This is not usually what happens.Patients are often just dumped on a ward, often ignored, usually just given a leaflet telling their rights, toxic medication seems to be the only or main treatment option, sometimes with electroshock, our system is just as atrocious as its always been, patients are mainly left to their own devices, whilst staff congregate in the ward office, busy with paperwork, often its left to other patients to help each other, many nurses just aren't trained to do the job, or are unsuitable anyway,also ,they are usually only seen by the Psychiatrist once a week, for about ten or fifteen minutes, and if they refuse medication, are forcibly injected.WHY, everyone should have the right to not take poison, it should only ever be used in an emergency setting if someone is violent.The medication can make things a lot worse, with not only brain damage, but many serious health conditions as well.Psychiatry is mainly about manipulation and control, not about helping patients through their distress, and l am sorry to say, but with the closure of the big asylums, medicating everyone, the building of pokey little units, there is even less humanity now.
They don't do electric shock anymore, but most of the stuff you said is right. My mother has been in and out of mental health places for years. All they do is throw any tablets at her and thats it. No real aftercare or support for family members. They are there for a few months at best, then let out until another thing incident happens. Then it's starts all over again. It's a broken system that doesn't work. The staff that work at these places are very patronising and do talk down to you. I've never been sectioned but going to visit my mother, it's a horrible place to be.
Unfortunately, ECT is still used today, often on an outpatient basis.I was in a mental unit two years ago, and an elderly patient was receiving it,l was threatened with it again,and l saw patients arriving by transport to have it done in a building not far from the war d,l was surprised as l thought it wasnt used anymore, but its alive and well,although not many realise its still going on.
Jnt, (u have same name as my sis). U really know what goes on in there & I thought it must have happened to u, & can see that it has. I was innocently going home but got attacked (wasn't a pleasant thing, as no transport was coming & in an isolated area). I was taken to a local hosp.... reported it. was doing well. However, after 2 days I was told I wd be discharged, but they did not do that. I was shocked, but a social worker got involved & wd not let me leave. (she was same nationality as attacker). also, a man sat in my room doorway, as I lay in bed (same nationality as attacker). privacy then went, & I was treated shockingly. I am single, british born, with asian origins. anyway, (when finally discg'd 28 days later, kept in all thru' Christmas, really upsetting), I finally got a letter. I had only spoken to one lady clinician & that was only for her to get to know me. only 10-15 mins, but that was after 3 wks being there. The letter I received when I got home stated a whole lot of lies & was only putting me down so bad, e.g. it stated I am married, from a bengali background, been made redundant. ALL WERE NOT TRUE & LIES. why cd the lady not have spoken to me & found out the truth. seemed they wanted to cover up. & how can there ever be any grounds for det'g some1 who innocently got attacked & cd not get help as they had lost their mobile, etc. Indeed, there were no grounds for doing so. they cd not give any. they went further than that (the attacker caught on camera, got 4 yrs). was a serious miscarriage of justice. where was the compassion? & at a vulnerable time like that when I cd say hardly much, I was lied about so badly....
This is so difficult- he is making things worse for himself by shouting , talking abusively, and at the same time it is understandable since he said clearly no before , is under pressure, excited and with natural difficulties controlling himself, which no-one can in stress hormone etc-activity, and the non-verbal, old brain.And anger is natural in such a situation, only they aren't knowledgeable deeply enough to treat him right and interpret him, and therefore it gets unhappy result for him- He probably vaguely knows this too, as well as him being unable to control himself or things there, which is even more upsetting. Her talking about rights without de-escalating him psychologically first is not beneficial. I wish for a film that shows how to do it right.
What an earth is this supposed to be about? Is it supposed to demonstrate how lame mental health services are because if so it's doing a great job. I notice they've really gotten the actor to properly act as though in psychosis or distress. The staff are patronising, if anyone thinks that this is what really takes place when someone is placed under a section they are seriously deluded. There is no way staff as this 'tolerant' or person centred. Once that warrants been issued they can treat you as they wish, often can and will goad you to make you 'act up giving them more reason to hold you. This video is not a true representation it's a farce.
Poor guy! Please nurse stop! Information overload can lead to real feelings of anxiety, feeling overwhelmed and powerless, and mental fatigue. This can also lead to cognitive issues such as difficulty making decisions or making hasty (often bad) decisions. It's just too much.
PLEASE WATCH THE Dispatches program, Channel 4, re: the undercover ex-cop who gets work as a support worker, & secretly films inside! can watch online as stated below.
Chris Hart, I wd like yr views on the Dispatches program, Channel 4, re: the undercover ex-cop who gets work as a support worker, & films inside! THIS SHOULD HAPPEN MORE OFTEN to keep patients safe. u can go to their online website to watch when u r able. It's a real eye-opener. but what about the innocent who get wrongly det'd so many times... is this even known?
That nurse standing over him, arms folded, tone of voice was condescending. Grab a chair sit facing him and say “hello Mr Andrews I'm the ward manager just wanted to take few moments to come and meet you and see how you are doing?”
Sadly the system gets in the way as she has to go through his rights and processes to tick a form rather than invest time In stabilizing him and doing a proper risk assessment.
