Should Heating Allowance Be Removed From MPs, Not Pensioners?
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- Опубліковано 11 гру 2024
- Susanna challenges Building Safety Minister, Alex Morris on the use of public money and how it would be better spent on those who require it to heat their homes.
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Heating allowance should most definitely be removed from MPs, plus a whole lot more allowances which nobody else in work is entitled to! Most MPs today are amongst the wealthiest in the Country, whilst most pensioners and working families whose incomes are a few pounds above the limit to qualify for Pension Credit or Universal Credit are often among the poorest. Such is the justice in modern Britain!
Its called employee benefits and there are plenty of jobs that offer it up and down the country. Expenses are not something unique to MPs . Its the same principle as your employer reimbursing you for having to work away as part of your job. The reason these people have a second home is because their job requires it because they are required to work away from their constituencies so they buy a new home out of their own pocket, pay the mortgage on it out of their own pocket and are simply allowed to claim back expenses on their energy bills for only the second home because their job is the reason they have racked up a second set of energy bills. They are already paying energy bills on their family home and they cannot claim anything back on those. Why are GMB viewers so dense!
£350 per month allowance on energy bills for MPs, whilst I as a pensioner on £12,000 annual income pays around £350 for three months energy. and without the annual Winter Fuel Allowance! Come on, get real, they are coining it in!! @@supremeworld87
@@supremeworld87 Spoken like a true Starmerite !
@@supremeworld87Perhaps members of the armed forces who work away from home should receive similar benefits to those given to MPs. When I was serving, I had a small single cabin (without an en-suite), featuring just one plug socket, a sink, a bed, and a wardrobe, with communal showers and toilets. I had to pay for this basic accommodation. If I wanted a TV, I had to buy one myself and then pay for an additional TV license, despite already having one at home. Meanwhile, MPs have their second homes, furnishings, and heating costs covered by public funds. They should receive accommodations similar to those of armed forces members and pay for any extras themselves. After all, both are funded by taxpayer money.
Additionally, he mentioned that pensioners have been well-supported through the triple lock in recent years. Perhaps he should compare the rise in state pensions with the increase in MPs' pay and allowances to see who has truly been the most generously compensated.
@@supremeworld87so let's build a military style barracks for the visiting MPs to stay in whilst in London. Then they can sell their second home and pay capital gains on it. Oh, hang on. They dodge that don't they.
Petition should be raised for this! Cancel MP’s heating allowance!
TOO RIGHT! If us pensioners can't have it, why should they get it! Fair's fair!
It already has
@mahuanhit I kind of understand if they need a second place to stay while working in London that it should be at the employers "tax payers" expense.
However having a big swanky house with the heating on full all the time is taking the micky.
Build a halls of residence for them to stay in while at London and make them spend the rest of the time in their constituency listening to and addressing the issues there.
Petitions are pointless, only real power people hold is during elections.
Agree no such thing as a poor politician 😮
They should also be stopped having subsidised 3 course meals for under £10
Disgusting when pensions having to chose heating or eating
One wonders exactly what their high salaries actually go to provide.
@aitchellarmoire9944 yes one does 🤔 not clothes or spectacles
They should also have their subsidies removed on alcohol drinks in the bar
Notice that Ed was very quiet during this discussion. Wonder how much his wife claims!
Good point.
Better still, notice that he didn’t ask the question. Did anyone notice Ed looking shameful. Not a jot of shame.
I have to turn over when he's on, it's a massive conflict of interest having him present the show
@@Jard-z4i If Nigel Farrage is being blocked from appearing on GB News by Starmer, is he also blocking Ed from appearing on this show?
@@oojimmyflip he's not though, is he.
No mp no matter what party they are part of should ever get their heating paid for
They get paid don’t they? Use your own money not ours to pay your heating bills
Why is this so difficult for MPs to understand?
@@JustDucky-d9k It’s Animal Farm all over again.
@@margaretspencer9006 so if you had to work away as part of your job youd be happy to pay for the accommodation yourself then?
Totally agree
Absolutely why should they get heating allowance
HERE HERE.
Because THEY make the rules for THEIR own benefit, no one else's. Don't do as I do, do as I say!.
