)
ua-cam.com/video/aNkVuzxjF_E/v-deo.html
Does anybody know what is the button combination to open the dev menu ingame?
The game really looks more blocky and textured...
I love these cars... should've kept them in the game
The Google Drive Folder doesn't work. Seems like the link is either not working, or the file doesn't exist anymore...
That shit less than 500MB lmfaao 😂😂
The build's size is over 800 MB. Maybe you're referring to the compressed size being closer to 250 MB, but then, the whole point of compression is to make things smaller.
@@burninrubber0 Alright , ye i dont remember if i extracted it btw so..
I supposed the burnout 5 its the dominator not this one
Is there a way to get this to run on either Xenia or a modded Xbox 360?
32:22 lmao 🤣
The damage model is clearly the most interesting part, and what you did was avoid crashes at all costs for the most part here. Lame.
Better than final release.
you can't actually be serious
And you have hack your Xbox 360 ? For tranforms into a R.G.H ?
Hmm........ I may give this a shot, just gotta JTAG my Xbox first; however, that's gonna be a little easier said than done LOL.
Can you tell me which cars does not crash the xbox after selecting them?
Not sure what you mean. A couple traffic cars do spazz out for some reason and are liable to crash it, but all the non-traffic cars are drivable without issue.
@@burninrubber0 in start mwnu you can choose a car but every car i have chosen crashes the game
Oh nevermind, i have 2005 build and this one is 2006
Also, how do you access that menu in 1:39
2005 build? What? That'd put it at least 11 months before this one, it'd look and play completely different. Are you able to share any screenshots?
As for car selection, it sounds like you're trying to select them right off the bat, which will indeed crash the game with anything other than the Euro Concept. Choose it first, then hit back, then B, and you can choose any car without it crashing.
How to get this beta???
He linked it in his comment since this build was leaked by someone else recently.
Graphics are from need for speed carbon
KevinGame3 How? NFS games are made from the Chameleon engine as Burnout is made from Renderware.
@@MatthewDiLeva Chameleon? I thought the engine was EAGL? Where'd you get that info?
GMV xGMVx I study on these games every day. I mostly study on this build. I used to play NFS Carbon and MW 2012 a long time ago.
@@MatthewDiLeva I didn't mean to imply you are wrong or that I am right, and I apologize if I made it sound like that. I try learning whatever I can about these games and their potentials, differences between platforms/ports etc etc. But, still, I could swear I saw something about Underground 1 running EAGL, Underground 2 (and some other EA titles) running EAGL 2 (like SSX, I think), MW and Carbon running EAGL 3 and Pro Street running EAGL 4, with Undercover also using it, but a bit modified and with its own physics engine that was very teased upon back then and not many people liked it. Do you know any other games running on this Chamelon engine you mentioned?
GMV xGMVx I only know NFS games on Chameleon. Also, I have no idea about the EAGL engine.
how do I run this?
lemme guess, reused sounds from NFS
That's correct. Many engines are shared with Carbon. It's much the same situation in the final game.
and many engines in Carbon date back to Underground 2
Can it run on Xenia?
Can run on Xenia??
I feel this is actually better than burnout paradise tbh on how the gameplay is.
Accompanied by how different the map is in comparison to the final one. At 19:52, there was a NASCAR track that was supposed to be in the final game, until it was cut due to limitations of the map’s size. The map as a whole was originally a _lot_ bigger than the final as well. There is a concept version of an earlier map design until it was changed due to the aforementioned issue.
how u get bus
nice
No Annihilator Street Rod?
DLC wasn't on the menu at that point. I do briefly drive the normal Annihilator at 1:31:21.
burninrubber0 ok
If this is burnout 5 dont name it burnout paradise because if you knew BP like we do it's way better then this shit
Bro burnout 5 is the first name of burnout paradise the devs didn't have an idea for the name of the game until paradise was came to their brain u stoopid
Aonde vende essa burnout 5 paradise 2006?
As jogos do corrida no vende poque au desarulado par essclusibo desarrolladore
Trás mais vídeo dessa burnout pofavor
Linda Paixao eu nunca vi esse burnout paradise acho que e beta
O que é beta e por favor olha que tem 2 vídeo dessa burnout 5 paradise alpha eu gostei demais
Linda Paixao beta e alguns jogos que tao em teste e ainda nao desenvolvidos tipos coloca uma coisa que depois nao tem no final do jogo!
@@darkevilbr5230 esse ñ é nem alpha e uma build de 2006 quando estavam fazendo o jogo ainda
@@marcoantoniodasilvabatista7203 ae,tbm esse comentario e old pra carai ne
looks like a crappy brand off mobile game lol