This is not usually what happens.Patients are often just dumped on a ward, often ignored, usually just given a leaflet telling their rights, toxic medication seems to be the only or main treatment option, sometimes with electroshock, our system is just as atrocious as its always been, patients are mainly left to their own devices, whilst staff congregate in the ward office, busy with paperwork, often its left to other patients to help each other, many nurses just aren't trained to do the job, or are unsuitable anyway,also ,they are usually only seen by the Psychiatrist once a week, for about ten or fifteen minutes, and if they refuse medication, are forcibly injected.WHY, everyone should have the right to not take poison, it should only ever be used in an emergency setting if someone is violent.The medication can make things a lot worse, with not only brain damage, but many serious health conditions as well.Psychiatry is mainly about manipulation and control, not about helping patients through their distress, and l am sorry to say, but with the closure of the big asylums, medicating everyone, the building of pokey little units, there is even less humanity now.
They don't do electric shock anymore, but most of the stuff you said is right. My mother has been in and out of mental health places for years. All they do is throw any tablets at her and thats it. No real aftercare or support for family members. They are there for a few months at best, then let out until another thing incident happens. Then it's starts all over again. It's a broken system that doesn't work. The staff that work at these places are very patronising and do talk down to you. I've never been sectioned but going to visit my mother, it's a horrible place to be.
Unfortunately, ECT is still used today, often on an outpatient basis.I was in a mental unit two years ago, and an elderly patient was receiving it,l was threatened with it again,and l saw patients arriving by transport to have it done in a building not far from the war d,l was surprised as l thought it wasnt used anymore, but its alive and well,although not many realise its still going on.
@@JoeyXSmith u r right, but see what I say to Jnt below.
Jnt, (u have same name as my sis). U really know what goes on in there & I thought it must have happened to u, & can see that it has. I was innocently going home but got attacked (wasn't a pleasant thing, as no transport was coming & in an isolated area). I was taken to a local hosp.... reported it. was doing well. However, after 2 days I was told I wd be discharged, but they did not do that. I was shocked, but a social worker got involved & wd not let me leave. (she was same nationality as attacker). also, a man sat in my room doorway, as I lay in bed (same nationality as attacker). privacy then went, & I was treated shockingly. I am single, british born, with asian origins. anyway, (when finally discg'd 28 days later, kept in all thru' Christmas, really upsetting), I finally got a letter. I had only spoken to one lady clinician & that was only for her to get to know me. only 10-15 mins, but that was after 3 wks being there. The letter I received when I got home stated a whole lot of lies & was only putting me down so bad, e.g. it stated I am married, from a bengali background, been made redundant. ALL WERE NOT TRUE & LIES. why cd the lady not have spoken to me & found out the truth. seemed they wanted to cover up. & how can there ever be any grounds for det'g some1 who innocently got attacked & cd not get help as they had lost their mobile, etc. Indeed, there were no grounds for doing so. they cd not give any. they went further than that (the attacker caught on camera, got 4 yrs). was a serious miscarriage of justice. where was the compassion? & at a vulnerable time like that when I cd say hardly much, I was lied about so badly....
I got an appointment next month with a mental health team but this scares the crap out of me.
Simon Coombe good luck
This poor client does not have capacity to understand or decide the flood of information. To much stimulus for his stage.
This is so difficult- he is making things worse for himself by shouting , talking abusively, and at the same time it is understandable since he said clearly no before , is under pressure, excited and with natural difficulties controlling himself, which no-one can in stress hormone etc-activity, and the non-verbal, old brain.And anger is natural in such a situation, only they aren't knowledgeable deeply enough to treat him right and interpret him, and therefore it gets unhappy result for him- He probably vaguely knows this too, as well as him being unable to control himself or things there, which is even more upsetting. Her talking about rights without de-escalating him psychologically first is not beneficial. I wish for a film that shows how to do it right.
I agree
It's OK not to be OK remember😟
What an earth is this supposed to be about? Is it supposed to demonstrate how lame mental health services are because if so it's doing a great job.
I notice they've really gotten the actor to properly act as though in psychosis or distress. The staff are patronising, if anyone thinks that this is what really takes place when someone is placed under a section they are seriously deluded.
There is no way staff as this 'tolerant' or person centred.
Once that warrants been issued they can treat you as they wish, often can and will goad you to make you 'act up giving them more reason to hold you.
This video is not a true representation it's a farce.
Poor guy! Please nurse stop! Information overload can lead to real feelings of anxiety, feeling overwhelmed and powerless, and mental fatigue. This can also lead to cognitive issues such as difficulty making decisions or making hasty (often bad) decisions. It's just too much.
PLEASE WATCH THE Dispatches program, Channel 4, re: the undercover ex-cop who gets work as a support worker, & secretly films inside! can watch online as stated below.
was thier not meant to be 2 consultants and an amp....to assess then section or not section...!!!!!!
Lisa Melight emergency situation section 4 would be the best thing for him than an assessment on the ward that would change the section to a section 3
Chris Hart, I wd like yr views on the Dispatches program, Channel 4, re: the undercover ex-cop who gets work as a support worker, & films inside! THIS SHOULD HAPPEN MORE OFTEN to keep patients safe. u can go to their online website to watch when u r able. It's a real eye-opener. but what about the innocent who get wrongly det'd so many times... is this even known?
That nurse standing over him, arms folded, tone of voice was condescending. Grab a chair sit facing him and say “hello Mr Andrews I'm the ward manager just wanted to take few moments to come and meet you and see how you are doing?”
Sadly the system gets in the way as she has to go through his rights and processes to tick a form rather than invest time In stabilizing him and doing a proper risk assessment.
Good video for my own insight. I’ve just qualified.
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was thier not meant to be 2 consultants and an amp....to assess then section or not section...!!!!!!
was thier not meant to be 2 consultants and an amp....to assess then section or not section...!!!!!!