Then sit in subsidise d
@@paulbird3235 Some of us are more equal than others.
@@paulbird3235but they don’t, it’s an “independent” body. A body which strangely agrees with the recommendations for MPs conditions of employment.
Definitely. They get enough wages, allowances AND freebies !!
CANCEL ALL MPs HEATING ALLOWANCES
If they are at work as long as they claim, then they should have their heating on a bare minimum all the time!
@@Yesser-Thistle73 CANCEL THE mpS ALLOWANCE FOR HEATING
Cancel their second homes too. They can stay at hotels when they need to attend their place of work.
All the MPs should be ashamed for claiming expenses, they don't need it .
Politicians have not got any shame or brains😅
And they voted for pensioners heating allowance taken away!! No MP from any party should have their heating paid for!
They also cheered for it, disgusting behaviour. I completely agree none of them should get it regardless of party👍
And 9 of these labour mps are champions for the elderly charities haha you can't make it up
MPs should have the heating allowance removed they earn good money a person getting a pension doesn’t
Its irrelevant what they earn. theres millions who have very good salaries but their employer allows them to claim back expenses. Its one of the benefits of having a decent job
@@supremeworld87what the Labour MPs are doing is not decent cut all there allowance just like they did to the pensioners they have more than enough income to pay there own way.
@@supremeworld87 Normally in the private sector, doing "a decent job" means bringing in a profit in one way or another. Judging by the appalling standard of many MPs, they do not meet that criterion in the first place. They have a very decent job - they do not do a decent job. If they were in the private sector, many of them would have been sacked. Is that why Reeves went into politics?
@@supremeworld87 But their job involves working for the Government-ergo, the people who pay taxes!
@@aitchellarmoire9944yes it is. Lying is par for the course for MPs these days so she’ll fit right in.
This just proves even on £120+K some people still have no morals!
That’s what I was thinking 🤔
GREED.......
Imagine earning £120.000 plus pa......that would be fab
NO ! But means test them like they did to the pensioners , if they got a Salary over the minimum wage then they can’t claim anything ! 💕
Thus none of them, quite rightly, would qualify. Let's also have their bank accounts examined! I feel sure there would be some discrepancies revealed!!
Exactly 💯 they should do that
👍👍👍👍
Finally someone's asking to right questions. No mps should be allowed to taxpayers to keep them warm when OAP don't have heating. Absolutely disgusting way to treat out older generation.
cancel mp heating and food canteen discounts all from our money
so the poor can rot
Someone published the menu and prices they get, I was shocked it was like prices from 1960 , wish I could go into a restaurant/ cafe and pay their prices for a full dinner.
@@Bluediamond200 Exactly!
@@Bluediamond200 I have not seen this menu but there was something said about there food been HEAVIERLY discounted. for some really expensive foods.
It is a disgrace. there food should NOT have any discount when people can not even get two meals a day never mind 3
@ I have just done a screen shot of it but I doubt I can share here
Just remember Rachel Reeves think National State Pensiondrs are rich on £211 per week National Stste Pension so they don't need Winter Fuel Allowances or Cost of Living payments like the poor pensioners on only £200 a week who get pension credit and all the benefits.
Rules for them and rules for us mortals 😢
We are just menials to them, servants to the elites!😢😢
Does not matter what side the MP's are on, they are all in it for themselves.
I believe there some MP`s with integrity.
All in it together
of course they are.... career politicians most of them..... out for what they can get and sod the pensioners
Sound like a song by Crass.
They all cheered when the pensioners lost their fuel allowance. When I work away my employer does not pay for my heating... where's that BS from??!
UK Pensioners received their ENTITLED increase (that was by the last Tory Government) , NOT a significant pay increase . Energy Bills increased by at least 75%,. Labour LIED about freezing energy bills 2024. Pensioners means tested life-term savings is to a mere £16,000 and their tax threshold is only £12,570. That's Keir Starmer's 'Assisted Death' to UK Pensioners bill already being implemented.
Nor did my employer when I worked away, food yes heating not a chance.
Some companies like one I work for, pay for board and lodging as well as extra pay for food if you work away from your main place of work.
@@ascelot I have worked for places where I got a per diem, when away. Just a fixed amount per day and how I spent it was down to me.
@@sammic7492 what on earth are you raving on about? They wouldnt be paying for your heating unless you owned a second home you were staying in. If you dont own a second home then they would have been paying for your hotel WHICH MEANS THEY WERE PAYING YOUR HEATING AS ITS INCLUDED IN THE COST OF YOUR ROOM
This selfish man couldn’t care less about anybody as long as he’s sorted his face tells you that. 🇬🇧
Spot on
What a joke when he says all he asks to be treated the same as everyone else - everyone else doesn't have someone who buys their cloths and glasses for them, everyone else doesn't get free tickets to concerts, everyone is doesn't have a second home and gets other people to pay for it...everyone else isn't earning over £100,000 a year - this smug man along with the rest of this horrible Labour government are not living in the real world - meanwhile old people will die from the cold, hope he can sleep at night, in his nice warm house! which we are all paying for!! when will it down on people we are all being taken for mugs!!
He had no shame in the matter.
Disgusting hypocrisy on ninety thousand a year and get there bills paid whose going to pay for the poor pensioners freezing because they can't afford to put their heating on
Shame on you taking pensioners heating allowance while you get heating allowance for your second homes. With all the money you get surely you can pay for your own heating. And give the money back to pensioners
Why can't MPs use their own money to pay for things. They are not exactly poor
Every MP should have their Heating Allowance Stopped and they should pay it out of there Wages, like every one else. They have high wages even more if in the Cabinet. SO DO IT.
He immediately went to the party line and blamed the previous government....its getting a little tiresome and old now.
Really, after 4 month, the last government spent 14 years blaming Labour
@@martinhammett8121 don’t waste you’re breath, clearly the thing you’re replying to has no concept of time lol
It sure is Kevin! My Mom told us off if we tried to blame anyone even it really was their fault! This lot just whine.
Pure greed totally disgraceful- they should be ashamed- !!!!
This is the problem with MPs they treat the public, like 2nd class citizens, and the MPs take the rewards
And there gold plated pensions.
Corruption of the highest order.
Find out if you're local mp voted to take away heating allowance for pensioners and when the next election comes and vote wisely
They're prretty much all corrupt no matter what party
They can’t defend the undefendable.
It they’ll certainly give it a good go😡
Enjoy the next 4 years as you are out after that. This will not be forgotten .
By God will they pay. People will remember and vote accordingly.
They Get paid a very good Salary for being an MP: SO NO EXPENSES FOR ADDITIONAL 2nd PROPERTY, TRAVEL, HEATING, FOOD BILL, ""IN OTHER WORDS PAY YOUR WAY THROUGH YOUR OWN LARGE SALARY !!!
Not to mention the subsidised "works canteens" in the House of Commons.
@@philarthur2777 It’s a racket subsided by tax payers.
They shouldn't get any expenses paid .
Rachel Thieves got an accountant to do her tax form and charged the cost £1225 on her expenses, and she’s the chancellor what a joke ffs
That's why they want the job the money.
Surely the salaries they earn is more than enough to pay their own bills.
Never answer a direct question
It wasn't a very difficult decision for them to stop pensioners winter fuel allowances at all, it was a very easy decision for them, they sat in parliament and voted to take away the allowance then cheered at the result in favour to remove the winter fuel allowance from pensioners.
I didn't know that Members of Parliament receive a heating allowance ... I FIND THIS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING and the very thought of it makes me feel sick when the most vulnerable will be sat alone shivering cold over Christmas and beyond. Sickening !!!
They won't be just shivering , many will die but the Labour MPs thinks it's a price worth paying.
Every mp who voted for this abhorrent decision should think of those vulnerable pensioners shivering over this cold winter. They will be forever remembered unlike our pensioners who have given so much to this country, they will go down in infamy.
It's for their second homes. Maybe they need to park one of those migrant barges on the Thames and use it for accommodation of the MPs so they don't need to buy second homes at all.
The cheering of this spiteful decision will stay in my head forever. It was awful . What kind of humans cheer for this
Yes, £91,000 basic pay. Then allowances for extra responsibilities like being Chancellor or Prime Minister. Then allowances for London homes (the rest of us have to commute). Then expenses for meals, travel etc. Also pension.The house if Commons only sat for 101 days in the year 2023/24 but second home allowances paid 365 days.
Then PM gets 2 grace and favour (free) homes no10 Downing St. And Chequers country home. He rents out his family home for c£3000 per month. The Chancellor has no 11 Downing St. And Dorneywood country home and rents out her family home for c £3000 per month. Also get security and PM has an official car and driver. Also several of them get immediatecappointment when MP post ends, straight into House of Lords ..
So job for life!
Someone worked out Rachel Reeves has Nnual payments of £7,500 for clothes and £164 000 for salary.
Labour will never see power again when this term in government ends.
They'll be in power for at least 10 years, a 174 majority cannot be overturned in one Parliament, especially when the Tories and Reform will split the right wing vote
@@michaelbonham8524 hopefully not we might have to suffer until 2029 but I hope not
@@michaelbonham8524 Never say never. They will not be in power because all those Labour voters either know or have pensioners in their families.
@@michaelbonham8524 Voting intention polls say otherwise.
Labour are finished, and we won't see them anywhere near power again for a generation.
ON HIS WAGES PAY YOUR OWN YOU PONCE IAM FREEZING WITH EMPHYSEMA
I cannot believe this. Of course they should have it taken off them. The amount they earn. All pensioners should get it
Why should we pay the fuel bills for ministers who own a 4 million pound second home in London, come on there should be a limit .
Everyone is finally waking up.
@@GillianJones-q6q..we may be waking up but it won't make any difference whatsoever! 😢
Put all MPs on £15 per hour with no allowance
Put all MP on £12.21 per hour with no allowance.
@@martynsmith8120..no, only others can live on that but not them? ...funny that!
good idea are they not OUR SERVANTS we should tell them what to do,,,,, its all a sham
Typical money grabbing self serving MP, he bangs on about pensioners being much better off because of the triple lock (which is BS) and thinks it's ok for them to freeze whilst we pay thousands of pounds a year towards HIS heating. Frankly he earns enough to pay it himself and should I'm sick of this vile people.
I have a feeling the UK people are going to wake up and there will be an almighty TRUMP-like revolution.
They don't deserve it .they get paid enough.
Shame on all Liebour voters!
Perhaps Ed can persuade his wife to give up her heating allowance,erm .i don’t think so .
Again. Ed didn’t ask the question. Quite frankly, how could he have the bare faced cheek to ask Alex Norris, MP when his wife is claiming the same said heating allowance.
Rupert Lowe, Reform party, donates his entire salary to charity. Nigel Farage, Reform Party, doesn’t claim expenses.
He's part of the problem. No way he should be a presenter on here
Why should we pay heating etc for second properties, when I had to work away from home, I was put up in a reasonably priced hotel, and was given a fixed meal allowance. Why can’t MP’s be treated the same?
And when i worked away from home as a self - employed heating engineer, i had to pay my OWN hotel bills, my OWN food bills, my OWN fuel bills & buy my OWN tools ( & keep my home heated whilst i was away) & i earned NOWHERE NEAR £100k!
Disgusting joke.
we let them get away with too much there are supposed to be our SERVANTS
Take the houses off them, and get them to stay in "irregular migrant" hotels, sorted!
Can MP’s name one single occupation where workers earn a good wage AND get housing, travel, food and energy costs covered too? We are being taken for Mugs by Hypocrites and Scroungers!
Someone should start a petition about them losing their Heating allowance, I’m sure millions would sign it
If 60 million signed nothing will change, the minority elites have total rule over the majority who actually keep the country running!! 😢😢😢
That Minister did not answer the question he fobbed it off. Made excuses. Is he any different from anyother thief of the realm?
they are all pretty much the same ..... self serving disingenuous greedy ,,,, well I could go on...egocentric etc
Labour works from a legal scrip, that's all they got, is it legal that will do me attitude.
How can you justify paying people to heat there 2nd home,
yet the elderly who are vulnerable to the cold on state pensions get cut,
while fuel bills are still going up, and winter is here.
They should pay they own energy bills, , also G.MB. suzzana Reid and Co , wants to look at their selves they are also seriously overpaid. All greedy selfish people, help the needy not the very greedy
They cheered at the difficult decision ,to cheer means you are happy
just shows the kind of people they are
He was paid £91,346 + £30,000 extra in benefits by the public to deliver improvements to society and instead he does the opposite and takes it away. We should definitely fire him and others just like in any other work environment.
Is the Bibby Stockholm still available? if so how about parking it up by the Houses of Parliament and politicians stay there, no need to buy second homes in London!
This should not still be allowed. It is disgraceful.
I feel another petition coming out…….
MP's over winter can just spend most of their time in their second home paid for them and have the heating on at will knowing it all paid for them and they get it free. They can avoid going to their main home. This is paid for them all year around too not a one off payment. It scandalous and they defend it without shame, total greed !!
They should be paying it out of their enormous salaries, doesn't matter which home out of the two they are in.
As usual one rule for MP's another rule for the plebs, minions, peasants etc as they see us, it'll never change !!
Any mp earning £91000 per annum can afford to pay for their own heating , they should be means tested just like the pensioners who will freeze this winter if there are no allowances for them then there should be none for MPs that’s fair practice what you preach.😢
they don't need means testing, if they receive £91,000 per year then it's obvious that they can afford to pay their own way, even earbuds.
the rest of the population doesn't get all their bills paid whilst away from home. Ludicrous and self serving. No matter what party they are members of we now see the truth that MP's don't really care about constituents at all
Hear, hear 👏
Why is public money being made available to fix privately-owned buildings with dangerous cladding? Or is that because many MP's are private landlords?
The chances of getting any MP from the sitting government to admit to a mistake are precisely ... 0!
Mps should not be allowed to claim their enegy bills on second homes
Or their first home 😮
@@annealbrecht396 i think they pay for 1st homes themselves
He better save up because in 4 years time he will be the on the dole
Or sooner
@@patrickhatrick1216 Could we be that fortunate!
MP Heating allowances paid by the public Absolutely Scandalous and they are on £90,0000 + and the Pensioners have it taken away from them ?????????
Yes 100% I get £9,980 a year get no heating allowance, they earn around £80.000 so work that out
And the government should be the first to volunteer to try out ‘ assisted dying’
"We inherited these problems from the Tories, we had to make difficult decisions" it's just the same rhetoric they say over and over 😤😡
But nonetheless true
@@michaelbonham8524 Yeah, ok, but 6 months into Labour's government they can't keep using the same excuses
@@michaelbonham8524.. I bet you’ve forgotten the letter ?😉
I don’t care what bs they are spewing. No MP should get heating allowance when they have withdrawn it from our pensioners.
@@michaelbonham8524The problem is that excuse has a shelf life. And it’s noticeable that Labour never concede the impact of Covid on where things are (not an excuse but definitely a factor) and how the Conservatives are deliberately not using Covid as an obvious excuse.
If the main stream media take a bit of time to look at other European countries at the moment, they will see that the Conservative legacy whilst shocking in isolation is normalised in comparison to countries like France, Germany and Italy.
I suspect that Starmer has realised the Conservative Legacy excuse has run its course and the reset will move the agenda on.
This makes my blood boil. Donations come to mind
Remember the MP expenses scandal they will never change ,they are
Living in the Westminster bubble.
Yes anything or any body over £70,000 wages should not claim anything. WE CANT CCLAIM ANYTHING ON A WAGE OF 20K A YEAR £13,500 AFTER TAX...ITS DISGUSTING HOW the privileged think can just keep taking..
The answer .couldn't be clearer .yes yes they shouldn't be getting it on there wages .if we pensioners can't get it in our eighties why should they be entitled too it.theres nothing good too say about this labour party.
Disgrace MPs heating their own homes gratis too the taxpayers yet removing winter fuel allowance off hard pressed pensioners shame on them
Grifters every one of them who claims it.
@@alisonwhyte5929your tight there 👍
People who are just over the threshold have to fill out two hundred and fifty questions why. These mps should be paying their own winter fuel bills and not be depriving people who have paid taxes all their lives
Double standards in public life and in the workplace is breathtaking!
Greedy greedy MPs ,they are just in it for themselves
They are all just scroungers, prey on the vulnerable, should be jailed
My brother went to catering college 3yrs ended up as chef in savoy London.. he had prestige of working there on minium wage..got fed up when so many mps came into lunch and the starter cost more than his whole day's hard graft..
those difficult decisions are peoples lives , and its the same robotic answers they are a disgrace support the farmers \support the pensioners All MP's should of given up the winter payment
They should book into a travel lodge or premier inn if they are working in London,why do they need 2 residences.
Can’t believe they still take it the spongers!!
Totally disgusting the way they are treating the pensioners. I would not object to the WFA being means tested. BUT pay it this year and then have a year to work out who gets it going ahead and who doesn't..... And MP's MOST DEFINITELY ought not be receiving energy costs as a bonus on top of already high salaries.....
Cancel all the allowance and expenses for the MPs they do not deserve to claim these if the pensioners are not allowed to receive heating bills why do the MPs claim these we all pay our expenses and all bills why can’t they
How the heck do you tell 80-90 year olds to go sign up for the tripple lock BS' These people are a joke...
yes the heating allowance should be removed, if i had two homes i wouldn`t get an heating allowance for the 2nd home
Difficult decisions don't give you room to take all the wrong decisions. They would struggle to find any UK voter choosing to pay the MPs bills, they would choose to help the pensioners pittance any day
Every day, ten times over. They thought they could sneak this bill in with the bs of ‘we’ve inherited a terrible mess’.
Who has any respect for these MPS?
What's not good enough for the public ? It's not good enough for the government in regards to expenses , all the MPs are paid enough , why do they need to claim for their expenses? Why do they need more than pensioners?
They have a sense of entitlement of course.
Yes: they earn a perfectly good salary, and many have outside interests. Why pay them extra perks?
The answer is "yes". What's the prize?
Im your employer and i refuse you to be paid for heating 😅
Tory MP Nadhim Zahawi admited taxpayers paid £5,800 power bill ...for his stables. 🐎🐎🐎His 2nd home??
@@SimonSmith-yd6tt how disgusting is that
Liz Kendell labour mp lives in a 4 million pound house and claims taxpayers money to heat her home...red Tory blue Tory uniparty
Neigh! Surely not!
It’s wrong AND?
@@SimonSmith-yd6tt stop reporting comments karen
Why always blame the last government?
That’s all Labour have to say.
This year HOL members’ daily allowance increased from £328 to £361 PER DAY just for signing in. This was done on the quiet. Everyone should write to their MP and demand to know why this obscene amount is deemed affordable yet our elderly who live on a few pounds over £218.15 PER WEEK have had their YEARLY WFA of £200 (£300 if 80 and over) snatched away.
It would NEVER happen.... their snouts are fully in the trough and they have NO intention of ever going without anything they think they're entitled to........GREED.... pure and utter GREED...!!!!!!
Well said.
Yes obviously! Why should they get benefits the worthy are being denied
Well yes
Yes they get paid plenty
YES !! REMOVE Heating ALLOWANCE FROM MP's and DONT PAY THEM A SALARY IF THEY ARE NOT DOING THEIR WORK TO THE PUBLIC!!
Of course it should , the very idea that they are receiving the benefit is completely ridiculous. As it said it is a benefit .
Have a referendum on MPs getting fuel allowance and see what happens 😂😂😂
Not a fan of Susanne Reed , but fair play, she made him look aa absolute hypocrite
Fair play to you Susanna! Brilliantly put to Alex. I could see him squirming in his little seat. Over paid MPs. Underpaid OAPs. Its time this country respected and valued our unappreciated older members of society....... Happy Birthday to you Ms Reid, for the 10th Dec by the way. 💫💐
Mp shouldn't get funded for anything they want it they should pay for it
grangela rayner claimed for earbuds until it was made public, then it was an oversight. when the next election comes round every decision and statement made by this party should be made public every day until the day of voting, what goes round comes around.
Well done Susanna, it's nice to know that someone understands how hard it is for pensioners.
You would think it was common sense. Why don't they even think about pensioners and defend them?